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May 2, 2016 11:19:39   #
Jack2014
 
UNCATEGORIZED Bush’s Defense Secretary: Delusional Trump Has No Idea What He’s Talking About
ByJames DeVinnePosted on May 1, 2016

Donald Trump’s feeble attempt at an intelligently-sounding foreign policy speech last week has been recognized across ideological lines as the almost incomprehensible stage-managed populist spectacle that it was. Today, however, the presumptive Republican nominee received scathing criticism from a truly experienced foreign policy hand, the Republican former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates.

Speaking on ABC’s The Week Sunday morning, Gates slammed the hypocrisy and contradictions that defined Trump’s somber, teleprompted speech:

I think based on the speech you’d have somebody who doesn’t understand the difference between a business negotiation and a negotiation with sovereign powers. For example, he, on the one hand, says we need to be a more reliable ally to our friends. And then in the next breath he basically says we’re going to rip up all those burden-sharing agreements that we’ve had over the decades with them and make them go their own way if they don’t pay for everything

Gates, who has worked under every president since Jimmy Carter and is widely considered one of the most knowledgeable and influential foreign policy minds in the nation, went on to denounce Trump on a more fundamental level, taking aim at his arrogance and narcissism:

One of the things that worries me is that he doesn’t appear to listen to people. He believes that he has all the answers, that he’s the smartest man in the room. And I’ve worked for some very different presidents… one of the things they all had in common was a willingness to listen to people who had experience, and then make their own independent judgment. Now, they’ve gone in different directions but they never assumed they had all the answers, and that’s one of the things that troubles me.

To be sure, Trump’s persona is that of a headstrong egomaniac who, certainly in foreign policy, is far out of his depth. His speech on Wednesday, riddled as it was with contradiction and obfuscation, came off as little more than a cynical populist play to mask his utter cluelessness and lack of direction with strident rhetoric and buoyant jingoism.

Besides his paradoxical rhetoric about providing more support to our allies while also insuring they pay their “fair share,” he excoriated President Obama’s failure to launch a war in Syria while condemning his the interventions in Iraq and Libya in the next breath; frequently trotted out his new slogan “America First” to praise the American role in World War II despite the fact that the 1940s America First movement, and indeed the relative isolationism that he is now peddling, opposed American entry into the war; and insisted that “war and aggression will not be [his] first instinct” while praising the nuclear bombing of Japan and stating that he would consider nuking Europe.

Foreign policy veterans from across the political spectrum have criticized Trump’s haphazard and ignorant approach to world affairs, with many saying that they would refuse to work in his administration. It is, however, particularly refreshing to see a Republican expert like Robert Gates, who has even been mentioned as a possible running mate for the Donald, take a stand for reason and dignity over rhetoric. If Trump’s foreign policy speech was a pathetic attempt to sound presidential, it failed miserably, leaving viewers with the sense that he lacks even the most basic understanding of how the world works. To put such a man in the White House would represent a danger to America and to the

Dumber than Palin?
Dumber than Palin?...

Dumber than Cruz and Foolarina combined?
Dumber than Cruz and Foolarina combined?...

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May 2, 2016 11:32:14   #
Airforceone
 
Jack2014 wrote:
UNCATEGORIZED Bush’s Defense Secretary: Delusional Trump Has No Idea What He’s Talking About
ByJames DeVinnePosted on May 1, 2016

Donald Trump’s feeble attempt at an intelligently-sounding foreign policy speech last week has been recognized across ideological lines as the almost incomprehensible stage-managed populist spectacle that it was. Today, however, the presumptive Republican nominee received scathing criticism from a truly experienced foreign policy hand, the Republican former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates.

Speaking on ABC’s The Week Sunday morning, Gates slammed the hypocrisy and contradictions that defined Trump’s somber, teleprompted speech:

I think based on the speech you’d have somebody who doesn’t understand the difference between a business negotiation and a negotiation with sovereign powers. For example, he, on the one hand, says we need to be a more reliable ally to our friends. And then in the next breath he basically says we’re going to rip up all those burden-sharing agreements that we’ve had over the decades with them and make them go their own way if they don’t pay for everything

Gates, who has worked under every president since Jimmy Carter and is widely considered one of the most knowledgeable and influential foreign policy minds in the nation, went on to denounce Trump on a more fundamental level, taking aim at his arrogance and narcissism:

One of the things that worries me is that he doesn’t appear to listen to people. He believes that he has all the answers, that he’s the smartest man in the room. And I’ve worked for some very different presidents… one of the things they all had in common was a willingness to listen to people who had experience, and then make their own independent judgment. Now, they’ve gone in different directions but they never assumed they had all the answers, and that’s one of the things that troubles me.

To be sure, Trump’s persona is that of a headstrong egomaniac who, certainly in foreign policy, is far out of his depth. His speech on Wednesday, riddled as it was with contradiction and obfuscation, came off as little more than a cynical populist play to mask his utter cluelessness and lack of direction with strident rhetoric and buoyant jingoism.

Besides his paradoxical rhetoric about providing more support to our allies while also insuring they pay their “fair share,” he excoriated President Obama’s failure to launch a war in Syria while condemning his the interventions in Iraq and Libya in the next breath; frequently trotted out his new slogan “America First” to praise the American role in World War II despite the fact that the 1940s America First movement, and indeed the relative isolationism that he is now peddling, opposed American entry into the war; and insisted that “war and aggression will not be [his] first instinct” while praising the nuclear bombing of Japan and stating that he would consider nuking Europe.

Foreign policy veterans from across the political spectrum have criticized Trump’s haphazard and ignorant approach to world affairs, with many saying that they would refuse to work in his administration. It is, however, particularly refreshing to see a Republican expert like Robert Gates, who has even been mentioned as a possible running mate for the Donald, take a stand for reason and dignity over rhetoric. If Trump’s foreign policy speech was a pathetic attempt to sound presidential, it failed miserably, leaving viewers with the sense that he lacks even the most basic understanding of how the world works. To put such a man in the White House would represent a danger to America and to the
UNCATEGORIZED Bush’s Defense Secretary: Delus... (show quote)


Excellent post born out of actual facts good luck because the insults are coming. They will not post on your comments they will insult you. But please don't stop your research these people need to be exposed for the fraud they spread. I just posted a new topic (THE BENGAHZI SAGA) please read it's more fraud and now these people are going to jail.

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May 2, 2016 11:35:25   #
cesspool jones Loc: atlanta
 
tdsrnest wrote:
Excellent post born out of actual facts good luck because the insults are coming. They will not post on your comments they will insult you. But please don't stop your research these people need to be exposed for the fraud they spread. I just posted a new topic (THE BENGAHZI SAGA) please read it's more fraud and now these people are going to jail.


a fraud you say...oh my, oh myyyyyyyyyy!

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May 2, 2016 11:39:11   #
Ricko Loc: Florida
 
Jack2014-any one of those pictured above would be infinitely better than the queen of the AKC which you idolize. Say hello to President Trump !!! Good Luck America !!!

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May 2, 2016 11:53:43   #
Jack2014
 
cesspool jones wrote:
a fraud you say...oh my, oh myyyyyyyyyy!


Cesspool, quit trying to pull the rest of us into your crap. Try to think ahead or keeping you're head above the pisser.

Get the point,er, the sludge
Get the point,er, the sludge...

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May 2, 2016 12:45:49   #
CowboyMilt
 
tdsrnest wrote:
Excellent post born out of actual facts good luck because the insults are coming. They will not post on your comments they will insult you. But please don't stop your research these people need to be exposed for the fraud they spread. I just posted a new topic (THE BENGAHZI SAGA) please read it's more fraud and now these people are going to jail.


I DON'T AGREE WITH YOU, BUT YOU HAVE YOUR RIGHT TO YOUR OPINION. I BELIEVE IN DONALD TRUMP'S FOREIGN POLICY SPEECH AS HE GAVE IT!

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May 2, 2016 12:53:00   #
kburns50
 
Jack aka nickname Dick. Not only are you stupid but you're long winded
as well. Can't hide progressive liberal stupidity under a new moniker.
Say Hi to Saul please.

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May 2, 2016 13:00:20   #
Jack2014
 
CowboyMilt wrote:
I DON'T AGREE WITH YOU, BUT YOU HAVE YOUR RIGHT TO YOUR OPINION. I BELIEVE IN DONALD TRUMP'S FOREIGN POLICY SPEECH AS HE GAVE IT!


Trumpity S foreign policy right now revolves around Slovenia and finding a new wife.

Is he going to bomb Bushies home in Dallas? After all he founded ISIS.
Is he going to bomb Bushies home in Dallas? After ...

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May 2, 2016 13:06:23   #
Ricko Loc: Florida
 
Cowboymilt-I find it ironic that those who have been in politics all of their adult lives criticize a man for giving a foreign policy speech that is not perfect or up to their standards. Don't know who wrote the speech but it was somewhat disconnected because he tried to cover too many points in a single speech. Were he a professional politician, the same material would have required three or four speeches each of which would have been designed to make the speaker look good and increase his/her time in front of the cameras. This was Trump's first foreign policy speech and I did not have any problem understanding what he meant. I can accept a less than perfect speech as opposed to the disastrous foreign policy, or lack thereof, such as we have now. You can bet that Trump would not have allowed Iran access to 150billion under any circumstance. Also, Trump, who watches the bottom line in the conduct of business ,will not allow the USA to continue to be fleeced because that his how it has been done in the past. I have great respect for Mr. Gates, but his performance was not always stellar and without flaws. Trump has plenty of time to get up to speed on government functions. The same people who entrusted the Security of the Country and gave the top job to a Community Organizer who never held a private sector job worry about the capabilities of a successful businessman who has enterprises ,and is well known ,all over the world ?? This is nothing more than establishment BS and they chose Gates to deliver the message. If elected, Trump will be more successful in the conduct of foreign policy and other government functions than Hillary or Bernie could ever hope to be. The man has a track record while they merely left tracks. Good Luck America !!!

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May 2, 2016 13:33:05   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
Jack2014 wrote:
UNCATEGORIZED Bush’s Defense Secretary: Delusional Trump Has No Idea What He’s Talking About
ByJames DeVinnePosted on May 1, 2016

Donald Trump’s feeble attempt at an intelligently-sounding foreign policy speech last week has been recognized across ideological lines as the almost incomprehensible stage-managed populist spectacle that it was. Today, however, the presumptive Republican nominee received scathing criticism from a truly experienced foreign policy hand, the Republican former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates.

Speaking on ABC’s The Week Sunday morning, Gates slammed the hypocrisy and contradictions that defined Trump’s somber, teleprompted speech:

I think based on the speech you’d have somebody who doesn’t understand the difference between a business negotiation and a negotiation with sovereign powers. For example, he, on the one hand, says we need to be a more reliable ally to our friends. And then in the next breath he basically says we’re going to rip up all those burden-sharing agreements that we’ve had over the decades with them and make them go their own way if they don’t pay for everything

Gates, who has worked under every president since Jimmy Carter and is widely considered one of the most knowledgeable and influential foreign policy minds in the nation, went on to denounce Trump on a more fundamental level, taking aim at his arrogance and narcissism:

One of the things that worries me is that he doesn’t appear to listen to people. He believes that he has all the answers, that he’s the smartest man in the room. And I’ve worked for some very different presidents… one of the things they all had in common was a willingness to listen to people ho had experience, and then make their own independent judgment. Now, they’ve gone in different directions but they never assumed they had all the answers, and that’s one of the things that troubles me.

To be sure, Trump’s persona is that of a headstrong egomaniac who, certainly in foreign policy, is far out of his depth. His speech on Wednesday, riddled as it was with contradiction and obfuscation, came off as little more than a cynical populist play to mask his utter cluelessness and lack of direction with strident rhetoric and buoyant jingoism.

Besides his paradoxical rhetoric about providing more support to our allies while also insuring they pay their “fair share,” he excoriated President Obama’s failure to launch a war in Syria while condemning his the interventions in Iraq and Libya in the next breath; frequently trotted out his new slogan “America First” to praise the American role in World War II despite the fact that the 1940s America First movement, and indeed the relative isolationism that he is now peddling, opposed American entry into the war; and insisted that “war and aggression will not be [his] first instinct” while praising the nuclear bombing of Japan and stating that he would consider nuking Europe.

Foreign policy veterans from across the political spectrum have criticized Trump’s haphazard and ignorant approach to world affairs, with many saying that they would refuse to work in his administration. It is, however, particularly refreshing to see a Republican expert like Robert Gates, who has even been mentioned as a possible running mate for the Donald, take a stand for reason and dignity over rhetoric. If Trump’s foreign policy speech was a pathetic attempt to sound presidential, it failed miserably, leaving viewers with the sense that he lacks even the most basic understanding of how the world works. To put such a man in the White House would represent a danger to America and to the
UNCATEGORIZED Bush’s Defense Secretary: Delus... (show quote)


An unknown quantity is preferable to a known disaster.

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May 3, 2016 05:46:24   #
Hemiman Loc: Communist California
 
Don't worry Jack Mr Trump will take care of you and the rest of the Jackass liberals.It's well known liberals prefer their leaders as corrupt as possible but you will just have to get used to a man that follows the laws of the United States.

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May 3, 2016 05:52:03   #
Hemiman Loc: Communist California
 
Jack2014 wrote:
Trumpity S foreign policy right now revolves around Slovenia and finding a new wife.


Jack this will come as a shock to you but Bush is not the President anymore,it's some corrupt dumb ass named Ovomit.Now that you are old and stupid versus what you were ,young and stupid,you have to try harder to remember who is pres.

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May 3, 2016 07:20:12   #
fullspinzoo
 
Jack2014 wrote:
UNCATEGORIZED Bush’s Defense Secretary: Delusional Trump Has No Idea What He’s Talking About
ByJames DeVinnePosted on May 1, 2016

Donald Trump’s feeble attempt at an intelligently-sounding foreign policy speech last week has been recognized across ideological lines as the almost incomprehensible stage-managed populist spectacle that it was. Today, however, the presumptive Republican nominee received scathing criticism from a truly experienced foreign policy hand, the Republican former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates.

Speaking on ABC’s The Week Sunday morning, Gates slammed the hypocrisy and contradictions that defined Trump’s somber, teleprompted speech:

I think based on the speech you’d have somebody who doesn’t understand the difference between a business negotiation and a negotiation with sovereign powers. For example, he, on the one hand, says we need to be a more reliable ally to our friends. And then in the next breath he basically says we’re going to rip up all those burden-sharing agreements that we’ve had over the decades with them and make them go their own way if they don’t pay for everything

Gates, who has worked under every president since Jimmy Carter and is widely considered one of the most knowledgeable and influential foreign policy minds in the nation, went on to denounce Trump on a more fundamental level, taking aim at his arrogance and narcissism:

One of the things that worries me is that he doesn’t appear to listen to people. He believes that he has all the answers, that he’s the smartest man in the room. And I’ve worked for some very different presidents… one of the things they all had in common was a willingness to listen to people who had experience, and then make their own independent judgment. Now, they’ve gone in different directions but they never assumed they had all the answers, and that’s one of the things that troubles me.

To be sure, Trump’s persona is that of a headstrong egomaniac who, certainly in foreign policy, is far out of his depth. His speech on Wednesday, riddled as it was with contradiction and obfuscation, came off as little more than a cynical populist play to mask his utter cluelessness and lack of direction with strident rhetoric and buoyant jingoism.

Besides his paradoxical rhetoric about providing more support to our allies while also insuring they pay their “fair share,” he excoriated President Obama’s failure to launch a war in Syria while condemning his the interventions in Iraq and Libya in the next breath; frequently trotted out his new slogan “America First” to praise the American role in World War II despite the fact that the 1940s America First movement, and indeed the relative isolationism that he is now peddling, opposed American entry into the war; and insisted that “war and aggression will not be [his] first instinct” while praising the nuclear bombing of Japan and stating that he would consider nuking Europe.

Foreign policy veterans from across the political spectrum have criticized Trump’s haphazard and ignorant approach to world affairs, with many saying that they would refuse to work in his administration. It is, however, particularly refreshing to see a Republican expert like Robert Gates, who has even been mentioned as a possible running mate for the Donald, take a stand for reason and dignity over rhetoric. If Trump’s foreign policy speech was a pathetic attempt to sound presidential, it failed miserably, leaving viewers with the sense that he lacks even the most basic understanding of how the world works. To put such a man in the White House would represent a danger to America and to the
UNCATEGORIZED Bush’s Defense Secretary: Delus... (show quote)

Or take Hilary Clinton, The Pathological Liar https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TmNy5SPcj8 Comparing Trump to Hillary -- Hillary voted "Worst Ethics Violator of 2015" by gov't watchdog grp. http://dailycaller.com/2015/12/22/watchdog-names-hillary-worst-ethics-violator-of-2015/

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May 3, 2016 07:34:34   #
fullspinzoo
 
tdsrnest wrote:
Excellent post born out of actual facts good luck because the insults are coming. They will not post on your comments they will insult you. But please don't stop your research these people need to be exposed for the fraud they spread. I just posted a new topic (THE BENGAHZI SAGA) please read it's more fraud and now these people are going to jail.

Here's a post born out of lots of facts. Not insults, no calling anybody a c..ksucker, and don't worry, I won't stop my research. If anyone had doubts about Hillary watch this FACTUAL you tube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TmNy5SPcj8

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May 3, 2016 09:07:32   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
CowboyMilt wrote:
I DON'T AGREE WITH YOU, BUT YOU HAVE YOUR RIGHT TO YOUR OPINION. I BELIEVE IN DONALD TRUMP'S FOREIGN POLICY SPEECH AS HE GAVE IT!
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I agree with you. Trump knows who to get to do what he wants to accomplish just as he did in that incident with the ice skating rink. He recognizes his limitations which is refreshing in politics. His goal to get some of these countries living off our largesse to pay for what we do is brilliant. I'm tired of endless overseas wars that only line the pockets of the miiltary contractors.

And BTW, in case some of these people haven't noticed it's been under Democrats that the foundations of 'making the world safe for democracy' that's been the excuse for our interventionism evre since. Democrats have been the prime instigators. Oh, South Africa, Viet-Nam, Guatemala, the Dominican Republic, etc. have to fall in line with a system like we dtermine. Sorry, if their people don't like what thay've got, let them change it.

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