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The real reason the republicans hate Obamacare
Jan 18, 2017 08:36:12   #
mcmuria
 
To anyone interested in cutting thru all the bullshit that has been spewed by the right . go to the link below
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/1/14/1620532/-The-simple-sinister-reason-for-the-GOP-s-never-ending-war-on-Obamacare.
This article explains why the republican party began their organized efforts against national healthcare during the Clinton administration. The claims of costs and the lack of choice or even the hate the GOP has shows for Obama are all a smokescreen. It all comes down this, the republican party is willing to sacrifice tens of millions of American citizens to save themselves. The GOP is not concerned that the current program will fail. They are terified that it will work

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Jan 18, 2017 08:45:11   #
Rivers
 
mcmuria wrote:
To anyone interested in cutting thru all the bullshit that has been spewed by the right . go to the link below
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/1/14/1620532/-The-simple-sinister-reason-for-the-GOP-s-never-ending-war-on-Obamacare.
This article explains why the republican party began their organized efforts against national healthcare during the Clinton administration. The claims of costs and the lack of choice or even the hate the GOP has shows for Obama are all a smokescreen. It all comes down this, the republican party is willing to sacrifice tens of millions of American citizens to save themselves. The GOP is not concerned that the current program will fail. They are terified that it will work
To anyone interested in cutting thru all the bulls... (show quote)


The DailyKos??????!!!!! You're using that as your source? Obamacare is a disaster, and if you're too ignorant to see that, says a lot about you. Some advice for you, get off the 'Fake News' sites and get the real FACTS for a change. Read this post for the REAL numbers that you leftists keep skewing: http://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-92684-1.html

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Jan 18, 2017 08:56:01   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
mcmuria wrote:
To anyone interested in cutting thru all the bullshit that has been spewed by the right . go to the link below
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/1/14/1620532/-The-simple-sinister-reason-for-the-GOP-s-never-ending-war-on-Obamacare.
This article explains why the republican party began their organized efforts against national healthcare during the Clinton administration. The claims of costs and the lack of choice or even the hate the GOP has shows for Obama are all a smokescreen. It all comes down this, the republican party is willing to sacrifice tens of millions of American citizens to save themselves. The GOP is not concerned that the current program will fail. They are terified that it will work
To anyone interested in cutting thru all the bulls... (show quote)

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Uh, no one who can think, who has a brain for his very own use, will waste a second going to dailykos
Come up with a decent source and someone with the capability to THINK may check it out.
I, personally, am opposed to Obamacare, just like I opposed Medicare, because it is unconstitutional. I have always taken care of myself, irresponsible, tried to never take from others what I could do for myself. I expect every American to do likewise. I've never been opposed to charity and I contribute time and money to charities, but GOVERNMENT does not do charity.. CANNOT DO CHARITY - IT MAKES NO MONEY, ONLY STEALS IT .........any handouts that come FROM government were STOLEN BY GOVERNMENT FROM PRODUCTIVE TAXPAYERS. The only people who would approve of Obamacare are leftists who despise freedoms for the masses.

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Jan 18, 2017 09:38:28   #
EL Loc: Massachusetts
 
Tasine wrote:
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Uh, no one who can think, who has a brain for his very own use, will waste a second going to dailykos
Come up with a decent source and someone with the capability to THINK may check it out.
I, personally, am opposed to Obamacare, just like I opposed Medicare, because it is unconstitutional. I have always taken care of myself, irresponsible, tried to never take from others what I could do for myself. I expect every American to do likewise. I've never been opposed to charity and I contribute time and money to charities, but GOVERNMENT does not do charity.. CANNOT DO CHARITY - IT MAKES NO MONEY, ONLY STEALS IT .........any handouts that come FROM government were STOLEN BY GOVERNMENT FROM PRODUCTIVE TAXPAYERS. The only people who would approve of Obamacare are leftists who despise freedoms for the masses.
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Amen!

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Jan 18, 2017 09:55:21   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Where do these people come from? Daily Kos as a source? These people never look at the facts just spout their talking points. Dumb.
Tasine wrote:
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Uh, no one who can think, who has a brain for his very own use, will waste a second going to dailykos
Come up with a decent source and someone with the capability to THINK may check it out.
I, personally, am opposed to Obamacare, just like I opposed Medicare, because it is unconstitutional. I have always taken care of myself, irresponsible, tried to never take from others what I could do for myself. I expect every American to do likewise. I've never been opposed to charity and I contribute time and money to charities, but GOVERNMENT does not do charity.. CANNOT DO CHARITY - IT MAKES NO MONEY, ONLY STEALS IT .........any handouts that come FROM government were STOLEN BY GOVERNMENT FROM PRODUCTIVE TAXPAYERS. The only people who would approve of Obamacare are leftists who despise freedoms for the masses.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ br Uh, no o... (show quote)

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Jan 18, 2017 10:21:51   #
S. Maturin
 
JFlorio wrote:
Where do these people come from? Daily Kos as a source? These people never look at the facts just spout their talking points. Dumb.


The desperation of the left, especially the radical left that would suck on the daily kos, has the odor of an open grave, a July skunk roadkill.

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Jan 18, 2017 10:36:03   #
maryla
 
mcmuria wrote:
To anyone interested in cutting thru all the bullshit that has been spewed by the right . go to the link below
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/1/14/1620532/-The-simple-sinister-reason-for-the-GOP-s-never-ending-war-on-Obamacare.
This article explains why the republican party began their organized efforts against national healthcare during the Clinton administration. The claims of costs and the lack of choice or even the hate the GOP has shows for Obama are all a smokescreen. It all comes down this, the republican party is willing to sacrifice tens of millions of American citizens to save themselves. The GOP is not concerned that the current program will fail. They are terified that it will work
To anyone interested in cutting thru all the bulls... (show quote)

no that's garbage!! You forget to mention the onerous demands made of the employer. That is Donald's main concern.

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Jan 18, 2017 10:38:40   #
sboy
 
I am not a Republican. The reason why I and others do not care for Obamacare is that it takes away freedoms and replaces them with nothing, merely concentrating more power in government bureaucracies. I just want my life and the lives of my descendants to be spent in the same free climate that I have been used to for most of my life.
mcmuria wrote:
To anyone interested in cutting thru all the bullshit that has been spewed by the right . go to the link below
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/1/14/1620532/-The-simple-sinister-reason-for-the-GOP-s-never-ending-war-on-Obamacare.
This article explains why the republican party began their organized efforts against national healthcare during the Clinton administration. The claims of costs and the lack of choice or even the hate the GOP has shows for Obama are all a smokescreen. It all comes down this, the republican party is willing to sacrifice tens of millions of American citizens to save themselves. The GOP is not concerned that the current program will fail. They are terified that it will work
To anyone interested in cutting thru all the bulls... (show quote)

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Jan 18, 2017 11:02:30   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
What no ones saying is what happens later. The ACA devastates employer plans later. Obama made sure the worst parts of this bill wouldn't be felt until that pussy was out of office. They are ignoring the fact that the law is imploding as we speak.
maryla wrote:
no that's garbage!! You forget to mention the onerous demands made of the employer. That is Donald's main concern.

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Jan 18, 2017 14:03:46   #
maryla
 
sboy wrote:
I am not a Republican. The reason why I and others do not care for Obamacare is that it takes away freedoms and replaces them with nothing, merely concentrating more power in government bureaucracies. I just want my life and the lives of my descendants to be spent in the same free climate that I have been used to for most of my life.



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Jan 19, 2017 13:19:15   #
Callan
 
It is very unfortunate that liberals, in general, do not understand how our nations medical system can and should work for our nations citizens. First, there is no constitutional right to have other tax payers for someone else's medical costs. When our current POTUS pushed through the ACA and then implemented this 3000 page government run system their goal was to eventually have a single payer system. They did not envision that it would be so poorly rolled out and administered and how costly and inefficient it would become. Of coarse, it has been rejected because anything the government runs will always be a dismal failure. Bureaucrats has no incentive to do their jobs. It is crazy to think that people want a government entity to be between them and their doctor.

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Jan 20, 2017 06:57:23   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
mcmuria wrote:
The GOP is not concerned that the current program will fail. They are ter[r]ified that it will work


Yes, the GOP and any independent-minded individual with half a grain of self-respect are all having a serious problem with Obama's 'signature achievement', and for good reason.

According to a famous (infamous?) article published in the 1960's:

"There are 8 levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a social state. The first is the most important:

1) Healthcare – Control healthcare and you control the people"

Job #1: Control healthcare. Even before food! Before housing! Before the air we breathe! Want more?

"2) Poverty – Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.

3) Debt – Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.

4) Gun Control – Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.

5) Welfare – Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income)

6) Education – Take control of what people read and listen to – take control of what children learn in school.

7) Religion – Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools

8) Class Warfare – Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor."

Taken from 'How to Create a Social State' by Saul Alinsky

Does any of this sound familiar?

Time to 'drain the swamp'.

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Jan 20, 2017 15:31:34   #
maryla
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
Yes, the GOP and any independent-minded individual with half a grain of self-respect are all having a serious problem with Obama's 'signature achievement', and for good reason.

According to a famous (infamous?) article published in the 1960's:

"There are 8 levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a social state. The first is the most important:

1) Healthcare – Control healthcare and you control the people"

Job #1: Control healthcare. Even before food! Before housing! Before the air we breathe! Want more?

"2) Poverty – Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.

3) Debt – Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.

4) Gun Control – Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.

5) Welfare – Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income)

6) Education – Take control of what people read and listen to – take control of what children learn in school.

7) Religion – Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools

8) Class Warfare – Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor."

Taken from 'How to Create a Social State' by Saul Alinsky

Does any of this sound familiar?

Time to 'drain the swamp'.
Yes, the GOP and any independent-minded individual... (show quote)


Very very true!!. Hopefully protestors will come to appreciate living on their own without Gov't interference. They interviewed Willie Robertson at the presidential inauguration today and he correctly pointed out the crowd for Trump is increasing. His message was a populist message about returning power to the people. Surely common sense will rule!

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Jan 20, 2017 16:49:18   #
kenjay Loc: Arkansas
 
mcmuria wrote:
To anyone interested in cutting thru all the bullshit that has been spewed by the right . go to the link below
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/1/14/1620532/-The-simple-sinister-reason-for-the-GOP-s-never-ending-war-on-Obamacare.
This article explains why the republican party began their organized efforts against national healthcare during the Clinton administration. The claims of costs and the lack of choice or even the hate the GOP has shows for Obama are all a smokescreen. It all comes down this, the republican party is willing to sacrifice tens of millions of American citizens to save themselves. The GOP is not concerned that the current program will fail. They are terified that it will work
To anyone interested in cutting thru all the bulls... (show quote)

It was designed to fail dumb ass.

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Jan 21, 2017 08:22:41   #
ed4short Loc: New Hampshire
 
MCMURIA : get your head up and out of wherever it is and come back to reality. Man that was just dumb.

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