pafret Loc: Northeast

Cosmology: "Galaxy Distribution Appears To Negate 'Big Bang'"

Posted: 06 Mar 2017 06:28 PM PST

by Casey Kazan

"The prevailing Big Bang Theory predicts that all galaxies should be evenly distributed on the outer rims of the initial expanding explosive force. But in contradiction to the standard theory, ancient galaxies orbit the Milky Way. There are nearby galaxies over 13 billion years in age as well as and ancient fully formed galaxies located over 13.1 billion light years distant from the Milky Way. Galaxies move in the wrong directions and at different speeds, with galaxies colliding into one another from every conceivable direction.

Throughout the known, Hubble length universe, hundreds of millions of galaxies have clumped together, forming super clusters and a series of great walls of galaxies which are separated by vast voids of empty space. Several of these elongated super clusters have formed a series of walls, one after another, spaced from 500 million to 800 million light years apart, such that in one direction alone, 13 Great Walls have formed with the inner and outer walls separated by less than 7 billion light years. Some recent theories estimate that these galactic walls may have taken from 80 billion to 100 billion, to 150 billion years to form.

Millions of galaxies over one hundred million light years across, moving in the same direction, have penetrated the center of the local super cluster of galaxies located in the vicinity of the Centaurus and Hydra and constellations. Another anomaly is the Coma cluster at the center of the CfA2 Great Wall. It is one of the largest observed structures in the Universe, containing over 10,000 galaxies and extending more than 1.37 billion light years in length.

In their attempts to rationalize these glaring anomalies, the prevailing theory has posited "dark energy" to explain why a created universe did not spread out uniformly at the same speed and in the same "spoke-like" directions as predicted by theory. With the addition of as yet unproven dark energy or a "great attractor" the "Big Bang universe slows down, then suddenly speeds up, then slows down, then accelerates, with different regions all moving at different velocities and different directions."
- http://www.dailygalaxy.com/

Sources:
Springel, V. et al., (2006),
The large-scale structure of the Universe. Nature 440, 1137-1144; Cosmology.com
Axiomatic Astronomy site: http://marlbryastronomy.blogspot.com/

guitarman Loc: University Park, Florida

Physics is the only religion that gets most of it's funding from governments. See through the smoke, it's all about finding God.

Gener

These things are so iffy in so many ways. The big bang theory seems to only imply one bang. I don't think so. There are bangs going on throughout the universe on a recurring basis. Dark holes suck the energy back in. It is a 'self regulating' system. The idea that this happened by accident is ludicrous. It all follows a mathematical pattern so complex nobody understands it yet. That pattern in its complexity though, is conclusive of a form of intelligence behind it. The scientist higher up in the hierarchy have an agenda, to rid the universe of any concept of God. Howard Bloom thinks he has figured it all out, yet his book is worthless. Scientists are so arrogant. If they knew everything already, why don't they just put away their instruments and all go home. But we are supposed to believe everything they tell us.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Contradictory information doesn't typically mean we throw out a theory on the basis of the contradictory data. Most of the time we just realize that we simply don't know something we need to know, to put it simply.

I didn't know that Dark Energy was being postulated to explain irregular galaxy distribution.

pafret Loc: Northeast

As is usual, true scientists never cease questioning what they "know" to be true. There are anomalies not consistent with one bang, who knows what the next accepted "truth" will be? None so far can even come close to a scientific explanation, of how nothing creates something.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

We know nothing about it, to be sure. Pun intended. But I would have an equally hard time addressing that with the notion of a God, not that I am not a believer of sorts.

There is an interesting story about Einstein and Dark Energy. It has to do with his early denial of an expanding universe. He denied it so vehemently that he invented the Cosmologic Constant to insert into his equations which countered the expansion predicted within the equations. But when Hubble demonstrated the expanding universe, Einstein declared the cosmologic constant to be his greatest blunder. Enter the theory of Dark Energy. Turns out that the predicted value of Dark Energy was essentially the same as the Cosmologic Constant. Thus, in a sort of inverse fashion, Einstein discovered Dark Energy even before it was postulated.

Gener

There is a real anomaly with the idea of a universe. The problem is there is a paradox that is unsolvable unless you take into account that everything is an illusion created by the mind. If you take a straight line out to the farthest reaches imaginable, and I believe the Hubble telescope recorded 100 billion light years away, the problem is, the universe cannot end there. In fact, if you look at it logically, the universe cannot end period. There is no possibility of an end. But that creates a problem because it is also true that the universe cannot go on forever. That is impossible as well. There really is no resolution to this unless the universe is an illusion. That is all there is to it.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

I've read articles by authors who think the math suggests our universe is essentially a holographic image. I'd have to reread the articles to be able to articulate their idea.

For those of his who enjoyed the Matrix, it was not unimaginable.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Of course paradoxes are built in contradictions of themselves. Also of course, an image is most capable of paradoxical behavior. The nature of the universe will most certainly be so bizarre and strange that we will all say, of course, how could it have been otherwise.

Gener

I liked the Matrix. I also liked Inception. They are good movies, but as far as "Inception" goes, there is a great book about it that brings up a lot of questions that it may take several times to watch the movie to pick up on.

Gener

Another thing, I was talking on another thread about "Torsion theory," which people looked up and according to Wikipedia, it is pseudo science. However, I don't think so. I need to study it more myself, but I think it is a great subject.

pafret Loc: Northeast

I did some reading oin this topic a while ago. It appeared that those Russians cleverly adhered to traditional physics just close enough to seem plausible while faking every aspect of proof. Reminded me about the story of the Emperors new clothes. Further efforts in this field delved deeply into sacred geometry and theories of matter being torsional light emanations. That seems to have come directly from Gnostic Dualism's assertion that "All the things that are, are lights". Any extensive immersion in Torsion theory always seems to end in mysticism.

Gener

That wouldn't surprise me. I need to really study it. Of course, if it does end in mysticism, that would explain why the establishment is so ready to call it pseudo science. I do know there is a related physics called "Hyperdimensional" physics proposed by Richard Hoagland, and the scientific community mocks him as well. Hyperdimensional physics is related to some Russian research as well. Interesting that mystical physics would come out of Russia when at least while it was communist the official belief was atheism.

As far as Gnosticism, I tend to lean that way myself. However, there are so many variations of gnosticism and esoteric Christianity, that doesn't explain much. (There are multiple variations on fundamentalist Christianity as well.) Gnostic Christianity however, has much more affinity with other religions than Fundamentalist does. It is all very interesting.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Apparently so. I just looked into it. When stuff like this becomes the basis for CAM cures, like homeopathy or additionally, mind reading and ESP, welp, you can bet it's going to get a bit strange.