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Feb 25, 2017 09:25:59   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
There is a difference between an autocratic Government and a totalitarian Government, sometimes that line is blurred, but knowing the proper definitions can help one differentiate between them. So, to help folks make that call, here are the definitions:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totalitarianism

In almost every known case of these types of "governance", the justification presented is "for the good of the people". Isn't it amazing how often that rationale is used to justify completely selfish actions? A Government "of the people, by the people and for the people", should never be subjected to partisan censorship, ideological restrictions, or monetary blackmail, yet we've seen these types of action for decades if not centuries. The Federal Government, no matter it's partisan makeup, is responsible to ALL Americans, not just those of the ruling party or those that voted for the "winners", but we have let that slide over the years, until what we see now doesn't even pretend to acknowledge such a concept.

It matters not a wit by how large a margin someone wins whatever office he or she has, because the responsibilities are the same. One could win by a single vote - and STILL be responsible to those that didn't vote for them. A "representative Government" means exactly that, with the caveat that those representatives must represent ALL of their constituents, not just those of their own party or those that voted for them, yet we have accepted the opposite as the norm. We keep hearing the words "unconstitutional" and "Constitutional authority" and such, but no one considers the ENTIRE Constitution when spouting such things, nor do those hanging on every word. As in the case of the Bible, reading previous or following passages/paragraphs, often undermines the concept that is being "sold" to the public. It is the responsibility of every citizen to know what their Constitution says - and doesn't say - and insist that their representatives adhere to it.

Any American Government, regardless of who or what party holds what office in it, must be responsible to all citizens, again, regardless of what party they do or do not belong to. It is unconstitutional, on it's face, to try and mold the entire country along partisan or ideological lines, yet we accept this as normal and if we ourselves are partisans - demand it. What happens to the voices of those from the "losing" party, and more importantly, those that are members of NO party? Their voices are ignored, and/or attempts made to silence them, calling them "activist's" and such. The Government of the United States of America belongs to each and every citizen equally, from whom it derives it's power and authority, that is indeed what the Constitution says. That document does NOT say that the Government belongs to whatever party wins a majority in the Congress and/or the Presidency. The Constitution does NOT authorize whatever partisan platform or ideological principles of the "winner", to be enforced by Federal/State fiat - unless everyone agrees.

Cooperation and compromise are not optional political tools, they are a Constitutional MANDATE, therefor the law of the land. That is how a representative government ensures that they are representing ALL the citizens, including those that belong to neither major party. Neither democrats nor republicans even pay lip service to this mandate anymore, because we've gotten used to being ignored and TOLD what we will or will not believe, and what we will or will not do. Voting is a right - and - a responsibility. We vote for a person, we should not be voting for a party/ideology, or we are undermining our own Constitution and the rights it grants us.

We are rapidly approaching a totalitarian regime, the seeds of which were planted in 1864, when the republican party and the democratic party agreed to limit all political participation to their memberships alone. Don't believe me? That's fine, but if you look, even casually, you'll discover that such a thing is coming sooner than you think - it's here already.

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Feb 25, 2017 09:51:08   #
robmull Loc: florida
 
lpnmajor wrote:
There is a difference between an autocratic Government and a totalitarian Government, sometimes that line is blurred, but knowing the proper definitions can help one differentiate between them. So, to help folks make that call, here are the definitions:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totalitarianism

In almost every known case of these types of "governance", the justification presented is "for the good of the people". Isn't it amazing how often that rationale is used to justify completely selfish actions? A Government "of the people, by the people and for the people", should never be subjected to partisan censorship, ideological restrictions, or monetary blackmail, yet we've seen these types of action for decades if not centuries. The Federal Government, no matter it's partisan makeup, is responsible to ALL Americans, not just those of the ruling party or those that voted for the "winners", but we have let that slide over the years, until what we see now doesn't even pretend to acknowledge such a concept.

It matters not a wit by how large a margin someone wins whatever office he or she has, because the responsibilities are the same. One could win by a single vote - and STILL be responsible to those that didn't vote for them. A "representative Government" means exactly that, with the caveat that those representatives must represent ALL of their constituents, not just those of their own party or those that voted for them, yet we have accepted the opposite as the norm. We keep hearing the words "unconstitutional" and "Constitutional authority" and such, but no one considers the ENTIRE Constitution when spouting such things, nor do those hanging on every word. As in the case of the Bible, reading previous or following passages/paragraphs, often undermines the concept that is being "sold" to the public. It is the responsibility of every citizen to know what their Constitution says - and doesn't say - and insist that their representatives adhere to it.

Any American Government, regardless of who or what party holds what office in it, must be responsible to all citizens, again, regardless of what party they do or do not belong to. It is unconstitutional, on it's face, to try and mold the entire country along partisan or ideological lines, yet we accept this as normal and if we ourselves are partisans - demand it. What happens to the voices of those from the "losing" party, and more importantly, those that are members of NO party? Their voices are ignored, and/or attempts made to silence them, calling them "activist's" and such. The Government of the United States of America belongs to each and every citizen equally, from whom it derives it's power and authority, that is indeed what the Constitution says. That document does NOT say that the Government belongs to whatever party wins a majority in the Congress and/or the Presidency. The Constitution does NOT authorize whatever partisan platform or ideological principles of the "winner", to be enforced by Federal/State fiat - unless everyone agrees.

Cooperation and compromise are not optional political tools, they are a Constitutional MANDATE, therefor the law of the land. That is how a representative government ensures that they are representing ALL the citizens, including those that belong to neither major party. Neither democrats nor republicans even pay lip service to this mandate anymore, because we've gotten used to being ignored and TOLD what we will or will not believe, and what we will or will not do. Voting is a right - and - a responsibility. We vote for a person, we should not be voting for a party/ideology, or we are undermining our own Constitution and the rights it grants us.

We are rapidly approaching a totalitarian regime, the seeds of which were planted in 1864, when the republican party and the democratic party agreed to limit all political participation to their memberships alone. Don't believe me? That's fine, but if you look, even casually, you'll discover that such a thing is coming sooner than you think - it's here already.
There is a difference between an autocratic Govern... (show quote)







"WE" are now getting-rid-of the radical (D)eceptive Marx/Alinsky (D) interlopers, minor, to get our "Shining Light on the Hill," back off the radical "fundamental transformation" track (D), and onto the conservative, patriotic, constitutionalist, American, 21st century Western free-market "TRUMP TRAIN" (R)!!! IN LITERAL DROVES. "WE" are the biggest conservative "movement" in WORLD history, and President Trump (R), {like "Brexit"}, is just like the weather; he could give a crap-less about what the obnoxious, rioting, looting, vandalizing "PIG" killing (D)etractors have to say about his agenda. And the radical "liberalism," swamp, is now in a cold, cold sweat!!! Hummmmmmmmmm. What's that "crushing" noise I keep hearing??? GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PRESIDENT "45" DONALD J. {BORN AGAIN} TRUMP (R)!!!

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Feb 25, 2017 09:58:50   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
robmull wrote:
"WE" are now getting-rid-of the radical (D)eceptive Marx/Alinsky (D) interlopers, minor, to get our "Shining Light on the Hill," back off the radical "fundamental transformation" track, and onto the conservative, patriotic, constitutionalist, American, 21st century Western free-market "TRUMP TRAIN (R)!!!" IN DROVES. "WE" are the biggest conservative "movement" in WORLD history, and President Trump (R), is just like the weather; he could give a crap-less about what the obnoxious, rioting, "PIG" killing (D)etractors have to say about his agenda. Hummmmmmmmmm. What's that "crushing" noise I keep hearing??? GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PRESIDENT "45" DONALD J. {BORN AGAIN} TRUMP (R)!!!
"WE" are now getting-rid-of the radical ... (show quote)


You didn't read the definitions did you. You realize that you're helping those who believe Trump supporters are morons and illiterate, don't you? MMMM, I guess not. Too bad! Sorry loser! Learn to goose step or you'll be left behind.

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Feb 25, 2017 10:05:00   #
missinglink Loc: Tralfamadore
 
robmull wrote:
"WE" are now getting-rid-of the radical (D)eceptive Marx/Alinsky (D) interlopers, minor, to get our "Shining Light on the Hill," back off the radical "fundamental transformation" track, and onto the "TRUMP TRAIN (R)!!!" IN DROVES. What's that "crushing" noise I keep hearing??? GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PRESIDENT "45" DONALD J. {BORN AGAIN} TRUMP (R)!!!


I took caster oil a few times as a child . The last eight years I had that same feeling of instant nausea
several times under Obama constantly cramming vile crap down everyone's throats .This bobble
headed poster swallowed all that crap without so much as a belch. The "Audacity of change" my
ass . More like the " Audacity of Totalitarian Rule " and this nimrod poster swallowed it hook line
and sinker. He , she or it is FUBAR

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Feb 25, 2017 10:08:46   #
robmull Loc: florida
 
lpnmajor wrote:
You didn't read the definitions did you. You realize that you're helping those who believe Trump supporters are morons and illiterate, don't you? MMMM, I guess not. Too bad! Sorry loser! Learn to goose step or you'll be left behind.







Geeeee, minor, did you hear THAT in the NYT??? And if YOU really want "goose-steps," check out fascist/Nazi "Georgi" Soros (D), who is financing your riots, arsons, lootings, "PIG" killings, vandalizations, protests and violent, "Mussolini"-type (D)emonstrations. Hummmmmm, minor, why aren't you out (D)oing something productive for your (D) Party like killing a few "PIGS???" Hummmmmmmm again. What IS that "crushing" noise I keep hearing??? GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PRESIDENT "45" DONALD J. {BORN AGAIN} TRUMP (R)!!!

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Feb 25, 2017 10:08:52   #
Rivers
 
lpnmajor wrote:
You didn't read the definitions did you. You realize that you're helping those who believe Trump supporters are morons and illiterate, don't you? MMMM, I guess not. Too bad! Sorry loser! Learn to goose step or you'll be left behind.


Get over it phony non-partisan...you lost.

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Feb 25, 2017 10:25:17   #
sandy628
 
Tell me what does theconstirution say about riots , burning our flag and etc from the losing libraels ? this has been the worst out come of an election , in my life time, trump won, but the losers cant handle it, and they create riots , etc, I think our president is doing a fantastic job , considering what he sup against ,Obama left America , in dire straights . ran the national debt up to 20 trillion dollars , more than all the rest of the presidents put together and now Obama has formed a shadow government to undermine , president trump, Obama is a traitor and he should be stopped , now. I support my president 100 % .

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Feb 25, 2017 10:26:07   #
robmull Loc: florida
 
Rivers wrote:
Get over it phony non-partisan...you lost.








"Pigs/'minor' and chess," Rivers. I just like to point-out radical liberal progressive hypocrisy from time-to-time so the conservative audience on OPP, {such as yourself}, can possibly keep the flood-gate of tears flowing for all those who haven't a clue yet as to why they LOST in a LANDSLIDE, EARTHQUAKE POTUS ELECTION 2016, and are now quadrupling-(D)own on what got their idiot radical commie "red-(D)iaper" asses electively (D)ecapitated and unceremoniously booted-out in the-first-place. (D)amn, Pelosi??? "Chuckie?" "Fauxahantas?" Ellison? Kaine? And it just seems to be getting better for President Trump (R), and Western free-market America, EVERY DAY!!! What IS that "crushing" noise I keep hearing??? GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PRESIDENT "45" DONALD J. {BORN AGAIN} TRUMP (R)!!! And thanks again, Melania Trump, for that beautiful (R)ecital of "OUR LORD'S PRAYER," at one of President Trump's (R), stupendous ALL AMERICAN rally's!!! SPECTACULAR!!!

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Feb 25, 2017 10:29:18   #
missinglink Loc: Tralfamadore
 
lpnmajor wrote:
You didn't read the definitions did you. You realize that you're helping those who believe Trump supporters are morons and illiterate, don't you? MMMM, I guess not. Too bad! Sorry loser! Learn to goose step or you'll be left behind.


You are living in some kind of alternate reality to think this one sentence of your rant makes anything close to real sense. "Any American Government, regardless of who or what party holds what office in it, must be responsible to all citizens, again, regardless of what party they do or do not belong to. "

What crap. Thru out history no such form of government has existed nor will it ever exist .You will never find the formula that will appease every individual. If you are searching for some form of total personal peace then leave government to the adults .

Try yoga or as Loki has suggested , take up Hobbit Dancing .

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Feb 25, 2017 10:30:31   #
Sons of Liberty Loc: look behind you!
 
robmull wrote:
"WE" are now getting-rid-of the radical (D)eceptive Marx/Alinsky (D) interlopers, minor, to get our "Shining Light on the Hill," back off the radical "fundamental transformation" track (D), and onto the conservative, patriotic, constitutionalist, American, 21st century Western free-market "TRUMP TRAIN" (R)!!! IN LITERAL DROVES. "WE" are the biggest conservative "movement" in WORLD history, and President Trump (R), {like "Brexit"}, is just like the weather; he could give a crap-less about what the obnoxious, rioting, looting, vandalizing "PIG" killing (D)etractors have to say about his agenda. And the radical "liberalism," swamp, is now in a cold, cold sweat!!! Hummmmmmmmmm. What's that "crushing" noise I keep hearing??? GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PRESIDENT "45" DONALD J. {BORN AGAIN} TRUMP (R)!!!
"WE" are now getting-rid-of the radical ... (show quote)


President Trump will lead us out of the pits of hell that the progressive liberals so willfully threw us in.



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Feb 25, 2017 10:34:36   #
missinglink Loc: Tralfamadore
 
Sons of Liberty wrote:
President Trump will lead us out of the pits of hell that the progressive liberals so willfully threw us in.


Hey , like the mini gun !!

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Feb 25, 2017 10:35:14   #
robmull Loc: florida
 
Sons of Liberty wrote:
President Trump will lead us out of the pits of hell that the progressive liberals so willfully threw us in.







YOU GOT IT, Son. President Trump (R), is like the weather; he could give a crap-less what his (D)etractors say or (D)o to stop the agenda. What's that "crushing" noise I keep hearing??? GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PRESIDENT "45" DONALD J. {BORN AGAIN} TRUMP (R)!!!!

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Feb 25, 2017 10:44:26   #
robmull Loc: florida
 
missinglink wrote:
You are living in some kind of alternate reality to think this one sentence of your rant makes anything close to real sense. "Any American Government, regardless of who or what party holds what office in it, must be responsible to all citizens, again, regardless of what party they do or do not belong to. "

What crap. Thru out history no such form of government has existed nor will it ever exist .You will never find the formula that will appease every individual. If you are searching for some form of total personal peace then leave government to the adults .

Try yoga or as Loki has suggested , take up Hobbit Dancing .
You are living in some kind of alternate reality t... (show quote)







President Trump (R), ml, is a good (R)eminder to patriotic, constitutionalist, 21st century Western free-market America, of unselfish, purely fearless leaders like General George Washington. "THE DONALD," could well-have retired to his own island, anyplace in the world, anytime, (R)ather than get bogged-(D)own in the slime of (D)eceptive secular liberal progressive Marx/Alinsky POTUS (D) politics. "What more must I do for my country," {GW}, is quite-the-same attitude President Trump (R) is now displaying to "crush" the obnoxious and now violent attempt to a completely (D)iabolical and unwanted "fundamental transform" of our "Shining Light on the Hill, From Sea to Shining Sea!!!" What IS that "crushing" noise I keep hearing??? GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PRESIDENT "45" DONALD J. {BORN AGAIN} TRUMP (R)!!!

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Feb 25, 2017 10:52:41   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Sons of Liberty wrote:
President Trump will lead us out of the pits of hell that the progressive liberals so willfully threw us in.


Yes he will and is!!! Love the pic and yes, added to my library files...
As for the past isn't it good it is now the past....
C'est la vie, mon amour!!

We are up and running !!

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Feb 25, 2017 10:54:39   #
Sons of Liberty Loc: look behind you!
 
lindajoy wrote:
Yes he will and is!!! Love the pic and yes, added to my library files...
As for the past isn't it good it is now the past....
C'est la vie, mon amour!!

We are up and running !!


The Trump Train is running at WOT!!!

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