Trump Is His Own Worst Enemy
Mar 22, 2017 08:21:32 #
slatten49
Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
The FBI, NSA, Germany, Britain, Australia: Is there anybody America's dissembler-in-chief can't alienate?
By Max Boot
March 20, 2017
Those worried about the trajectory of the Trump White House — and these days, who isn’t? — could take some comfort from the news last week that two well-respected professionals were joining the National Security Council. Former George W. Bush aide Dina Powell, a fluent Arabic speaker and Goldman Sachs alumna, will become deputy national security advisor, and Nadia Schadlow, an expert on military affairs, will leave the Smith Richardson Foundation to take charge of strategic planning. They are welcome additions to the Axis of Adults that must compete for influence in this administration with the Cabal of Crazies, whose ranks include Stephen Bannon, Stephen Miller, Peter Navarro, and Sebastian Gorka.
The problem is that the cabal counts among its members someone whose influence trumps, so to speak, that of National Security Advisor H.R. McMaster, Secretary of Defense James Mattis, Secretary of Homeland Security John Kelly, or any other appointee. We refer, of course, to the conspirator-in-chief himself. The series of vintage performances delivered by President Donald Trump last week — and the vehement response they elicited from national security officials testifying Monday before the House Intelligence Committee — reminds us of why the Axis of Adults has a nearly impossible job in keeping this administration from veering into cloud cuckoo-land.
On March 15, Trump journeyed to Nashville, Tennessee, for a campaign-style rally where supporters repeated the old cry of “Lock her up” in reference to Hillary Clinton — a demand that was merely deranged when made during the campaign but that now seems positively sinister when it is associated with the man charged with enforcing the nation’s laws. At the rally, Trump reacted to the “terrible” court rulings blocking his revised executive order on immigration. “The order blocked was a watered-down version of the first order …,” he thundered. “Let me tell you something. I think we ought to go back to the first one and go all the way.”
It is precisely such presidential pronouncements that provide ammunition to litigants who claim that the executive order is an unconstitutional attempt to ban Muslims. Administration lawyers insist otherwise in court, but their arguments are undermined by their boss, who simply cannot hide his true intent.
Two days later, Trump hosted German Chancellor Angela Merkel at the White House for what looked to be the first date from hell. With cameras rolling, Merkel asked Trump if he wanted to shake hands; he pointedly ignored her. Trump then used their joint news conference to demand not only that Germany and other NATO partners increase their defense spending — a standard trope of past administrations — but that they pay back the United States “vast sums of money from past years” that “they owe” us for defending them from Russian aggression. To make sure that no one missed the message, he followed up with tweets reiterating: “Germany owes…vast sums of money to NATO & the United States must be paid more for the powerful, and very expensive, defense it provides to Germany!”
While he’s at it, why not ask France to pay back the cost of D-Day? Or is he afraid that France will retaliate by demanding repayment for its contribution to America’s War of Independence? That would certainly take Trump’s view of international relations as a protection racket to its logical, if absurd, conclusion.
Trump also could not hide his anti-German animus when it came to trade, saying: “Right now, I would say that the negotiators for Germany have done a far better job than the negotiators for the United States. But hopefully we can even it out.” Trump seems oblivious to the fact that over 750,000 Americans are employed by German-owned companies such as Daimler, T-Mobile, Siemens, Adidas, and even Trader Joe’s. He makes it sound as if Germany is committing some heinous offense by selling us lots of stuff we want to buy. Naturally, he had all too little to say about the continuing importance of the German-American alliance that has underpinned prosperity and security on both sides of the Atlantic since 1945.
An anonymous German Foreign Ministry official was subsequently quoted as saying that Trump “uses rudeness to compensate for his weakness, like Putin.” An astute observation, that. And when it came to alienating allies, Trump was just getting started.
In desperately trying to support Trump’s discredited allegation that President Barack Obama had been spying on him, which has been denied not only by the U.S. intelligence community and the Justice Department but by the bipartisan leadership of the House and Senate intelligence committees, White House spokesman Sean Spicer cited a statement by a Fox News commentator. Former Judge Andrew Napolitano asserted that, rather than spying on Trump directly, Obama had outsourced the dirty work to Britain’s communications agency, the Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ). His source? A discredited former CIA officer who has become notorious for peddling false stories that former first lady Michelle Obama gave a speech “railing against whitey” and that former Secretary of State John Kerry “raped some poor Vietnamese women” while in the Navy.
The allegation of British wiretapping was immediately denounced by the normally secretive GCHQ and National Security Agency (NSA), with the British said to be “livid” and “angry” over this “utterly ridiculous” charge. Even Fox News, in the person of anchor Shepard Smith, could not “confirm” this claim. Definitive refutation was provided Monday by FBI Director James Comey, who testified that while there is credible evidence worth investigating of collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians, there is no evidence of any wiretapping of Trump. The FBI director all but called the sitting president a liar, creating yet another undesirable first for the Trump administration. Perhaps Trump will now be reduced to claiming that Obama dressed like a cat burglar and personally broke into Trump Tower to plant listening devices without Comey’s knowledge.
Despite the absence of factual support for his position, Trump would not back down. Asked about the allegations by a German reporter on Friday, he said with his typical insouciance: “We said nothing. All we did was quote a certain very talented legal mind who was the one responsible for saying that on television. I didn’t make an opinion on it.”
Trump even tried to make light of the affair, joking that he and Merkel have “something in common, perhaps,” because both had allegedly been wiretapped by Obama. This was a reference to revelations from Edward Snowden — not normally a source cited with approbation by American officials — that the chancellor’s cell phone number was on a list monitored by the NSA. Merkel grimaced and did a double take but wisely said nothing about Trump’s insulting insinuations that stir up uncomfortable memories in Germany of state surveillance and make it harder for Merkel to maintain a close alliance with the United States.
Trump’s allegations against the United Kingdom also wiped out any goodwill remaining from January’s summit between the president and Prime Minister Theresa May (they actually held hands) and continued Trump’s streak of offending American allies. Among those who have felt Trump’s white-hot wrath have been the president of Mexico, who refuses to pay for any border wall, and the prime minister of Australia, who wants the United States to honor an agreement to take in 1,250 refugees detained by Australia. Oh, and Trump did a drive-by shooting on Sweden to justify his complaint that Muslim immigrants are a bane to society.
It is all the more striking, by comparison, that Trump never says anything remotely critical regarding Russian President Vladimir Putin, who is engaged in flouting international norms and threatening his neighbors. Indeed, Trump’s utterly unnecessary spats with key allies play right into Putin’s hands, because the Russian despot is intent on dividing the Western alliance. Comey noted Monday that Putin wants to break up the European Union, and Trump seems eager to help. Little wonder that allies’ faith in America is plummeting as rapidly as the White House’s credibility. The number of Germans who believe the United States is a trustworthy ally has fallen from 59 percent in November to just 22 percent in February and, based on the present trajectory, may soon go into negative numbers.
The pattern is clear.
Trump is constitutionally incapable of admitting wrongdoing or apologizing for giving offense. His invariable pattern is to double down and dig in, compounding the original damage. He doesn’t care whom he offends. All that matters to the president and his courtiers is to soothe his fragile ego and maintain his illusory air of infallibility. That’s not easy to do given how little he knows and how many “alternative facts” are lodged in his noggin. You would think the commander in chief would rely on the information gathered at great trouble and expense by the U.S. intelligence community, but no. Instead, he relies on Fox News, Infowars, and Breitbart, and he doesn’t bother with any fact-checking before repeating their crackpot claims. Thus, he almost always blunders when speaking (or tweeting) without a script; it is telling that one of the few highlights of his first two months in office was his ability to read a teleprompter in front of a joint session of Congress.
Here, in sum, is the problem confronting Trump optimists. He can hire well-qualified aides and even defer to them in some areas. He can refrain from adopting some of his crazy campaign brainstorms. (No, he hasn’t imposed 45 percent tariffs on China or ordered the murder of terrorists’ relatives.) But ultimately he can’t stop being himself. And who Trump is — boastful, vain, stubborn, crude, boorish, ignorant, conspiratorial, mean-spirited — is deeply problematic for anyone, whether on his staff or outside of it, hoping that his administration will become more normal.
By Max Boot
March 20, 2017
Those worried about the trajectory of the Trump White House — and these days, who isn’t? — could take some comfort from the news last week that two well-respected professionals were joining the National Security Council. Former George W. Bush aide Dina Powell, a fluent Arabic speaker and Goldman Sachs alumna, will become deputy national security advisor, and Nadia Schadlow, an expert on military affairs, will leave the Smith Richardson Foundation to take charge of strategic planning. They are welcome additions to the Axis of Adults that must compete for influence in this administration with the Cabal of Crazies, whose ranks include Stephen Bannon, Stephen Miller, Peter Navarro, and Sebastian Gorka.
The problem is that the cabal counts among its members someone whose influence trumps, so to speak, that of National Security Advisor H.R. McMaster, Secretary of Defense James Mattis, Secretary of Homeland Security John Kelly, or any other appointee. We refer, of course, to the conspirator-in-chief himself. The series of vintage performances delivered by President Donald Trump last week — and the vehement response they elicited from national security officials testifying Monday before the House Intelligence Committee — reminds us of why the Axis of Adults has a nearly impossible job in keeping this administration from veering into cloud cuckoo-land.
On March 15, Trump journeyed to Nashville, Tennessee, for a campaign-style rally where supporters repeated the old cry of “Lock her up” in reference to Hillary Clinton — a demand that was merely deranged when made during the campaign but that now seems positively sinister when it is associated with the man charged with enforcing the nation’s laws. At the rally, Trump reacted to the “terrible” court rulings blocking his revised executive order on immigration. “The order blocked was a watered-down version of the first order …,” he thundered. “Let me tell you something. I think we ought to go back to the first one and go all the way.”
It is precisely such presidential pronouncements that provide ammunition to litigants who claim that the executive order is an unconstitutional attempt to ban Muslims. Administration lawyers insist otherwise in court, but their arguments are undermined by their boss, who simply cannot hide his true intent.
Two days later, Trump hosted German Chancellor Angela Merkel at the White House for what looked to be the first date from hell. With cameras rolling, Merkel asked Trump if he wanted to shake hands; he pointedly ignored her. Trump then used their joint news conference to demand not only that Germany and other NATO partners increase their defense spending — a standard trope of past administrations — but that they pay back the United States “vast sums of money from past years” that “they owe” us for defending them from Russian aggression. To make sure that no one missed the message, he followed up with tweets reiterating: “Germany owes…vast sums of money to NATO & the United States must be paid more for the powerful, and very expensive, defense it provides to Germany!”
While he’s at it, why not ask France to pay back the cost of D-Day? Or is he afraid that France will retaliate by demanding repayment for its contribution to America’s War of Independence? That would certainly take Trump’s view of international relations as a protection racket to its logical, if absurd, conclusion.
Trump also could not hide his anti-German animus when it came to trade, saying: “Right now, I would say that the negotiators for Germany have done a far better job than the negotiators for the United States. But hopefully we can even it out.” Trump seems oblivious to the fact that over 750,000 Americans are employed by German-owned companies such as Daimler, T-Mobile, Siemens, Adidas, and even Trader Joe’s. He makes it sound as if Germany is committing some heinous offense by selling us lots of stuff we want to buy. Naturally, he had all too little to say about the continuing importance of the German-American alliance that has underpinned prosperity and security on both sides of the Atlantic since 1945.
An anonymous German Foreign Ministry official was subsequently quoted as saying that Trump “uses rudeness to compensate for his weakness, like Putin.” An astute observation, that. And when it came to alienating allies, Trump was just getting started.
In desperately trying to support Trump’s discredited allegation that President Barack Obama had been spying on him, which has been denied not only by the U.S. intelligence community and the Justice Department but by the bipartisan leadership of the House and Senate intelligence committees, White House spokesman Sean Spicer cited a statement by a Fox News commentator. Former Judge Andrew Napolitano asserted that, rather than spying on Trump directly, Obama had outsourced the dirty work to Britain’s communications agency, the Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ). His source? A discredited former CIA officer who has become notorious for peddling false stories that former first lady Michelle Obama gave a speech “railing against whitey” and that former Secretary of State John Kerry “raped some poor Vietnamese women” while in the Navy.
The allegation of British wiretapping was immediately denounced by the normally secretive GCHQ and National Security Agency (NSA), with the British said to be “livid” and “angry” over this “utterly ridiculous” charge. Even Fox News, in the person of anchor Shepard Smith, could not “confirm” this claim. Definitive refutation was provided Monday by FBI Director James Comey, who testified that while there is credible evidence worth investigating of collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians, there is no evidence of any wiretapping of Trump. The FBI director all but called the sitting president a liar, creating yet another undesirable first for the Trump administration. Perhaps Trump will now be reduced to claiming that Obama dressed like a cat burglar and personally broke into Trump Tower to plant listening devices without Comey’s knowledge.
Despite the absence of factual support for his position, Trump would not back down. Asked about the allegations by a German reporter on Friday, he said with his typical insouciance: “We said nothing. All we did was quote a certain very talented legal mind who was the one responsible for saying that on television. I didn’t make an opinion on it.”
Trump even tried to make light of the affair, joking that he and Merkel have “something in common, perhaps,” because both had allegedly been wiretapped by Obama. This was a reference to revelations from Edward Snowden — not normally a source cited with approbation by American officials — that the chancellor’s cell phone number was on a list monitored by the NSA. Merkel grimaced and did a double take but wisely said nothing about Trump’s insulting insinuations that stir up uncomfortable memories in Germany of state surveillance and make it harder for Merkel to maintain a close alliance with the United States.
Trump’s allegations against the United Kingdom also wiped out any goodwill remaining from January’s summit between the president and Prime Minister Theresa May (they actually held hands) and continued Trump’s streak of offending American allies. Among those who have felt Trump’s white-hot wrath have been the president of Mexico, who refuses to pay for any border wall, and the prime minister of Australia, who wants the United States to honor an agreement to take in 1,250 refugees detained by Australia. Oh, and Trump did a drive-by shooting on Sweden to justify his complaint that Muslim immigrants are a bane to society.
It is all the more striking, by comparison, that Trump never says anything remotely critical regarding Russian President Vladimir Putin, who is engaged in flouting international norms and threatening his neighbors. Indeed, Trump’s utterly unnecessary spats with key allies play right into Putin’s hands, because the Russian despot is intent on dividing the Western alliance. Comey noted Monday that Putin wants to break up the European Union, and Trump seems eager to help. Little wonder that allies’ faith in America is plummeting as rapidly as the White House’s credibility. The number of Germans who believe the United States is a trustworthy ally has fallen from 59 percent in November to just 22 percent in February and, based on the present trajectory, may soon go into negative numbers.
The pattern is clear.
Trump is constitutionally incapable of admitting wrongdoing or apologizing for giving offense. His invariable pattern is to double down and dig in, compounding the original damage. He doesn’t care whom he offends. All that matters to the president and his courtiers is to soothe his fragile ego and maintain his illusory air of infallibility. That’s not easy to do given how little he knows and how many “alternative facts” are lodged in his noggin. You would think the commander in chief would rely on the information gathered at great trouble and expense by the U.S. intelligence community, but no. Instead, he relies on Fox News, Infowars, and Breitbart, and he doesn’t bother with any fact-checking before repeating their crackpot claims. Thus, he almost always blunders when speaking (or tweeting) without a script; it is telling that one of the few highlights of his first two months in office was his ability to read a teleprompter in front of a joint session of Congress.
Here, in sum, is the problem confronting Trump optimists. He can hire well-qualified aides and even defer to them in some areas. He can refrain from adopting some of his crazy campaign brainstorms. (No, he hasn’t imposed 45 percent tariffs on China or ordered the murder of terrorists’ relatives.) But ultimately he can’t stop being himself. And who Trump is — boastful, vain, stubborn, crude, boorish, ignorant, conspiratorial, mean-spirited — is deeply problematic for anyone, whether on his staff or outside of it, hoping that his administration will become more normal.
Mar 22, 2017 09:19:04 #
slatten49 wrote:
The FBI, NSA, Germany, Britain, Australia: Is ther... (show quote)
Hmmmmmmm....Max Boot was an advisor for the McCain and Romney campaigns.....and, if I remember correctly, THEY LOST! Trump is not a polished politician, or a politician period, so why does everyone think he will be perfect? especially only 60 days into his presidency. Will anyone please point out a 'perfect' president that we have had in my lifetime....pleeeaaassseeee.
FDR: Dragged out a depression for 16 years that should have lasted only 3-4 years at the most. Taxed everything.
Truman: Maybe the best Democrat president in my lifetime, but he too had his faults. Firing MacArthur for just one.
Eisenhower: Knew how to pick a good staff, but he was far from perfect too.
Kennedy: A womanizer. And, damn near got us into a nuclear war. But, the only Democrat to reduce, or advocate reducing taxes, in my lifetime.
LBJ: A womanizer, and an a**hole. Created the Great Society (medicare and Medicaid) and started the huge rise in the national debt. Got us into the Vietnam War, fraudulently.
Nixon: Watergate. Resigned in disgrace.
Ford: Pardoned Nixon, which doomed him. Not very bright either.
Carter: Next to Obama, the worst president in my lifetime. Left Reagan double-digit inflation, unemployment, and interest rates. Blew the Iran hostage crisis's, created long gas lines. BTW he was the last Democrat I ever voted for.
Reagan: The best president of my lifetime. Turned Carter's recession into 6-8% GDP growth, got the economy back on it's feet, and created millions of jobs. But, he wasn't perfect. Due to the deal he made with Tip O'Neal, government spending went through the roof, but he got the military rebuilt because of it...I was in the Navy then, and before Reagan we were in bad shape.
Bush I: A good president. But 'read my lips, no tax increases' doomed him. Plus the dirty politics Clinton pulled, complicit with the leftist media by convincing the public that the economy was on a decline, when in fact it was on the rise, and Clinton benefited from it. And, Ross Perot (a friend of Clinton, and a Bush hater) pulled many of Bush's votes away.
Clinton: A consummate liar, a womanizer, a rapist, and all around scumbag. If it wasn't for a Republican Congress, he would never had a balanced budget or welfare reform. He also would not do anything about Hussein's violations of the no-fly zones and UN sanctions, nor did he go after Bin Laden when he had the intelligence and chance to do so. Like a good Democrat, he just passed it on to the next president...something Obama learned from him as well.
Bush II: A moderate who never vetoed a Democrat spending bill. Got us into Iraq and Afghanistan wars. Increased the national debt up till his term, the most...but Obama blows him away.
Obama: Undoubtedly, and not even close, the absolute worst president in my lifetime. A Marxist leaning socialist, and even a bigger liar than Clinton. He has done more damage to this country than any other president since Wilson, and this country will, and is, suffering greatly from his absolute failed leadership. His foreign policy was a disaster, and he decimated the military. Ran up close to $10T (a record) in national debt. Just a corrupt scumbag....period.
Trump: Won because of the condition of the country, especially the economy and dismal jobs...in short, because of Obama's failed leadership. He is not a polished politician, and would not have won if he had been. He is only 62 days into his presidency, and his accomplishments are being masked by the radical leftist obstructionist Democrats, and a corrupt leftist media. The establishment RINOs are also hindering his progress. If you're against Trump, you're for a stagnant to recessionary economy, high taxes, low wages, low wage jobs and part-time jobs, a decimated military used as a social experiment by the Democrats, higher crime, open borders and amnesty for illegals, entitlements through the roof including free healthcare (which will astronomically increase the national debt), high taxes, and Corporations moving jobs off shore. As for this Russia bullcrap, since when has the Democrats EVER bucked the Russians? When? If the Russians wanted anyone to win, it was Hillary! Ted Kennedy even conspired with the Russians to undermine Reagan's presidency!
Mar 22, 2017 09:29:18 #
Mar 22, 2017 09:48:30 #
Rivers wrote:
Hmmmmmmm....Max Boot was an advisor for the McCain... (show quote)
I thought I would find something out of context but must agree it's an excellent article with a rather fair summation of each President referenced..
Thank You for the broad overview of each...
Mar 22, 2017 09:51:27 #
robmull
Loc: florida
Rivers wrote:
Hmmmmmmm....Max Boot was an advisor for the McCain... (show quote)
Great info, Rivers. President Trump (R), is brilliant and "wise." He is the only person in the history of conservative politics to be able to use the liberal progressive (D), cabal, politics, education, media and "entertainment," against themselves, to be elected POTUS, in a LANDSLIDE EARTHQUAKE DECISION, and cause "lefty," to backfire in every arena. Some say "THE DONALD" (R), was "selected" by God as our "GOOD SHEPHERD, to (R)estore dilapidated dwellings." And, by God, the only people who seem to be objecting, use "red-(D)iaper baby," Saul Alinsky (D), as their "hero," {Chris Matthews/"MSLSD"}, and it seems Saul's "hero," {"Rules for Radicals"}, was (D)edicated to; "The Father of (D)eception," the first radical, SATAN. Funny how all that works out; or (D)oesn't. And certainly ANY person in opposition to American free-market Western government, (D)oesn't want President Trump (R), in command. EVER. And "WE" can certainly see why. Our "TRUMP TRAIN" (R), is getting bigger and stronger and faster by-the-day, and President Trump's approval (R)atings are at about 58%, with everybody agreeing but the radical Marx/Alinsky crew (D). And the "(R)epeal..." of the UCA {"Unaffordable 'Control' Act"} can't lose, no mater WHAT Congress does with it. If the UCA gets filibustered and stopped in either the House or Senate, the "(D)eath-spiral," will continue to the end and ONLY the (D)emonrats will be to blame; and President Trump (R), gave it his best-shot, and TRIED to avoid the eminent (D)isaster to American middle-class of total collapse. If the House and the Senate PASS the "Repeal and Replace" bill, President Trump (R), won. Either way. Plus, "WE" will know exactly who ALL the RINO's are!!! Gee, it seems I'm actually getting "tired of winning." Hummmmmmmmm. What IS that "crushing" noise I keep hearing??? GOOOOOOOOOO PRESIDENT "45" DONALD J. {BORN AGAIN} TRUMP (R); JUST LIKE {THANK GOD} THE WEATHER!!!
Mar 22, 2017 10:01:45 #
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Mar 22, 2017 12:49:15 #
slatten49
Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
Rivers wrote:
Hmmmmmmm....Max Boot was an advisor for the McCain... (show quote)
Reasonable opinion or not, Rivers, time will tell what the capsule summaries of President Trump's legacy will be.
Mar 22, 2017 14:55:47 #
slatten49 wrote:
Reasonable opinion or not, Rivers, time will tell what the capsule summaries of President Trump's legacy will be.
You anti-Trumpsters and snowflakes want to write his legacy in his first 62 days! Give me a break!!!!! BTW, his record during this past 62 days is pretty damn good, contrary to what the unhinged Democrats, snowflakes, and biased media want you/us to believe. Wake up.
Mar 22, 2017 15:43:10 #
slatten49
Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
Rivers wrote:
You anti-Trumpsters and snowflakes want to write his legacy in his first 62 days! Give me a break!!!!! BTW, his record during this past 62 days is pretty damn good, contrary to what the unhinged Democrats, snowflakes, and biased media want you/us to believe. Wake up.
Contrary to what you mistakenly suggest, the man is establishing his own legacy...however one chooses to perceive it.
Mar 22, 2017 16:47:59 #
slatten49 wrote:
Contrary to what you mistakenly suggest, the man is establishing his own legacy...however one chooses to perceive it.
I'm not MISTAKENLY suggesting anything, I'm just saying you anti-Trumpster vultures are ready to leap after only 62 days. Perceive that!
Mar 22, 2017 19:15:56 #
slatten49
Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
Rivers wrote:
I'm not MISTAKENLY suggesting anything, I'm just saying you anti-Trumpster vultures are ready to leap after only 62 days. Perceive that!
Yes, you were mistaken to suggest that everyone opposed to Trump wants to write his legacy. A president's actions and high public profile dictate his own legacy.
After reading your posts for some time now, it is also easy to perceive that you are definitely mistaken in your view that you and others who voted for President Trump are the only true patriots on the forum. Myself and many others are proud and patriotic Americans who want success for the president and our great nation, whether we voted for him or not. We just happen to disagree with President Trump's background and vision for achieving said success. Speaking for myself, I believe that with already a questionable start, he is a disaster waiting to happen. I will be both relieved and pleased if I am proven wrong. Rarely do many benefit from a failed presidency or administration.
I will add, if you didn't already know, it should be well known that I voted for Jim Webb as a write-in candidate. I was, with good reason, just as doubtful and hesitant about Mrs. Clinton as I was Mr. Trump...so, voted for neither major party candidate.
Mar 23, 2017 08:11:51 #
slatten49 wrote:
Yes, you were mistaken to suggest that everyone op... (show quote)
You're so full of shit! Webb???? Like many anti-Trumpsters, you wasted your vote. "proud and patriotic Americans"?????? Don't make me laugh. Just like Ipnmajor, you're a left leaning fence straddler.
Mar 23, 2017 12:58:19 #
slatten49
Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
Rivers wrote:
You're so full of shit! Webb???? Like many anti-Trumpsters, you wasted your vote. "proud and patriotic Americans"?????? Don't make me laugh. Just like Ipnmajor, you're a left leaning fence straddler.
Your history of postings reminds me of a quote attributed to Will Rogers..."When ignorance gets started, it knows no bounds."
I suggest you pay heed to another attributed to William F. Buckley..."Truth is a demure lady, much too lady-like to knock you on your head and drag you to her cave. She is there, but people must want her, and seek her out."
I have respected your service. With regard to Lpnmajor's and my patriotism, I strongly suspect our service to country equal to other Veterans on this forum. You, Rivers, need be careful about falling into Mark Twain's definition of a certain kind of patriot..."Patriot: the person who can holler the loudest without knowing what he is hollering about."
Mar 23, 2017 14:37:39 #
slatten49 wrote:
Your history of postings reminds me of a quote att... (show quote)
Spoken like the 'moderate' left-leaning fence straddler that you are....a moderate is someone who has no core values or principals. The rest of your rant is just B.S..
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