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Dec 6, 2016 12:29:28   #
thor
 
First there was Romney, now Gore what gives Trump? I have a feeling Trump is not the conservative we were led to believe.Any one else feel this way?
 
Dec 6, 2016 12:33:45   #
Liberty Tree
 
I have known it all the time and that is why I did not vote for him or Hillary. Many are going to be very disappointed, but the Trump Davidians will support him no matter what he does or does not do.
Dec 6, 2016 15:59:46   #
padremike (a regular here)
 
thor wrote:
First there was Romney, now Gore what gives Trump? I have a feeling Trump is not the conservative we were led to believe.Any one else feel this way?


Patience! We can speculate but we don't know. I see no reason that Trump would cozy up to Gore and it might be to tell him to stick it!
Dec 7, 2016 06:19:57   #
Loki (a regular here)
 
thor wrote:
First there was Romney, now Gore what gives Trump? I have a feeling Trump is not the conservative we were led to believe.Any one else feel this way?


Of course he isn't. None of them are. However, Trump's appointment of Jeff Sessions as AG gives me hope he means what he says about illegal aliens. Sessions is one of the most outspoken opponents of illegal immigration. I'm concerned that he would consider General Petraeus for Sec/State, since Petraeus is a supporter of the UN Arms Treaty which our Senate voted down a couple of years ago. I am even more concerned that he would consider that milksop Romney. I think that Trump may disappoint less than some fear. I voted for him because I would rather take a chance that Trump will make good on a couple of his promises, than Hillary making good on ANY of hers.
Dec 7, 2016 06:22:27   #
crazylibertarian (a regular here)
 
thor wrote:
First there was Romney, now Gore what gives Trump? I have a feeling Trump is not the conservative we were led to believe.Any one else feel this way?



Trump has announced his list of potential SCOTUS nominees. He's stated that when we provide defenses for these various regimes around the globe that we sholod get sojmething back for our efforts and costs, not to mention lives. In this he is more in line with the conservatives of the first half of twentieth century, led by Robert Taft, than Mitt Romney, John McCain, the Bushes & yes, even our Ronald Reagan. George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams were all united in their attitude of 'trade with all, ally with none.' If we get nothing back, it cold prompt an examination of The Constitution and the proper role of Congress in determining policies. Congress makes decisions and the president enforces them.


Just contrast his views on abortion with the barbarity Hillary would allow. Trump told us that he was pro-choice nti some physicians he RESPECTS educated him about it. That's why he changed.

Respect is the operative word here, IMO, becuase liberals respect no one who disagress with them. In fact, most don't even respect each other. In extreme cases, there is the example of Hitler & Stalin. Both were socialists and both were power mad. The Clintons & Obamas are known to hate each other. There are numerous othe examples.
Dec 7, 2016 06:56:26   #
mcmlx
 
thor wrote:
First there was Romney, now Gore what gives Trump? I have a feeling Trump is not the conservative we were led to believe.Any one else feel this way?


Of course he's a RINO. He never Wanted to be a a "Republican" because he knows how dirty the true rep party is.
I'm registered as Republican and damn proud to be a republcan In Name Only!!!
Republican is NOT synonymous with conservative.
 
Dec 7, 2016 07:02:41   #
jack sequim wa (a regular here)
 
thor wrote:
First there was Romney, now Gore what gives Trump? I have a feeling Trump is not the conservative we were led to believe.Any one else feel this way?


Trump is not a republican and not a Democrat. Trump is pragmatic running on the Republican ticket. You do know what a pragmatist is, right?
Dec 7, 2016 07:49:57   #
rjoeholl
 
thor wrote:
First there was Romney, now Gore what gives Trump? I have a feeling Trump is not the conservative we were led to believe.Any one else feel this way?


Trump knows that the 1st rule of leadership is keep your friends close but keep your enemies closer. Maybe he'll make Gore ambassador to Turdsuckistan or something.
 
          
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