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May 3, 2016 00:00:25   #
Sicilianthing
 
DEAR AMERICA: Do You CARE If A Muslim Is OFFENDED By Our National Anthem?

Do you think Muslims have a right to be offended by our National Anthem? Or do you think they should embrace the culture of a country that they move to?

Imagine if the following was happening here in America. What would you do? Check it out…


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by Thomas Holmes

Everybody’s favorite militant and oppressive- yet somehow peace-loving- cult of religious immigrants is back in the news. Last week, we reported on things getting serious in the U.K., today it’s all about Great Brit’s former colony of criminals, Australia. Yep, after escaping to Down Under and western freedom, a glut of Islamists now declare that Australia has no right to ask Muslims to sing their national anthem or value the democratic principles of western citizenship.

This, according to Islamic activist group, Hizb-ut-Tahrir, which is campaigning against Australia because they believe the country is enforcing democratic values and a “disputed view” of history which contradicts Islamic beliefs.

“Requiring schoolchildren to sing the national anthem, and the citizenship pledge supporting democratic values, are a part of an oppressive campaign by Australian authorities of ‘forced assimilation’ of the Muslim community”.


– Hizb-ut-Tahrir spokesman, Unthman Badar

Well, if there’s one culture that knows a thing or two about “forced assimilation” it would be Islam. Mr. Badar goes on to insist that this supposed oppression is due to an “exaggerated fear of a security threat”. Yeah, because someone who represents a belief system with a history of violence while giving the finger to democracy from inside your own borders is a totally absurd thing to be concerned about. Personally, I think Mr. Badar is just ticked off because he thinks the government got their indoctrination process started before he could start his.

Getting back to the whole national anthem quibble, Mr. Badar asks, “If you don’t share those values, why should they [Muslim children] be forced to sing it?” Believe it or not, Mr. Badar does veer into a valid question, although he mistakenly thinks it lends credence to his argument. If our western leaders would take a second to remove their heads from a certain sun-less location they might realize what this question actually implies: If Muslims don’t share our values, why would they want to migrate to democratic countries? If they reject democracy in favor of continued Muslim/Sharia culture, are they really “fleeing” from that society at all? Why would we want people like that inside our borders?

Mr. Badar makes another crucial point when he states, “The attempt to reform Islam is doomed to failure.” Truer words have never been spoken. Sharia living is inseparable from Islam as any Muslim who admits to living under the Quran will tell you. The so-called western Muslims are keeping quiet about all these “Bad Muslims” either because they’re in abject denial about true Islam, in outright disobedience – which would be a death sentence – or are secretly supportive. Either way, it’s past time western leaders took a page out of Islam’s dedication and started identifying liberty-centric principles to stand up for exactly what democracy is and… is not. Anyone who wants to stand on our side of the line is welcome, anyone who doesn’t can go back home and rape your own women and embrace global hate.



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May 3, 2016 02:27:50   #
JimMe
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
DEAR AMERICA: Do You CARE If A Muslim Is OFFENDED By Our National Anthem?

Do you think Muslims have a right to be offended by our National Anthem? Or do you think they should embrace the culture of a country that they move to?

Imagine if the following was happening here in America. What would you do? Check it out…


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>



by Thomas Holmes

Everybody’s favorite militant and oppressive- yet somehow peace-loving- cult of religious immigrants is back in the news. Last week, we reported on things getting serious in the U.K., today it’s all about Great Brit’s former colony of criminals, Australia. Yep, after escaping to Down Under and western freedom, a glut of Islamists now declare that Australia has no right to ask Muslims to sing their national anthem or value the democratic principles of western citizenship.

This, according to Islamic activist group, Hizb-ut-Tahrir, which is campaigning against Australia because they believe the country is enforcing democratic values and a “disputed view” of history which contradicts Islamic beliefs.

“Requiring schoolchildren to sing the national anthem, and the citizenship pledge supporting democratic values, are a part of an oppressive campaign by Australian authorities of ‘forced assimilation’ of the Muslim community”.


– Hizb-ut-Tahrir spokesman, Unthman Badar

Well, if there’s one culture that knows a thing or two about “forced assimilation” it would be Islam. Mr. Badar goes on to insist that this supposed oppression is due to an “exaggerated fear of a security threat”. Yeah, because someone who represents a belief system with a history of violence while giving the finger to democracy from inside your own borders is a totally absurd thing to be concerned about. Personally, I think Mr. Badar is just ticked off because he thinks the government got their indoctrination process started before he could start his.

Getting back to the whole national anthem quibble, Mr. Badar asks, “If you don’t share those values, why should they [Muslim children] be forced to sing it?” Believe it or not, Mr. Badar does veer into a valid question, although he mistakenly thinks it lends credence to his argument. If our western leaders would take a second to remove their heads from a certain sun-less location they might realize what this question actually implies: If Muslims don’t share our values, why would they want to migrate to democratic countries? If they reject democracy in favor of continued Muslim/Sharia culture, are they really “fleeing” from that society at all? Why would we want people like that inside our borders?

Mr. Badar makes another crucial point when he states, “The attempt to reform Islam is doomed to failure.” Truer words have never been spoken. Sharia living is inseparable from Islam as any Muslim who admits to living under the Quran will tell you. The so-called western Muslims are keeping quiet about all these “Bad Muslims” either because they’re in abject denial about true Islam, in outright disobedience – which would be a death sentence – or are secretly supportive. Either way, it’s past time western leaders took a page out of Islam’s dedication and started identifying liberty-centric principles to stand up for exactly what democracy is and… is not. Anyone who wants to stand on our side of the line is welcome, anyone who doesn’t can go back home and rape your own women and embrace global hate.
DEAR AMERICA: Do You CARE If A Muslim Is OFFENDED ... (show quote)



I'm a USA Citizen, and I will only speak to Muslims who immigrate to Our USA:

My problem stems from the DemLib-Socialists that kowtow to Islamic Beliefs and change School Programs, Business Programs, and EVEN LAWS to placate Muslims...

Sharia Laws are Islamic Laws... When Religious Laws conflict with Our Nation's Laws, Our Nation's Laws MUST PREVAIL... Because Our USA is founded on the Principle that NO RELIGION WILL DICTATE LAW...

And I STRONGLY BELIEVE that if ANYONE commits crimes AGAINST Our Nation's Laws IN THE NAME OF THEIR RELIGION, they should be arrested, tried, and if found guilty, imprisoned or executed AS OUR NATION'S LAWS PROVIDE FOR...

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May 3, 2016 02:35:36   #
tugboat
 
No right to be offended. This is our country. If you want to live here,adapt to our culture.We are not begging you to come here.(except our muslim president) Preach however you want,but you are a guest here.Don't tell us what offends you.Otherwise leave.

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May 3, 2016 03:17:37   #
Little Ball of Hate
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
DEAR AMERICA: Do You CARE If A Muslim Is OFFENDED By Our National Anthem?

Do you think Muslims have a right to be offended by our National Anthem? Or do you think they should embrace the culture of a country that they move to?

Imagine if the following was happening here in America. What would you do? Check it out…


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>



by Thomas Holmes

Everybody’s favorite militant and oppressive- yet somehow peace-loving- cult of religious immigrants is back in the news. Last week, we reported on things getting serious in the U.K., today it’s all about Great Brit’s former colony of criminals, Australia. Yep, after escaping to Down Under and western freedom, a glut of Islamists now declare that Australia has no right to ask Muslims to sing their national anthem or value the democratic principles of western citizenship.

This, according to Islamic activist group, Hizb-ut-Tahrir, which is campaigning against Australia because they believe the country is enforcing democratic values and a “disputed view” of history which contradicts Islamic beliefs.

“Requiring schoolchildren to sing the national anthem, and the citizenship pledge supporting democratic values, are a part of an oppressive campaign by Australian authorities of ‘forced assimilation’ of the Muslim community”.


– Hizb-ut-Tahrir spokesman, Unthman Badar

Well, if there’s one culture that knows a thing or two about “forced assimilation” it would be Islam. Mr. Badar goes on to insist that this supposed oppression is due to an “exaggerated fear of a security threat”. Yeah, because someone who represents a belief system with a history of violence while giving the finger to democracy from inside your own borders is a totally absurd thing to be concerned about. Personally, I think Mr. Badar is just ticked off because he thinks the government got their indoctrination process started before he could start his.

Getting back to the whole national anthem quibble, Mr. Badar asks, “If you don’t share those values, why should they [Muslim children] be forced to sing it?” Believe it or not, Mr. Badar does veer into a valid question, although he mistakenly thinks it lends credence to his argument. If our western leaders would take a second to remove their heads from a certain sun-less location they might realize what this question actually implies: If Muslims don’t share our values, why would they want to migrate to democratic countries? If they reject democracy in favor of continued Muslim/Sharia culture, are they really “fleeing” from that society at all? Why would we want people like that inside our borders?

Mr. Badar makes another crucial point when he states, “The attempt to reform Islam is doomed to failure.” Truer words have never been spoken. Sharia living is inseparable from Islam as any Muslim who admits to living under the Quran will tell you. The so-called western Muslims are keeping quiet about all these “Bad Muslims” either because they’re in abject denial about true Islam, in outright disobedience – which would be a death sentence – or are secretly supportive. Either way, it’s past time western leaders took a page out of Islam’s dedication and started identifying liberty-centric principles to stand up for exactly what democracy is and… is not. Anyone who wants to stand on our side of the line is welcome, anyone who doesn’t can go back home and rape your own women and embrace global hate.
DEAR AMERICA: Do You CARE If A Muslim Is OFFENDED ... (show quote)


If a tree falls in the forest and kills a muslim, does anyone care? I sure don't.

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May 3, 2016 03:37:26   #
samtheyank
 
JimMe wrote:
I'm a USA Citizen, and I will only speak to Muslims who immigrate to Our USA:

My problem stems from the DemLib-Socialists that kowtow to Islamic Beliefs and change School Programs, Business Programs, and EVEN LAWS to placate Muslims...

Sharia Laws are Islamic Laws... When Religious Laws conflict with Our Nation's Laws, Our Nation's Laws MUST PREVAIL... Because Our USA is founded on the Principle that NO RELIGION WILL DICTATE LAW...

And I STRONGLY BELIEVE that if ANYONE commits crimes AGAINST Our Nation's Laws IN THE NAME OF THEIR RELIGION, they should be arrested, tried, and if found guilty, imprisoned or executed AS OUR NATION'S LAWS PROVIDE FOR...
I'm a USA Citizen, and I will only speak to Muslim... (show quote)


I think we should be very careful not to offend Muslims. If we are in a public place or at a public event, such as a football game, we can suspend playing or singing the National Athem. I think that is a way of showing respect for their religion, Islam, and respect for their culture. In return they will respect us for showing consideration for their beliefs. All the National Athem is a English Drinking tune for drunks. During the Olympic Games, Americans shout USA! USA! This is arrogance and shows other people from other nations that we think we are better than them.

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May 3, 2016 03:53:00   #
Tyster
 
samtheyank wrote:
I think we should be very careful not to offend Muslims. If we are in a public place or at a public event, such as a football game, we can suspend playing or singing the National Athem. I think that is a way of showing respect for their religion, Islam, and respect for their culture. In return they will respect us for showing consideration for their beliefs. All the National Athem is a English Drinking tune for drunks. During the Olympic Games, Americans shout USA! USA! This is arrogance and shows other people from other nations that we think we are better than them.
I think we should be very careful not to offend Mu... (show quote)


If you cannot go to the Olympics and cheer on your team, then why the hell are you there? Do you think the Germans cheer on the Japanese? Or the Chinese root for the English. However, the thread does not pertain to worldwide games... it refers to our national anthem being played at U.S. events. Tough sh*t if that offends you. The saying is, "in Rome do as the Romans do"... and that applies aptly here. Whether you are Muslim or not, if you are not a US citizen, then you should feel under no obligation to sing OUR national anthem. However, if you are a US citizen, then why would you object to either the national anthem or the pledge of allegiance to your adopted country. Possibly it is because Islam is not just a religion as you want to project, but also a secular belief. As such, you do not have 1st Amendment rights anyway.

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May 3, 2016 05:04:21   #
Little Ball of Hate
 
samtheyank wrote:
I think we should be very careful not to offend Muslims. If we are in a public place or at a public event, such as a football game, we can suspend playing or singing the National Athem. I think that is a way of showing respect for their religion, Islam, and respect for their culture. In return they will respect us for showing consideration for their beliefs. All the National Athem is a English Drinking tune for drunks. During the Olympic Games, Americans shout USA! USA! This is arrogance and shows other people from other nations that we think we are better than them.
I think we should be very careful not to offend Mu... (show quote)


Can you really be that stupid?

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May 3, 2016 05:16:51   #
tugboat
 
samtheyank wrote:
I think we should be very careful not to offend Muslims. If we are in a public place or at a public event, such as a football game, we can suspend playing or singing the National Athem. I think that is a way of showing respect for their religion, Islam, and respect for their culture. In return they will respect us for showing consideration for their beliefs. All the National Athem is a English Drinking tune for drunks. During the Olympic Games, Americans shout USA! USA! This is arrogance and shows other people from other nations that we think we are better than them.
I think we should be very careful not to offend Mu... (show quote)


Really? Are you kidding me?

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May 3, 2016 06:28:29   #
Steve700
 
samtheyank wrote:
I think we should be very careful not to offend Muslims. If we are in a public place or at a public event, such as a football game, we can suspend playing or singing the National Athem. I think that is a way of showing respect for their religion, Islam, and respect for their culture. In return they will respect us for showing consideration for their beliefs. All the National Athem is a English Drinking tune for drunks. During the Olympic Games, Americans shout USA! USA! This is arrogance and shows other people from other nations that we think we are better than them.
I think we should be very careful not to offend Mu... (show quote)
What have you got, Stockholm syndrome or something. Islam was set up by Mohammed to disrespect, subjugate and slaughter non-Muslims. It is a supremacist ideology intent on taking over the world (just like Nazi-ism) What is wrong with you that you advocate respect for the religion of the head choppers. Liberals are absolutely crazy & dumber than a box of rocks. Look up The Religion Of Peace.com and see what Mohammed intended and what he set up his religion to be.

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May 3, 2016 06:59:59   #
Sons of Liberty Loc: look behind you!
 
samtheyank wrote:
I think we should be very careful not to offend Muslims. If we are in a public place or at a public event, such as a football game, we can suspend playing or singing the National Athem. I think that is a way of showing respect for their religion, Islam, and respect for their culture. In return they will respect us for showing consideration for their beliefs. All the National Athem is a English Drinking tune for drunks. During the Olympic Games, Americans shout USA! USA! This is arrogance and shows other people from other nations that we think we are better than them.
I think we should be very careful not to offend Mu... (show quote)


Pardon my French, but you are one fucked up individual. Why don't you just leave and take the rest of the muzzies with you.

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May 3, 2016 07:09:11   #
Steve700
 
Sons of Liberty wrote:
Pardon my French, but you are one fucked up individual. Why don't you just leave and take the rest of the muzzies with you.
The crazy liberals even side with the Muslims to go against the conservatives who try to protect them from Muslims. Have you ever noticed how all the different types of evil that have nothing in common with each other will forgo their differences in order to go against Christianity and whatever else is good. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. The Mideast clerics are cost at least saying how they want to destroy the West, but then of course under the liberals.

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May 3, 2016 07:18:26   #
Steve700
 
samtheyank wrote:
I think we should be very careful not to offend Muslims. If we are in a public place or at a public event, such as a football game, we can suspend playing or singing the National Athem. I think that is a way of showing respect for their religion, Islam, and respect for their culture. In return they will respect us for showing consideration for their beliefs. All the National Athem is a English Drinking tune for drunks. During the Olympic Games, Americans shout USA! USA! This is arrogance and shows other people from other nations that we think we are better than them.
I think we should be very careful not to offend Mu... (show quote)

ISLAM:
Islam is Not so much a Religion as it is a Total Way of Life; an
Ideology that includes a militaristic component and a political and
Legal system. Islam is Not Only an Intolerant, Totalitarian
SUPREMICIST Ideology (like Natizism) that Justifies and Sanctifies
Hatred Violence and Murder; it is in fact a Violent Expansionist
Religion that Seeks the Destruction or Subjugation of All Other
Religions, Political Systems, And Cultures. Violence is and has
Always Been an Integral Aspect of Islam. The Qur'an Teaches that
By Refusing to Convert to Islam the Infidel has made " Mischief &
Corruption" in the land and thus is seen as a threat to Islam and
As having Declared War on Allah. They are thus seen as a danger
To Islam and the Muslims must respond to defend Allah and his
"True Religion" - That is: Make War Upon Them. To Subjugate &
Kill for the Sake of Allah is a Duty of Jihad. The Qur'an Gives the
Muslim the Manifest Destiny of World Domination.

Warning: Learning about "Taquiya" & "Abrogation" is essential to understanding Islam before discussions with Muslims.
Learn more about Islam here: Http://www.thereligionofpeace.com

There have been over 28,000 Deadly Islamic Terror Attacks Since 9/11 - Most on their own fellow Muslims, in other countries. Of all the world's religions, Islam is the most demanding of respect while doing the least to earn it. Muslims are told by the Quran that
They are hated victims and are ordained to subjugate & kill for the sake of Allah:

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you and let them find harshness in you and know that Allah is with
Those who keep their duty" Qur'anSura 9:123 -- Just 1 of hundreds of such verses. Unlike Old Testament dictates for slaughter, which were for specific instances (like against people who were doing human sacrifice), those in the Koran are for all times and all places until Allah alone is worshiped.

Mohammed himself said "I have been made victorious with eloquent speech and Terror" -- "Murder of unbelievers is a small mater to us" -- "The blood of Infidels is worth no more than that of a Dog" -- "Fight them until there is no more disbelief and until there is only Islam and Allah alone Is worshiped" (last quote Quran 8:39)

All Muslims lie because they have to. The truth of Islam is absolutely indefensible to the western mind. WAKE UP ALREADY & Stop
Believing the lie that Islam has been hijacked and is really a noble peaceful religion same as any other.

Mohammed was a pedophile, a murderer, a mass murder, a rapist, a thief, a robber, a plunderer of the innocent, an extortionist and a
Slaver who had those who disagreed with him killed. It is important to understand that in Islam Mohammed is held up as the ideal man.
(above Jesus; and he is pretty much worshiped second only to Allah) It is incumbent on all Muslims to to follow his example. In Islamic
Theology, insulting Mohammed (including the truth about him & his religion) calls for the death penalty. I do not insult Mohammed but I do tell the truth about him. There is something very wrong when Muslims find fault with the truth about Mohammed and his religion. However suppression of the truth will lead to our demise as the Europeans experiment in multi-cultural is proving out. It is important to understand that Muslims have more children than Catholics in trying to do their part for Jihad. Islamic theology does not want peace, but only victory. They really have no need for violence, since we Westerners, are not even reproducing our own numbers as we enjoy our "Sexual Freedom" and abort the results. They don't assimilate and within a couple generations, they will win by sheer numbers.

ISLAM:
Islam is Not so much a Religion as it is a Total Way of Life; an
Ideology that includes a militaristic component and a political and
Legal system. Islam is Not Only an Intolerant, Totalitarian
SUPREMICIST Ideology (like Natizism) that Justifies and Sanctifies
Hatred Violence & Murder

Did you know that dogs are bad, in Islam? Mohammed hated dogs, therefor all proper Muslims must do likewise.
Did you know that dogs are bad, in Islam? Mohammed...

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May 3, 2016 07:29:28   #
Sons of Liberty Loc: look behind you!
 
As a dog lover...have two of my own, I did not know this about the muzzies. After viewing that pic...I don't care if one fricken mooslime takes in another breath of air.

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May 3, 2016 08:34:30   #
Sicilianthing
 
JimMe wrote:
I'm a USA Citizen, and I will only speak to Muslims who immigrate to Our USA:

My problem stems from the DemLib-Socialists that kowtow to Islamic Beliefs and change School Programs, Business Programs, and EVEN LAWS to placate Muslims...

Sharia Laws are Islamic Laws... When Religious Laws conflict with Our Nation's Laws, Our Nation's Laws MUST PREVAIL... Because Our USA is founded on the Principle that NO RELIGION WILL DICTATE LAW...

And I STRONGLY BELIEVE that if ANYONE commits crimes AGAINST Our Nation's Laws IN THE NAME OF THEIR RELIGION, they should be arrested, tried, and if found guilty, imprisoned or executed AS OUR NATION'S LAWS PROVIDE FOR...
I'm a USA Citizen, and I will only speak to Muslim... (show quote)


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Getting warmer.... And NO, sadly they are all beholden to Lie N Wait to converge and attack anything outside their Sick Cult...

Therefore they are an Enemy Combatant active or inactive.....

I'm OUT

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May 3, 2016 08:44:49   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Tyster wrote:
If you cannot go to the Olympics and cheer on your team, then why the hell are you there? Do you think the Germans cheer on the Japanese? Or the Chinese root for the English. However, the thread does not pertain to worldwide games... it refers to our national anthem being played at U.S. events. Tough sh*t if that offends you. The saying is, "in Rome do as the Romans do"... and that applies aptly here. Whether you are Muslim or not, if you are not a US citizen, then you should feel under no obligation to sing OUR national anthem. However, if you are a US citizen, then why would you object to either the national anthem or the pledge of allegiance to your adopted country. Possibly it is because Islam is not just a religion as you want to project, but also a secular belief. As such, you do not have 1st Amendment rights anyway.
If you cannot go to the Olympics and cheer on your... (show quote)


And we do have second amendment rights if needed!! PCBS, all of it..Don't like our customs, our traditions, our National Anthem tough sh* it is right!!!! Go home then!

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