Alicia Loc: NYC

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Thanks for bringing this up. I'm sure the Righties don't have the brains to question. They just find it easier to swallow the propaganda.

pafret Loc: Northeast

You are both mistaken, those millions voted for me and I would demand a recount but they wont do it for thirty seven dollars and 65 cents. Obama promised my people they could vote and the vote got flipped to Hillary and Trump. What kind of a Democracy is this?

Nuclearian Loc: I live in a Fascist, Liberal State

And Obama told Hispanics to vote, even if they weren't citizens. Its your choice to remain an idiot.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

And anything does happen there too...

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Thank You, Nick... while we may disagree on other things I completely agree with you here...

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

They have it wrong period.. didn't go down as they said and retallies in manual vote counts gave Trump more than Hillary although there was a slight change in total numbers (lower) foe each...


As for your votes that's simply unheard of...lolo it was only Trump's voters in 3 states that when they voted straight Republican ticket it came out a dem vote... did you complain, you sure should have!!!

cali

We knew this even before the election as revealed by Project Veritas. So yes it's true about the voter fraud and I've been saying it all along.

pafret Loc: Northeast

I'm registering my protest here Linda, this is my favorite forum for unfounded complaining. There is so much nonsense here a little more will never be noticed!

straightUp Loc: California

Trump won the election... So why is it soooo important for him and his supporters to lie about illegal votes? I noticed you offer no link... You just said "a new study"... OK, I got one ... "New Study" by Dr. E. P. Morris shows that all Republicans have smaller brains sizes than Democrats... There ya go... How's that?

Better yet... let me show you what a link looks like.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/the-gops-stealth-war-against-voters-w435890

This link is to a Rolling Stone article by investigative reporter Greg Palst (Author of "Best Democracy Money Can Buy"). He wrote this article (and I read it) before the election even happened. The article discusses a system called the Interstate Voter Registration Crosscheck Program, which was started by Kris Kobach, Republican representative from Kansas, who was also responsible for a racial profiling system following 9/11 that has since been deemed inappropriate. Kobach has been working on this new system for years now and leading up to the 2016 election it's been promoted by a powerful Republican operative AND by Trump. The "official" concept is to find voters who have registered in more than one state, add those voters to a list and disqualify their votes. So it's an "anti-fraud" system. Except... the voters get no warning or notification... They aren't even told that their vote is discounted so the voter never even knows. Here's the genius part... The list itself is kept secret. How's that for a transparent system?

As it turns out, part of the list was leaked, containing the names of 1 million voters... that's just the part that was leaked. You might wonder if this is normal. Do millions of voters really cast ballots in more than one state? Why has this never been discovered before..? Did these voters suddenly realize in 2016 that they can drive a car across state lines? I've been watching the Republicans pulling these stunts for years. The classic move in voter suppression is redistricting... In Texas, this seems like a weekly event... every time time more Hispanics move in to the state the Republicans rearrange their congressional districts to minimize the effect of their votes.

I actually remember the investigation that Bush launched that the article describes. Bush was miffed about the Florida recount and launched the investigation into possible voter fraud (which had to have been rampant for such a wide chasm to appear between the actual count and what Bush thought should have been the count.) In any case after five years and plenty of tax money they came up with nothing.

So when I heard about the Crosscheck system I was pretty much already expecting something like that. Republicans rely too much on old white people with racists hangups and that demographic is shrinking, so they continue to rely more and more on voter suppression techniques, disguised as voter fraud prevention.

As it turns out, several states pulled out of the system, citing problems with the methodology, as Oregon's secretary of state recently explained: "We left Crosscheck because the data we received was unreliable." Still, 28 states stuck with the system. Among them, Virginia which produced a list (part of what was leaked) showing 342,556 names which they apparently cancelled from the voter rolls right before Election Day. Lists from Georgia and Washington state were also leaked. It turns out that a quarter of the list that was leaked didn't even match middle names or suffixes like "Sr." or "Jr." On the Georgia list alone there was 357 people with the name "James Brown" and there were no SS numbers at all!

I'm sure you won't read the article because it's not going to tell you what you want to hear. But just so you know... there are a lot of us that aren't making out with the Republican sphincter and we are at liberty to review the investigations commissioned by either side and when you do that it becomes really obvious that Republicans have been playing dirty pool for a long time.

I haven't made a big deal out of this until now, because it's not worth arguing with a bunch of right-wing maggots about voter suppression when they will only deny it. Besides, the way I see it, Trump won the election whether it was fair or not. Sometimes cheaters win. You just have to move on and maybe work toward making elections more fair in the future.

Still, judging by Trump's record breaking low approval ratings and the record breaking protests against him, along with many other indications, I would say he lost the popular vote by a margin far greater than the 3 million actual votes that were counted. I would guess there were another 2 million at least that were qualified to vote but were not even counted because of bullshit systems like Crosscheck.

I'm sure the "study" you reference in you original post comes from these bullshit lists... It would be just like the Republicans to quietly disqualify the voters based on erroneous data and then hold up the list and state that these people voted illegally... and of course lie and say their votes were counted.

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

[quote=straightUp]Trump won the election... So why is it soooo important for him and his supporters to lie about illegal votes? I noticed you offer no link... You just said "a new study"... OK, I got one ... "New Study" by Dr. E. P. Morris shows that all Republicans have smaller brains sizes than Democrats... There ya go... How's that

Finding what you think and say hilarious at best and I thrive on trading insults.you are a run of the mill flamer bayoneting your brain with every sentence . Please stop before you provide ample evidence that you are the most intelligent person you know.

Kickaha Loc: Nebraska

Why not try to figure out a way of cross checking the voter rolls? Anyone who hasn't voted for X number of years would have their registration flagged and would be sent a notice that they need to re-register. The same could be done by cross checking death certificates and drivers license lists. It might not be perfect but it will help clean up the voter registration rolls. Then we need to require voter registration be done 2 weeks prior to an election and photo ID is needed to vote.

buffalo Loc: Texas

The article came from the Horn News Editorial Team (which I credited at the bottom of the post, which I doubt your attention span allowed you to read that far down) and sited several different studies and reports of voter fraud. The DNC was exposed ion those LEAKED emails (not hacked by Russia) the fraud that they had committed against Sanders, but you fricking bird-brained, butt-hurt moonbats ignore that or anything else that doesn't fit your ideological narrative. Obammy even told illegals to vote.

Maybe Trump just wants to make sure that all votes, whether dem or repub, are legal votes. You moonbats just don't want to be exposed so that is why you deflected the LEAKED emails as being haclked by Russia. NO evidence has ever been offered to prove that goofy assertion.

zelda

There is no doubt voter fraud is rampant in this country not just illegals
voting but also just plain cheating like what I witnessed in Nevada in 2012
machines being set to default back like the two I witnessed a machine default
to Obama when that was not who was voted for and this was in 2 different
locations! Computers can be set to do anything the programmer wants, to think
otherwise is naive! I believe they just did random machines so hopefully would
not be noticed that's just a guess all I know is it happened!

moldyoldy

If it is a touch screen type machine then it is possible to touch in the wrong spot. But, most people verify their picks.

LG Loc: TENNESSEE

The reason LIBERAL DEMOCRATS have bigger brains than REPUBLICANS, is because they're FULL OF SHIT. An OXFORD study shows REPUBLICANS have higher IQ's than LIBERAL DEMOCRATS. ROLLING STONE is a great source for LIBERAL DEMOCRATS, they're known to report lies, just like the article published about the rape on the campus of the University of Virginia, that was totally made up and a flat out lie.


http://www.truthrevolt.org/videos/andrew-klavan-republicans-are-smarter-democrats-and-more-liberal-too