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Jan 13, 2017 22:58:29   #
thinksense
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
So, you don't think that being called "lying, anonymous, Zionist shills" is offensive. How about when an asshole insults your family? Like your father and mother. Or, accuses you of covering up for and defending mass murderers. The mass murderers who killed nearly 3000 people on 9/11 were, beyond any doubt, Islamic terrorists, specifically members of al-Qaeda. The 9/11 truth movement has let these barbarians off the hook.

If you think payne has demonstrated any continuity in his "discourse", you haven't been paying attention. Understandable since you just but in here with a prejudice comment, offering your two cents worth without a shred of continuity, or even honest objectivity.
So, you don't think that being called "lying,... (show quote)


If the shoe fits.........

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Jan 14, 2017 00:18:33   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
payne1000 wrote:
Blade runner posted a diagram of the fireproofing on the perimeter columns. It appears to have been at least an inch thick. It took 4 to five hours for the Windsor Tower steel to begin to fail in a much larger fire. The Windsor steel had no fireproofing at all. The South Tower fires burned for slightly less than an hour. There is no way the fireproofed steel in the Twin Towers could have been weakened by the short duration they burned. No skyscraper in the 100-year history of skyscrapers has ever fallen from fire damage. Many skyscrapers have been brought down with controlled demolition. You weren't there on 9/11. Maybe that's why you didn't see and hear what went on.
These people were there. They describe experiencing what you think is missing. http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UKfzGt6Fxk
Blade runner posted a diagram of the fireproofing ... (show quote)
Same old bullshit, different day. Typical, you never pay attention. That was INSULATION, not fireproofing.

Are you going to continue to expose your staggering ignorance of physics, chemistry, metallurgy, and fire science
with such tiresome redundancy?

Were you there on 9/11?

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Jan 14, 2017 08:59:52   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
You bitchin @ my phone again?... try and stay focused on the science you fail to understand or do you understand & just choose to lie?... Na you're too funny to understand what you try & sell...


Why do you continue to ignore my question as to whether you give credibility to information you get from unnamed sources?

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Jan 14, 2017 09:16:51   #
payne1000
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
OK, first you tell us that the collapsing mass could not possibly have crushed the entire building because the lower section of the tower was too strong, now you are telling us that the collapsing mass met no resistance at all. Which is it? When someone changes his story in mid stream it's a sure sign of someone working a lie.

Obviously when 165000 tons of the top of a 500000 ton building collapses, there is 335000 tons of building beneath it. That's a lot of tons to crush and bounce off of.

What we see in ALL videos and photos is air ejections due to over pressurization caused by the collapsing mass. Like stomping on an inflated balloon. What we do not see are explosive detonations, only the jaundiced eye of the truther loons can see what isn't there.
OK, first you tell us that the collapsing mass cou... (show quote)


The falling Towers met no resistance because explosives removed all that resistance. That's what I've always said.
How could your 165,000 tons crush the 335,000 tons below it when the videos show all this weight being ejected outward from the towers?
The alleged pile-driver never existed. Listed on this site are thousands of what you call "truther loons." They give their names, bios and most show their faces.
In other words, all of them have much more credibility than you. What each of them says proves you a liar thousands of times.
http://patriotsquestion911.com/



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Jan 14, 2017 09:23:54   #
payne1000
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
You may be getting close, the forces of a progressive building collapse can be explosive, as when hundreds of thousands of tons of steel and concrete crash into hundreds of thousands of tons of steel and concrete. Once the portion of the towers above the impact zones broke loose, there was no stopping the total destruction of the building. The collapse was an extraordinarily violent event from the start. There was never a single shred of evidence found that bore the signature of a compound explosive device. Just as there is no indication whatsoever of explosive detonations occurring in your "smoking gun". The controlled demolition theory is the figment of really warped imaginations.
You may be getting close, the forces of a progress... (show quote)


You won't identify yourself because it's a serious crime to defend mass murderers by lying.
Here's an aeronautical engineer and former combat pilot who is not afraid to identify himself and not afraid to tell the truth.
He totally contradicts your lies. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_4X8OVL5vo

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Jan 14, 2017 09:29:45   #
payne1000
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Same old bullshit, different day. Typical, you never pay attention. That was INSULATION, not fireproofing.

Are you going to continue to expose your staggering ignorance of physics, chemistry, metallurgy, and fire science
with such tiresome redundancy?

Were you there on 9/11?


Are you so stupid you don't know that insulation around steel columns is put there to insulate the column from fire?
I wasn't there on 9/11, but these people were: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UKfzGt6Fxk



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Jan 14, 2017 09:37:57   #
payne1000
 
thinksense wrote:
It is interesting to observe that one side of this "discussion" constantly uses deleterious names and descriptions and foul language as it attacks the other, while the other side does not answer in kind.

The nasty side even has a "thing", playing the role of a very low class, possible drug user using typical troll techniques, using shockingly bad language and even threats of physical harm in an effort to disgust and anger his victims so that they will be distracted from the continuity of their discourse..

These are signs of dishonest, con men facing a person whom they do not want to get his points made. The signs of entities who feel that they are losing the debate. They are not seriously looking for answers.

Personally I don't understand why payne is continuing to answer these entities who only repeat the same tactics and same confusing litany put forth to confuse the low intelligence readers. I would not. They are not worth the time, unless you like that sort of thing.


By the way, it is pretty disingenuous to claim that over $2,000,000,000,000 which has not been properly accounted for to this day, is not “missing”. I wonder if the Tax people would believe that the last year’s income and expenses record can’t be found, so I shouldn’t have to pay tax. Hay, it’s not my fault somebody burnt the office.
It is interesting to observe that one side of this... (show quote)


The reason I'm on this website is because it's a far-right Zionist dominated forum. I'm not preaching to the choir on this website.
I may not change many member's minds but at least I can make them aware of some facts which can lead them to the truth.

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Jan 14, 2017 09:41:01   #
payne1000
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
So, you don't think that being called "lying, anonymous, Zionist shills" is offensive. How about when an asshole insults your family? Like your father and mother. Or, accuses you of covering up for and defending mass murderers. The mass murderers who killed nearly 3000 people on 9/11 were, beyond any doubt, Islamic terrorists, specifically members of al-Qaeda. The 9/11 truth movement has let these barbarians off the hook.

If you think payne has demonstrated any continuity in his "discourse", you haven't been paying attention. Understandable since you just but in here with a prejudice comment, offering your two cents worth without a shred of continuity, or even honest objectivity.
So, you don't think that being called "lying,... (show quote)


Please show readers where I have insulted your mother and father or you will once more be proved a liar.

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Jan 14, 2017 11:18:40   #
emarine
 
payne1000 wrote:
The falling Towers met no resistance because explosives removed all that resistance. That's what I've always said.
How could your 165,000 tons crush the 335,000 tons below it when the videos show all this weight being ejected outward from the towers?
The alleged pile-driver never existed. Listed on this site are thousands of what you call "truther loons." They give their names, bios and most show their faces.
In other words, all of them have much more credibility than you. What each of them says proves you a liar thousands of times.
http://patriotsquestion911.com/
The falling Towers met no resistance because explo... (show quote)




How many times must you prove your ignorance in writing ... once again if the explosives provided a no resistance scenario the towers would achieved free fall speeds not 2/3 free fall ... it's way past time you got a grasp of this issue... Next...How can 165,000T completely destroy the solid 335,000T below it??????... The floor system was only designed to carry 13,000T live load & failed one at a time all the way down... bang, bang, bang...This was a simple overload of 150,000T per floor static weight...now learn the laws of motion & apply them to this equation & shock yourself... once the static potential weight went Kinetic the structures were doomed...putz

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Jan 14, 2017 11:25:18   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
How many times must you prove your ignorance in writing ... once again if the explosives provided a no resistance scenario the towers would achieved free fall speeds not 2/3 free fall ... it's way past time you got a grasp of this issue... Next...How can 165,000T completely destroy the solid 335,000T below it??????... The floor system was only designed to carry 13,000T live load & failed one at a time all the way down... bang, bang, bang...This was a simple overload of 150,000T per floor static weight...now learn the laws of motion & apply them to this equation & shock yourself... once the static potential weight went Kinetic the structures were doomed...putz
How many times must you prove your ignorance in wr... (show quote)


Once again I have to ask you, do you give credibility to information you get from unnamed sources?
This is important for readers to know about you.
Why do you fail to even acknowledge that I have posed this question to you numerous times?

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Jan 14, 2017 11:36:45   #
emarine
 
payne1000 wrote:
Once again I have to ask you, do you give credibility to information you get from unnamed sources?
This is important for readers to know about you.
Why do you fail to even acknowledge that I have posed this question to you numerous times?



And I have answered it numerous times backed by proof from engineering data... anyone can find the live load of a building , it's all on file & public info...
My source was you putz...I used your numbers for weight & the basic known facts on why the WTC towers failed... why do you continue to shoot yourself in the ass?

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Jan 14, 2017 12:02:58   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
And I have answered it numerous times backed by proof from engineering data... anyone can find the live load of a building , it's all on file & public info...
My source was you putz...I used your numbers for weight & the basic known facts on why the WTC towers failed... why do you continue to shoot yourself in the ass?


My question was not referring to any discussion we have in progress.
My question is simple and direct.
It involves how you process information.
Do you give credibility to information you receive from unnamed sources?

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Feb 10, 2017 19:06:45   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
How many times must you prove your ignorance in writing ... once again if the explosives provided a no resistance scenario the towers would achieved free fall speeds not 2/3 free fall ... it's way past time you got a grasp of this issue... Next...How can 165,000T completely destroy the solid 335,000T below it??????... The floor system was only designed to carry 13,000T live load & failed one at a time all the way down... bang, bang, bang...This was a simple overload of 150,000T per floor static weight...now learn the laws of motion & apply them to this equation & shock yourself... once the static potential weight went Kinetic the structures were doomed...putz
How many times must you prove your ignorance in wr... (show quote)


A NIST mathematician has come forward to say that NIST falsified their reports on the Towers. He's furious about the lies NIST told: http://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/new-nist-whistleblower-speaks-out-on-911/

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Feb 10, 2017 22:30:47   #
emarine
 
payne1000 wrote:
A NIST mathematician has come forward to say that NIST falsified their reports on the Towers. He's furious about the lies NIST told: http://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/new-nist-whistleblower-speaks-out-on-911/




A NIST mathematician ...so where is the faulty math?... your mathematician needs to show where NIST was wrong in their math or he's another arm chair troofer blowing smoke...

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Feb 11, 2017 09:08:07   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
A NIST mathematician ...so where is the faulty math?... your mathematician needs to show where NIST was wrong in their math or he's another arm chair troofer blowing smoke...


The NIST whistleblower has eyes with which he can see what happened.
He knows that mathematical formulas are only needed when the truth has to be covered up.



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