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Mar 19, 2017 11:27:53   #
theotts
 
Ricko wrote:
perma- The 90million + out of the work force does include retirees, etc. as you point out but the Labor Participation rate is the lowest since WWII. How can that be since unemployment is below 5%. Do you see how fake the rate is ? Forbes, using different. scenarios calculates the unemployment to be anywhere from 14% to 40% depending on the factors being considered. We all know that the 4.2 or 4.5% is a bogus number . I hope that the Trump administration will address this once the more important agenda items are taken care of. We have been using this fake formula for years but that does not make it right. America First !!!
perma- The 90million + out of the work force does ... (show quote)


You completely missed the point of the Forbes article. It doesn't say a word about a "real" unemployment rate. It waxes rhapsodic about a system in which a little more than 40% of us can support all of us in a relatively opulent lifestyle. Nonetheless, it makes clear that those numbers have remained in their present prportions since statistics have been compiled.

The proportions of people not in the workforce are changing in the small way they are because, as always, demographics are changing. The Baby Boomers are retiring. A huge demographic bubble is leaving the workforce. So, assuming only that you use the long-standing method of calculation, unemployment is, in fact, around 4.2%. Everyone who 'knows... Unemployment rates are... bogus' simply cannot decipher a simple declarative sentence.
As for declines in 'real wages' (inflation-adjusted), that is a legacy of the Reagan Administration. It did turn around briefly under Clinton. Under Obama, the rate of decline went down. Reagan, Bush I, Bush lII, and, so far Trump, have all presided over increasing rates of decline.

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Mar 19, 2017 11:54:03   #
Kazudy
 
Well Mr.Snowflake,if your confused and unhappy with the Orange man,that has to be good.

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Mar 19, 2017 12:05:04   #
theotts
 
Kazudy wrote:
Well Mr.Snowflake,if your confused and unhappy with the Orange man,that has to be good.


A frank admission by a Grumpy Trumpie that it doesn't care how badly things go, so long as it gets to be a sore loser.
If my daughter brought you to meet my wife and I, I'd disown her. Then hurt you for defiling her.

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Mar 19, 2017 12:23:14   #
Kazudy
 
I'm not Grumpy any more! Not since that lying crook lost the election. If your daughter brought me over to meet your wife,your wife would encourage your daughter to fly away with me,so that your daughter wouldn't be stuck with a loser like you. How old is your daughter?

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Mar 19, 2017 12:29:57   #
EL Loc: Massachusetts
 
Cool Breeze wrote:
I'm a unbeliever! How much are these jobs paying? Are there benefits? http://flag.blackened.net/revolt/racism/labour.html


Some people are enjoying the benefit of eating.

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Mar 19, 2017 12:40:14   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Kazudy wrote:
I'm not Grumpy any more! Not since that lying crook lost the election. If your daughter brought me over to meet your wife,your wife would encourage your daughter to fly away with me,so that your daughter wouldn't be stuck with a loser like you. How old is your daughter?




Kaz,

The biggest liar won the election, thanks to fools like you.

Yet you have not been able to see that yet..

Wow, speaks volumes about trump voters..







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Mar 19, 2017 12:51:22   #
theotts
 
Kazudy wrote:
I'm not Grumpy any more! Not since that lying crook lost the election. If your daughter brought me over to meet your wife,your wife would encourage your daughter to fly away with me,so that your daughter wouldn't be stuck with a loser like you. How old is your daughter?


Irrelevant. And the lying crook won the election. Sort of.
My wife doesn't like ignorant dimwits, so you're off, as usual.
I don't have a daughter; that was a theoretical.
You've told me all I need to know about your lack of character and your mindless ignorance by answering my factual post with a jejune taunt.
Imbecile.

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Mar 19, 2017 12:52:43   #
EL Loc: Massachusetts
 
permafrost wrote:
Kaz,

The biggest liar won the election, thanks to fools like you.

Yet you have not been able to see that yet..

Wow, speaks volumes about trump voters..


Sorry!! Hillary owns that title. You'll have to come up with another one.

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Mar 19, 2017 12:56:03   #
Big Bass
 
permafrost wrote:
I am confused, was under the impression that conservatives and the right wing were big fans of free trade.

Now trump does this. Or actually the g20 does this on behalf of trump..

so are you who voted trump happy with this???

http://money.cnn.com/2017/03/18/news/economy/g20-trade-protectionism-trump-germany/index.html


The world's biggest economies have dropped a long-standing public endorsement of free trade at their first meeting with the Trump administration.
Finance ministers and central bank governors from the G-20 group of leading economies, including the U.S., China, Mexico, Germany and India, held two days of tough talking in the German town of Baden-Baden.
The formal statement issued after the meeting contained only a bland reference to "working to strengthen the contribution of trade to our economies."
Conspicuous by its absence was the phrase "we will resist all forms of protectionism" that was contained in the communique from the last meeting of the group in China, July 2016.
Reports suggested China and Australia, among others, pushed hard for the commitment to be retained. German finance minister Wolfgang Schaeuble, speaking to reporters after the meeting, said the talks were long and frank. Rather than omit trade from the statement altogether, he said he wanted to find a formulation all could agree.
Dropping the commitment to fight protectionism reflects serious disagreements over one of the key principles that has underpinned the global economy for years. World leaders redoubled their commitment to free trade in the wake of the global financial crisis in 2008 as they sought to prevent recession turning into a global depression.
I am confused, was under the impression that conse... (show quote)

There must be 2 Trumps, this one and the one the fake media portrays:-
http://constitution.com/saudi-arabian-leaders-agree-travel-ban-call-trump-true-friend-muslims/

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Mar 19, 2017 13:18:23   #
theotts
 
Big Bass wrote:
There must be 2 Trumps, this one and the one the fake media portrays:-
http://constitution.com/saudi-arabian-leaders-agree-travel-ban-call-trump-true-friend-muslims/


The source you linked is about as reliable as a supermarket tabloid. This rag is of the 'statue of elvis found on the moon' variety.
17 of the 20 911 hijackers were Saudis. The Saudi government is virtually the sole support for the madrassas in the tribal areas in the mountains between Afghanistan and Pakistan. The proverbial colleges of Islamist radicalism. So, even in the extraordinarily unlikely event this article contains a scintilla of truth, big whoop. What the clown agreed to is hugely dysfunctional. Iran has the largest Shi'a population in the world. Shi'a and Sunni are bitter enemies. Iran could be used as a proxy to fight al Qa'ida, Daeth, Boko Harum et al. And, before you post your anile response, the Shi'a/Sunni animus goes back 15 centuries. If you hadn't outgrown the desks in fourth grade, you'd know that.

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Mar 19, 2017 13:25:02   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
permafrost wrote:
Kaz,

The biggest liar won the election, thanks to fools like you.

Yet you have not been able to see that yet..

Wow, speaks volumes about trump voters..


False...YOU or any of your dip stick party members did not win....so no...the liars did not gain the white house....you LOST!

And we wonder at all why some flake azz drunk on a frozen lake that has a "relationship" with his "lover Goat" should even be online? Perma Frost really is Perma DIPSHIT!

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Mar 19, 2017 13:34:37   #
Ricko Loc: Florida
 
Randy131 wrote:
GREAT, finally something good for the American workers, that the Democrats claim they have been looking out for, by allowing anyone and their brother to enter the USA illegally, and stay to take American jobs. All this while the USA is in a recession, where for 8 years the American people's averaged income has gone down for the middleclass, their wealth has disappeared, and the middleclass numbers have been decimated.

Under Obama and the Democrats, the 'US Workforce' has declined to it's lowest level in percentage, than any time over the last 40 years, and that percentage 40 years ago was on a much smaller US population. Today's US population is almost twice what it was 40 years ago, meaning many more American citizens are out of work today than ever before in US history, while the Obama administration had to keep dropping American workers from the 'US Workforce' in order to get the 'Unemployment Rate' to falsely and unrealistically decline, and that is called rigging the numbers.

All our major trade partners run billions of dollars in surplus trade against us, so you expect us to worry about a trade war, when if that comes it will benefit the American worker, because then it will make it profitable again to produce all the things that we used to produce here, but the Democrats policies, regulations, and taxes have driven those producers from our country, if they wanted to stay solvent and keep producing products to sell all around the world. Then they were being made by foreign workers in foreign countries, and what President Trump is doing is creating incentive for those companies, once driven out by Democrats, to one again return to the USA, and hire American workers to produce here, what they have beeen having foreign workers produce overseas.

Today the Unions are starting to love Donald Trump and the Republicans, which has you liberals, progressives, and Democrats, synonymous with socialists, communists, and fascists, scared to death. Many black people are also seeing the light, and spreading the word, which also gives you a death threat scare for the Democratic Party. This is why the Democrats are using the only thing they now how to do against someone that is becoming more popular by the day, especially with Unions and black people, and that is 'OBSTRUCTIONISM', which the American people are well aware of because it is so easily obvious, as also many American people who didn't vote for President Trump, and most people dislike and abhor it, for not giving the man the American people elected as their Prrsident, to have a chance to do the job that he promised them to get elected.
GREAT, finally something good for the American wor... (show quote)


Perma-as I understand it the Globalists were totally against protectionism. However, since Trump said that he was
for free, but fair, trade they have succumbed and now will not object to Trump protecting the American worker. As Trump has pointed out, he is not an isolationist, but will not stand idly by while the American worker is being taken
advantage of. So they now know that we will renegotiate trade deals but they will be either fair to both sides or
America will get the advantage as opposed to the raw end of the deal. Randy has it correct and as Trump continues to do the people's work, the snowflakes will melt away. America First !!!

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Mar 19, 2017 13:46:58   #
theotts
 
America Only wrote:
False...YOU or any of your dip stick party members did not win....so no...the liars did not gain the white house....you LOST!

And we wonder at all why some flake azz drunk on a frozen lake that has a "relationship" with his "lover Goat" should even be online? Perma Frost really is Perma DIPSHIT!


Only someone dangerously delusional could believe that. Can you name and document a lie Clinton told? For every valid Clinton lie, I'll give you ten from the Orange Menace. To say nothing of perfectly vapid claims by His Assholiness; "I know more than the generals." "When I'm president, ISIS will be gone in six weeks.(he's three weeks past due) " The picture he hung, ostensibly of his inauguration crowd, clearly dated Jan 21st, the day of the Women's March. The claim to have saved jobs at Carrier, when in fact his 'agreement' resulted in more jobs lost than originally planned. Similarly with Ford. His complaints about Obama's vacation time: he's on pace to exceed Obama by several multiples.

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Mar 19, 2017 13:48:40   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
theotts wrote:
The source you linked is about as reliable as a supermarket tabloid. This rag is of the 'statue of elvis found on the moon' variety.
17 of the 20 911 hijackers were Saudis. The Saudi government is virtually the sole support for the madrassas in the tribal areas in the mountains between Afghanistan and Pakistan. The proverbial colleges of Islamist radicalism. So, even in the extraordinarily unlikely event this article contains a scintilla of truth, big whoop. What the clown agreed to is hugely dysfunctional. Iran has the largest Shi'a population in the world. Shi'a and Sunni are bitter enemies. Iran could be used as a proxy to fight al Qa'ida, Daeth, Boko Harum et al. And, before you post your anile response, the Shi'a/Sunni animus goes back 15 centuries. If you hadn't outgrown the desks in fourth grade, you'd know that.
The source you linked is about as reliable as a su... (show quote)


Yeah we are all better off now that you Black Negglar King of Kenya funded, armed, and created Isis to begin with! Tune in to your RAG CNN for some more slime bag news that supports scum dog liberals......

You lost...buy some grease to ease the pain from getting bent over...and it seems according to what you post, we are NOT done with you yet!

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Mar 19, 2017 14:02:13   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
theotts wrote:
Only someone dangerously delusional could believe that. Can you name and document a lie Clinton told? For every valid Clinton lie, I'll give you ten from the Orange Menace. To say nothing of perfectly vapid claims by His Assholiness; "I know more than the generals." "When I'm president, ISIS will be gone in six weeks.(he's three weeks past due) " The picture he hung, ostensibly of his inauguration crowd, clearly dated Jan 21st, the day of the Women's March. The claim to have saved jobs at Carrier, when in fact his 'agreement' resulted in more jobs lost than originally planned. Similarly with Ford. His complaints about Obama's vacation time: he's on pace to exceed Obama by several multiples.
Only someone dangerously delusional could believe ... (show quote)


You have to stop looking in your mirror, save your lies for your self. Clinton has lied as much as Obama and that list would take 8 years to type out if not more and YOU know it. Look at what you yourself state, "FOR EVERY VALID CLINTON LIE".......

Back to your sea gull dinners.....you dip stick democraps have been the poster boys and girls for murder and dishonesty and anti-American activity for so long, it is more than merely pathetic. From your one time smiling drunk Teddy Boy killing Mary Jo by driving his car off the bridge, to Rapist BILL claiming he did not have sex with that woman, to keep you health care, shipping cargo planes full of cash and weapons to so called REBELS that started what is now known as ISIS, to each and every political statement EVER made by Hillary. She never one time EVER had a single sentence come out of her mouth that was truthful! Her entire family is corrupt. The list of death behind her is staggering.

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