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Nov 29, 2016 06:31:46   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Today in 1947, the UN voted for the partition of Palestine, creating the State of Israel, and fulfilling a promise made years earlier for a Jewish homeland. In their homeland, no less. After nearly 2000 years, the Jews finally had a country again.

Less well known is that today in 1864, the Colorado Militia, under the command of a despicable coward named Chivington, attacked and massacred a camp of peaceful Cheyenne Indians under the peace chief Black Kettle. You will note the date of the massacre. I suppose these heroes were so busy "protecting" people from peaceful Indians they just couldn't spare themselves to enlist in the union army.
Pardon me, I need to find somewhere to spit.

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Nov 29, 2016 07:26:19   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
Loki, with no reliable method of garnering news, no email, no TV, telephone, - perhaps, the inhabitants of Colorado had not yet heard about the Civil War.


Loki wrote:
Today in 1947, the UN voted for the partition of Palestine, creating the State of Israel, and fulfilling a promise made years earlier for a Jewish homeland. In their homeland, no less. After nearly 2000 years, the Jews finally had a country again.

Less well known is that today in 1864, the Colorado Militia, under the command of a despicable coward named Chivington, attacked and massacred a camp of peaceful Cheyenne Indians under the peace chief Black Kettle. You will note the date of the massacre. I suppose these heroes were so busy "protecting" people from peaceful Indians they just couldn't spare themselves to enlist in the union army.
Pardon me, I need to find somewhere to spit.
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Nov 29, 2016 07:30:03   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Loki wrote:
Today in 1947, the UN voted for the partition of Palestine, creating the State of Israel, and fulfilling a promise made years earlier for a Jewish homeland. In their homeland, no less. After nearly 2000 years, the Jews finally had a country again.

Less well known is that today in 1864, the Colorado Militia, under the command of a despicable coward named Chivington, attacked and massacred a camp of peaceful Cheyenne Indians under the peace chief Black Kettle. You will note the date of the massacre. I suppose these heroes were so busy "protecting" people from peaceful Indians they just couldn't spare themselves to enlist in the union army.
Pardon me, I need to find somewhere to spit.
Today in 1947, the UN voted for the partition of P... (show quote)
Good for Israel. May peace come with a Palestinian homeland with respected borders. History repeats itself. How many natives will die before the Dakota pipeline protest is over ?

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Nov 29, 2016 07:43:39   #
ssgtgood
 
Zemirah wrote:
Loki, with no reliable method of garnering news, no email, no TV, telephone, - perhaps, the inhabitants of Colorado had not yet heard about the Civil War.


Are you kidding me? Another idiot that doesn't know the history of this country. Chivington was a spineless bastard, end of story. Have you read what Custer, Sheridan, and Sherman did to the Indians? d

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Nov 29, 2016 08:01:45   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
ssgtgood wrote:
Are you kidding me? Another idiot that doesn't know the history of this country. Chivington was a spineless bastard, end of story. Have you read what Custer, Sheridan, and Sherman did to the Indians? d



Yes, ssgt, of course I was kidding.

duh, did you not notice I was speaking of email and TV and applying it to 1864?

I addressed my reply to Loki. He knew I was kidding.

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Nov 29, 2016 08:11:54   #
ssgtgood
 
In that case please accept my apologies. I'm tending to be a bit high strung these days. I've about had with all these f**king liberals.
Semper Fi

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Nov 29, 2016 08:24:00   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
ssgtgood wrote:
In that case please accept my apologies. I'm tending to be a bit high strung these days. I've about had with all these f**king liberals.
Semper Fi


With God´s grace, we have defeated them, ssgt..

There is now a lot of damage to the country to repair.

All the self-proclaimed liberals/democrats/marxists/progressives/communists are on life support -waiting for the next blow, - with no idea from which direction President-Elect Trump will next strike them!

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Nov 29, 2016 09:18:01   #
hprinze Loc: Central Florida
 
[quote=Have you read what Custer, Sheridan, and Sherman did to the Indians? d[/quote]

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You left out Lincoln' order to hang 39 innpcent Indians in Dakota

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Nov 29, 2016 09:45:15   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Zemirah wrote:
Loki, with no reliable method of garnering news, no email, no TV, telephone, - perhaps, the inhabitants of Colorado had not yet heard about the Civil War.


There were Colorado units fighting in the war. Mostly for the Union, a few for the Confederacy. They knew.

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Nov 29, 2016 09:48:42   #
EL Loc: Massachusetts
 
Zemirah wrote:
Loki, with no reliable method of garnering news, no email, no TV, telephone, - perhaps, the inhabitants of Colorado had not yet heard about the Civil War.


They had the telegraph. Though, I don't know how much of the country it covered.

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Nov 29, 2016 09:49:14   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
hprinze wrote:
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You left out Lincoln' order to hang 39 innpcent Indians in Dakota



The title of the post is TODAY in history. The incident you refer to happened on December 26th, 1862. I will be posting on that while everyone digests what an ass the "Great Emancipator" really was.

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Nov 29, 2016 09:52:28   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
ssgtgood wrote:
Are you kidding me? Another idiot that doesn't know the history of this country. Chivington was a spineless bastard, end of story. Have you read what Custer, Sheridan, and Sherman did to the Indians? d


Custer got his ass handed to him. Sherman did to the Indians what he did to the South in the Civil War. Had Southern forces deliberately targeted civilians the way Sherman did, we never would have heard the end of it.

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Nov 29, 2016 10:22:39   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Zemirah wrote:
With God´s grace, we have defeated them, ssgt..

There is now a lot of damage to the country to repair.

All the self-proclaimed liberals/democrats/marxists/progressives/communists are on life support -waiting for the next blow, - with no idea from which direction President-Elect Trump will next strike them!


I am not sanguine about our ability to repair the damage our nation has suffered. We are essentially the little Dutch boy with our fingers in the dyke whie we watch the ocean flow over the top. Our legislators, particularly the Rinos and Democrats, have done nothing, to prevent the downward slide to our current conditions. They are likely to impede any reforms undertaken by Trump. He has a Sisyphean Task ahead of him with as much likelihood of success.

Watching the absolutely insane response of young college students leaves me appalled and fearful of the future our grand-children will have. These are the political leaders of tomorrow. This complete lack of rationality has not occurred over-night; it was a slow steady process that started in the late fifties and has continued year by year in debasing our culture. This has occurred in many arenas, free speech pornography, communist infiltration and dominance of our educational system, revsionist text books ignoring facts and distorting reality. The list of fronts which debased our culture are endless.

All in the name of freedom and liberty, rather I should say license. We must accept guilt for much of this -- we did not protest when public morality was assassinated. We shrugged and said well I don't have to participate. Little did we understand that these forces penetrated into our homes via commercial entertainment. We banned certain programs for our children until virtually all programs and commercials were offensive, either in their distorted portrayal of real life or in their lack of decency and morals.

Eisenhower warned about the military industrial complex in his final speech and was little heeded. The public was stupid, I personally heard a woman on a bus talking to a friend and saying she was glad we were at war in Korea because her husband got a lot of overtime at his job and they were making big bucks.

All of us were persuing big bucks so we swallowed Vietnam, Laos, Libya, Syria and a host of other skirmishes and when we were not directly involved we funded dissidents with attendant arms sales. The biggest employers of Engineering skills are the major governmental contractors. The government directly employs more than half of all workers and indirectly another fifteen percent in support roles; how different is this than a socialist or communist government where the State owns all means of production?.

The result of all this? Our government is owned by corporate interests. Our biggest national expenditures are for the DOD, comprising some 60 plus percent of the national budget. Our "Representatives" do not represent us, they represent their owners.

Spy agencies such as NSA and CIA are sacred cows, not subject to questioning or oversight. When they are questioned they lie. Their budgets can't be challenged and they work at home to deprive us of our liberty and abroad to foment disruption around the world. We conducted an expensive war on drugs and put many people in jail, destroying their lives, and no one called the CIA to task for their Mena Drug smuggling operation. The spy-masters are our 'respected' leaders even to the presidency. The stock in trade of the spy, his essence and soul is betrayal of trust. Why would we expect such people to work for the nations good?

The tasks facing Trump make Hercules cleaning out the Augean Stables look like child's play. His commitment to draining the swamp is excellent but one needs to remember that this swamp is at the lowest elevation.

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Nov 30, 2016 11:05:29   #
J.A.F.I.1946
 
Great thought provoking post parfret. just thinkin'

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Dec 2, 2016 01:46:07   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
Pafret, books have been written to relate all the grievous errors which we, the people, allowed, more by omission than commission, to bring our nation to its´ present state.

¨I do not for one minute believe the role of President-Elect Donald J. Trump will be Sisyphean. I believe his entire life, to this point, has been training to assume the role of leading this nation - for just such a time as this. A Sisyphean existence would be a daily repetition of Ground Hog Day.

There is indeed very little, long term, in this contemporary world about which to maintain a sanguine outlook; however I find the aspect of a four year - (temporary) reprieve from the insanity of rabid Progressivistic controlled government to be blessedly sanguine. A modicum of common sense goes a long way.

This nations´ insidious public school system has been allowed to seriously hamper generations of its youth, beginning, fifty four years ago, on June 25, 1962, when the U.S. Supreme Court declared school-sponsored prayers unconstitutional, followed by a notable 1963 ruling, in which the U.S. Supreme Court banned Bible readings in public schools.

The icing on the cake was the 1973 murderous decision of the U.S. Supreme Court ruling that women, as part of their constitutional right to privacy, could terminate a pregnancy during the first two trimesters. Only during the last trimester, when the child could survive outside the womb, would states be permitted to regulate the abortion of a healthy pregnancy.

I believe our nation is under God´s judgment, and our reprieve will be short-lived, for, as a nation, we will not repent for the fifty five plus million human infants that have been lawfully slaughtered by their own mothers decision and permission.

Actually, about one-sixth (16.67%) of federal spending goes to national defense, rather than the 60% you quoted, and unless the military is enlarged and replenished posthaste, there will be no opportunity or reason to spend on anything else, for, the U.S., as a nation, will be no more.

Six years of defense cuts, totaling 25 percent reductions in its annual spending, and fifteen years of continuous war, have thoroughly degraded the U.S. military, and it desperately needs to be rebuilt.

The DOD is required to obtain 25 percent of its electricity from renewable sources by 2025. This mandate has no bearing on warfighting capabilities. Any work on renewable energy sources should be based on improving warfighting capabilities, not promoting green initiatives.

This mandate has created a bureaucracy focused on its implementation, - the exact cost of which is unknown. Congress should repeal the mandate and allow the military to determine when and how renewable energy is a more prudent option for warfighters.

In fiscal year 2015, the federal budget was $3.8 trillion. These trillions of dollars make up about 21 percent of the U.S. economy (as measured by Gross Domestic Product, or GDP). It's also about $12,000 for every woman, man and child in the United States.

For FY 2016, the Department of Defense requested funding totaling $585.2 billion, which is $24.9 billion or about 4 percent more than the FY 2015 enacted level of $560.3 billion, to finance both base
and overseas contingency operations.

The Department of Defense´™s base budget increased by 31 percent (adjusted for inflation) between 2000 and 2014, mainly because of higher costs for military personnel and operation and maintenance.

From 2000 to 2013, the number of veterans receiving VA disability payments rose by nearly 55 percent, and spending for those benefits almost tripled.

Mandatory spending is spending that Congress legislates outside of the annual appropriations process, usually less than once a year. It is dominated by the well-known earned-benefit programs Social Security and Medicare.

Mandatory spending makes up nearly two-thirds of the total federal budget. Social Security alone comprises more than a third of mandatory spending and around 23 percent of the total federal budget. Medicare makes up an additional 23 percent of mandatory spending and 15 percent of the total federal budget.

This chart shows where the projected $2.45 trillion in mandatory spending went in fiscal year 2015.

Spending on the Pentagon and related military programs is included in discretionary spending.

Discretionary spending refers to the portion of the budget that is decided by Congress through the annual appropriations process each year. These spending levels are set each year by Congress.

This pie chart shows how Congress allocated $1.11 trillion in discretionary spending in fiscal year 2015.

https://www.cbo.gov/taxonomy/term/17/featured

https://www.nationalpriorities.org/budget-basics/federal-budget-101/spending/



pafret wrote:
I am not sanguine about our ability to repair the damage our nation has suffered. We are essentially the little Dutch boy with our fingers in the dyke whie we watch the ocean flow over the top. Our legislators, particularly the Rinos and Democrats, have done nothing, to prevent the downward slide to our current conditions. They are likely to impede any reforms undertaken by Trump. He has a Sisyphean Task ahead of him with as much likelihood of success.

Watching the absolutely insane response of young college students leaves me appalled and fearful of the future our grand-children will have. These are the political leaders of tomorrow. This complete lack of rationality has not occurred over-night; it was a slow steady process that started in the late fifties and has continued year by year in debasing our culture. This has occurred in many arenas, free speech pornography, communist infiltration and dominance of our educational system, revsionist text books ignoring facts and distorting reality. The list of fronts which debased our culture are endless.

All in the name of freedom and liberty, rather I should say license. We must accept guilt for much of this -- we did not protest when public morality was assassinated. We shrugged and said well I don't have to participate. Little did we understand that these forces penetrated into our homes via commercial entertainment. We banned certain programs for our children until virtually all programs and commercials were offensive, either in their distorted portrayal of real life or in their lack of decency and morals.

Eisenhower warned about the military industrial complex in his final speech and was little heeded. The public was stupid, I personally heard a woman on a bus talking to a friend and saying she was glad we were at war in Korea because her husband got a lot of overtime at his job and they were making big bucks.

All of us were persuing big bucks so we swallowed Vietnam, Laos, Libya, Syria and a host of other skirmishes and when we were not directly involved we funded dissidents with attendant arms sales. The biggest employers of Engineering skills are the major governmental contractors. The government directly employs more than half of all workers and indirectly another fifteen percent in support roles; how different is this than a socialist or communist government where the State owns all means of production?.

The result of all this? Our government is owned by corporate interests. [b/Our biggest national expenditures are for the DOD, comprising some 60 plus percent of the national budget.[/b] Our "Representatives" do not represent us, they represent their owners.

Spy agencies such as NSA and CIA are sacred cows, not subject to questioning or oversight. When they are questioned they lie. Their budgets can't be challenged and they work at home to deprive us of our liberty and abroad to foment disruption around the world. We conducted an expensive war on drugs and put many people in jail, destroying their lives, and no one called the CIA to task for their Mena Drug smuggling operation. The spy-masters are our 'respected' leaders even to the presidency. The stock in trade of the spy, his essence and soul is betrayal of trust. Why would we expect such people to work for the nations good?

The tasks facing Trump make Hercules cleaning out the Augean Stables look like child's play. His commitment to draining the swamp is excellent but one needs to remember that this swamp is at the lowest elevation.
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