Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

According to DownsizeDC.org, there are at least 20 proposed answers to the problems of Obamacare. Starting with the preamble:

"We think the politicians screwed up healthcare. We have 20 specific ways they can unscrew it."

They go on:

Proposal #1: Restore natural prices and make them visible to patients. This will enable consumer control, foster competition, increase supply,
and reduce costs.
Proposal #2: Repeal Obamacare in its entirety before considering legislation to replace it.
Proposal #3: Politicians should make all sickness and wellness expenditures tax deductible, including insurance premiums and preventive measures,
such as supplements and fitness clubs.
Proposal #4: Revive true health insurance (and make it affordable too) by removing all the expensive mandates imposed by Obamacare and the
states.
Proposal #5: Outlaw monopolistic “certificates of need.”
Proposal #6: End punitive damages that enrich lawyers with no compensating health benefit.
Proposal #7: Make the FDA advisory, not dictatorial.
Proposal #8: Restrict the FDA to certifying safety only.
Proposal #9: End the FDA’s power to regulate generic drug factories.
Proposal #10: Limit pharmaceutical patent protection to the recovery of research costs.
Proposal #11: Remove redundant licensing requirements.
Proposal #12: Incentivize the frugal use of medical services by creating the equivalent of Medicaid and Medicare HSAs.
Proposal #13: Increase co-pays for Medicare and Medicaid patients.
Proposal #14: Reduce doctor visits by ending the need for prescriptions.
Proposal #15: The State should stop defining dietary guidelines.
Proposal #16: Create an exchange for pro-bono services and voluntary funding.
Proposal #17: Provide a 100% tax credit to anyone who pays for an indigent person’s healthcare expenses.
Proposal #18: Make Medicare a safety net rather than a dragnet.
Proposal #19: Make indigent access to the tax-funded safety net contingent on a history of personal responsibility.
Proposal #20: Create a schedule to devolve Medicare and Medicaid to the states or localities.

Breaking many of these down into simple language, they're basically saying 'get the government out of the way'. Right on. Let's take that a step further and instead of just applying this idea to healthcare, let's apply it to all of government. We'd finish with a much shorter list:

Abolish the IRS (Solve all tax problems)
Repeal Obamacare (all 1000+ pages of it)
Repeal all onerous regulations on all businesses (Make businesses profitable again by cutting bureaucracy expenses)
Remove tort limitations (Let the jury decide)
Reduce FDA to advisory and safety roles (No more power grabs)
Abolish the patent system (Replace it with nothing)
Repeal all drug control laws (including criminal laws)
Devolve Federal medical insurances (Medicaid, Medicare) to the States or municipalities

That's 20 steps reduced to 8, and not only is the healthcare system fixed, but a huge swath of business and economy in general is freed to prosper at the same time. What's not to like?

roy

One thing you will put about 50 million people out of work

Zombiefarmer23 Loc: Bull Hills

What?? How so? Details.

kc2wex

with the proposal that was made," Repeal all onerous regulations on all businesses (Make businesses profitable again by cutting bureaucracy expenses)" you will be putting 50 million people back to work. so what have you lost? not consider the other proposals that make common sense. Eventually when companys come back to america, and things are easier to start a business, you might see an employees market. Of course what would help would be getting rid of minimun wage which make competition in the market place and goods sold more easier.

pafret Loc: Northeast

There are quite a few things not to like about your proposals. Eliminating prescriptions will take us back to the time we had a serious Opium addict problem in this country. With our current drug culture, all possession and distribution would have to be decriminalized at the Federal level but that wouldn't necessarily be what the states would do. Half the drug using population would be bombed on Percoset most of the time and the other half would be in jail, depending on where you live..

Abolishing the patent system would stifle creative advances. The system exists not only to guarantee the the inventor can profit from his invention but also that the knowledge will become available for general use after 20 years.

Proposal 18 and 19 are devoid of meaning and proposal 20 is impossible because many states could not carry the burden and those citizens would get crappy medical support.

Proposal 7 and 8 are self contradictory, you can't have one without the other.

Proposal 16 establishes an exchange meaning quid pro quo. It cannot be "pro-bono" services and "voluntary funding". In addition it does not specify the type of services nor how an exchange is to be achieved if funding is voluntary. For whom is the funding supplied and who is the recipient of the services? I need some snow shoveling done and I will gladly pay you Tuesday for shoveling done today.

Alber

Study the systems in Canada, The United Kingdom, France and Spain. Create an universal health system without any intermediary (Insurance Companies). In those countries the medical attention is free an the medicine is subsidize. Create a voluntary system of mutual help affordable to the person of low income. The USA is the first country of the world and it is a shame that it is the number 37 in this field, ranking with Cuba that is number 39 a country where its inhabitants have a miserable life. There is to much red tape to get a good attention with the Obamacare.

Ricko Loc: Florida

[quote=Alber]Study the systems in Canada, The United Kingdom, France and Spain. Create an universal health system without any intermediary (Insurance Companies). In those countries the medical attention is free an the medicine is subsidize. Create a voluntary system of mutual help affordable to the person of low income. The USA is the first country of the world and it is a shame that it is the number 37 in this field, ranking with Cuba that is number 39 a country where its inhabitants have a miserable life. There is to much red tape to get a good attention with the Obamacare.[/q


Alber-have friends in Canada who are not overjoyed with their system Also, what works in a country with a lower population is more difficult to manage in a country like ours. Pop: US-330 mil, Canada-35 Mil, UK-63 Mil, FR-66 Mil, Sp-47 Mil. All options need to be on the table. Tremendous amount of waste,fraud and abuse in Medicare which is a small program. Historically, Govt is not good at managing money that is why we have deficit spending. Maybe if govt bureaucrat salaries were contingent upon proper management of a program to ensure it stays within the budget we might get better results. Good Luck America !!!

pafret Loc: Northeast

[quote=Ricko][quote=Alber]Study the systems in Canada, The United Kingdom, France and Spain. Create an universal health system without any intermediary (Insurance Companies). In those countries the medical attention is free an the medicine is subsidize. Create a voluntary system of mutual help affordable to the person of low income. The USA is the first country of the world and it is a shame that it is the number 37 in this field, ranking with Cuba that is number 39 a country where its inhabitants have a miserable life. There is to much red tape to get a good attention with the Obamacare.[/q


Alber-have friends in Canada who are not overjoyed with their system Also, what works in a country with a lower population is more difficult to manage in a country like ours. Pop: US-330 mil, Canada-35 Mil, UK-63 Mil, FR-66 Mil, Sp-47 Mil. All options need to be on the table. Tremendous amount of waste,fraud and abuse in Medicare which is a small program. Historically, Govt is not good at managing money that is why we have deficit spending. Maybe if govt bureaucrat salaries were contingent upon proper management of a program to ensure it stays within the budget we might get better results. Good Luck America !!![/quote]


That is a stellar idea, compensation contingent on performance. Now all we have to do is figure out how to get an audit done by a non-governmental agency to determine actual performance and figure out how to keep ex pols from joining that "independent" auditing group.

Alber

Creating non-profit associations in every county with the help of the State and Federal Gov. applying a system of mutual help, with a budget of the state and national gov. taking on account a quota for the number of associates at the begining of each year, with the payment of a monthly quota by each associate affordable to the persons of low income and equal for all associates including children, with hospitals and dispensarys for external attention under the control of such associations. This associations would be under controlment by an Agency in every state and a Federal Agency in the nation that will have the supervision of all the functions, technical and of the economy. There was an experience of this mutual system in Cuba before the comunist took all de hospitals of this associations. It is the same that Trump want to do with the education, a budget for each student, so a budget for each person health. This associations in Cuba, besides gave the medicine.

bggamers Loc: georgia

how about people that need medication?