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Nov 27, 2016 10:42:18   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Where to begin? would take all morning or longer to delve into this deeply.
Pat Rosenstiel is presented as a "conservative"; is a pro popular vote advocate;
He claims to be strict constructionist.
A debate:
National Popular Vote: Time to Get Rid of the Electoral College?
https://youtu.be/5Jy6jRcELgs
I did not watch but the first few minutes of this "debate".
I am suspicious of the reasons why some one would advocate a majority popular vote to dictate what the whole country would be brought under. Been discussed about what that would bring.
IMO - Beware of those advocating the replacement of the Electoral college. I am suspicious of their motives.
The EC is another check in maintaining a Republic, from becoming a Democracy. A republic protects the minorities. A Democracy does not.

I do believe that "electors" (why people) should be automatic in voting as their constituents voted. NO flipping!!!

lindajoy wrote:
I posted this elsewhere, would like your thoughts as well, please...

How about your thoughts on this, please..???

Let's hope the President-elect will address it. Nullification of the Constitution is not an option despite what the cuckoo Communists want.

The problem is that this does not nullify the federal constitution. That provides that states can and do control how those voting in their state at the electoral college will vote. Many states do not specify in their state constitutions how those voting in the electoral college for their own state must vote. At a result, many states just need to pass a law to make the change happen. The vast majority of states which have passed something like this into law are Democratic majority states. They know based on heavily populated areas that are Democratic that they have an advantage in national elections even though the vast majority of the country geographically is red. This is another issue that Democrats have packaged as something that sounds good that will not be good if it continues to gather steam.

The danger comes if they are successful in getting this passed at enough traditional red states and some remaining blue states that there would be over half of the electoral college votes committed to the national popular vote. The concept of every vote counting seems like a good one, but with either system some votes will not count. There is little doubt this is a partisan effort. It should not be supported in a bi-partisan way.

There is a real chance that we have just held the last presidential election that will ignore the results of the national popular vote.

Most people believe the mechanism for electing a president can only be changed through a constitutional amendment, an extremely cumbersome process that requires the approval of two-thirds of the House and two-thirds of the Senate, as well as the approval of three-quarters of all the states. (Amendments can also be adopted by a constitutional convention, but one hasn't been held since the founding of the republic.)

But the truth is, a decade ago, a computer scientist named John Koza -- one of the inventors of the scratch-off lottery ticket -- came up with an ingenious way to institute the election of presidents through the popular vote, without touching the Constitution.

This week, as Hillary Clinton's lead in the popular vote continued to grow, the fury of her supporters over this apparent unfairness fueled huge new interest in Koza's plan.

Koza's solution is possible because the Constitution specifies that state legislatures can decide to choose presidential electors any way they want to. Koza proposed an interstate compact, enforceable through the impairments clause of the Constitution.

The compact says that every state that adopts it will appoint electors who promise to abide by the result of the national popular vote, as soon as enough states are participating to cast 270 votes -- the number needed to elect a president. Between 2007 and 2014, 10 states and the District of Columbia, with a total of 165 votes, adopted the compact.

What makes this progress especially remarkable: less than 100 people have been actively involved in the campaign to make this fundamental change in our electoral system.

Pat Rosenstiel is a lifelong Republican, the owner of a branding company and the senior national adviser to the National Popular Vote, which is the formal name of the effort. He says interest in it has exploded since November 8.

"We usually get two or three people a day using our website to send letters to their legislators in favor of the plan," said Rosenstiel. "But since the election, 100,000 letters have been sent to legislators across the country."

There is little doubt that liberals are pushing this because of their strength in heavily populated areas making it more difficult for conservatives to ever win a national election.....
I posted this elsewhere, would like your thoughts ... (show quote)

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Nov 27, 2016 11:23:35   #
moldyoldy
 
eagleye13 wrote:
vettelover; You pretty much have Moldy pegged:
"Moldy is either a paid democrat troll or he is simply a blind mindless idiot who has no ability to question what is put in front of him by the self serving global Satanist."

Moldy has both syndromes;
The Three Monkey
and
The Ostrich


There is a good reason why fake news sites target right wingers, they are gullible.

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Nov 27, 2016 11:27:41   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
moldyoldy wrote:
There is a good reason why fake news sites target right wingers, they are gullible.


vettelover; You pretty much have Moldy pegged:
"Moldy is either a paid democrat troll or he is simply a blind mindless idiot who has no ability to question what is put in front of him by the self serving global Satanist."

Moldy has both syndromes;
The Three Monkey
and
The Ostrich

By the way, Moldy. You must be a glutton for punishment;

Oh really, Moldy???
Pull your pants back up:-)

Project Veritas Action investigation:


Rigging the Election - Video II: Mass Voter Fraud
https://youtu.be/hDc8PVCvfKs


Rigging the Election – Video III: Creamer Confirms Hillary Clinton Was PERSONALLY Involved
https://youtu.be/EEQvsK5w-jY

Published on Oct 24, 2016

Part III of the undercover Project Veritas Action investigation dives further into the back room dealings of Democratic politics. It exposes prohibited communications between Hillary Clinton’s campaign, the DNC and the non-profit organization Americans United for Change. And, it’s all disguised as a duck. In this video, several Project Veritas Action undercover journalists catch Democracy Partners founder directly implicating Hillary Clinton in FEC violations. “In the end, it was the candidate, Hillary Clinton, the future president of the United States, who wanted ducks on the ground,” says Creamer in one of several exchanges….


Rigging the Election - Video IV: $20K Wire Transfer From Belize Returned
https://youtu.be/nUBrZItwVy4

It just keeps getting worser and worser!

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Nov 27, 2016 11:55:45   #
moldyoldy
 
eagleye13 wrote:
vettelover; You pretty much have Moldy pegged:
"Moldy is either a paid democrat troll or he is simply a blind mindless idiot who has no ability to question what is put in front of him by the self serving global Satanist."

Moldy has both syndromes;
The Three Monkey
and
The Ostrich

By the way, Moldy. You must be a glutton for punishment;

Oh really, Moldy???
Pull your pants back up:-)

Project Veritas Action investigation:


Rigging the Election - Video II: Mass Voter Fraud
https://youtu.be/hDc8PVCvfKs


Rigging the Election – Video III: Creamer Confirms Hillary Clinton Was PERSONALLY Involved
https://youtu.be/EEQvsK5w-jY

Published on Oct 24, 2016

Part III of the undercover Project Veritas Action investigation dives further into the back room dealings of Democratic politics. It exposes prohibited communications between Hillary Clinton’s campaign, the DNC and the non-profit organization Americans United for Change. And, it’s all disguised as a duck. In this video, several Project Veritas Action undercover journalists catch Democracy Partners founder directly implicating Hillary Clinton in FEC violations. “In the end, it was the candidate, Hillary Clinton, the future president of the United States, who wanted ducks on the ground,” says Creamer in one of several exchanges….


Rigging the Election - Video IV: $20K Wire Transfer From Belize Returned
https://youtu.be/nUBrZItwVy4

It just keeps getting worser and worser!
vettelover; You pretty much have Moldy pegged: br ... (show quote)


Project veritas

James O'Keefe
Political Activist
James Edward O'Keefe III is an American conservative political activist. He produces secretly recorded undercover audio and video encounters, some selectively edited to imply its subjects said things they did not, with figures and workers in academic, governmental and social service organizations, purporting to show abusive or allegedly illegal behavior by employees and/or representatives of those organizations. He gained national attention for his video recordings of workers at ACORN offices in 2009, his arrest and guilty plea in 2010 for entering the federal office of then-U.S. Senator Mary Landrieu under false pretenses, and the release of videos of conversations with two high-ranking, now former, NPR executives in 2011.
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Nov 27, 2016 12:29:49   #
SinnieK
 
Docadhoc wrote:
Have you seen the Alex Jones infowars video from 11/23 where he talks about documenting 3M illegals voting and 4M dead voters? If not, go to YouTube and look for recent info wars videos. It's pretty good.


You should post the site with your comment, it would help a lot.

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Nov 27, 2016 12:50:34   #
vettelover Loc: Richmond Va
 
moldyoldy wrote:
There is a good reason why fake news sites target right wingers, they are gullible.


Gullible? How about Robert Gibbs book. In it he discusses how Obama purposely deceived the black communities on gay marriage for votes knowing damn well they would see him for the fraud he is! False in one, False in everything!

You can also CLEARLY SEE how the Clinton foundation funds have dried up due to her election results. Donations to help the needy my ass!

You people are so morally bankrupt you have not a clue to truth, even when its one inch from your face. You people will do and say anything to serve yourselves for power and i mean anything!

Now that your party has been discovered for the liars and the public manipulators that your are (as well as sick and twisted) your Deep State propaganda machines are in full 24/7 spin and lie mode. Now you are creating yet another false straw man called "fake news" to deflect away from what you people are already doing. You are a traitor sir and you will eventual answer for your lies in this life or the next!!

You people should be careful for what you wish for, you might not like what your NWO utopia looks like.

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Nov 27, 2016 14:16:23   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
Cool Breeze wrote:
And they call Hillary corrupt?Those cheating scum!


Well, we finally agree. Hillary is corrupt.

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Nov 27, 2016 14:21:29   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
vettelover wrote:
I have not seen that. I will watch this morning. I did see the interview where Obama was promoting illegals to vote without repercussions. This is our America today. Lawlessness by our own elected officials all in the name of a permanent Democrat party. The corruption within our country is astounding!


It seems that those who could have brought Obama down multiple.times for overstepping his authority, have set idly by and just watched. The corruption runs far and wide as evidenced by the breadth and depth of D.C. opposition to Trump.

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Nov 27, 2016 14:22:05   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
moldyoldy wrote:
The fake news makers know that the right will believe any lie.


Um...to be honest, I see plenty of that on both sides. Is divisiveness your only pleasure in life?

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Nov 27, 2016 14:37:26   #
vettelover Loc: Richmond Va
 
Docadhoc wrote:
It seems that those who could have brought Obama down multiple.times for overstepping his authority, have set idly by and just watched. The corruption runs far and wide as evidenced by the breadth and depth of D.C. opposition to Trump.


Yes, that is abundantly clear! Question is, will he allow the our nations law enforcement to do there job and protect the whistleblowers who are willing to come forward with testimony? Truth to power!

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Nov 27, 2016 14:59:19   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Alex jones makes up crap and the ignorant buy into it, like trump, he quotes infowars conspiracies like they are facts, stupid.

ASSHOLE!
http://youtu.be/HFuHhWCQrFM

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Nov 27, 2016 15:03:43   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
mwdegutis wrote:


Obama Acknowledges and Encourages Illegal Aliens to Vote!
http://youtu.be/HFuHhWCQrFM

Disgraceful!!
Obama encourages illegals to vote on live TV. Now we know what Democrat opposition to voter ID was about.

Project Veritas Action investigation:
Here is what needs to happen; investigate and certify all the small blue specks on the map. Then we might get an honest count. Paper ballots, and picture ID's from this day forward must be mandatory. America is supposed to have guaranteed honest elections.

Rigging the Election - Video II: Mass Voter Fraud
https://youtu.be/hDc8PVCvfKs


Rigging the Election – Video III: Creamer Confirms Hillary Clinton Was PERSONALLY Involved
https://youtu.be/EEQvsK5w-jY

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Nov 27, 2016 16:31:12   #
moldyoldy
 
mwdegutis wrote:


He said citizens can vote, and the person he is talking to is a citizen. Clean out your biased ears.

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Nov 27, 2016 16:32:26   #
moldyoldy
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Obama Acknowledges and Encourages Illegal Aliens to Vote!
http://youtu.be/HFuHhWCQrFM

Disgraceful!!
Obama encourages illegals to vote on live TV. Now we know what Democrat opposition to voter ID was about.

Project Veritas Action investigation:
Here is what needs to happen; investigate and certify all the small blue specks on the map. Then we might get an honest count. Paper ballots, and picture ID's from this day forward must be mandatory. America is supposed to have guaranteed honest elections.

Rigging the Election - Video II: Mass Voter Fraud
https://youtu.be/hDc8PVCvfKs


Rigging the Election – Video III: Creamer Confirms Hillary Clinton Was PERSONALLY Involved
https://youtu.be/EEQvsK5w-jY
Obama Acknowledges and Encourages Illegal Aliens t... (show quote)


You can keep posting that crap all month, it still does not make it true.

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Nov 27, 2016 16:48:19   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
moldyoldy wrote:
He said citizens can vote, and the person he is talking to is a citizen. Clean out your biased ears.

Listen closely to the first ten seconds of the video you twit…“Of the millennials, dreamers, UNDOCUMENTED citizens, and I call them citizens…if I vote will immigration know where I live, will they come for my family and deport us?” followed by Obama’s answer. “Not true…” and the rest of his BS. Then listen again to Neil Cavuto’s commentary at the end while getting the shit out of your ears. Or are you too stupid to understand simple English?

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