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Feb 19, 2017 16:01:37   #
Dr.Dross
 
Make the Press the enemy.



America is only exceptional because of freedom of the Press. A free Press is the bedrock and backbone of any Republic or Democracy. All the failed policies and errors of judgment and bad laws in our history only changed because this country has a free Press. It will say terrible things about how our government is run and about the people in charge, and be free to do so where there is just cause. To erode trust in a free Press is to undermine a Republic or Democracy. All our liberties in a Republic or Democracy are threatened when a free Press is threatened. For a president of the United States to suggest the Free Press is an "enemy of the people" is sedition. To make everything that may disagree with or contradict or cast doubt on what those in power say and do as "fake news" cripples a Republic or Democracy.

Mike Wallace of Fox News blistered Reince Priebus on this dangerous and totally un-American tendecy. Reince, "Here's the problem," Wallace said. I don't have any problem with you complaining about an individual story. We sometimes get it wrong, you guys sometimes get it wrong. I don't have any problem with you complaining about bias," Wallace said.

"But the president went a lot further than that. He said that the 'fake media,' not certain stories, the 'fake media,' are an enemy to the country. We don't have a state-run media in this country. That's what they have in dictatorships," Wallace continued.

"You don't get to tell us what to do, Reince. You don't get to tell us what to do any more than Barack Obama did. Barack Obama whined about Fox News all the time, but I've got to say, he never said we were an enemy of the people," Wallace replied.

After Priebus said he was "surprised" Wallace would forget "all the shots" that Obama took at Fox News, the anchor interjected.

"He took the shots, and we didn't like them, and frankly, we don't like this either. But he never went as far as President Trump has. And that's what's concerning. Because it seems like he crosses a line when he says that we're the enemy of the people," Wallace said.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/dont-tell-us-fox-news-161200401.html

Senator McCain (who Trump questioned his patriotism): “That’s how dictators get started,” Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., said in an interview that aired on NBC’s “Meet the Press” on Sunday. “They get started by suppressing a free press. In other words, a consolidation of power. When you look at history, the first thing that dictators do is shut down the press.”

I don't think there is one person on the Right here that does not dismiss Mainstream Media. This disregard in favor of alt-right blogs for "truth" can only end in the end of our Republic. If you truly are a patriot, act like it. Be concerned for America first and not partisan ideology. Look deeply, question, doubt, search, be vigilant for our freedom.

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Feb 19, 2017 16:16:25   #
kankune Loc: Iowa
 
Dr.Dross wrote:
Make the Press the enemy.



America is only exceptional because of freedom of the Press. A free Press is the bedrock and backbone of any Republic or Democracy. All the failed policies and errors of judgment and bad laws in our history only changed because this country has a free Press. It will say terrible things about how our government is run and about the people in charge, and be free to do so where there is just cause. To erode trust in a free Press is to undermine a Republic or Democracy. All our liberties in a Republic or Democracy are threatened when a free Press is threatened. For a president of the United States to suggest the Free Press is an "enemy of the people" is sedition. To make everything that may disagree with or contradict or cast doubt on what those in power say and do as "fake news" cripples a Republic or Democracy.

Mike Wallace of Fox News blistered Reince Priebus on this dangerous and totally un-American tendecy. Reince, "Here's the problem," Wallace said. I don't have any problem with you complaining about an individual story. We sometimes get it wrong, you guys sometimes get it wrong. I don't have any problem with you complaining about bias," Wallace said.

"But the president went a lot further than that. He said that the 'fake media,' not certain stories, the 'fake media,' are an enemy to the country. We don't have a state-run media in this country. That's what they have in dictatorships," Wallace continued.

"You don't get to tell us what to do, Reince. You don't get to tell us what to do any more than Barack Obama did. Barack Obama whined about Fox News all the time, but I've got to say, he never said we were an enemy of the people," Wallace replied.

After Priebus said he was "surprised" Wallace would forget "all the shots" that Obama took at Fox News, the anchor interjected.

"He took the shots, and we didn't like them, and frankly, we don't like this either. But he never went as far as President Trump has. And that's what's concerning. Because it seems like he crosses a line when he says that we're the enemy of the people," Wallace said.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/dont-tell-us-fox-news-161200401.html

Senator McCain (who Trump questioned his patriotism): “That’s how dictators get started,” Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., said in an interview that aired on NBC’s “Meet the Press” on Sunday. “They get started by suppressing a free press. In other words, a consolidation of power. When you look at history, the first thing that dictators do is shut down the press.”

I don't think there is one person on the Right here that does not dismiss Mainstream Media. This disregard in favor of alt-right blogs for "truth" can only end in the end of our Republic. If you truly are a patriot, act like. Be concerned for America first and not partisan ideology. Look deeply, question, doubt, search, be vigilant for our freedom.
Make the Press the enemy. br br br br America ... (show quote)


Traitor Mcain just went to another country and made America seem weak. The prick!!! He's propaganda and so is most of the press. Do some research and find out who owns most of those TV stations. Check out Time Warner....even you'll be surprised.

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Feb 19, 2017 16:24:11   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
Dr.Dross wrote:
Make the Press the enemy.



America is only exceptional because of freedom of the Press. A free Press is the bedrock and backbone of any Republic or Democracy. All the failed policies and errors of judgment and bad laws in our history only changed because this country has a free Press. It will say terrible things about how our government is run and about the people in charge, and be free to do so where there is just cause. To erode trust in a free Press is to undermine a Republic or Democracy. All our liberties in a Republic or Democracy are threatened when a free Press is threatened. For a president of the United States to suggest the Free Press is an "enemy of the people" is sedition. To make everything that may disagree with or contradict or cast doubt on what those in power say and do as "fake news" cripples a Republic or Democracy.

Mike Wallace of Fox News blistered Reince Priebus on this dangerous and totally un-American tendecy. Reince, "Here's the problem," Wallace said. I don't have any problem with you complaining about an individual story. We sometimes get it wrong, you guys sometimes get it wrong. I don't have any problem with you complaining about bias," Wallace said.

"But the president went a lot further than that. He said that the 'fake media,' not certain stories, the 'fake media,' are an enemy to the country. We don't have a state-run media in this country. That's what they have in dictatorships," Wallace continued.

"You don't get to tell us what to do, Reince. You don't get to tell us what to do any more than Barack Obama did. Barack Obama whined about Fox News all the time, but I've got to say, he never said we were an enemy of the people," Wallace replied.

After Priebus said he was "surprised" Wallace would forget "all the shots" that Obama took at Fox News, the anchor interjected.

"He took the shots, and we didn't like them, and frankly, we don't like this either. But he never went as far as President Trump has. And that's what's concerning. Because it seems like he crosses a line when he says that we're the enemy of the people," Wallace said.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/dont-tell-us-fox-news-161200401.html

Senator McCain (who Trump questioned his patriotism): “That’s how dictators get started,” Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., said in an interview that aired on NBC’s “Meet the Press” on Sunday. “They get started by suppressing a free press. In other words, a consolidation of power. When you look at history, the first thing that dictators do is shut down the press.”
Make the Press the enemy. br br br br America ... (show quote)


If you watched any of the news shows today, they blamed it all on Obama. To hear them tell it, they desperately tried to work with Obama, offering him compromise after compromise - but were rebuffed. Now, they are totally mystified as to why democrats are being so intransigent. Obama caused the severe divide in the country and Clinton is responsible for the unrest and resistance to Trump. Strangely enough, Republicans and Trumps insanity have played no part at all. Unless I missed it, the Pope did not make the GOP or Trump saints.

Although only 1/5 of the population voted for Trump and not even all of those are Trumpites, Trumps agenda is the will of the people, according to Trump and the GOP. The remaining 4/5 of the people are morons, and their views don't count. Those that voted in the general election chose Clinton by a nearly 4 million majority, but since the electoral college overruled their choice ( due to gerrymandering by GOP legislatures, BTW ) their views and opinions are moot. Simply put, the majority of Americans did NOT choose Trump, they did NOT choose his agenda and they did NOT choose the agenda of the GOP elites. Knowing this and knowing the majority are determined to be heard, requires a maximum effort to - silence them. The press is the only voice the majority has left.

Dictators have a psychotic need to be #1 in all things, and will ruthlessly squash any dissent or opposition. Trumps rally was not a re-election campaign - he's trying to raise an army loyal to him and him alone.

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Feb 19, 2017 16:43:35   #
robmull Loc: florida
 
Dr.Dross wrote:
Make the Press the enemy.



America is only exceptional because of freedom of the Press. A free Press is the bedrock and backbone of any Republic or Democracy. All the failed policies and errors of judgment and bad laws in our history only changed because this country has a free Press. It will say terrible things about how our government is run and about the people in charge, and be free to do so where there is just cause. To erode trust in a free Press is to undermine a Republic or Democracy. All our liberties in a Republic or Democracy are threatened when a free Press is threatened. For a president of the United States to suggest the Free Press is an "enemy of the people" is sedition. To make everything that may disagree with or contradict or cast doubt on what those in power say and do as "fake news" cripples a Republic or Democracy.

Mike Wallace of Fox News blistered Reince Priebus on this dangerous and totally un-American tendecy. Reince, "Here's the problem," Wallace said. I don't have any problem with you complaining about an individual story. We sometimes get it wrong, you guys sometimes get it wrong. I don't have any problem with you complaining about bias," Wallace said.

"But the president went a lot further than that. He said that the 'fake media,' not certain stories, the 'fake media,' are an enemy to the country. We don't have a state-run media in this country. That's what they have in dictatorships," Wallace continued.

"You don't get to tell us what to do, Reince. You don't get to tell us what to do any more than Barack Obama did. Barack Obama whined about Fox News all the time, but I've got to say, he never said we were an enemy of the people," Wallace replied.

After Priebus said he was "surprised" Wallace would forget "all the shots" that Obama took at Fox News, the anchor interjected.

"He took the shots, and we didn't like them, and frankly, we don't like this either. But he never went as far as President Trump has. And that's what's concerning. Because it seems like he crosses a line when he says that we're the enemy of the people," Wallace said.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/dont-tell-us-fox-news-161200401.html

Senator McCain (who Trump questioned his patriotism): “That’s how dictators get started,” Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., said in an interview that aired on NBC’s “Meet the Press” on Sunday. “They get started by suppressing a free press. In other words, a consolidation of power. When you look at history, the first thing that dictators do is shut down the press.”

I don't think there is one person on the Right here that does not dismiss Mainstream Media. This disregard in favor of alt-right blogs for "truth" can only end in the end of our Republic. If you truly are a patriot, act like it. Be concerned for America first and not partisan ideology. Look deeply, question, doubt, search, be vigilant for our freedom.
Make the Press the enemy. br br br br America ... (show quote)






Actually, Dr. Gross, it would be MUCH better to create a (D)ictatorship {in America}, if we slid a radical secular liberal progressive Alinskyite "stranger" through a few years in the Senate, (D)issed and tried to (D)estroy and (D)isable ANYTHIG associated with the "enemy, gun and Bible-clinging American patriots," {BHO}, got America so (D)istraught with the Majority Congress (2006) "$0.00 (D)own" Alinsky "Rules..." pre-planned housing and economic (D)isruption and (D)eseparate crisis, mortgage failure and bankruptcies (D)ue to erupt just before the 2008 POTUS election to focus America's attention on the crisis rather than the established, age-old POTUS criteria and requirement for ONLY a "Natural Born American citizen," control ALL THREE Branches of government and activate a "nuclear option," to make SURE the current Minority (R), in Congress would maintain that status, forever; with absolutely NO power, {ever again}, of ANY bilateral Congressional oversight over ANYTHING. Hummmmmmmmmm. What could POSSIBLY go wrong??? Of course it never hurt to have the complicit "lap-(D)og, state-run, alphabet channel" MSM (D), and THEIR "lap-(D)og," "Hollyweird"(D), overlooking all associations to everything and everybody from the "Choom Gang," to Frank Marshall Davis, to Indonesian Muslim school and Indonesian citizenship, grandfather Barack Hussein being incarcerated by GB as a communist activist trying to convert Indonesia from a socialistic colony of GB to a full-blown communist nation, Rev. J. Wright {of the Trinity black Marxist church in Chicago}, to the shady Tony Resco land and property (D)eals in up-scale Chicago, to "Barry's" mentor, neighbor, comrade, associate, business partner, co-professor, unrepentant (D)omestic terrorist, bomber, American Flag stomping, anti-American, anti-Semitic "PIG" killer X3, "red-(D)iaper baby," Bill Ayers. Gee, how do you suppose they could miss all that - but STILL, what could POSSIBLY go wrong??? GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PRESIDENT "45" DONALD J. {BORN AGAIN} TRUMP (R)!!!

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Feb 19, 2017 16:58:21   #
Dr.Dross
 
kankune wrote:
Traitor Mcain just went to another country and made America seem weak. The prick!!! He's propaganda and so is most of the press. Do some research and find out who owns most of those TV stations. Check out Time Warner....even you'll be surprised.


It can be seen that way, I agree. But speaking freely as he did, in my opinion, makes us seem strong. And please do not go down the road of making the Media a Soros propaganda tool, completely at his command. Undermining the greatest freedom we have, that of a free press, undermines the foundations of this country. Seriously!

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Feb 19, 2017 16:59:36   #
Dr.Dross
 
robmull wrote:
Actually, Dr. Gross, it would be MUCH better to create a (D)ictatorship {in America}, if we slid a radical secular liberal progressive Alinskyite "stranger" through a few years in the Senate, (D)issed and tried to (D)estroy and (D)isable ANYTHIG associated with the "enemy, gun and Bible-clinging American patriots," {BHO}, got America so (D)istraught with the Majority Congress (2006) "$0.00 (D)own" Alinsky "Rules..." pre-planned housing and economic (D)isruption and (D)eseparate crisis, mortgage failure and bankruptcies (D)ue to erupt just before the 2008 POTUS election to focus America's attention on the crisis rather than the established, age-old POTUS criteria for ONLY a "Natural Born American citizen," control ALL THREE Branches of government and activate a "nuclear option," to make SURE the current Minority (R), in Congress would maintain that status, forever; with absolutely NO power, {ever again}, of ANY bilateral Congressional oversight over ANYTHING. Hummmmmmmmmm. What could POSSIBLY go wrong??? Of course it never hurt to have the complicit "lap-(D)og, state-run, alphabet channel" MSM (D), and THEIR "lap-(D)og," "Hollyweird"(D), overlooking all associations to everything and everybody from the "Choom Gang," to Frank Marshall Davis, to Rev J. Wright {of the Trinity black Marxist church in Chicago}, to the Tony Resco land and property (D)eals, to "Barry's" mentor, neighbor, comrade, associate, business partner, co-professor, unrepentant (D)omestic terrorist, bomber, American Flag stomping, anti-American, anti-Semitic "PIG" killer X3, "red-(D)iaper baby," Bill Ayers.
Actually, Dr. Gross, it would be MUCH better to cr... (show quote)


Too funny.

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Feb 19, 2017 17:04:41   #
kankune Loc: Iowa
 
Dr.Dross wrote:
It can be seen that way, I agree. But speaking freely as he did, in my opinion, makes us seem strong. And please do not go down the road of making the Media a Soros propaganda tool, completely at his command. Undermining the greatest freedom we have, that of a free press, undermines the foundations of this country. Seriously!


Yes...a free HONEST press. No one's perfect and mistakes happen, but these twits are blatant over and over again liers..You're wrong about McCain. He put us in a position of weakness.

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Feb 19, 2017 17:07:00   #
robmull Loc: florida
 
Dr.Dross wrote:
Too funny.







You "becha'," comrade Dr. Gross. You "becha'" {Sarah Palin (R)}. I had no idea you already knew all that stuff and you think it's "funny." Strange creature you are. (D)amn shame. Hummmmmmmmmm. What IS that "crushing" noise I keep hearing??? GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PRESIDENT "45" DONALD J. {BORN AGAIN} TRUMP(R)!!!

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Feb 19, 2017 17:23:00   #
reconreb Loc: America / Inglis Fla.
 
Dr.Dross wrote:
Make the Press the enemy.



America is only exceptional because of freedom of the Press. A free Press is the bedrock and backbone of any Republic or Democracy. All the failed policies and errors of judgment and bad laws in our history only changed because this country has a free Press. It will say terrible things about how our government is run and about the people in charge, and be free to do so where there is just cause. To erode trust in a free Press is to undermine a Republic or Democracy. All our liberties in a Republic or Democracy are threatened when a free Press is threatened. For a president of the United States to suggest the Free Press is an "enemy of the people" is sedition. To make everything that may disagree with or contradict or cast doubt on what those in power say and do as "fake news" cripples a Republic or Democracy.

Mike Wallace of Fox News blistered Reince Priebus on this dangerous and totally un-American tendecy. Reince, "Here's the problem," Wallace said. I don't have any problem with you complaining about an individual story. We sometimes get it wrong, you guys sometimes get it wrong. I don't have any problem with you complaining about bias," Wallace said.

"But the president went a lot further than that. He said that the 'fake media,' not certain stories, the 'fake media,' are an enemy to the country. We don't have a state-run media in this country. That's what they have in dictatorships," Wallace continued.

"You don't get to tell us what to do, Reince. You don't get to tell us what to do any more than Barack Obama did. Barack Obama whined about Fox News all the time, but I've got to say, he never said we were an enemy of the people," Wallace replied.

After Priebus said he was "surprised" Wallace would forget "all the shots" that Obama took at Fox News, the anchor interjected.

"He took the shots, and we didn't like them, and frankly, we don't like this either. But he never went as far as President Trump has. And that's what's concerning. Because it seems like he crosses a line when he says that we're the enemy of the people," Wallace said.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/dont-tell-us-fox-news-161200401.html

Senator McCain (who Trump questioned his patriotism): “That’s how dictators get started,” Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., said in an interview that aired on NBC’s “Meet the Press” on Sunday. “They get started by suppressing a free press. In other words, a consolidation of power. When you look at history, the first thing that dictators do is shut down the press.”

I don't think there is one person on the Right here that does not dismiss Mainstream Media. This disregard in favor of alt-right blogs for "truth" can only end in the end of our Republic. If you truly are a patriot, act like it. Be concerned for America first and not partisan ideology. freedom.
Make the Press the enemy. br br br br America ... (show quote)


" Look deeply, question, doubt, search, be vigilant for our Freedom " Thank you ,, we did and President Trump is our choice .. Now thats quite a stretch but not unexpected . Trump giving the media a lashing is not suppression , did he order any news media shut down , banned , censured ... NO.... Exaggeration is a strong point for you and its no surprise you jump every chance you get .. It is O.K. though I expect it and find it amusing that you take your Q's from the MSM and are no more credible than they are ,, zippo , zilch , nadda , no respect !!! thank you again !!

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Feb 19, 2017 17:28:42   #
Dr.Dross
 
kankune wrote:
Yes...a free HONEST press. No one's perfect and mistakes happen, but these twits are blatant over and over again liers..You're wrong about McCain. He put us in a position of weakness.


Unreal. When you say "these twits" do you mean all of the Press? You said "these twits are blatant over and over again liers (liars)." Point out their lies. Just one. If those lies are blatant, as you say, it should be easy. And yes, I could be wrong about McCain.

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Feb 19, 2017 17:30:16   #
Dr.Dross
 
robmull wrote:
You "becha'," comrade Dr. Gross. You "becha'" {Sarah Palin (R)}. I had no idea you already knew all that stuff and you think it's "funny." Strange creature you are. (D)amn shame. Hummmmmmmmmm. What IS that "crushing" noise I keep hearing??? GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PRESIDENT "45" DONALD J. {BORN AGAIN} TRUMP(R)!!!


Very interesting style of writing. Sort of like it.

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Feb 20, 2017 15:03:54   #
ginger
 
Dr.Dross wrote:
Unreal. When you say "these twits" do you mean all of the Press? You said "these twits are blatant over and over again liers (liars)." Point out their lies. Just one. If those lies are blatant, as you say, it should be easy. And yes, I could be wrong about McCain.


I don't know why you are trying so hard. They only believe Trump and Fox. They might start to believe when they have nothing because Trump and his wall street cabinet took it all away.

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Feb 21, 2017 23:23:00   #
Dr.Dross
 
lpnmajor wrote:
If you watched any of the news shows today, they blamed it all on Obama. To hear them tell it, they desperately tried to work with Obama, offering him compromise after compromise - but were rebuffed. Now, they are totally mystified as to why democrats are being so intransigent. Obama caused the severe divide in the country and Clinton is responsible for the unrest and resistance to Trump. Strangely enough, Republicans and Trumps insanity have played no part at all. Unless I missed it, the Pope did not make the GOP or Trump saints.

Although only 1/5 of the population voted for Trump and not even all of those are Trumpites, Trumps agenda is the will of the people, according to Trump and the GOP. The remaining 4/5 of the people are morons, and their views don't count. Those that voted in the general election chose Clinton by a nearly 4 million majority, but since the electoral college overruled their choice ( due to gerrymandering by GOP legislatures, BTW ) their views and opinions are moot. Simply put, the majority of Americans did NOT choose Trump, they did NOT choose his agenda and they did NOT choose the agenda of the GOP elites. Knowing this and knowing the majority are determined to be heard, requires a maximum effort to - silence them. The press is the only voice the majority has left.

Dictators have a psychotic need to be #1 in all things, and will ruthlessly squash any dissent or opposition. Trumps rally was not a re-election campaign - he's trying to raise an army loyal to him and him alone.
If you watched any of the news shows today, they b... (show quote)


This is how Clinton lost the election: 100,000 combined votes in WI, Mi, and PA. That's it. Trump is an also-ran, in any Democracy. Lucky for him this is a Republic which still distrusts the will of the people.

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Feb 21, 2017 23:43:39   #
Dr.Dross
 
reconreb wrote:
" Look deeply, question, doubt, search, be vigilant for our Freedom " Thank you ,, we did and President Trump is our choice .. Now thats quite a stretch but not unexpected . Trump giving the media a lashing is not suppression , did he order any news media shut down , banned , censured ... NO.... Exaggeration is a strong point for you and its no surprise you jump every chance you get .. It is O.K. though I expect it and find it amusing that you take your Q's from the MSM and are no more credible than they are ,, zippo , zilch , nadda , no respect !!! thank you again !!
" Look deeply, question, doubt, search, be vi... (show quote)


Let me ask you this: If you put your trust and hope in someone, respect him or her for who they are and what he or she stands for, believe that person has your best interest at heart and that person tells you the Media is your enemy, like a word from your best friend or closest relative, what will you believe? Many people automatically agree with authoritarian figures--such as priests, pastors, and elders of the family--or just people in positions of authority, like a bus driver or the super of a building. Their word is law. To make, as Trump, the foundational freedom of this Republic the enemy lays the groundwork for a dictatorship. Distrust in what has essentially kept us free and exceptional for over two hundred years undermines our core ideals of liberty.

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Feb 21, 2017 23:44:08   #
Dr.Dross
 
ginger wrote:
I don't know why you are trying so hard. They only believe Trump and Fox. They might start to believe when they have nothing because Trump and his wall street cabinet took it all away.


Very true.

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