Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

"[S]ingle payer". Let's define that:

"Single-payer health care is a system in which governments, rather than private insurers, pay for all health care costs. Single-payer systems may contract for health care services from private organizations, as is in Canada, or they may own and employ health care resources and personnel, as in the United Kingdom."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-payer_health_care

"Only Canada and Taiwan have true single-payer systems." They are all, however, types of socialized medical systems; and they are all, without exception, outrageously expensive to manage. Just ask any Canadian how he feels about paying for it:

http://oldfraser.lexi.net/media/media_releases/2001/20010613.html

It is a perennial truth that anything government touches automatically becomes more expensive. Why? Because government bureaucrats do not have to worry about where the money came from or where it is best applied. Need more money? Raise the tax rate. It really is that simple. Ronald Reagan put it quite well:

"Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it". Where do you suppose 'single payer healthcare' fits on that statement?

Of course, he did address healthcare as well...

Randy131 Loc: Florida

I don't know what you consider a good medical system, probably one that you can get others to pay for, but the medical system in the USA is far superior to 'ALL' the government provided medical systems all around the world.

I grew up in a single parent family, my father having died before I turned 6 years old, and I was the oldest of five siblings, and my mother raised us all on the salary and tips of a restaurant waitress, yet we always had the best medical attention that most people in the world could get.

That was long before there was anything called healthcare insurance. It's amazing that so many of the American people have survived without what you think we can't live without.

Instead of trying to turn this great nation into a socialist third world country, why don't you just move to a country that will pay for your medical services, because the huge majority of Americans don't want to pay for your medical services, just their own, and anyone else they may feel obligated to pay for.

Quit robbing the American people of their livelihoods, just because you want them to pay for something you want, or make them pay for something they don't need or want, just so people like you, who do want it, think they can purchase it cheaper by forcing everyone else to purchase it. Obamacare has proven that to be a false theory.

Keep you hands out of other people's pockets. People like you will be the demise of this country yet, forcing your wants on everyone else.

Barry Jackson Loc: Montreal, Canada

I'm a Canadian citizen. We've had government-monopoly single-payer health care since 1968. Today the average wait time in a Canadian hospital emergency room is 17 hours. This is expected to rise soon to 20 hours. The absurdly long wait time is due to rationing, the inevitable result of providing something for "nothing." Health care consumes 50% of every province's budget, which is obviously unsustainable. The American left and the fawning liberal media want the United States to adopt the Canadian "model." Back in 1968 a conservative senator named Wallace McCutcheon observed, "If you think health care is expensive now, wait 'til it's free." Be careful what you wish for.

Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ

Great reply. I also know of people that did live in Canada but moved to the states and they also said the same thing as you.

Randy131 Loc: Florida

Exactly! I have also read that your wait period for operations average between 6 and 9 months, where as in the UK the average is 9 months. I live in Florida, and we meet many Canadians that need a medical operation right away, and come here to get it.

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

'Was'. Was far superior. Then someone came along and made it 'Affordable'. Now it's a complete disaster.

kenjay Loc: Arkansas

kenjay Loc: Arkansas

Are you brain dead never mind you just proved you are.

kenjay Loc: Arkansas

Then make more money they did and actually with Obozo Care we hit rock bottom. Move to Cuba they have single coverage.

Barry Jackson Loc: Montreal, Canada

If DemonRats were not cowardly hypocrites, they would move to Cuba or Venezuela or North Korea for all their health care needs. Instead, the intolerant fascist bullies prefer to remain here coercing everybody into their collectivist dystopia.

JimMe

And I have the perfect Replacement for ACA-ObamaCare... Congress can simply provide the same Healthcare Insurance they have to every USA Citizen... I mean, that's a Plan already in place... They merely have to extend the coverage...

Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

You might want to read this. If it sounds too good to be true. Will you know the rest.
http://www.heritage.org/research/lecture/buyer-beware-the-failure-of-single-payer-health-care

straightUp Loc: California

Interesting idea. Sort of like giving them enough rope to hang themselves. I know people who are going to suffer when/if the ACA is repealed so it's hard to accept this. I'm also familiar enough with the Culture of Ignorance to know that many America idiots are incapable of learning from mistakes. Even if millions of people wind up dying from a lack of healthcare, the few that prefer it that way will always have a scapegoat to offer these incapable people. They will say it's the fault of the Marxists, or the Muslims or, whatever... it really doesn't matter, the point is to maintain ignorance. So you're idea fails to present any advantage as far as persuasion goes, but I do agree with you on a technical standpoint... Repealing the ACA without replacement would be the most effective way to understand the impact.

As far as sweeping the Republicans from office... I refer to my second point... Republican sponsored policies are responsible for almost every problem Republican voters bitch about and yet politicians always find a way (usually by lying) to blame it on Democrats. It's a game played by politicians and they have always been able to count on vast numbers of emotional and illiterate voters to keep it going.

Trump will certainly be a laughing stock for liberal-minded comedians on late night television and more importantly, his election is already spurring massive counter-movements on the ground, but Republican strategy has long relegated the office of the president to a fixture in a house of smoke and mirrors, while actual power emanates from those hidden in the shadows. Nixon was probably the last Republican president to act as a true leader. Reagan was nominated because of his popularity but he didn't lead as much as he followed. In a sense he became a mere spokesman for the agenda that others behind him controlled. GW Bush sticks out because unlike Reagan, he didn't even have the capacity to *act* like a leader. Of course, in his defense, the ulterior motives of the Republican agenda did become much harder to conceal. When you look at the nominations since then, such as Sarah Palin for vice president you can see how the qualifications have more to do with public relations than the capacity to lead. The point I'm making here is that Trump, whether or not he's what the GOP really wanted, is about to be controlled by his party. His own appointees are already promising the party to keep him on a leash so the ability for Trump to "drain the swamp" is doubtful at most.

Repealing the ACA has always been a Republican objective and they have been prompting the Culture of Ignorance into opposition since before it even became a law. Trump's opposition to the ACA is part of his banking on this Culture of Ignorance to get elected. The party will use that to their advantage of course, but if the ACA is indeed repealed, it will be the result of Republican manipulation that Trump himself will have little to do with. People will suffer of course, but once again the Culture of Ignorance will find themselves blaming anything but the repeal for the pains they endure and they will probably vote for more Republican abuse in 2018.

I expect the Republicans will loose ground in 2018 and you're right, repealing the ACA will almost guarantee that, but that's because it will motivate the apathetic half of the moderate citizens that didn't vote in 2016. The Republicans won't be wiped out... ignorance might even give them more votes than they got in 2016, but that 54% that didn't vote in 2016? Yeah, THEY will be the ones to make the change.

archie bunker Loc: Texas

A smug, snarky, smarmy, condescending prick aren't ya? Long winded too. Seems like you know it all so you think. You are just a prick. You, and Peter are a match made in heaven.