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May 23, 2016 01:46:57   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Of course, we haven't seen any of this in the media but then the administration of BHO doesn't want us to know about these numbers. It seems to me that someone should be telling us about these things even if Obama doesn't want us to know. Maybe Representative Chaffetz is lying and using made up numbers. However, I doubt that very much.

He talking about aliens who were here illegally, released after committing crimes and being convicted and the large numbers of them who committed as bad as or the same crime again. Why weren't they deported after conviction? I think one would have to ask Obama and his people to learn that and still you wouldn't know.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QOwAJ2ez6U&app=desktop

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May 23, 2016 05:19:20   #
fuzzybill
 
oldroy wrote:
Of course, we haven't seen any of this in the media but then the administration of BHO doesn't want us to know about these numbers. It seems to me that someone should be telling us about these things even if Obama doesn't want us to know. Maybe Representative Chaffetz is lying and using made up numbers. However, I doubt that very much.

He talking about aliens who were here illegally, released after committing crimes and being convicted and the large numbers of them who committed as bad as or the same crime again. Why weren't they deported after conviction? I think one would have to ask Obama and his people to learn that and still you wouldn't know.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QOwAJ2ez6U&app=desktop
Of course, we haven't seen any of this in the medi... (show quote)


It looks like obummer is the leader of isis, wants to cripple 'AMERICA' so his muslim islamic isis friends can invade the USA with ease.
Look for something to happen in October right before the election, he will with his cronies in DC come up with some kind of mickey mouse bullshit to inact marshall law. Ijust hope all the military personell tells him to go to hell and not obey his orders to kill our own people. Our military is in worse shape now then it was in 1945 after ww11, thanks to all the Democ--rat liberal money grabbing pricks in DC. Now Killary (the lesbian) wants her party boy Bill, (the pedophile) back in the Oval office replacing the Queer that 's their now. WTF kind of Government do we have running this country????

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May 23, 2016 06:07:21   #
jaydee
 
fuzzybill wrote:
It looks like obummer is the leader of isis, wants to cripple 'AMERICA' so his muslim islamic isis friends can invade the USA with ease.
Look for something to happen in October right before the election, he will with his cronies in DC come up with some kind of mickey mouse bullshit to inact marshall law. Ijust hope all the military personell tells him to go to hell and not obey his orders to kill our own people. Our military is in worse shape now then it was in 1945 after ww11, thanks to all the Democ--rat liberal money grabbing pricks in DC. Now Killary (the lesbian) wants her party boy Bill, (the pedophile) back in the Oval office replacing the Queer that 's their now. WTF kind of Government do we have running this country????
It looks like obummer is the leader of isis, wants... (show quote)

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Man the truth you guys are saying is very scary. But I believe it to be true.
Nothing looks good at the present.
But we still have to hope & pray that God allows freedom to prevail. If it's not his will or plan, it won't happen. But if it is his will, then freedom will prevail.
The communist are working day & night to prevail over us. Our troops sent back. They will be nuked by Iran. Remember he had our Navy Seals killed. No more being trained.
Martial law can be implemented with out much resistance.
The electoral system is so corrupt, politicans stealing us blind.
It all boils down to this. Thomas Jefferson said " the only remedy for corruption is removal".

Good day.

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May 23, 2016 06:44:22   #
meridianlesilie Loc: mars
 
oldroy wrote:
Of course, we haven't seen any of this in the media but then the administration of BHO doesn't want us to know about these numbers. It seems to me that someone should be telling us about these things even if Obama doesn't want us to know. Maybe Representative Chaffetz is lying and using made up numbers. However, I doubt that very much.

He talking about aliens who were here illegally, released after committing crimes and being convicted and the large numbers of them who committed as bad as or the same crime again. Why weren't they deported after conviction? I think one would have to ask Obama and his people to learn that and still you wouldn't know.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QOwAJ2ez6U&app=desktop
Of course, we haven't seen any of this in the medi... (show quote)
------this is terrible..!!!! i wander if people would have been dumb enough to vote for obama if they knew what our futuer would be like with him in !!!!!!!!!!!!! ?????????? i didnt vote for him at all WE ARE GETTING SCAMMED & WE COULD ALL DIE B/C OF IT !!!!!!!!!!WE NEED TO GET HIM OUT OF OFFICE !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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May 23, 2016 06:52:22   #
jaydee
 
meridianlesilie wrote:
------this is terrible..!!!! i wander if people would have been dumb enough to vote for obama if they knew what our futuer would be like with him in !!!!!!!!!!!!! ?????????? i didnt vote for him at all WE ARE GETTING SCAMMED & WE COULD ALL DIE B/C OF IT !!!!!!!!!!WE NEED TO GET HIM OUT OF OFFICE !!!!!!!!!!!!!


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These libs lead by the communist, are the blind leading the blind.

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May 23, 2016 06:53:04   #
john Christopher
 
FussybillYou talk about all the democrates grabbing money. There is not one Republican in our government that is not a lair thief or money grabber. They are all crooks.

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May 23, 2016 08:01:27   #
Bruce Kennedy Loc: Kansas
 
oldroy wrote:
Of course, we haven't seen any of this in the media but then the administration of BHO doesn't want us to know about these numbers. It seems to me that someone should be telling us about these things even if Obama doesn't want us to know. Maybe Representative Chaffetz is lying and using made up numbers. However, I doubt that very much.

He talking about aliens who were here illegally, released after committing crimes and being convicted and the large numbers of them who committed as bad as or the same crime again. Why weren't they deported after conviction? I think one would have to ask Obama and his people to learn that and still you wouldn't know.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QOwAJ2ez6U&app=desktop
Of course, we haven't seen any of this in the medi... (show quote)


I'm sorry but my Bull Shit meter went off the charts when I listened to this congressman tell his story. So let me get this straight, an immigrant that is here, illegally, commits a murder, that person is captured, jailed put on trial and convicted of the crime, in the year 2015, and somehow this individual is just released back into society? At least this is what Congressman Chaffetz would have you believe. Are you telling me that after these illegal immigrants were convicted, the sentence was mere probation? Or maybe there was no sentencing. Maybe the Judge simply read the verdict..."Guilty of the crime of homicide"..." You're free to go"... I find that hard to believe. Remember Congressman Chaffetz said 196 illegal immigrants were convicted of "homicide", in the year 2015. And according to, or implicitly implied, by Congressman Chaffetz, these individuals were simply released back into society. You can understand why my Bull Shit meter went off the charts. Please provide the total statistics, for the U.S., on how many convicted murderers, upon conviction, are simply released back into society? If there were 196 illegal immigrants, convicted of murder, and simply released, back into society, in 2015, how many legal U.S. citizens, who were convicted of homicide, were simply released back into society, with no time spent in jail or prison? Why don't we get those numbers, oldroy?

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May 23, 2016 08:11:21   #
meridianlesilie Loc: mars
 
john Christopher wrote:
FussybillYou talk about all the democrates grabbing money. There is not one Republican in our government that is not a lair thief or money grabber. They are all crooks.
---------got that RIGHT !!!! ALL THEY DO IS GET IN OFFICE FOR THERE OWN GAIN !!!!
WHATEVER THEY CAN GAIN THE WANT IT !!!!!!!!!!!!ALL AROUND THE WORLD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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May 23, 2016 08:17:11   #
robmull Loc: florida
 
jaydee wrote:
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These libs lead by the communist, are the blind leading the blind.







Unfortunately, jay, not "blind leading blind," but an agenda that starts with the secular/communist liberal progressive daily morning "talking points," and delivered by the "state-run, drive-by, lap-dog, alphabet channel" media, 24/7/365, who have been in-bed together with (D) politics circa 1897. In the late '60's their "movement" ["red-diaper," SDS, Weather Underground], was "crushed," [Saul Alinsky], and the radical communists jumped right --- woops --- "LEFT," into our education system, politics and government, our current administration, leading to [CPUSA, SPUSA], OWS (SDS, Weather Underground Jr.), was the result, and ALMOST got crushed in NY. By the time Ferguson became the target, the radical communists needed assistance, [management "Jumbo-Jet" flew off for Christmas, 2011], and must have heard something about the "enemy of your enemy, friend" crap, and jumped-in-bed with the MB, CAIR, MSA and their affiliates, Hamas, Hezbollah and ISIS; and the "parade" was going swimmingly until one of the LGBTQ wanted to show their love of the "movement," and the loving and radical destruction of America to a fellow "protestor," so Bruce reached for Mulada zon Albudo da Froppuliz al Qaeda Taliban al SISI Barack's hand, and sparks certainly flew, for sure. After that, Bruce and all his Code Pink, PPH and LGBTQ comrades were tied and chained and dragged to the roof and unceremoniously tossed-off Trump Towers, two at a time for effect. And other than that the days went rather smoothly; a few {PIG} killings, some armed-robberies, a few arsons, a few assaults and some meaningful vandalisms, some strong-armed robberies, and the usual rapes and drug use, so you could say everything was right --- ups again --- "LEFT" on-track. GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TRUMP!!!

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May 23, 2016 08:25:31   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Bruce Kennedy wrote:
I'm sorry but my Bull Shit meter went off the charts when I listened to this congressman tell his story. So let me get this straight, an immigrant that is here, illegally, commits a murder, that person is captured, jailed put on trial and convicted of the crime, in the year 2015, and somehow this individual is just released back into society? At least this is what Congressman Chaffetz would have you believe. Are you telling me that after these illegal immigrants were convicted, the sentence was mere probation? Or maybe there was no sentencing. Maybe the Judge simply read the verdict..."Guilty of the crime of homicide"..." You're free to go"... I find that hard to believe. Remember Congressman Chaffetz said 196 illegal immigrants were convicted of "homicide", in the year 2015. And according to, or implicitly implied, by Congressman Chaffetz, these individuals were simply released back into society. You can understand why my Bull Shit meter went off the charts. Please provide the total statistics, for the U.S., on how many convicted murderers, upon conviction, are simply released back into society? If there were 196 illegal immigrants, convicted of murder, and simply released, back into society, in 2015, how many legal U.S. citizens, who were convicted of homicide, were simply released back into society, with no time spent in jail or prison? Why don't we get those numbers, oldroy?
I'm sorry but my Bull Shit meter went off the char... (show quote)


It does seem unbelievable doesn't it Bruce..I would certainly hope it is wrong, yet, I went looking for something in writing and all I kept getting was different Congressional Hearings on it...Then I changed the wording and well, here, let me share these with you......

Good Morning to you as well...Always nice to see you....

A variety for you to pick and chose from:


http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/ice-releases-19723-criminal-illegals-208-convicted-of-murder-900-of-sex-
crimes/article/2589785

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/04/28/obamas-ice-releases-19000-criminal-illegal-aliens-including-murderers-and-sex-offenders/


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/04/29/ice-under-fire-for-releasing-thousands-illegal-immigrants-with-rap-sheets.html

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/04/28/why-ice-is-releasing-and-not-deporting-illegal-immigrants-convicted-of-murder-and-sex-crimes/

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May 23, 2016 08:54:34   #
robmull Loc: florida
 
lindajoy wrote:
It does seem unbelievable doesn't it Bruce..I would certainly hope it is wrong, yet, I went looking for something in writing and all I kept getting was different Congressional Hearings on it...Then I changed the wording and well, here, let me share these with you......

Good Morning to you as well...Always nice to see you....

A variety for you to pick and chose from:


http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/ice-releases-19723-criminal-illegals-208-convicted-of-murder-900-of-sex-
crimes/article/2589785

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/04/28/obamas-ice-releases-19000-criminal-illegal-aliens-including-murderers-and-sex-offenders/


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/04/29/ice-under-fire-for-releasing-thousands-illegal-immigrants-with-rap-sheets.html

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/04/28/why-ice-is-releasing-and-not-deporting-illegal-immigrants-convicted-of-murder-and-sex-crimes/
It does seem unbelievable doesn't it Bruce..I woul... (show quote)





Very interesting LJ. I saw a "Special," last night, [I believe on the History Channel], about F & F, and how the "whistleblowers" have been treated, and some of the ATFE and Border Guards who sold some 2,500 very modern, semi-automatic [that could be easily converted to fully automatic] pistols, rifles, ammo and explosives to the Sinaloa [Chapo Guzman] Drug Cartel, and "walked" to Mexico. Time after time after time, after huge quantities of weapons were sold [mostly American taxpayer monies] to cartel "runners," and were just about to make the arrests before the weapons disappeared into Mexico, "stand-down" [like Benghazi] orders would be delivered. As a result, the weapons have been being used by the Sinaloa Drug Cartel to eliminate anybody in the small town across the border from Arizona. Thousands upon thousands have been killed, tortured, kidnapped and sex-slaved so far, and some of the "whistleblower" Agents feel that our government and the Sinaloa drug cartel were working together to not only "walk" weapons to Mexico, but protect the drugs, slaves and terrorists coming from Mexico into America. I believe it was Agent Dodson [ATFE whistleblower] that said he wasn't sure anymore who's side he had been working for; and who's side our government is now on; and Agent Dodson would give his life for his country, but would no longer walk across the street for our government. You can look-up Agent John Dodson on Google, and get an idea what went on; but there are still mass murders, etc., being committed using those American taxpayer funded, "walked" weapons!!! And the F & F "scandal," is the main [ONGOING] mass-murder case [thousands upon thousands] that "BHB" is using "Executive Privilege" to absolutely stonewall America and Congress, AGAIN!!! Treason ----- genocide??? You tell me!!! Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TRUMP!!!

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May 23, 2016 15:41:32   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
lindajoy wrote:
It does seem unbelievable doesn't it Bruce..I would certainly hope it is wrong, yet, I went looking for something in writing and all I kept getting was different Congressional Hearings on it...Then I changed the wording and well, here, let me share these with you......

Good Morning to you as well...Always nice to see you....

A variety for you to pick and chose from:


http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/ice-releases-19723-criminal-illegals-208-convicted-of-murder-900-of-sex-
crimes/article/2589785

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/04/28/obamas-ice-releases-19000-criminal-illegal-aliens-including-murderers-and-sex-offenders/


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/04/29/ice-under-fire-for-releasing-thousands-illegal-immigrants-with-rap-sheets.html

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/04/28/why-ice-is-releasing-and-not-deporting-illegal-immigrants-convicted-of-murder-and-sex-crimes/
It does seem unbelievable doesn't it Bruce..I woul... (show quote)


I opened the last of your links and found the very introduction by Chaffetz that I started this thread with. I have been thoroughly humored by the words of the left leaners who have been in the thread, so far. I don't think that many of them have any idea that those criminals were criminals when they entered the US illegally but they were even before they committed their second, and so on, crimes. One of them even quoted the left leaner talking points about we couldn't deport them because their countries didn't want them back. Now that is good reasoning but I don't see why we had to release them from prison for that reason. Leaners surely don't reason out much of that stuff but keep on spouting it.

I would really like to hear the continuation of that hearing because it is always really saddening, but humorous, to hear 'Lije' Cummings try to destroy the work of the committee. Speaking of 'Lije', he must never attend any floor meetings of the House since he is the "ranking member" of so many committees. He surely has to register his votes some way other than casting them on the floor. Actually, I detest that man since the days of Darrell Issa being the chairman of that committee.

Something for leaners to consider is that the Demo-criminals really believed that he could disturb the work of the Ben Ghazi special committee by being on it. They weren't at all happy when Trey Gowdy told them that the rules of that committee wouldn't be the same as the Mickey Mouse rules of Congressional Committees and didn't allow 'Lije' to play his games.

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May 23, 2016 15:44:32   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
robmull wrote:
Very interesting LJ. I saw a "Special," last night, [I believe on the History Channel], about F & F, and how the "whistleblowers" have been treated, and some of the ATFE and Border Guards who sold some 2,500 very modern, semi-automatic [that could be easily converted to fully automatic] pistols, rifles, ammo and explosives to the Sinaloa [Chapo Guzman] Drug Cartel, and "walked" to Mexico. Time after time after time, after huge quantities of weapons were sold [mostly American taxpayer monies] to cartel "runners," and were just about to make the arrests before the weapons disappeared into Mexico, "stand-down" [like Benghazi] orders would be delivered. As a result, the weapons have been being used by the Sinaloa Drug Cartel to eliminate anybody in the small town across the border from Arizona. Thousands upon thousands have been killed, tortured, kidnapped and sex-slaved so far, and some of the "whistleblower" Agents feel that our government and the Sinaloa drug cartel were working together to not only "walk" weapons to Mexico, but protect the drugs, slaves and terrorists coming from Mexico into America. I believe it was Agent Dodson [ATFE whistleblower] that said he wasn't sure anymore who's side he had been working for; and who's side our government is now on; and Agent Dodson would give his life for his country, but would no longer walk across the street for our government. You can look-up Agent John Dodson on Google, and get an idea what went on; but there are still mass murders, etc., being committed using those American taxpayer funded, "walked" weapons!!! And the F & F "scandal," is the main [ONGOING] mass-murder case [thousands upon thousands] that "BHB" is using "Executive Privilege" to absolutely stonewall America and Congress, AGAIN!!! Treason ----- genocide??? You tell me!!! Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TRUMP!!!
Very interesting LJ. I saw a "Special,"... (show quote)


I really wonder how many of our left leaners even know that Obama has used that Executive Privilege ruse to hide what Fast and Furious was actually about and what it resulted in.

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May 24, 2016 05:26:35   #
okie don
 
john Christopher wrote:
FussybillYou talk about all the democrates grabbing money. There is not one Republican in our government that is not a lair thief or money grabber. They are all crooks.


John,
That's why DC is not termed the District of Crime.

As you may know, our system of 'gubment is a CORPORATION. US Inc. thanks to the Act of 1871. It's listed in Dunn & Bradstreet and had a Dunn number. It's domiciled out of Puerto Rico, as I recall .
These 'elected Representatives work for the 'Lobbiests and Rothschield's Military Industrial Complex Eisenhower warned us about in 1961.
A REPUBLIC is badly needed.
Ben Franklin warned us years ago when he said " You have a REPUBLIC, if you can keep it". We didn't.
All these years as we all grew up we pledged 'alligence' stating " And to the REPUBLIC for which it stands" in our childhood pledge to our flag. Remember?
We were ALL ' DUPED 'from childhood.
FACT!!!

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May 24, 2016 05:30:28   #
okie don
 
Bruce Kennedy wrote:
I'm sorry but my Bull Shit meter went off the charts when I listened to this congressman tell his story. So let me get this straight, an immigrant that is here, illegally, commits a murder, that person is captured, jailed put on trial and convicted of the crime, in the year 2015, and somehow this individual is just released back into society? At least this is what Congressman Chaffetz would have you believe. Are you telling me that after these illegal immigrants were convicted, the sentence was mere probation? Or maybe there was no sentencing. Maybe the Judge simply read the verdict..."Guilty of the crime of homicide"..." You're free to go"... I find that hard to believe. Remember Congressman Chaffetz said 196 illegal immigrants were convicted of "homicide", in the year 2015. And according to, or implicitly implied, by Congressman Chaffetz, these individuals were simply released back into society. You can understand why my Bull Shit meter went off the charts. Please provide the total statistics, for the U.S., on how many convicted murderers, upon conviction, are simply released back into society? If there were 196 illegal immigrants, convicted of murder, and simply released, back into society, in 2015, how many legal U.S. citizens, who were convicted of homicide, were simply released back into society, with no time spent in jail or prison? Why don't we get those numbers, oldroy?
I'm sorry but my Bull Shit meter went off the char... (show quote)

Bruce,
Check out ' Sanctuary Cities'.
Okla City is one as it Tulsa.
They are not allowed to arrest and incarcerate wrong doers as I understand it all.
Total bullshit. IMO.
Pisses me off!

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