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Sep 12, 2016 11:35:28   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
We do not live, can not & will not ever be isolated from the rest of the World. Our Problems are the Worlds problems & the Worlds Problems are our Problems.

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Sep 12, 2016 11:55:41   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Not exactly sure what you are trying to say. How about fixing our problems first?
Floyd Brown wrote:
We do not live, can not & will not ever be isolated from the rest of the World. Our Problems are the Worlds problems & the Worlds Problems are our Problems.

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Sep 12, 2016 12:29:55   #
mcmlx
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
We do not live, can not & will not ever be isolated from the rest of the World. Our Problems are the Worlds problems & the Worlds Problems are our Problems.


I take it that you are a globalist.
I have to clean up my own back yard before I start on the one next door.
Same with countries.

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Sep 12, 2016 13:27:53   #
vernon
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
We do not live, can not & will not ever be isolated from the rest of the World. Our Problems are the Worlds problems & the Worlds Problems are our Problems.



your statement is unclear . but if you are talking about immigration,this country and all other nations have control of their borders if they are to maintain a sovereign nation.i believe this nation is under attack along with europe and we have got to control future.

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Sep 12, 2016 13:31:32   #
kenjay Loc: Arkansas
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
We do not live, can not & will not ever be isolated from the rest of the World. Our Problems are the Worlds problems & the Worlds Problems are our Problems.

Bull shit.



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Sep 12, 2016 14:05:22   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
mcmlx wrote:
I take it that you are a globalist.
I have to clean up my own back yard before I start on the one next door.
Same with countries.


Why do you even restrict you self to your back yard. When what is needed in you back yard is what is needed in all back yards.

All that is really needed from any of us is to truly say what is that we really need. Then get together, lay out a plan of action a do what ever we can on making the World a better place in a way that is good for as many as is realistic.

I liken it to acting as Founding Fathers to create a World in which contains the basic idea behind the American Dream & all that is really good of what America was & could be.

The point is we need to account for all the bad that was done in the name of the American Public & center on the best of what is truly at the heart of America.

It boils down to our problems are problems that affect the World.

Other Nations problems affect Us.

We can't fix our problems with out taking in to account the Worlds Problems'

In solving our Problems we will find ways to solve some of the Worlds Problems.

Solutions to World Problems will solve some of our Problems.

So the answer is that if we want things fixed we have to look at all of the problems as one big problem.

So if we want to or not we need look at what even needs fixing we need to have the beat set of answers.
We do not live, can not & will ever not ever be isolated from the rest of the World. Our Problems are the Worlds problems & the Worlds Problems are our Problems.

Is what our Nation is about worthy of saving or not. America as it as it stands right now may be the only Nation best equipped to handle most of it's problems.

Do we want to take the right steps that we don't seem to agree on to fix what is wrong? If our way could be the right way would the World be a better World?

Do we as individuals wish to have & keep what is the basic part of what we are & want is restored?

Can we come to a strong agreement as to what is Wrong & what really needs to be done? If we what to solve a problem me first need to agree on just what the problem is.

I will have been on this site for 3yrs tomorrow. I have failed to see any change in reaching any real change in bring our views together in any meaningful way.

Which I see as ironic because we see much or what is wrong alike. I keep saying because we are divided so deeply that we have to find even in small ways the need to find common ground.

With what is going on in the world today if we are to retain any thing that is truly good about or way of life we need to act now.

So pack up our fears of what can go Wrong & Trust in our self to do what is in our heart & do what is right.

Together we need to quell our Fears & find the Trust in each other & put together an answer to send to who ever will listen to us.

I don't want to lead or follow. I just want to join together in finding answers to the problems we face. For if we can do that to paraphrase a great leader: "The dreams of this Nation will become the greatest creation of Mankind ever".

We need to seek those that have the desire to put aside their personal wants in the search for what comes to be what is best by all.

Again I say that what was great about what America was & should be a part of all we seek & need to save.

This is what I believe.

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Sep 12, 2016 14:05:39   #
Morgan
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
We do not live, can not & will not ever be isolated from the rest of the World. Our Problems are the Worlds problems & the Worlds Problems are our Problems.



Yes we do, should we have one currency?

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Sep 12, 2016 14:18:08   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
kenjay wrote:
Bull shit.


That is an answer that will solve lots of problems.

But more than likely not in the manner you wish to see.

That is sure to leave you on the outside of any thing that may happen as the World moves forward & you are left whos knows where.

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Sep 12, 2016 14:21:56   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Your certifiable. All these flowery statements. What an idiot. Have you seen followers of Islam's idea of moving forward?
Floyd Brown wrote:
That is an answer that will solve lots of problems.

But more than likely not in the manner you wish to see.

That is sure to leave you on the outside of any thing that may happen as the World moves forward & you are left whos knows where.

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Sep 12, 2016 14:32:45   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Morgan wrote:
Yes we do, should we have one currency?


As things are going now there will be no currency.

Just numbers in computers.

With the system of ever increasingly larger numbers there could never be enough currency to complete all transactions.

That is really needed is to restore the Trust that is need in holding every thing in some sort of stableness.

What is need now is finding answers to what we want & what price we will pay for it.

The biggest price could come in how we have to live with the changes. What ever we do may not affect the changes but we will still pay for it.

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Sep 12, 2016 15:03:27   #
mcmlx
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
Why do you even restrict you self to your back yard. When what is needed in you back yard is what is needed in all back yards.

All that is really needed from any of us is to truly say what is that we really need. Then get together, lay out a plan of action a do what ever we can on making the World a better place in a way that is good for as many as is realistic.

I liken it to acting as Founding Fathers to create a World in which contains the basic idea behind the American Dream & all that is really good of what America was & could be.

The point is we need to account for all the bad that was done in the name of the American Public & center on the best of what is truly at the heart of America.

It boils down to our problems are problems that affect the World.

Other Nations problems affect Us.

We can't fix our problems with out taking in to account the Worlds Problems'

In solving our Problems we will find ways to solve some of the Worlds Problems.

Solutions to World Problems will solve some of our Problems.

So the answer is that if we want things fixed we have to look at all of the problems as one big problem.

So if we want to or not we need look at what even needs fixing we need to have the beat set of answers.
We do not live, can not & will ever not ever be isolated from the rest of the World. Our Problems are the Worlds problems & the Worlds Problems are our Problems.

Is what our Nation is about worthy of saving or not. America as it as it stands right now may be the only Nation best equipped to handle most of it's problems.

Do we want to take the right steps that we don't seem to agree on to fix what is wrong? If our way could be the right way would the World be a better World?

Do we as individuals wish to have & keep what is the basic part of what we are & want is restored?

Can we come to a strong agreement as to what is Wrong & what really needs to be done? If we what to solve a problem me first need to agree on just what the problem is.

I will have been on this site for 3yrs tomorrow. I have failed to see any change in reaching any real change in bring our views together in any meaningful way.

Which I see as ironic because we see much or what is wrong alike. I keep saying because we are divided so deeply that we have to find even in small ways the need to find common ground.

With what is going on in the world today if we are to retain any thing that is truly good about or way of life we need to act now.

So pack up our fears of what can go Wrong & Trust in our self to do what is in our heart & do what is right.

Together we need to quell our Fears & find the Trust in each other & put together an answer to send to who ever will listen to us.

I don't want to lead or follow. I just want to join together in finding answers to the problems we face. For if we can do that to paraphrase a great leader: "The dreams of this Nation will become the greatest creation of Mankind ever".

We need to seek those that have the desire to put aside their personal wants in the search for what comes to be what is best by all.

Again I say that what was great about what America was & should be a part of all we seek & need to save.

This is what I believe.
Why do you even restrict you self to your back yar... (show quote)



And I truly respect your belief.
So I ask you, am I going to run to the neighbor's house on fire when my own home is burning down?

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Sep 12, 2016 15:22:11   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
JFlorio wrote:
Your certifiable. All these flowery statements. What an idiot. Have you seen followers of Islam's idea of moving forward?


Could the sins of our past finely caught up with us.

Say what you will but the only way you idea of what to do will mean engaging in war that would mean a greater cost in money & life's than what already have been lost.

Have you ever hear or read about what has taken place in the name of Christ has done what you find appalling.

The wars that have been fought in the nane of Christ are still being fought today.

I say there is very little to say but that all we are doing is making them madder & more people are hating Us. After over ten years of fighting them what have we done but make them & our allies hate us more for our heavy hand in all of this.

We need to set back and find out just who is going to gain from what is going on. That is our enemy. Could that be us (I don't don't see me gaining any thing. How about you?)

Why are we in a position where the Average American has to pay the cost for some one else's gain.

When you & yours under take to fight this war Personally I think you will fall short of getting the help you might need.

Just how has your personal life been treated so harshly by some one you would wish to do what you suggest to do to them..

After all they like bees would not have be as likely to bother you if you or some one didn't bother them.

Again just who or what is really behind all of this?

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Sep 12, 2016 15:31:43   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
mcmlx wrote:
And I truly respect your belief.
So I ask you, am I going to run to the neighbor's house on fire when my own home is burning down?


I would say that you have to make that choice.

My self I would call the fire department first.
The hope would be that they bring as many as they can as quick as they can & fight both fires at the same time.

I am sorry but we have to be sure that we are able to save as much of our way of life we can.

The general feeling is we have police & firemen with the hope of never having to call them.

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Sep 12, 2016 16:18:53   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
vernon wrote:
your statement is unclear . but if you are talking about immigration,this country and all other nations have control of their borders if they are to maintain a sovereign nation.i believe this nation is under attack along with europe and we have got to control future.


This is an issue that will take time to have it work out.

We do have rules & means to keep or restrict people from entering our country. Bottom line we can make it harder to enter but with our almost open borders with Canada & Limited control of entry from Mexico & with long ocean shore lines The only step that can stop or remove those here would take having a tamper proven way to know who every one is . This could mean that we all would have to prove who were are at any time.

We really can't have unlimited mobility between Nations until we have a safe way of identifying people.

If they are all ready here there is a another. Just how do you go about proving just who don't belong with out upsetting many who have a right to be here.

As for a wall they will just dig under it or clime over it. One has to take what the total cost may be to stop those from entering & deporting those already here.

In this day & age with an increase in coming to grips with the issue is very problematic.

It may take getting from Latin's here now how best to gain control of the situation with the least offensive way to those here now legally.
Rather than stopping people randomly one could just contact Latin organization. Showing a bit of understanding could help in coming up with the best way to solve the issue.

I don't think a blanket amnesty is the answer. The word or support from some one here could help & should be apart of it. Of coarse a fair means of letting people in to the country needed to be put in placed at the same time.

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Sep 12, 2016 16:19:19   #
kenjay Loc: Arkansas
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
That is an answer that will solve lots of problems.

But more than likely not in the manner you wish to see.

That is sure to leave you on the outside of any thing that may happen as the World moves forward & you are left whos knows where.

I can live with that.



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