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“Our Deepest Fear”
Feb 13, 2017 22:59:11   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
“Our Deepest Fear”

Posted: 12 Feb 2017 02:05 PM PST


“Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate.
Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure.
It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us.
We ask ourselves, who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?
Actually, who are you not to be? You are a child of God.
Your playing small does not serve the world.
There is nothing enlightened about shrinking
so that other people won't feel insecure around you.
We are all meant to shine, as children do.
We were born to make manifest the glory of God that is within us.
It is not just in some of us; it is in everyone.
And as we let our own light shine,
we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same.
As we are liberated from our own fear,
our presence automatically liberates others”.

~ Marianne Williamson

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Feb 13, 2017 23:14:50   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
pafret wrote:
“Our Deepest Fear”


Desiderata



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Feb 14, 2017 00:05:49   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
Desiderata




"Innocence?
In a sense.
In no sense!

Was that it?
Was that it?
Was that it?

That was it."

A Howard Nemerov poem

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Feb 14, 2017 00:42:28   #
humanator
 
pafret wrote:
"Innocence?
In a sense.
In no sense!

Was that it?
Was that it?
Was that it?

That was it."

A Howard Nemerov poem


Wonderful poem, thank you. Powerful.

What I see is this. Innocence does not ask or think what must I do to be or appear innocent in any give situation: it's integrity is well beyond effort or intent. Thought, action and being inseparable. No considerations of image or standing. For me, when Christ spoke of being pure of spirit, this is what he meant. And if we do not, Christ warned, "Unless we become as little children, we shall not enter the kingdom of heaven." There are five explicit do or don't challenges to being in the kingdom or not that comprise being Christian or not.

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Feb 14, 2017 00:43:32   #
humanator
 
pafret wrote:
“Our Deepest Fear”

Posted: 12 Feb 2017 02:05 PM PST


“Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate.
Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure.
It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us.
We ask ourselves, who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?
Actually, who are you not to be? You are a child of God.
Your playing small does not serve the world.
There is nothing enlightened about shrinking
so that other people won't feel insecure around you.
We are all meant to shine, as children do.
We were born to make manifest the glory of God that is within us.
It is not just in some of us; it is in everyone.
And as we let our own light shine,
we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same.
As we are liberated from our own fear,
our presence automatically liberates others”.

~ Marianne Williamson
“Our Deepest Fear” br br Posted: 12 Feb 2017 02:0... (show quote)


Love this. A course In Miracles has a lot to offer for all, but perhaps is most needed by Christians.

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Feb 14, 2017 08:22:05   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
humanator wrote:
Wonderful poem, thank you. Powerful.

What I see is this. Innocence does not ask or think what must I do to be or appear innocent in any give situation: it's integrity is well beyond effort or intent. Thought, action and being inseparable. No considerations of image or standing. For me, when Christ spoke of being pure of spirit, this is what he meant. And if we do not, Christ warned, "Unless we become as little children, we shall not enter the kingdom of heaven." There are five explicit do or don't challenges to being in the kingdom or not that comprise being Christian or not.
Wonderful poem, thank you. Powerful. br br What I... (show quote)


Posted late last night, didn't notice the emphasis on this part was missing:

Was that IT?

Was THAT it?

WAS that it?

That was it."

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Feb 14, 2017 10:47:52   #
Alicia Loc: NYC
 
pafret wrote:
“Our Deepest Fear”

Posted: 12 Feb 2017 02:05 PM PST


“Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate.
Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure.
It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us.
We ask ourselves, who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?
Actually, who are you not to be? You are a child of God.
Your playing small does not serve the world.
There is nothing enlightened about shrinking
so that other people won't feel insecure around you.
We are all meant to shine, as children do.
We were born to make manifest the glory of God that is within us.
It is not just in some of us; it is in everyone.
And as we let our own light shine,
we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same.
As we are liberated from our own fear,
our presence automatically liberates others”.

~ Marianne Williamson
“Our Deepest Fear” br br Posted: 12 Feb 2017 02:0... (show quote)

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Beautiful ideology. Even when young I couldn't understand the idea of a god who would expect his creations to kneel before him. This is a greedy human aspect. One good example in literature was Ayn Rand - not the book appreciated by the republican Paul but in The Fountainhead where architect Rourke built a place of worship with normal ceilings and no kneelers because he believed that the creator would like his creations to stand tall.

I will never understand how some Christians believe that they should remain ignorant of ideas not in the bible. Some even complained that Pope Francis should NEVER have read the holy books of other religions. Evidently they revel in their ignorance! What do they expect of a religious leader - that he be rigid and as ignorant as they? I've read some of them and have discovered that basically they all say the same thing if all the myths are removed.

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Feb 14, 2017 10:57:54   #
Alicia Loc: NYC
 
humanator wrote:
Love this. A course In Miracles has a lot to offer for all, but perhaps is most needed by Christians.

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Years ago I studied, with Jose Silva, what is known as "Mind Control" which means control of one's own mind - not others. Also joined an esoteric group led by Anthony Fisichella who was well schooled in all ideologies. We were all thrilled when he eventually wrote a book (can't recall the name at the moment). Especially interesting is his annual lecture on the comparison of various religions. For instance, he discovered that the Virgin in most religions has a name that began with M - Mary Maya, Ma, Maria, etc. Of course all the original religious leaders were born of a Virgin. This in the face that all religions began in various parts of the world. Isn't that interesting.

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Feb 14, 2017 14:07:32   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Alicia wrote:
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Beautiful ideology. Even when young I couldn't understand the idea of a god who would expect his creations to kneel before him. This is a greedy human aspect. One good example in literature was Ayn Rand - not the book appreciated by the republican Paul but in The Fountainhead where architect Rourke built a place of worship with normal ceilings and no kneelers because he believed that the creator would like his creations to stand tall.

I will never understand how some Christians believe that they should remain ignorant of ideas not in the bible. Some even complained that Pope Francis should NEVER have read the holy books of other religions. Evidently they revel in their ignorance! What do they expect of a religious leader - that he be rigid and as ignorant as they? I've read some of them and have discovered that basically they all say the same thing if all the myths are removed.
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Reading the holy books of other religions is not verboten for Catholics and as a matter of fact I took comparative religion credits at a Catholic university I attended. The laity has a difficult time with one aspect, if ours is the true religion then how can the Pope make obeisance (Kissing the Koran) to another religion. Particularly this religion which is antithetical to virtually all other religions.

Catholics recognize that the Bible does not endorse the view that it is the sole determinant of Christian faith. In fact, that view is repudiated in Scripture. The true "rule of faith"—as expressed in the Bible itself, is Scripture plus Apostolic tradition, as manifested in the living teaching authority of the Catholic Church, to which were entrusted the oral teachings of Jesus and the apostles, along with the authority to interpret Scripture correctly.

Given that view, Church leaders, who cover the cross for political reasons or who conflate any other religion with ours are betraying the faith, giving scandal to the innocent and leading the laity astray. There are two valid branches of Catholicism, Roman and Byzantine Rite. Both have valid Priesthoods and Apostolic succession, The Byzantine Rite is schismatic because it does not recognize the authority of the Pope. Any other religion can never be acknowledged as being equal.

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