Trump's sinking ship.
Mar 27, 2017 15:18:37 #
wuzblynd wrote:
U can put lipstick on a pig, but guess what?? Ur so easy to see through. O pig with lipstick!!!
Okay....a) you're free to think that and b) I never gave a fk what the next motherfker thinks about me.....a win-win situation..........
Mar 27, 2017 15:23:45 #
Trump now blames GOP hard-liners
President says they ‘saved’ Obamacare. Both political parties are not giving up on healthcare changes.
By Laura King
WASHINGTON — President Trump on Sunday took hard-line congressional Republicans to task over last week’s failed attempt to push through a healthcare overhaul measure, but the principal target of his Twitter broadside declined to engage in any sparring with the White House, instead emphasizing the need to move forward.
The episode, however, could prove a harbinger of more attempts by Trump to scapegoat others around him for the debacle that resulted when the president threw his weight for the first time behind a major legislative initiative and it failed.
The measure was aimed at fulfilling a pledge to repeal the Affordable Care Act by Trump, who boasted repeatedly on the campaign trail of his deal-making prowess.
The president had already cast blame for the measure’s failure on Democrats, who noted again Sunday that the White House had made no effort to reach out to them as the legislation was being crafted.
In his Sunday morning tweet, the president laid the primary culpability for the failure to push the measure forward on the hard-right House Freedom Caucus, led by Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.).
Trump said the bloc of lawmakers, aided by conservative advocacy organizations Heritage Action and the Club for Growth, had “saved” the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare, and Planned Parenthood, whose funding would have been cut by the measure.
“Democrats are smiling,” the president declared. The criticism contrasted starkly with his Oval Office comments Friday, when he was careful not to blame his fellow Republicans for the defeat.
Although Trump and House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) have said the measure would not be revived anytime soon, Meadows predicted that a new GOP-backed healthcare plan would eventually be put forth, with Trump playing a leadership role.
“At the end of the day, the most valuable player will be President Trump,” Meadows said on ABC’s “This Week.”
Meadows also insisted there had been “no conversation” about any attempt to force out Ryan, the bill’s principal backer. The speaker has publicly acknowledged that his own efforts to muster sufficient votes had fallen short.
Trump has refrained from any direct public criticism of the speaker, but on Saturday — again on Twitter — he urged followers to watch a Fox News segment on Saturday night that featured commentator Jeanine Pirro excoriating Ryan and calling for his ouster over his role.
White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus insisted that Ryan maintained the president’s favor, although Trump had been “disappointed” by perceived disloyalty on the part of other House Republicans, including members of the Freedom Caucus and some moderates.
“He doesn’t blame Paul Ryan,” Priebus said on “Fox News Sunday.”
Ryan spokeswoman AshLee Strong said the relationship between the president and the speaker remained strong. The two spoke Saturday about moving forward on new agenda items, and during another call Sunday, the president told Ryan that his tweet had nothing to do with the speaker, Strong said.
The planned floor vote on the bill was hastily scrapped Friday when it became apparent that Trump and Ryan did not have the votes to win even in the Republican-controlled House.
The GOP-authored measure was intended as a high-profile repudiation of one of former President Obama’s signature achievements.
But as written, the replacement bill drew fire from both moderate Republicans who said it would deal too heavy a blow to working-class Americans — millions of whom would have faced loss of health insurance, according to the Congressional Budget Office — and ultraconservatives who said it included too many “nanny state” elements of the Affordable Care Act.
One early critic of the House measure, Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.), repeated his view that the bill had been crafted too hastily, but said there was no reason not to try again. Like other Trump supporters, Cotton insisted that the Affordable Care Act was doomed to failure.
“The president is simply stating a fact, that the entire healthcare system is groaning under the weight of Obamacare,” Cotton said. “We don’t have a choice to revisit it or not revisit it. We have to revisit it.”
Senior Democrats, meanwhile, denounced Trump’s stated intention to let the Affordable Care Act “explode” rather than join in efforts to help improve it. They acknowledge that the law would benefit from changes in certain areas, but say it has succeeded in bringing down the nation’s uninsured rate to a record low.
“For the president to say that he’ll destroy it, or undermine it, that’s not presidential — that’s petulance,” the Senate’s top Democrat, Sen. Charles E. Schumer of New York, said on ABC.
“It’s not going to work,” he said. “It’s going to backfire.”
Other strong opponents of the GOP bill reached out to the White House, saying a new approach might be in order.
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), who had sought the Democratic presidential nomination, said on CNN’s “State of the Union” that he planned to introduce a single-payer healthcare plan — a quixotic gesture, perhaps, but one for which Sanders said he would seek bipartisan support.
“President Trump, come on board,” Sanders said. “Let’s work together.”
laura.king@latimes.com
Twitter: @laurakingLAT
Times staff writer Lisa Mascaro in Washington contributed to this report.
President says they ‘saved’ Obamacare. Both political parties are not giving up on healthcare changes.
By Laura King
WASHINGTON — President Trump on Sunday took hard-line congressional Republicans to task over last week’s failed attempt to push through a healthcare overhaul measure, but the principal target of his Twitter broadside declined to engage in any sparring with the White House, instead emphasizing the need to move forward.
The episode, however, could prove a harbinger of more attempts by Trump to scapegoat others around him for the debacle that resulted when the president threw his weight for the first time behind a major legislative initiative and it failed.
The measure was aimed at fulfilling a pledge to repeal the Affordable Care Act by Trump, who boasted repeatedly on the campaign trail of his deal-making prowess.
The president had already cast blame for the measure’s failure on Democrats, who noted again Sunday that the White House had made no effort to reach out to them as the legislation was being crafted.
In his Sunday morning tweet, the president laid the primary culpability for the failure to push the measure forward on the hard-right House Freedom Caucus, led by Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.).
Trump said the bloc of lawmakers, aided by conservative advocacy organizations Heritage Action and the Club for Growth, had “saved” the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare, and Planned Parenthood, whose funding would have been cut by the measure.
“Democrats are smiling,” the president declared. The criticism contrasted starkly with his Oval Office comments Friday, when he was careful not to blame his fellow Republicans for the defeat.
Although Trump and House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) have said the measure would not be revived anytime soon, Meadows predicted that a new GOP-backed healthcare plan would eventually be put forth, with Trump playing a leadership role.
“At the end of the day, the most valuable player will be President Trump,” Meadows said on ABC’s “This Week.”
Meadows also insisted there had been “no conversation” about any attempt to force out Ryan, the bill’s principal backer. The speaker has publicly acknowledged that his own efforts to muster sufficient votes had fallen short.
Trump has refrained from any direct public criticism of the speaker, but on Saturday — again on Twitter — he urged followers to watch a Fox News segment on Saturday night that featured commentator Jeanine Pirro excoriating Ryan and calling for his ouster over his role.
White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus insisted that Ryan maintained the president’s favor, although Trump had been “disappointed” by perceived disloyalty on the part of other House Republicans, including members of the Freedom Caucus and some moderates.
“He doesn’t blame Paul Ryan,” Priebus said on “Fox News Sunday.”
Ryan spokeswoman AshLee Strong said the relationship between the president and the speaker remained strong. The two spoke Saturday about moving forward on new agenda items, and during another call Sunday, the president told Ryan that his tweet had nothing to do with the speaker, Strong said.
The planned floor vote on the bill was hastily scrapped Friday when it became apparent that Trump and Ryan did not have the votes to win even in the Republican-controlled House.
The GOP-authored measure was intended as a high-profile repudiation of one of former President Obama’s signature achievements.
But as written, the replacement bill drew fire from both moderate Republicans who said it would deal too heavy a blow to working-class Americans — millions of whom would have faced loss of health insurance, according to the Congressional Budget Office — and ultraconservatives who said it included too many “nanny state” elements of the Affordable Care Act.
One early critic of the House measure, Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.), repeated his view that the bill had been crafted too hastily, but said there was no reason not to try again. Like other Trump supporters, Cotton insisted that the Affordable Care Act was doomed to failure.
“The president is simply stating a fact, that the entire healthcare system is groaning under the weight of Obamacare,” Cotton said. “We don’t have a choice to revisit it or not revisit it. We have to revisit it.”
Senior Democrats, meanwhile, denounced Trump’s stated intention to let the Affordable Care Act “explode” rather than join in efforts to help improve it. They acknowledge that the law would benefit from changes in certain areas, but say it has succeeded in bringing down the nation’s uninsured rate to a record low.
“For the president to say that he’ll destroy it, or undermine it, that’s not presidential — that’s petulance,” the Senate’s top Democrat, Sen. Charles E. Schumer of New York, said on ABC.
“It’s not going to work,” he said. “It’s going to backfire.”
Other strong opponents of the GOP bill reached out to the White House, saying a new approach might be in order.
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), who had sought the Democratic presidential nomination, said on CNN’s “State of the Union” that he planned to introduce a single-payer healthcare plan — a quixotic gesture, perhaps, but one for which Sanders said he would seek bipartisan support.
“President Trump, come on board,” Sanders said. “Let’s work together.”
laura.king@latimes.com
Twitter: @laurakingLAT
Times staff writer Lisa Mascaro in Washington contributed to this report.
Mar 27, 2017 15:27:28 #
Michael Rich
Loc: Lapine Oregon
Progressive One wrote:
Okay....a) you're free to think that and b) I never gave a fk what the next motherfker thinks about me.....a win-win situation..........
If you don't care what people think about you....why are you always trying to sell your greatness on OPP and who knows where else ?
You are the most outlandish self promoter I've ever read.
Mar 27, 2017 15:37:29 #
byronglimish wrote:
If you don't care what people think about you....why are you always trying to sell your greatness on OPP and who knows where else ?
You are the most outlandish self promoter I've ever read.
You are the most outlandish self promoter I've ever read.
you're too fking stupid to realize those are responses to racist characterizations thrown my way....they don't bother me but my responses bother them.....it is not about selling greatness at all...it is about giving the antagonist something to be antagonized about....when they stop i'll stop...otherwise i'll remind them daily.......as a matter of principle.......
Mar 27, 2017 15:40:01 #
President Trump Wants Democrats Help With Health Reform
Hope Yen / AP
Mar 26, 2017
WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump's aides opened the door to working with moderate Democrats on health care and other issues while Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer quickly offered to find common ground with Trump for repairing former President Barack Obama's health care law.
Schumer said Sunday that Trump must be willing to drop attempts to repeal his predecessor's signature achievement, warning that Trump was destined to "lose again" on other parts of his agenda if he remained beholden to conservative Republicans.
Trump initially focused the blame for the failure on Democrats and predicted a dire future for the current law. But on Sunday he turned his criticism toward conservative lawmakers for the failure of the Republican bill, complaining on Twitter: "Democrats are smiling in D.C. that the Freedom Caucus, with the help of Club For Growth and Heritage, have saved Planned Parenthood & Ocare!"
The Freedom Caucus is a hard-right group of more than 30 GOP House members who were largely responsible for blocking the bill to undo the Affordable Care Act, or "Obamacare." The bill was pulled from the House floor Friday in a humiliating political defeat for the president, having lacked support from conservative Republicans, some moderate Republicans and Democrats.
In additional fallout from the jarring setback, Rep. Ted Poe, R-Texas, said he was leaving the caucus. Poe tweeted Friday that some lawmakers "would've voted against the 10 Commandments."
"We must come together to find solutions to move this country forward," Poe said Sunday in a written statement. "Saying 'no' is easy, leading is hard but that is what we were elected to do."
On Sunday, Trump aides made clear that the president could seek support from moderate Democrats on upcoming legislative battles ranging from the budget and tax cuts to health care, leaving open the possibility he could revisit health care legislation. Whether he would work to repair Obama's law was a big question.
White House chief of staff Reince Priebus scolded conservative Republicans, explaining that Trump had felt "disappointed" with a "number of people he thought were loyal to him that weren't."
"It's time for the party to start governing," Priebus said. "I think it's time for our folks to come together, and I also think it's time to potentially get a few moderate Democrats on board as well."
As he ponders his next steps, Trump faces decisions on whether to back administrative changes to fix Obama's health care law or undermine it as prices for insurance plans rise in many markets. Over the weekend, the president tweeted a promise of achieving a "great healthcare plan" because Obamacare will "explode."
Priebus did not answer directly regarding Trump's choice, saying that fixes to the health law will have to come legislatively and he wants to ensure "people don't get left behind."
"I don't think the president is closing the door on anything," he said.
Schumer, a New York Democrat, suggested that "if he changes, he could have a different presidency."
"But he's going to have to tell the Freedom Caucus and the hard-right special wealthy interests who are dominating his presidency ... he can't work with them, and we'll certainly look at his proposals," Schumersaid.
Their comments came after another day of finger-pointing among Republicans, both subtle and otherwise. On Saturday, Trump urged Americans in a tweet to watch Judge Jeanine Pirro's program on Fox News that night. She led her show by calling for House Speaker Paul Ryan to resign, blaming him for the defeat of the bill in the Republican-controlled chamber.
Priebus described the two events as "coincidental," insisting that Trump was helping out a friend by plugging her show and no "preplanning" occurred.
"He doesn't blame Paul Ryan," Priebus said. "In fact, he thought Paul Ryan worked really hard. He enjoys his relationship with Paul Ryan, thinks that Paul Ryan is a great speaker of the House."
Priebus said Trump was looking ahead for now at debate over the budget and a tax plan, which he said would include a border adjustment tax and middle-class tax cuts.
"It's more or less a warning shot that we are willing to talk to anyone. We always have been," he said. "I think more so now than ever, it's time for both parties to come together and get to real reforms in this country."
Rep. Mark Meadows, R-N.C., chairman of the Freedom Caucus, acknowledged he was doing a lot of "self-critiquing" after the health care defeat. He insisted the GOP overhaul effort was not over and that he regretted not spending more time with moderate Republicans and Democrats "to find some consensus."
Priebus spoke on "Fox News Sunday," and Schumer and Meadows appeared on ABC's "This Week."
___Associated Press writer Catherine Lucey contributed to this report.
President Trump and the GOP Humbled by Health Care Failure
House GOP Pulls Vote On Trump's American Health Care Act
Hope Yen / AP
Mar 26, 2017
WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump's aides opened the door to working with moderate Democrats on health care and other issues while Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer quickly offered to find common ground with Trump for repairing former President Barack Obama's health care law.
Schumer said Sunday that Trump must be willing to drop attempts to repeal his predecessor's signature achievement, warning that Trump was destined to "lose again" on other parts of his agenda if he remained beholden to conservative Republicans.
Trump initially focused the blame for the failure on Democrats and predicted a dire future for the current law. But on Sunday he turned his criticism toward conservative lawmakers for the failure of the Republican bill, complaining on Twitter: "Democrats are smiling in D.C. that the Freedom Caucus, with the help of Club For Growth and Heritage, have saved Planned Parenthood & Ocare!"
The Freedom Caucus is a hard-right group of more than 30 GOP House members who were largely responsible for blocking the bill to undo the Affordable Care Act, or "Obamacare." The bill was pulled from the House floor Friday in a humiliating political defeat for the president, having lacked support from conservative Republicans, some moderate Republicans and Democrats.
In additional fallout from the jarring setback, Rep. Ted Poe, R-Texas, said he was leaving the caucus. Poe tweeted Friday that some lawmakers "would've voted against the 10 Commandments."
"We must come together to find solutions to move this country forward," Poe said Sunday in a written statement. "Saying 'no' is easy, leading is hard but that is what we were elected to do."
On Sunday, Trump aides made clear that the president could seek support from moderate Democrats on upcoming legislative battles ranging from the budget and tax cuts to health care, leaving open the possibility he could revisit health care legislation. Whether he would work to repair Obama's law was a big question.
White House chief of staff Reince Priebus scolded conservative Republicans, explaining that Trump had felt "disappointed" with a "number of people he thought were loyal to him that weren't."
"It's time for the party to start governing," Priebus said. "I think it's time for our folks to come together, and I also think it's time to potentially get a few moderate Democrats on board as well."
As he ponders his next steps, Trump faces decisions on whether to back administrative changes to fix Obama's health care law or undermine it as prices for insurance plans rise in many markets. Over the weekend, the president tweeted a promise of achieving a "great healthcare plan" because Obamacare will "explode."
Priebus did not answer directly regarding Trump's choice, saying that fixes to the health law will have to come legislatively and he wants to ensure "people don't get left behind."
"I don't think the president is closing the door on anything," he said.
Schumer, a New York Democrat, suggested that "if he changes, he could have a different presidency."
"But he's going to have to tell the Freedom Caucus and the hard-right special wealthy interests who are dominating his presidency ... he can't work with them, and we'll certainly look at his proposals," Schumersaid.
Their comments came after another day of finger-pointing among Republicans, both subtle and otherwise. On Saturday, Trump urged Americans in a tweet to watch Judge Jeanine Pirro's program on Fox News that night. She led her show by calling for House Speaker Paul Ryan to resign, blaming him for the defeat of the bill in the Republican-controlled chamber.
Priebus described the two events as "coincidental," insisting that Trump was helping out a friend by plugging her show and no "preplanning" occurred.
"He doesn't blame Paul Ryan," Priebus said. "In fact, he thought Paul Ryan worked really hard. He enjoys his relationship with Paul Ryan, thinks that Paul Ryan is a great speaker of the House."
Priebus said Trump was looking ahead for now at debate over the budget and a tax plan, which he said would include a border adjustment tax and middle-class tax cuts.
"It's more or less a warning shot that we are willing to talk to anyone. We always have been," he said. "I think more so now than ever, it's time for both parties to come together and get to real reforms in this country."
Rep. Mark Meadows, R-N.C., chairman of the Freedom Caucus, acknowledged he was doing a lot of "self-critiquing" after the health care defeat. He insisted the GOP overhaul effort was not over and that he regretted not spending more time with moderate Republicans and Democrats "to find some consensus."
Priebus spoke on "Fox News Sunday," and Schumer and Meadows appeared on ABC's "This Week."
___Associated Press writer Catherine Lucey contributed to this report.
President Trump and the GOP Humbled by Health Care Failure
House GOP Pulls Vote On Trump's American Health Care Act
Mar 27, 2017 15:51:20 #
Michael Rich
Loc: Lapine Oregon
Progressive One wrote:
you're too fking stupid to realize those are responses to racist characterizations thrown my way....they don't bother me but my responses bother them.....it is not about selling greatness at all...it is about giving the antagonist something to be antagonized about....when they stop i'll stop...otherwise i'll remind them daily.......as a matter of principle.......
Self importance is a fragile life to live ....maybe some day your mirror won't dominate who you think you are.
Mar 27, 2017 16:02:05 #
byronglimish wrote:
Self importance is a fragile life to live ....maybe some day your mirror won't dominate who you think you are.
If I'm not bothered by ME.....don't let it bother YOU...sure is what it seems like....i've got enough awards to make me think others see me in a greater light than I see myself......which is not great at all...humility is motivational....but at the same time I won't let others be comfortable with themselves trying to lower who I worked to become.....that need to gratify their ego on its own merits and not spend their time worrying about me....because I don't give a shit who you present yourself as....you can think you're the greatest thing since white bread and it won't bother me at all.....try it.......
Mar 27, 2017 16:07:35 #
Michael Rich
Loc: Lapine Oregon
Progressive One wrote:
If I'm not bothered by ME.....don't let it bother ... (show quote)
There's one award you're needing in the most urgent way....THE HUMILITY AWARD ...and you don't earn it by constantly patting yourself on the back.
Mar 27, 2017 16:18:40 #
byronglimish wrote:
There's one award you're needing in the most urgent way....THE HUMILITY AWARD ...and you don't earn it by constantly patting yourself on the back.
well...your ghetto, welfare, crack and other backwoods hillbilly cracka ass statements won't help...unlike others, humility got me where I am because I didn't think I knew every gotdamn thing once i reached adulthood....i knew I didn't know shit and needed to become highly educated.....and the higher I progressed the less I realized that I knew beforehand. That is the epitome of humility..
Mar 27, 2017 16:34:25 #
wuzblynd
Loc: thomson georgia
Progressive One wrote:
Okay....a) you're free to think that and b) I never gave a fk what the next motherfker thinks about me.....a win-win situation..........
Oh, u care. Mr "I teach and am not taught" . My ass anyone who can't learn anything else, has successfully became a dumbass.
Mar 27, 2017 17:40:42 #
Michael Rich
Loc: Lapine Oregon
Progressive One wrote:
well...your ghetto, welfare, crack and other backwoods hillbilly cracka ass statements won't help...unlike others, humility got me where I am because I didn't think I knew every gotdamn thing once i reached adulthood....i knew I didn't know shit and needed to become highly educated.....and the higher I progressed the less I realized that I knew beforehand. That is the epitome of humility..
You're angry ghetto response is a blatant reveal of...limited self worth and self loathing ....and that poor attitude won't help your effort to grow into a better man.
If just one time you could honestly look at yourself the way others see you "friend's included" you would be shocked to find out.....that you're not that complicated...you are the Harry Houdini of self delusion.
Mar 27, 2017 19:45:24 #
wuzblynd wrote:
Oh, u care. Mr "I teach and am not taught" . My ass anyone who can't learn anything else, has successfully became a dumbass.
Funny how you will tell someone what they DO think or care about after they say they DO NOT care about that VERY SAME THING themselves....just to try and strengthen your argument....and then try to end it with an insult to boot....hilarious.......you people are funny!!
Mar 27, 2017 19:51:54 #
Michael Rich
Loc: Lapine Oregon
Progressive One wrote:
Funny how you will tell someone what they DO think or care about after they say they DO NOT care about that VERY SAME THING themselves....just to try and strengthen your argument....and then try to end it with an insult to boot....hilarious.......you people are funny!!
you people are for entertainment.....carry on...
Mar 27, 2017 19:57:25 #
byronglimish wrote:
you people are for entertainment.....carry on...
yes indeed....as I engage the one who has to resort to insult in order to feel adequate and show that true cracka side........go into your ghetto, welfare, crack thing...show me your version of true whiteness...........
Mar 27, 2017 20:03:38 #
Michael Rich
Loc: Lapine Oregon
Progressive One wrote:
yes indeed....as I engage the one who has to resort to insult in order to feel adequate and show that true cracka side........go into your ghetto, welfare, crack thing...show me your version of true whiteness...........
Come fishing with me.
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