DJRich Loc: Western Pa

With the demands that trumprick just put on his party for a vote tomorrow, it is very likely that the ACA will remain, and the idiot republicans and especially the idiot trump, will be wiping all those rotten eggs off of their stupid faces.



http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/trump-freedom-caucus-health-care-236418

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

Ryan's plan is lousy and if it made it.out of the house, it wouldn't clear the senate. Paul's has a better chance.

Don't crow too loudly. It isn't a matter of "if" the ACA goes, it's merely a matter of when.

The ACA is simply too wasteful therefore costly and needs a transfusion. Remember, you can't get blood from a turnip and the ACA is a rotting turnip.

DJRich Loc: Western Pa

And when is paul's plan coming up for a vote in the house?

It won't since ryan does not support it, it will never reach the floor, so it will never reach the senate, duh!!!!!!!

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Dumb fuk. This is exactly how a bill this complicated should be handled. I am so glad it wasn't ready yet. You want it to fail because you're an asshole but the ACA is imploding. Even dumbass liberals admit this. Yet you would let those people be stuck with no insurer because you are a partisan idiot.

DJRich Loc: Western Pa

Asshole, this bill will fail because it is a POS bill, and trump and ryan are miserable POS, and you are a deplorable POS, who is too stupid to function in society.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

And you're a whiney little bitch loser just like your party. You haven't read the Bill and I guarantee have no clues about the procedures such as reconciliation. Now go play in traffic if you can figure out how troll.

teabag09

Agree. Get the Govt. out completely. Let the consumers decide. Capitalism will bring down prices and bring productivity up. Doctors and the public will benefit. Mike

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

I don't know. We'll have to see what happens if Ryan's bill goes down.

Where did.you obtain your crystal ball? I'd like to buy one.

CounterRevolutionary

If we want to cut the costs of these Cadillac health plans, this issue of including "essential benefits" must be scrapped.
Open up Interstate Commerce so we might shop across all state lines to access a multitude of "essential" health plans that are tailored to our individual needs. Free markets work!

Hire an insurance agent.
If you are a man, buy a policy for your prostate.
If you are a young woman, buy a policy for prenatal care and pregnancy.
If you are a senior citizen, use Medicare.
If you have a family with children, buy a group plan.

The cost is not in the medicine, but wasted time and money by hiring a myriad of paper shuffling bureaucrats to wade through reams of red tape over the cost of an aspirin in these monstrous all-inclusive policies.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Hey Doc. This bill needs to go down. In my opinion. The establishment Republicans are such posers. They pass a repeal bill about a zillion times while Obozo was in office knowing when it gets to his desk he will veto it. So they run against the Democrats saying hey, we repealed the bill but we can't get the president to sign it. Give us majorities in the House and Senate plus the White House and we'll get er done. Well Ryan whom I consider a POS screwed the pooch on this. If the Republicans had the slimy savvy the Democrat's do they would have put everything in this Bill. Subsidies, pre-existing conditions, no mandates, no penalties, tort reform, selling of insurance across state lines and the kitchen sink. Then send the Bill to the Senate and let the Democrats filibuster. Obamacare implodes and the Democrats take the blame. I'm no politician but I could have figured this out.

CounterRevolutionary

No, Florio, the Democrats will take the House and Senate in 2018, one year away, if this damnable Obamacare is not repealed and replaced right now.

We have to do it now!

PeterS

This is how a bill like this is suppose to be handled? Are you kidding? This bill was assembled in two months--two!!! This isn't even close to how a bill like this should be handled but Trump is tying to keep promises instead of passing good legislation. As for being stuck with no insurer. The worst that can happen is that those who once had no insurance will once again have no insurance. That's what you guys are offering so why do you act like it's a bad thing?

PeterS

So why didn't capitalism bring down prices in the first place? How soon we forget that prior to Obamacare prices were out of control and the only thing a free market did was make insurers rich.

CounterRevolutionary

No, Doc, we cannot wait. Push it through the House as best we can or the remaining insurance companies will crash. Let the Senate pick over the bill like a bunch of buzzards, and send it back to the House for compromises. Send it to Trump before the end of this month.

CounterRevolutionary

PeterS, oh, stop right there. We have not had "capitalism" and free market competition since 1945 when health insurance was put under state and federal regulation of the Interstate Commerce Clause, re-classed as a "for profit industry" by the McCarran-Fergusson Act.

You know this. The Public Option will be the death of the human race as we know it.

Let's talk about California. The State legislature's Senator, Dave Jones, had oversight of the 1.5 million government employees health care benefits
Jones arranged for the government workers, with the advice of the SEIU labor union, to purchase the broadest policies, highest priced Cadillac health insurance plan in the nation, adding some10 billion dollars to the state debt that was already some $40 billion dollars in debt. 3000 people left the state each day, unable to find work. 2,000 industries left the state each year. The remaining taxpayers are being milked and bilked.

The liberal dingbats just loved their Cadillac health insurance benefits so next, they elected Senator Dave Jones to be the State Insurance Commissioner, who sucked up big fat campaign contributions from the labor unions and health insurance industry. See how that works?

Today, California is a playground for Hollywood's rich and famous, while its streets are lined with homeless beggars digging through the garbage. Simply stupendous. They have no food, but they can sign up for Medical (California's version of Medicaid) and spend their time roaming about the parks stoned on dope dressed in rags. Drug addicts make good slaves. This is the price of "free healthcare" and government regulation. This is the cost of socialism!

You cannot efficiently manage a nation of 320 million people on the Public Option or Universal Care. The bungling bureaucrats will bankrupt the nation out of sheer incompetence and corruption. "Welfare for the masses is the alibi of tyrants" quote Albert Camus.