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Dec 7, 2016 19:38:05   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
I sure hope Trump is paying attention.

CounterRevolutionary wrote:
"Romney can't be trusted" you write? That's an understatement. Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney was responsible for Obamacare! The guy is a creeping Fabian socialist. First, the government mandates us to purchase safety belts, car seats for the kiddies, car insurance, and next health insurance. If Barbara Bush ever ran for president, she would include broccoli. It has to stop someplace.

Many secretary of state appointees have later run for president. It does not seem prudent for Trump to advance his nemesis to a new challenge to the White House in 2020, no matter how useful Romney's business experience might be in negotiating "deals" with NAFTA nations.
"Romney can't be trusted" you write? Tha... (show quote)



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Dec 7, 2016 22:03:22   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
L8erToots wrote:
I have to disagree - I've been in eng/mfg for 38 years and the opposite is true - it takes a lot longer and more money to move mfg offshore than it will be to bring it back because all the mfg facilities that were shuttered are still here - all the laid-off employees with years of experience are still here. Over 70,000 shuttered facilities and over 600,000 workers willing, able and just waiting for the chance.



Facilities that have been vacant for 15-20 years, retooling , installing equipment and machinery that in many cases needs to be built (in China ) permits and legal logistics, from commitment to doors open in most cases is an 18-36 month project. What part of my first reply did you object to?

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Dec 7, 2016 22:18:36   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
CounterRevolutionary wrote:
Jack, I would disagree with you on this.
1) we are not bound to China in trade. China has again nationalized most of its industry and much of ours has already left the East to go to Mexico.
2) The Pacific oyster business is suffering a red tide "demonic acid" from Alaska to Mexico. The entire northern Pacific Ocean is suffering a rising warmth from the ocean floor due to the shifting of the magnetic field. Look up the Danish SWARM constellation of satellites under the European Space Agency for more on the shifting magnetic fields over the surface of the earth.
3) My kitchen appliances made in China are few, since I read the "made in" labels.
4) Trump has competent business people and military men lined up to take charge. The economy will grow rapidly, especially the small businesses.
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I have a 30+ year personal knowledge of the oyster/clan industry and your argument does not apply (go back and reread what I wrote ) the red tide has not been a 40 year problem. And what I wrote apply to the tuna/ albacore industry also along with hundreds of others.

Moving a manufacturing company back to the USA after being gone 15-20 is not a few month project. 18 months would be ideal, 24-36months realistic. To believe they could return to the exact same location and turn on the lights is not reality.

Here is a link to an official government import trade data, covering several years.

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/imports

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Dec 8, 2016 04:38:34   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
eagleye13 wrote:
The process of moving manufacturing out of the USA has been by design, since at least the 70's. The good old PTB have been behind it!
It will take time; but the process MUST be reversed . Trump is the first President to actually bring it to our attention, and claims to do something about it.

I have printed this many times; In hopes it will sink in with others:

"An end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece, will accomplish much more than the old fashioned frontal attack" –
Richard Gardner; Ambassadorto Italy - quoted (CFR)Foreign Affairs, >>> *** April, 1974

“Actions at the multinational level will be needed, if the process of international relocation of industries is to be accelerated in an organized fashion…….” TC Report #23, >>>*** 1982


BTW; Romney can't be trusted
The process of moving manufacturing out of the USA... (show quote)



Trump, Pence are the very "Very" last possible chance to break the chains of America from the global agenda.

Oil independence is a must, period, next is manufacturing independence, period.

You have heard about emp attacks on our electrical grid, or an X 7-9 scale solar flar. If turbine generators were fried at our power plants, the only resource for a replacement comessage from China and an order of 1 takes a year. Under extreme conditions I sure several could be manufactured, after a period of time to tool up additional machinery.
My point is America (as you know) does not make many, many things that America needs to function, in order to break the chains.
Next Trum3p would have to file bankruptcy (2nd term) in order to be freed from global banking , thus removing all debt (specifically international debt, not national debt to independent contractors ) and return to the gold standard. Slow population growth through tough immigration laws, tight restrictions limited like Canada does, have large cash reserves and business plan, or higher education and large cash reserves with ability to contribute to society, or no citizenship. Green cards are very limited and very strict.
Can you imagine holding a dollar bill worth 97 cents or even a full dollar?


I just looked up, in 1977 a dollar then was equal today to over four dollars today. Another way to put it one dollar in 1977 was worth about twenty five cents and today a dollar is worth less than ten cents.

In 1977 I was 17 years of age cooking tableside at a water front restaurant south of Seattle. At $5.25 per hour plus tips, living single, could afford housing , utilities, food, gas, entertainment. Minimum wage at the time was $2.65

Had the dollar been worth 95 cents, instead of 25 cents, well you get the point. Try doing the exact same job today, at today's wages, and housing would be a dump, none or nearly no entertainment, food- poor diet, high in carbs.

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Dec 8, 2016 09:15:03   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Not easy or fast. 30 years late.
BUT
It has to happen. NOW! or never?
Our situation was a set up:
“Actions at the multinational level will be needed, if the process of international relocation of industries is to be accelerated in an organized fashion…….” TC Report #23, ******* 1982

Some bums are being thrown out of DC.
More to come, hopefully.

BTW; I was a Facilities Mechanical/HVAC engineer with McDonnell Douglas Astronautics, in Huntington Beach, Cal. (now Boeing) when they lifted our presses and other equipment, and sent them to Red China.

jack sequim wa wrote:
I have a 30+ year personal knowledge of the oyster/clan industry and your argument does not apply (go back and reread what I wrote ) the red tide has not been a 40 year problem. And what I wrote apply to the tuna/ albacore industry also along with hundreds of others.

Moving a manufacturing company back to the USA after being gone 15-20 is not a few month project. 18 months would be ideal, 24-36months realistic. To believe they could return to the exact same location and turn on the lights is not reality.

Here is a link to an official government import trade data, covering several years.

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/imports
I have a 30+ year personal knowledge of the oyster... (show quote)

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Dec 9, 2016 20:19:45   #
Robert Wilson Loc: Texas
 
I believe that a tax break is good for manufacturing, if you include taxation of incoming goods from foreign entities.

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