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May 27, 2016 22:08:44   #
Don G. Dinsdale Loc: El Cajon, CA (San Diego County)
 
BREAKING NEWS! Congress Must Censure President Obama Over Hiroshima Speech

Tea Party - May 27, 2016

(Breitbart) – President Barack Obama told the world on Friday in Hiroshima that the American decision to drop nuclear bombs on Japan in 1945 arose from humanity’s worst instincts, including “nationalist fervor or religious zeal.”

The war that ended in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, he said, “grew out of the same base instinct for domination or conquest that had caused conflicts among the simplest tribes, an old pattern amplified by new capabilities and without new constraints.”

The speech — delivered on the eve of Memorial Day weekend — was billed by the White House as anything but an apology, but Obama’s words betrayed his true sentiments.

Obama, a native of Honolulu who grew up near Pearl Harbor, said nothing about the fact that Japan started the war; nothing about the fact that the Japanese were responsible for the slaughter of millions of civilians throughout Asia and the Pacific; nothing about the fact that the Japanese refused to surrender after hundreds of thousands had already been killed in conventional bombing.

Obama implied that Americans had not yet considered the human cost of the atomic bomb: we had to “force ourselves to imagine the moment the bomb fell” and “force ourselves to feel the dread of children confused by what they see,” he said.

He described the moral dilemmas of nuclear warfare as if no president, and no American, had considered them before. But he left out the moral case for ending the war, and the hundreds of thousands of deaths avoided because of Hiroshima.

The contrast to President Harry S. Truman could not have been clearer.

Reflecting on the decision to bomb Japan years later, Truman declared: “That bomb caused the Japanese to surrender, and it stopped the war. I don’t care what the crybabies say now, because they didn’t have to make the decision.”

As he has done before, Obama cast a moral equivalence between different civilizations, implying that Americans were just as bad as the Imperial Japanese, or anyone else.

But he went further, casting doubt on the American effort in World War II itself: “Nations arise telling a story that binds people together in sacrifice and cooperation, allowing for remarkable feats. But those same stories have so often been used to oppress and dehumanize those who are different.”

There is really only one response to Obama’s gesture, and it goes beyond media disputation and moral condemnation.

It must be made clear that at Hiroshima, Obama represented no one but himself — not the Greatest Generation who fought the war, and not the generations of Americans who have grown up enjoying the freedom that victory over Japan secured.

The U.S. Congress declared war on Japan the day after Pearl Harbor. Millions of Americans fought to save the country, and civilization. Hundreds of thousands died, often in brutal hand-to-hand combat against a fanatically determined Japanese enemy.

It is the inescapable duty of the Congress of the United States today to censure President Barack Obama for casting doubt on the sacrifices and motivations of the Americans who fought the Second World War — on the eve of Memorial Day, no less.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/05/27/hiroshima-censure-obama/

http://www.teaparty.org/congress-must-censure-president-obama-hiroshima-speech-167603/#sthash.8XUW20mI.dpuf

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May 27, 2016 22:29:29   #
73STNGLKABEE
 
Obola is a litte bitch

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May 27, 2016 23:17:02   #
Trooper745 Loc: Carolina
 
Don G. Dinsdale wrote:
BREAKING NEWS! Congress Must Censure President Obama Over Hiroshima Speech

Tea Party - May 27, 2016

(Breitbart) – President Barack Obama told the world on Friday in Hiroshima that the American decision to drop nuclear bombs on Japan in 1945 arose from humanity’s worst instincts, including “nationalist fervor or religious zeal.”

The war that ended in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, he said, “grew out of the same base instinct for domination or conquest that had caused conflicts among the simplest tribes, an old pattern amplified by new capabilities and without new constraints.”

The speech — delivered on the eve of Memorial Day weekend — was billed by the White House as anything but an apology, but Obama’s words betrayed his true sentiments.

Obama, a native of Honolulu who grew up near Pearl Harbor, said nothing about the fact that Japan started the war; nothing about the fact that the Japanese were responsible for the slaughter of millions of civilians throughout Asia and the Pacific; nothing about the fact that the Japanese refused to surrender after hundreds of thousands had already been killed in conventional bombing.

Obama implied that Americans had not yet considered the human cost of the atomic bomb: we had to “force ourselves to imagine the moment the bomb fell” and “force ourselves to feel the dread of children confused by what they see,” he said.

He described the moral dilemmas of nuclear warfare as if no president, and no American, had considered them before. But he left out the moral case for ending the war, and the hundreds of thousands of deaths avoided because of Hiroshima.

The contrast to President Harry S. Truman could not have been clearer.

Reflecting on the decision to bomb Japan years later, Truman declared: “That bomb caused the Japanese to surrender, and it stopped the war. I don’t care what the crybabies say now, because they didn’t have to make the decision.”

As he has done before, Obama cast a moral equivalence between different civilizations, implying that Americans were just as bad as the Imperial Japanese, or anyone else.

But he went further, casting doubt on the American effort in World War II itself: “Nations arise telling a story that binds people together in sacrifice and cooperation, allowing for remarkable feats. But those same stories have so often been used to oppress and dehumanize those who are different.”

There is really only one response to Obama’s gesture, and it goes beyond media disputation and moral condemnation.

It must be made clear that at Hiroshima, Obama represented no one but himself — not the Greatest Generation who fought the war, and not the generations of Americans who have grown up enjoying the freedom that victory over Japan secured.

The U.S. Congress declared war on Japan the day after Pearl Harbor. Millions of Americans fought to save the country, and civilization. Hundreds of thousands died, often in brutal hand-to-hand combat against a fanatically determined Japanese enemy.

It is the inescapable duty of the Congress of the United States today to censure President Barack Obama for casting doubt on the sacrifices and motivations of the Americans who fought the Second World War — on the eve of Memorial Day, no less.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/05/27/hiroshima-censure-obama/

http://www.teaparty.org/congress-must-censure-president-obama-hiroshima-speech-167603/#sthash.8XUW20mI.dpuf
BREAKING NEWS! Congress Must Censure President Oba... (show quote)


Obama is a Turd-in-a-Suit, has always been a Turd-in-a-Suit, and will always be a piece of shit. I expected nothing better from him, and we got the worst from him. He is simply a weenie bitch, and will never change.

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May 27, 2016 23:41:33   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Trooper745 wrote:
Obama is a Turd-in-a-Suit, has always been a Turd-in-a-Suit, and will always be a piece of shit. I expected nothing better from him, and we got the worst from him. He is simply a weenie bitch, and will never change.


I have already contacted both of my Senators and demanded they act to censure this bastard. I would have emailed my representative, but the little weasel is still waiting for Paul Ryan to give him permission to pee.

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May 28, 2016 05:25:19   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Don G. Dinsdale wrote:

It must be made clear that at Hiroshima, Obama represented no one but himself —

Actually, just being the elected president of the U.S. makes his gesture an official representation of the U.S. and as it happens, his opinion is indeed a reflection of millions of Americans, not to mention billions of people around the world.

Don G. Dinsdale wrote:

not the Greatest Generation who fought the war, and not the generations of Americans who have grown up enjoying the freedom that victory over Japan secured.

That's pure conjecture. There is no evidence that Japan posed any threat to our supposed freedoms. What led to the conflict was competition between Japanese and American imperialism in Southeast Asia.

Don G. Dinsdale wrote:

The U.S. Congress declared war on Japan the day after Pearl Harbor. Millions of Americans fought to save the country, and civilization. Hundreds of thousands died, often in brutal hand-to-hand combat against a fanatically determined Japanese enemy.

It is the inescapable duty of the Congress of the United States today to censure President Barack Obama for casting doubt on the sacrifices and motivations of the Americans who fought the Second World War — on the eve of Memorial Day, no less.
br The U.S. Congress declared war on Japan the da... (show quote)

Nothing Obama said takes anything away from those who fought in the war. He was referring to the factors that lead to the war in the first place. That's what he meant when he said the war that the bombs ended "grew out of the same base instinct for domination or conquest..." Obviously, Obama knows history well enough to understand that the war in the Pacific was the result of competition between imperial ambitions in South East Asia that was going on since the U.S. forced the Philippines into submission in 1902.



The Philippines, where U.S. General Jacob Smith famously issued the order to "kill everyone over the age of ten", is proof positive that the U.S. was just as much in the business of taking freedom away from people as the Japanese were. The Filipinos were fighting for their independence, the Americans were fighting for imperialism. And Obama was dead right about the fanaticism that allows a nation of people to get behind the belligerence of their leaders. It happened here and it happened in Japan too and I think that's the message Obama was presenting which obviously went over your head.

How embarrassing that in the wake of this international moment, Americans would be screaming for censure because their pride was hurt by a humanist gesture.

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May 28, 2016 06:34:24   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
straightUp wrote:
Nothing Obama said takes anything away from those who fought in the war. He was referring to the factors that lead to the war in the first place. That's what he meant when he said the war that the bombs ended "grew out of the same base instinct for domination or conquest..." Obviously, Obama knows history well enough to understand that the war in the Pacific was the result of competition between imperial ambitions in South East Asia that was going on since the U.S. forced the Philippines into submission in 1902.



The Philippines, where U.S. General Jacob Smith famously issued the order to "kill everyone over the age of ten", is proof positive that the U.S. was just as much in the business of taking freedom away from people as the Japanese were. The Filipinos were fighting for their independence, the Americans were fighting for imperialism. And Obama was dead right about the fanaticism that allows a nation of people to get behind the belligerence of their leaders. It happened here and it happened in Japan too and I think that's the message Obama was presenting which obviously went over your head.

How embarrassing that in the wake of this international moment, Americans would be screaming for censure because their pride was hurt by a humanist gesture.
Nothing Obama said takes anything away from those ... (show quote)


How embarrassing that your knowledge of history is so limited, or so biased by your slavish devotion to Obama. The Philippines were not an independent nation. They were ceded to the US by Spain, and the US intentions were for a temporary, rather than a permanent occupancy. The Philippine Insurrection actually prolonged the US occupation.
Obama's message ignored the fact that the Japanese attacked us, not the other way around. It ignores the fact that Japanese troops actually landed in Alaska. Neither he nor you made any mention of the fact that the Japanese occupation of the Philippines resulted in between one half million and one million Filipino deaths. The temporary US occupation and the Moro War casualties were around 30,000. While US forces committed atrocities, they were few.
From 1937 to 1945, the Imperial Japanese Army inflicted between 3 million and 10 million civilian casualties. The true figure is probably about halfway between these two, around 6 million. Roughly one third of Japanese prisoners died of mistreatment, malnutrition, and outright murder.
Your statement that US General Smith's order to "kill everyone over the age of ten is proof of US imperialism is parochial, poorly considered nonsense. Smith was court martialed over the order and resulting massacres. Smith was not proof of anything except his own instability. The attack on US troops which occasioned his infamous order was caused by his intervention in an affair involving some Catholic priests in violation of the US "hands off" policy in such matters.
At any rate, the US intervention in the Philippines ended in 1912. Had it not been for the insurrection and the instability it caused, the occupation would have ended sooner. You are actually drawing a parallel between this and the Japanese conquests of China, Korea, and other Southeast Asian countries with every intention of keeping the citizens of these places in permanent subjugation.
When one's country is attacked and thousands of it's citizens killed, it is not "belligerence" to defend yourself and seek retribution against the aggressor. Japanese mistreatment of civilians is well documented. Most of the US caused casualties in the Philippines were armed insurgents. There was a cholera epidemic in the Philippines at the time of the US occupation and many of these deaths have been wrongly assigned to US military actions by some sources.
Had the Japanese not begun a war that caused millions of civilian deaths, tens of thousands of military deaths, incalculable damage and misery to civilians in China and Southeastern Asia, and deliberately tortured and murdered their prisoners, both military and civilian so viciously that a third of them died in captivity, I might have been less offended by Obama's speech.
To equate this with US actions in the Philippines is comparing a summer breeze to a tornado. Most of the US atrocities in the Philippines were the result of one man's violation of policy and instability; that being General Smith. The US occupation was intended to be temporary rather than permanent, in contrast to Japan's empire building, and the Philippines were an occupied territory with no working independent government when they were ceded to the US. The Japanese invaded sovereign countries, in contrast.

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May 28, 2016 07:13:16   #
MarvinSussman
 
Don G. Dinsdale wrote:
BREAKING NEWS! Congress Must Censure President Obama Over Hiroshima Speech

Tea Party - May 27, 2016

(Breitbart) – President Barack Obama told the world on Friday in Hiroshima that the American decision to drop nuclear bombs on Japan in 1945 arose from humanity’s worst instincts, including “nationalist fervor or religious zeal.”

The war that ended in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, he said, “grew out of the same base instinct for domination or conquest that had caused conflicts among the simplest tribes, an old pattern amplified by new capabilities and without new constraints.”

The speech — delivered on the eve of Memorial Day weekend — was billed by the White House as anything but an apology, but Obama’s words betrayed his true sentiments.

Obama, a native of Honolulu who grew up near Pearl Harbor, said nothing about the fact that Japan started the war; nothing about the fact that the Japanese were responsible for the slaughter of millions of civilians throughout Asia and the Pacific; nothing about the fact that the Japanese refused to surrender after hundreds of thousands had already been killed in conventional bombing.

Obama implied that Americans had not yet considered the human cost of the atomic bomb: we had to “force ourselves to imagine the moment the bomb fell” and “force ourselves to feel the dread of children confused by what they see,” he said.

He described the moral dilemmas of nuclear warfare as if no president, and no American, had considered them before. But he left out the moral case for ending the war, and the hundreds of thousands of deaths avoided because of Hiroshima.

The contrast to President Harry S. Truman could not have been clearer.

Reflecting on the decision to bomb Japan years later, Truman declared: “That bomb caused the Japanese to surrender, and it stopped the war. I don’t care what the crybabies say now, because they didn’t have to make the decision.”

As he has done before, Obama cast a moral equivalence between different civilizations, implying that Americans were just as bad as the Imperial Japanese, or anyone else.

But he went further, casting doubt on the American effort in World War II itself: “Nations arise telling a story that binds people together in sacrifice and cooperation, allowing for remarkable feats. But those same stories have so often been used to oppress and dehumanize those who are different.”

There is really only one response to Obama’s gesture, and it goes beyond media disputation and moral condemnation.

It must be made clear that at Hiroshima, Obama represented no one but himself — not the Greatest Generation who fought the war, and not the generations of Americans who have grown up enjoying the freedom that victory over Japan secured.

The U.S. Congress declared war on Japan the day after Pearl Harbor. Millions of Americans fought to save the country, and civilization. Hundreds of thousands died, often in brutal hand-to-hand combat against a fanatically determined Japanese enemy.

It is the inescapable duty of the Congress of the United States today to censure President Barack Obama for casting doubt on the sacrifices and motivations of the Americans who fought the Second World War — on the eve of Memorial Day, no less.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/05/27/hiroshima-censure-obama/

http://www.teaparty.org/congress-must-censure-president-obama-hiroshima-speech-167603/#sthash.8XUW20mI.dpuf
BREAKING NEWS! Congress Must Censure President Oba... (show quote)


You read between the lines and found only that? Did you run out of whiskey?

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May 28, 2016 09:09:37   #
Safeways1217
 
straightUp wrote:
Actually, just being the elected president of the U.S. makes his gesture an official representation of the U.S. and as it happens, his opinion is indeed a reflection of millions of Americans, not to mention billions of people around the world
How embarrassing that in the wake of this international moment, Americans would be screaming for censure because their pride was hurt by a humanist gesture.


Actually, Obama is not a law unto himself by virtue of his election and if we think his rogue act has crossed the line, we are perfectly able to use the legislative branch to slap him back down to size. Will of the people and all that. As for the billions around the world part of your comment, Oblahblah was not elected to be president of the world. He was elected to represent the American interests and SERVE our needs. He is very much in need of censure and should in fact be forced to state that his words did not reflect the general sentiment of the people of this nation. Especially, at a time when, we are preparing to honor those who have fallen in battle for this nation.
So, if you find our attitude embarrassing, we find yours to be as despicable as your Comrade-In-Chief's.

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May 28, 2016 09:26:49   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Safeways1217 wrote:
Actually, Obama is not a law unto himself by virtue of his election and if we think his rogue act has crossed the line, we are perfectly able to use the legislative branch to slap him back down to size. Will of the people and all that. As for the billions around the world part of your comment, Oblahblah was not elected to be president of the world. He was elected to represent the American interests and SERVE our needs. He is very much in need of censure and should in fact be forced to state that his words did not reflect the general sentiment of the people of this nation. Especially, at a time when, we are preparing to honor those who have fallen in battle for this nation.
So, if you find our attitude embarrassing, we find yours to be as despicable as your Comrade-In-Chief's.
Actually, Obama is not a law unto himself by virtu... (show quote)


Outstanding!

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May 28, 2016 09:38:57   #
kaz
 
Why do we the people let this man keep bashing everything we have accomplished the people that sacrificed there lives for us are being disrespected to the highest by that speech I am a firm believer n hitting the restart button with the whole federal system

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May 28, 2016 09:45:14   #
saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina
 
Don, Your dislike for the President is way over the top. What did Obama do that deserved censure? He didn't apologize for the atomic bombing of Japan, although many people feel that he should have. He warned the world about the danger of atomic weapons. The nightmare of these weapons and the threat that they represent scares the hell out of me! I don't know about you, but I don't need no stinkin' mushroom cloud over American cities!!!
Don G. Dinsdale wrote:
BREAKING NEWS! Congress Must Censure President Obama Over Hiroshima Speech

Tea Party - May 27, 2016

(Breitbart) – President Barack Obama told the world on Friday in Hiroshima that the American decision to drop nuclear bombs on Japan in 1945 arose from humanity’s worst instincts, including “nationalist fervor or religious zeal.”

The war that ended in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, he said, “grew out of the same base instinct for domination or conquest that had caused conflicts among the simplest tribes, an old pattern amplified by new capabilities and without new constraints.”

The speech — delivered on the eve of Memorial Day weekend — was billed by the White House as anything but an apology, but Obama’s words betrayed his true sentiments.

Obama, a native of Honolulu who grew up near Pearl Harbor, said nothing about the fact that Japan started the war; nothing about the fact that the Japanese were responsible for the slaughter of millions of civilians throughout Asia and the Pacific; nothing about the fact that the Japanese refused to surrender after hundreds of thousands had already been killed in conventional bombing.

Obama implied that Americans had not yet considered the human cost of the atomic bomb: we had to “force ourselves to imagine the moment the bomb fell” and “force ourselves to feel the dread of children confused by what they see,” he said.

He described the moral dilemmas of nuclear warfare as if no president, and no American, had considered them before. But he left out the moral case for ending the war, and the hundreds of thousands of deaths avoided because of Hiroshima.

The contrast to President Harry S. Truman could not have been clearer.

Reflecting on the decision to bomb Japan years later, Truman declared: “That bomb caused the Japanese to surrender, and it stopped the war. I don’t care what the crybabies say now, because they didn’t have to make the decision.”

As he has done before, Obama cast a moral equivalence between different civilizations, implying that Americans were just as bad as the Imperial Japanese, or anyone else.

But he went further, casting doubt on the American effort in World War II itself: “Nations arise telling a story that binds people together in sacrifice and cooperation, allowing for remarkable feats. But those same stories have so often been used to oppress and dehumanize those who are different.”

There is really only one response to Obama’s gesture, and it goes beyond media disputation and moral condemnation.

It must be made clear that at Hiroshima, Obama represented no one but himself — not the Greatest Generation who fought the war, and not the generations of Americans who have grown up enjoying the freedom that victory over Japan secured.

The U.S. Congress declared war on Japan the day after Pearl Harbor. Millions of Americans fought to save the country, and civilization. Hundreds of thousands died, often in brutal hand-to-hand combat against a fanatically determined Japanese enemy.

It is the inescapable duty of the Congress of the United States today to censure President Barack Obama for casting doubt on the sacrifices and motivations of the Americans who fought the Second World War — on the eve of Memorial Day, no less.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/05/27/hiroshima-censure-obama/

http://www.teaparty.org/congress-must-censure-president-obama-hiroshima-speech-167603/#sthash.8XUW20mI.dpuf
BREAKING NEWS! Congress Must Censure President Oba... (show quote)

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May 28, 2016 10:21:47   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
Don, Your dislike for the President is way over the top. What did Obama do that deserved censure? He didn't apologize for the atomic bombing of Japan, although many people feel that he should have. He warned the world about the danger of atomic weapons. The nightmare of these weapons and the threat that they represent scares the hell out of me! I don't know about you, but I don't need no stinkin' mushroom cloud over American cities!!!



What did Obama say that deserved censure? He said that the US decision to use the bomb arose from humanity's worst instincts. I suppose the millions of innocent civilians deliberately killed by the Imperial Japanese Army was an example of humanity's best instincts? I wonder what more than a half million murdered Chinese civilians during the infamous Rape of Nanking thought of the wonderful altruism of the Japanese Empire? That's only a fraction of the death toll of Chinese civilians, courtesy of those oh so humanitarian Japanese. I wonder what the thousands of US prisoners in the Bataan Death March and subsequent captivity thought of Japanese motives? I mean the ones who managed to survive.

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May 28, 2016 12:08:21   #
Radiance3
 
Don G. Dinsdale wrote:
BREAKING NEWS! Congress Must Censure President Obama Over Hiroshima Speech

Tea Party - May 27, 2016

(Breitbart) – President Barack Obama told the world on Friday in Hiroshima that the American decision to drop nuclear bombs on Japan in 1945 arose from humanity’s worst instincts, including “nationalist fervor or religious zeal.”

The war that ended in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, he said, “grew out of the same base instinct for domination or conquest that had caused conflicts among the simplest tribes, an old pattern amplified by new capabilities and without new constraints.”

The speech — delivered on the eve of Memorial Day weekend — was billed by the White House as anything but an apology, but Obama’s words betrayed his true sentiments.

Obama, a native of Honolulu who grew up near Pearl Harbor, said nothing about the fact that Japan started the war; nothing about the fact that the Japanese were responsible for the slaughter of millions of civilians throughout Asia and the Pacific; nothing about the fact that the Japanese refused to surrender after hundreds of thousands had already been killed in conventional bombing.

Obama implied that Americans had not yet considered the human cost of the atomic bomb: we had to “force ourselves to imagine the moment the bomb fell” and “force ourselves to feel the dread of children confused by what they see,” he said.

He described the moral dilemmas of nuclear warfare as if no president, and no American, had considered them before. But he left out the moral case for ending the war, and the hundreds of thousands of deaths avoided because of Hiroshima.

The contrast to President Harry S. Truman could not have been clearer.

Reflecting on the decision to bomb Japan years later, Truman declared: “That bomb caused the Japanese to surrender, and it stopped the war. I don’t care what the crybabies say now, because they didn’t have to make the decision.”

As he has done before, Obama cast a moral equivalence between different civilizations, implying that Americans were just as bad as the Imperial Japanese, or anyone else.

But he went further, casting doubt on the American effort in World War II itself: “Nations arise telling a story that binds people together in sacrifice and cooperation, allowing for remarkable feats. But those same stories have so often been used to oppress and dehumanize those who are different.”

There is really only one response to Obama’s gesture, and it goes beyond media disputation and moral condemnation.

It must be made clear that at Hiroshima, Obama represented no one but himself — not the Greatest Generation who fought the war, and not the generations of Americans who have grown up enjoying the freedom that victory over Japan secured.

The U.S. Congress declared war on Japan the day after Pearl Harbor. Millions of Americans fought to save the country, and civilization. Hundreds of thousands died, often in brutal hand-to-hand combat against a fanatically determined Japanese enemy.

It is the inescapable duty of the Congress of the United States today to censure President Barack Obama for casting doubt on the sacrifices and motivations of the Americans who fought the Second World War — on the eve of Memorial Day, no less.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/05/27/hiroshima-censure-obama/

http://www.teaparty.org/congress-must-censure-president-obama-hiroshima-speech-167603/#sthash.8XUW20mI.dpuf
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Obama was wrong again! I could hardly wait when he is gone. Please let that time come soon and very soon. Bombing of Hiroshima saved the world and especially the US, and all the Pacific countries. Without that the whole Pacific Rim went into Japanese imperialism. Philippines was under Japan for 2 years. US saved RP and the rest of the Pacific countries. Japan enslaved the Asian women, and raped those who were caught.

Under President Obama, he favored ISIS, under Islam, his religion of peace. ISIS ravaged all the Middle East, killed all Christians, burned all the antiquities, homes, and churches, raped the women, killed their men and infants, and scattered all the Radical Islam throughout Europe and the US for their final conquest. To require to submit or kill those who refuse.
Their population is rapidly multiplying in Europe and the US for the takeover. ISIS is the main cause of the spread of all Muslims into Europe and the US. Their final targets.


I think Obama is a TRAITOR and ignorant of all world policies. Now, he is the champion of ISIS policies, the root causes of all deaths, rapes, and all RADICAL ISLAM spread all over Europe and the US. That is their main goal for the final conquest. To take the most civilized countries, Europe and the US for their god allah.

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May 28, 2016 12:18:51   #
Ricko Loc: Florida
 
Loki wrote:
How embarrassing that your knowledge of history is so limited, or so biased by your slavish devotion to Obama. The Philippines were not an independent nation. They were ceded to the US by Spain, and the US intentions were for a temporary, rather than a permanent occupancy. The Philippine Insurrection actually prolonged the US occupation.
Obama's message ignored the fact that the Japanese attacked us, not the other way around. It ignores the fact that Japanese troops actually landed in Alaska. Neither he nor you made any mention of the fact that the Japanese occupation of the Philippines resulted in between one half million and one million Filipino deaths. The temporary US occupation and the Moro War casualties were around 30,000. While US forces committed atrocities, they were few.
From 1937 to 1945, the Imperial Japanese Army inflicted between 3 million and 10 million civilian casualties. The true figure is probably about halfway between these two, around 6 million. Roughly one third of Japanese prisoners died of mistreatment, malnutrition, and outright murder.
Your statement that US General Smith's order to "kill everyone over the age of ten is proof of US imperialism is parochial, poorly considered nonsense. Smith was court martialed over the order and resulting massacres. Smith was not proof of anything except his own instability. The attack on US troops which occasioned his infamous order was caused by his intervention in an affair involving some Catholic priests in violation of the US "hands off" policy in such matters.
At any rate, the US intervention in the Philippines ended in 1912. Had it not been for the insurrection and the instability it caused, the occupation would have ended sooner. You are actually drawing a parallel between this and the Japanese conquests of China, Korea, and other Southeast Asian countries with every intention of keeping the citizens of these places in permanent subjugation.
When one's country is attacked and thousands of it's citizens killed, it is not "belligerence" to defend yourself and seek retribution against the aggressor. Japanese mistreatment of civilians is well documented. Most of the US caused casualties in the Philippines were armed insurgents. There was a cholera epidemic in the Philippines at the time of the US occupation and many of these deaths have been wrongly assigned to US military actions by some sources.
Had the Japanese not begun a war that caused millions of civilian deaths, tens of thousands of military deaths, incalculable damage and misery to civilians in China and Southeastern Asia, and deliberately tortured and murdered their prisoners, both military and civilian so viciously that a third of them died in captivity, I might have been less offended by Obama's speech.
To equate this with US actions in the Philippines is comparing a summer breeze to a tornado. Most of the US atrocities in the Philippines were the result of one man's violation of policy and instability; that being General Smith. The US occupation was intended to be temporary rather than permanent, in contrast to Japan's empire building, and the Philippines were an occupied territory with no working independent government when they were ceded to the US. The Japanese invaded sovereign countries, in contrast.
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May 28, 2016 12:19:18   #
Ricko Loc: Florida
 
Loki wrote:
What did Obama say that deserved censure? He said that the US decision to use the bomb arose from humanity's worst instincts. I suppose the millions of innocent civilians deliberately killed by the Imperial Japanese Army was an example of humanity's best instincts? I wonder what more than a half million murdered Chinese civilians during the infamous Rape of Nanking thought of the wonderful altruism of the Japanese Empire? That's only a fraction of the death toll of Chinese civilians, courtesy of those oh so humanitarian Japanese. I wonder what the thousands of US prisoners in the Bataan Death March and subsequent captivity thought of Japanese motives? I mean the ones who managed to survive.
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