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Mar 18, 2017 15:54:12   #
Fay Guht
 
Lets look at the idea of eliminating all money. Having it, working for it, hoarding it or using it asa measure of status.

Lets make EVERYTHING free.
Cars. Housing. Consumer goods. Fuel.
Everything.

No barter. Simply ask for anything and you can have it.

One stipulation: everyone, if able bodied, has to contribute 30 hours a week doing something. This could be the entry to participation.

Think about it. Since no effort attachs to anything, everything becomes a measure of nothing.

Want to drive a Jaguar? Sure. But since their free, where's the status.

Nothing means anything anymore.

In the world of things.

People will start to distinguish themselves through their efforts-building a boat or assembling something or whatever.

But everything will be free.

No crime. NO ELITES. No manipulation.

WHAT DO YOU VIEWERS THINK?

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Mar 18, 2017 15:56:00   #
Quakerwidow Loc: Chestertown, MD
 
Makes sense to me, but then as a woman I am already working pretty constantly for very little money.

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Mar 18, 2017 16:05:26   #
Fay Guht
 
Just think, under my system there would be nothing to work for.

Everything free. Everything.

It then takes on new meaning. I. E., nothing. If everyone can have a Mercedes, who cares?

This would allow you as a woman yo free up your energies, NOT BUYING THEIR JUNK, but rather contributing your talents yo something YOU value.

And we could all experience what you've created.

And the elite pigs, who set us up to better one another by buying junk to outdo each other....their era is gone.

The readon I bring this up us that un the next 3-5 years automated trucks will supplant driven trucks......1 million plus drivers out of a job!

Lets kill the meaning of money and ket them and us explore our real, unmanipulated talents.

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Mar 18, 2017 16:08:32   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Fay Guht wrote:
Lets look at the idea of eliminating all money. Having it, working for it, hoarding it or using it asa measure of status.

Lets make EVERYTHING free.
Cars. Housing. Consumer goods. Fuel.
Everything.

No barter. Simply ask for anything and you can have it.

One stipulation: everyone, if able bodied, has to contribute 30 hours a week doing something. This could be the entry to participation.

Think about it. Since no effort attachs to anything, everything becomes a measure of nothing.

Want to drive a Jaguar? Sure. But since their free, where's the status.

Nothing means anything anymore.

In the world of things.

People will start to distinguish themselves through their efforts-building a boat or assembling something or whatever.

But everything will be free.

No crime. NO ELITES. No manipulation.

WHAT DO YOU VIEWERS THINK?
Lets look at the idea of eliminating all money. H... (show quote)


Does this include beer, and BBQ?

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Mar 18, 2017 16:22:39   #
peter11937 Loc: NYS
 
archie bunker wrote:
Does this include beer, and BBQ?


Why work to build anything if it is free, why repair anything, etc,? So civilization dissolves itself.

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Mar 18, 2017 16:24:38   #
Fay Guht
 
archie bunker wrote:
Does this include beer, and BBQ?



Actually, yes it would. I mean everything.

Think about this. Since everything is available to everyone, none of us would try to out status
the next guy.

An example: I want a Jaguar. I go to the dealer and get one. Free.

Now I start driving.

You see me driving this and you say yo yourself, "I think I'll walk over and get one, too."

And you do.

Since anyone can have anything, status items would become a meaningless novelty.

And occupancy would get old quick since it doesn't mean anything.

Since anyone can have it.

And you'd never be threatened with theft causr the thieves can have em too.

So you (everyone else) would tire of a meaningless occupancy and then turn toward yourself to find your talents or interests.

Everone would benefit because you'd be challenging yourself in something you consider meaningful.

And goods, and the stupidity of trying to outdo each other would change.

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Mar 18, 2017 16:37:57   #
Fay Guht
 
peter11937 wrote:
Why work to build anything if it is free, why repair anything, etc,? So civilization dissolves itself.


Im wondering if people, once liberated from working to distinguish themselves from each other by buying increasingly expensive junk, if people wouldn't just do the craft for crafts sake.

Remember, the elites have us convinced that riding in a depreciating car, impressing people we dont know and who probably dont care, while being entertained by a radio with stupid music, while going to a place we'd rather not be, with people we'd probably never have as friends, to buy more junk to impress even more people who dont care, while missing the best years of our kids lives who are being raised by minimum wage workers at the day care so we can be free to ride in the depreciating car, impressing......

And at the end of it all......who are we?

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Mar 18, 2017 16:38:44   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
I pick the job of tendin the rabbits on giligans island.

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Mar 18, 2017 16:39:16   #
Zombiefarmer23 Loc: Bull Hills
 
Fay Guht wrote:
Actually, yes it would. I mean everything.

Think about this. Since everything is available to everyone, none of us would try to out status
the next guy.

An example: I want a Jaguar. I go to the dealer and get one. Free.

Now I start driving.

You see me driving this and you say yo yourself, "I think I'll walk over and get one, too."

And you do.

Since anyone can have anything, status items would become a meaningless novelty.

And occupancy would get old quick since it doesn't mean anything.

Since anyone can have it.

And you'd never be threatened with theft causr the thieves can have em too.

So you (everyone else) would tire of a meaningless occupancy and then turn toward yourself to find your talents or interests.

Everone would benefit because you'd be challenging yourself in something you consider meaningful.

And goods, and the stupidity of trying to outdo each other would change.
Actually, yes it would. I mean everything. br ... (show quote)




What a fruitcake! Head for the north pole, you might find what you're looking for there. You could be an elf.

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Mar 18, 2017 16:45:18   #
Fay Guht
 
Zombiefarmer23 wrote:
What a fruitcake! Head for the north pole, you might find what you're looking for there. You could be an elf.


So tell me....I invited comments on this.

The reason is this: automation of the trucking industry is going to elimate one million driver jobs in the next 5-10 years.

So where are they going to go?

Automation in fast food, pharmacies. ....where is everyone gonna go?

Civil unrest?

I'm just inviting comment here. And as nasty as you come off, I'd like your ideas.

Throw some out. But we as citizens need to head off the power block that us the 1%.

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Mar 18, 2017 16:53:55   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Fay Guht wrote:
So tell me....I invited comments on this.

The reason is this: automation of the trucking industry is going to elimate one million driver jobs in the next 5-10 years.

So where are they going to go?

Automation in fast food, pharmacies. ....where is everyone gonna go?

Civil unrest?

I'm just inviting comment here. And as nasty as you come off, I'd like your ideas.

Throw some out. But we as citizens need to head off the power block that us the 1%.
So tell me....I invited comments on this. br br ... (show quote)


I really don't see automation in the trucking industry happening that soon. Too many variables, and safety concerns. They haven't even perfected self driving cars yet.

Honestly....this is a fantasy that can never come true. It is impossible because human nature doesn't work that way. Nature doesn't work that way.

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Mar 18, 2017 16:56:55   #
Quakerwidow Loc: Chestertown, MD
 
archie bunker wrote:
I really don't see automation in the trucking industry happening that soon. Too many variables, and safety concerns. They haven't even perfected self driving cars yet.

Honestly....this is a fantasy that can never come true. It is impossible because human nature doesn't work that way. Nature doesn't work that way.


You mean "men with any vestige of power" don't work that way.

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Mar 18, 2017 17:16:58   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Quakerwidow wrote:
You mean "men with any vestige of power" don't work that way.


No, that's not what I mean. While true, it isn't what I meant.

I'm a westerner, so try and be patient.

A wild stallion will fight to keep his band of mares till he is too old. In between, younger stallions are constantly trying to run as many of his mares off in order to establish their own bands.
Many wild animal species do the same. I believe lions, and elephants are the same.

Mankind is much worse.

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Mar 18, 2017 17:32:32   #
peter11937 Loc: NYS
 
archie bunker wrote:
I really don't see automation in the trucking industry happening that soon. Too many variables, and safety concerns. They haven't even perfected self driving cars yet.

Honestly....this is a fantasy that can never come true. It is impossible because human nature doesn't work that way. Nature doesn't work that way.


Fifty years ago the Automat was going to be the future of food service.. now no one even remembers what it looked like. Instead fast food restaurants are the rage, We like human contact, and businesses that offer it will prosper in the long term.....

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Mar 18, 2017 17:56:08   #
valkyrierider Loc: "Land of Trump"
 
Fay Guht wrote:
Lets look at the idea of eliminating all money. Having it, working for it, hoarding it or using it asa measure of status.

Lets make EVERYTHING free.
Cars. Housing. Consumer goods. Fuel.
Everything.

No barter. Simply ask for anything and you can have it.

One stipulation: everyone, if able bodied, has to contribute 30 hours a week doing something. This could be the entry to participation.

Think about it. Since no effort attachs to anything, everything becomes a measure of nothing.

Want to drive a Jaguar? Sure. But since their free, where's the status.

Nothing means anything anymore.

In the world of things.

People will start to distinguish themselves through their efforts-building a boat or assembling something or whatever.

But everything will be free.

No crime. NO ELITES. No manipulation.

WHAT DO YOU VIEWERS THINK?
Lets look at the idea of eliminating all money. H... (show quote)


And no one grows food as it is supposed to be free so everyone dies. End of story cause no one would work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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