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Jan 5, 2017 08:55:55   #
JimMe
 
padremike wrote:
Aren't they planning to break away from the Union? Actually, I think we ought to take another vote and boot them out, build a wall and no federal aid. We'll keep only our military bases.




Sounds like you're looking to have California become another Cuba...

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Jan 5, 2017 11:14:47   #
Carol Kelly
 
Loki wrote:
I thought Kellog's was in Michigan.


But they're aligned with the lgbt

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Jan 5, 2017 11:22:31   #
Carol Kelly
 
bggamers wrote:
Read a story where San Francisco spends 2 million dollars a year cleaning up streets of syringes and human wast.


In the 21st Century, that's worse than shameful. Maybe Nancy Pelosi can pick up that tab, the Federal government (i.e. Taxpayers) shouldn't be responsible for slovenly, ignorant, drugged out idiots. May be a few states need to learn a lesson and we can then bring down national debt. But it's going to cost a bundle just to get things back in order.
I don't look forward to a balanced Federal budget within a few years. We've put a lot of faith in Donald J Trump, but he's hardly a magician.

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Jan 5, 2017 11:27:18   #
jer48 Loc: perris ca
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
Is there any way to expel California which is supposedly the future of the USA? They're getting ready to go to war with us. Is this what happens when everyone is high? Holder seems the perfect choice to lead Brown into battle.


not everyone in Ca.

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Jan 5, 2017 11:30:39   #
jer48 Loc: perris ca
 
Loki wrote:
I thought Kellog's was in Michigan.


I think Battle Creek

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Jan 5, 2017 11:31:42   #
Carol Kelly
 
jer48 wrote:
not everyone in Ca.


We know that. A lot of people are good people but California has a lot of money, fruits, and nuts.

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Jan 5, 2017 11:33:35   #
Carol Kelly
 
jer48 wrote:
I think Battle Creek


But aligned with the LGBT. I don't wish to support that bunch of weirdos. Let's leave them on the list.

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Jan 5, 2017 11:43:29   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
We know that. A lot of people are good people but California has a lot of money, fruits, and nuts.


Indeed! But they do have the most talented and politically astute people in government or the public or the think tanks of America. They're located in Hollywood, recently changed to Hollyweed. It doesn't matter, of course, that they are the most overpaid, pampered, dysfunctional people, incapable of living normal lives, raising families or setting good examples for anyone except their own kind. The WW II veteran and civilian era entertainers would kick their sorry butts out of the business.

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Jan 5, 2017 12:14:43   #
bilordinary Loc: SW Washington
 
How much does the Fed give CA daily. 10 years ago it was 52 million per day.
I'll see if I can find up to date data.

[/quote=Carol Kelly]We know that. A lot of people are good people but California has a lot of money, fruits, and nuts.[/quote]

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Jan 5, 2017 12:57:44   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
They also have a program that supplies the homeless with $300 of tax payer money for each homeless person. Brilliant recruiting tool if you want a once beautiful city turned into a slum. I used to think East Coast liberals were the dumbest white people on the planet. I believe the West Coast libs are catching up.
bggamers wrote:
Read a story where San Francisco spends 2 million dollars a year cleaning up streets of syringes and human wast.

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Jan 5, 2017 13:02:36   #
bilordinary Loc: SW Washington
 
Unable to get a figure that can be relied on, CA claims the pay more taxes than they receive, but doesn't include the many programs they support!
bilordinary wrote:
How much does the Fed give CA daily. 10 years ago it was 52 million per day.
I'll see if I can find up to date data.

[/quote=Carol Kelly]We know that. A lot of people are good people but California has a lot of money, fruits, and nuts.
[/quote]

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Jan 5, 2017 13:53:12   #
Carol Kelly
 
padremike wrote:
Indeed! But they do have the most talented and politically astute people in government or the public or the think tanks of America. They're located in Hollywood, recently changed to Hollyweed. It doesn't matter, of course, that they are the most overpaid, pampered, dysfunctional people, incapable of living normal lives, raising families or setting good examples for anyone except their own kind. The WW II veteran and civilian era entertainers would kick their sorry butts out of the business.


You are so right! This is a point we've been discussing. What happened out there that they think they can put Trump away before he begins? If they don't have a script to read they are nobody.

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Jan 5, 2017 17:25:46   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
padremike wrote:
Aren't they planning to break away from the Union? Actually, I think we ought to take another vote and boot them out, build a wall and no federal aid. We'll keep only our military bases.




Keep our california bases and use them for building nukes or something along those lines. They would then be a hot first strike target. 70% of the snowflakes and buttercup gone in a flash of bright light. Russia then would be a friend of the U.S. lol lol

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Jan 5, 2017 18:56:37   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
son of witless wrote:
All of this is unnecessary. Trump needs to do to the leaders of Sanctuary Cities and States what President Kennedy did to Alabama Governor George Wallace. Kennedy sent 100 National Guard troops to Move Wallace out of the way when he blocked Black students from entering the University of Alabama. Obama used the power of the Federal government against local and state authorities trying to enforce immigration law.

Trump could send Federal Troops to arrest the governors and mayors who defy him.
All of this is unnecessary. Trump needs to do to t... (show quote)


So all that rhetoric about states and their 'rights' gets tossed out the window when rightists run the federal government. Now you want to use the feds to invade states and cities to get them to comply with your point, but if a leftist were to suggest the same thing your head would explode, right?

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Jan 5, 2017 19:01:20   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
bilordinary wrote:
How much does the Fed give CA daily. 10 years ago it was 52 million per day.
I'll see if I can find up to date data.

[/quote=Carol Kelly]We know that. A lot of people are good people but California has a lot of money, fruits, and nuts.
[/quote]

It's pretty easy to look up. California is one of the states least dependent on the federal government.

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/05/which-states-are-givers-and-which-are-takers/361668/

http://taxfoundation.org/blog/which-states-rely-most-federal-aid-0

http://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700/

These statistics also show that many of the red states are quite dependent on the handouts of the federal government.

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