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Nov 30, 2016 07:50:46   #
Cool Breeze
 
Trunp has made history. Even before officially taking office he has saved American Jobs! He has done more for America than Obama has in eight years in office.
Trump is Amazing! Liberals kneel before your President Elect!

The president-elect is likely to claim that his great dealmaking skills are responsible for making the agreement happen, but what he won’t say is that United Technologies – Carrier’s parent company – was basically bribed with taxpayer dollars to keep a few hundred jobs in Indiana – and it had nothing to do with Trump himself. https://rdeliason.com/2016/11/29/the-emoluments-clause-bribery-and-president-trump/

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Nov 30, 2016 08:46:20   #
reconreb Loc: America / Inglis Fla.
 
Cool Breeze wrote:
Trunp has made history. Even before officially taking office he has saved American Jobs! He has done more for America than Obama has in eight years in office.
Trump is Amazing! Liberals kneel before your President Elect!

The president-elect is likely to claim that his great dealmaking skills are responsible for making the agreement happen, but what he won’t say is that United Technologies – Carrier’s parent company – was basically bribed with taxpayer dollars to keep a few hundred jobs in Indiana – and it had nothing to do with Trump himself. https://rdeliason.com/2016/11/29/the-emoluments-clause-bribery-and-president-trump/
Trunp has made history. Even before officially tak... (show quote)


Thanks a lot ,,, FOR NOTHING ! the article explains the E-clause . You claim Trump bribed this company ,, and offer coulda , woulda , shoulda and maybe but have nothing but accusations ,,NOTHING ,, sounds confusing dose it not ? It is ..



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Nov 30, 2016 08:46:23   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Hahaha...

Already upset that Americans are keeping their jobs.

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Nov 30, 2016 09:11:47   #
Cool Breeze
 
reconreb wrote:
Thanks a lot ,,, FOR NOTHING ! the article explains the E-clause . You claim Trump bribed this company ,, and offer coulda , woulda , shoulda and maybe but have nothing but accusations ,,NOTHING ,, sounds confusing dose it not ? It is ..


Yeah I said it! Wanna make something of it?



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Nov 30, 2016 09:14:56   #
CDM Loc: Florida
 
reconreb wrote:
Thanks a lot ,,, FOR NOTHING ! the article explains the E-clause . You claim Trump bribed this company ,, and offer coulda , woulda , shoulda and maybe but have nothing but accusations ,,NOTHING ,, sounds confusing dose it not ? It is ..


Like Ford Motor Company, Carrier did an assessment of the costs of moving, tooling etc. As part of that normal business assessment they factored in; a) this guy was NOT supposed to be elected and b) the favors we bought from Hilary with donations to the Clinton Initiative (boy, that was money down a rat hole in more ways than one!) are wiped out and c) the PROMISE of double digit penalties on imported goods from their new Mexican factory. The business driven outcome? The risk is too great that the penalties WILL happen ergo more profitable to stay here. It's all about shareholder interests NOT politics.

We can expect nothing but this sort of nonsense from Leftists from now on. Anything good for America is bad for a Leftist. But we ain't seen nothing yet. Wait til The Donald sets up the SCOTUS for the next generation if not more and wait til the 2018 mid-terms when we wipe them out in the congress and wait til the GDP is pushing 5% per quarter ... hoo bubba, then we will see some real nonsense ...

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Nov 30, 2016 09:15:28   #
CDM Loc: Florida
 
Super Dave wrote:
Hahaha...

Already upset that Americans are keeping their jobs.


Very well said!

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Nov 30, 2016 09:19:56   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
I will tell you that I am delighted that 1000 jobs are remaining in Indiana... That is great...

But I am also waiting to find out the cost... what did United get in return?

Carrier is the most profitable division and yet they wanted to move it to Mexico..

United gets 10% of profits from government contracts.. They also are given one and half Billion dollars for research and development for the DOD projects.

With a predicted large surge in defense spending.. How much is now going to go into United coffers?

What the cost of this job saver needs to be public... Will the taxpayers, particular the Indiana taxpayer get a good return for the buck?

United is a greedy company... They may have forced a high price for these jobs..

Waiting to find out..

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Nov 30, 2016 09:22:35   #
vernon
 
Cool Breeze wrote:
Trunp has made history. Even before officially taking office he has saved American Jobs! He has done more for America than Obama has in eight years in office.
Trump is Amazing! Liberals kneel before your President Elect!

The president-elect is likely to claim that his great dealmaking skills are responsible for making the agreement happen, but what he won’t say is that United Technologies – Carrier’s parent company – was basically bribed with taxpayer dollars to keep a few hundred jobs in Indiana – and it had nothing to do with Trump himself. https://rdeliason.com/2016/11/29/the-emoluments-clause-bribery-and-president-trump/
Trunp has made history. Even before officially tak... (show quote)



Man you are a real loser why not hope trump can do even more wren he takes office.

he has saved more jobs even before taking office than obama did in 8 yrs.he proves every day what a stupid bunch of commies are leading the demorat party.

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Nov 30, 2016 09:24:56   #
vernon
 
reconreb wrote:
Thanks a lot ,,, FOR NOTHING ! the article explains the E-clause . You claim Trump bribed this company ,, and offer coulda , woulda , shoulda and maybe but have nothing but accusations ,,NOTHING ,, sounds confusing dose it not ? It is ..



I really don't care how he did it he did it and that what counts.

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Nov 30, 2016 09:31:11   #
vernon
 
permafrost wrote:
I will tell you that I am delighted that 1000 jobs are remaining in Indiana... That is great...

But I am also waiting to find out the cost... what did United get in return?

Carrier is the most profitable division and yet they wanted to move it to Mexico..

United gets 10% of profits from government contracts.. They also are given one and half Billion dollars for research and development for the DOD projects.

With a predicted large surge in defense spending.. How much is now going to go into United coffers?

What the cost of this job saver needs to be public... Will the taxpayers, particular the Indiana taxpayer get a good return for the buck?

United is a greedy company... They may have forced a high price for these jobs..

Waiting to find out..
I will tell you that I am delighted that 1000 jobs... (show quote)



I really think it would break your tongue to say something good about trump.well you watch you are about to see something that we haven't had on 40 yrs. a leader with common sense.

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Nov 30, 2016 09:37:05   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
vernon wrote:
I really think it would break your tongue to say something good about trump.well you watch you are about to see something that we haven't had on 40 yrs. a leader with common sense.



Vern,

Did you read my first line? was that slamming Trump?

This event does not change my opinion of Trump. That is true. But saving jobs is good.

We also must know the facts of the agreement..

whatever they were, can every other company get the same deal.

Most of all, how expensive is it? I think most of the members of OPP are concerned about the national Dept..

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Nov 30, 2016 10:08:53   #
Cool Breeze
 
CDM wrote:
Like Ford Motor Company, Carrier did an assessment of the costs of moving, tooling etc. As part of that normal business assessment they factored in; a) this guy was NOT supposed to be elected and b) the favors we bought from Hilary with donations to the Clinton Initiative (boy, that was money down a rat hole in more ways than one!) are wiped out and c) the PROMISE of double digit penalties on imported goods from their new Mexican factory. The business driven outcome? The risk is too great that the penalties WILL happen ergo more profitable to stay here. It's all about shareholder interests NOT politics.

We can expect nothing but this sort of nonsense from Leftists from now on. Anything good for America is bad for a Leftist. But we ain't seen nothing yet. Wait til The Donald sets up the SCOTUS for the next generation if not more and wait til the 2018 mid-terms when we wipe them out in the congress and wait til the GDP is pushing 5% per quarter ... hoo bubba, then we will see some real nonsense ...
Like Ford Motor Company, Carrier did an assessment... (show quote)


The problem is greater than the 2100 jobs saved. This is nothing but a PR Con. Republicans are creaming in their panties in ecstasy. Soon the party will be over.

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Nov 30, 2016 10:11:31   #
Cool Breeze
 
permafrost wrote:
Vern,

Did you read my first line? was that slamming Trump?

This event does not change my opinion of Trump. That is true. But saving jobs is good.

We also must know the facts of the agreement..

whatever they were, can every other company get the same deal.

Most of all, how expensive is it? I think most of the members of OPP are concerned about the national Dept..


Nope! They are only worried about the National Dept when Democrats are in charge.

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Nov 30, 2016 10:16:37   #
Big Bass
 
reconreb wrote:
Thanks a lot ,,, FOR NOTHING ! the article explains the E-clause . You claim Trump bribed this company ,, and offer coulda , woulda , shoulda and maybe but have nothing but accusations ,,NOTHING ,, sounds confusing dose it not ? It is ..


He's making excuses for obutthole, who should have negotiated this long ago.

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Nov 30, 2016 10:20:44   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Cool Breeze wrote:
The problem is greater than the 2100 jobs saved. This is nothing but a PR Con. Republicans are creaming in their panties in ecstasy. Soon the party will be over.


They keep their jobs. You lost. Get over it.

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