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Mar 26, 2016 15:37:57   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
I always thought the Stones were cool and here they are playing a free concert in Cuba. Super cool.

http://media.urbanpost.it/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/The-Rolling-Stones.jpg

Things are really looking up for that country. Breaking them free of the chains we kept them in for so long will probably be one of the things Obama will be most remembered for, especially in Cuba.

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Mar 26, 2016 15:48:22   #
mongo Loc: TEXAS
 
straightUp wrote:
I always thought the Stones were cool and here they are playing a free concert in Cuba. Super cool.

http://media.urbanpost.it/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/The-Rolling-Stones.jpg

Things are really looking up for that country. Breaking them free of the chains we kept them in for so long will probably be one of the things Obama will be most remembered for, especially in Cuba.



I must agree. Breaking the chains on communistic countries has always been the american dream. We can sit down and have a couple of cervasas with them, then get escorted to our new diggs...in prison. Maybe you don't remember who they support or what they did to all of their educators. Before Castro, it was a resort country that made money on tourism. That changed after the coup to terrorism. They can keep him for all I care, he's worthless anyways.

SEMPER FI

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Mar 26, 2016 15:57:29   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
mongo wrote:
I must agree. Breaking the chains on communistic countries has always been the american dream. We can sit down and have a couple of cervasas with them, then get escorted to our new diggs...in prison. Maybe you don't remember who they support or what they did to all of their educators. Before Castro, it was a resort country that made money on tourism. That changed after the coup to terrorism. They can keep him for all I care, he's worthless anyways.

SEMPER FI



Yep keep Obama in Cuba, he is a filthy dog anyway!

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Mar 26, 2016 15:59:00   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
straightUp wrote:
I always thought the Stones were cool and here they are playing a free concert in Cuba. Super cool.

http://media.urbanpost.it/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/The-Rolling-Stones.jpg

Things are really looking up for that country. Breaking them free of the chains we kept them in for so long will probably be one of the things Obama will be most remembered for, especially in Cuba.


Stones..have pity on them burned out old farts! Wheelchair material.

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Mar 26, 2016 16:06:30   #
Hemiman Loc: Communist California
 
America Only wrote:
Yep keep Obama in Cuba, he is a filthy dog anyway!


Obama really showed them the way,he dressed up his pig wife/husband in three thousand dollar dresses in a country blessed with a normal monthly income of about twenty dollars a month.A family could survive for six years on what he/she spent on her dresses.

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Mar 26, 2016 17:23:06   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
mongo wrote:
I must agree. Breaking the chains on communistic countries has always been the american dream.

Well, that's always been the dream of the NWO... (The American dream has always been whatever Americans are being sold at the time.)

But Cuba is still wearing those chains my friend... Nothing's changed there, they are still essentially communist, the people there still get free medical and free education etc. The chains that have actually been broken are the sanctions that we forged where we would not let ANY country in the world trade with Cuba. Any country that did would not be allowed to trade with us and our 3.5 million consumers.

mongo wrote:

We can sit down and have a couple of cervasas with them, then get escorted to our new diggs...in prison.

Why? The Stones didn't go to prison. I'm sure they had a few beers too.

mongo wrote:

Maybe you don't remember who they support or what they did to all of their educators.

Why don't you fill me in?

mongo wrote:

Before Castro, it was a resort country that made money on tourism.

They *did* make a lot of money on tourism, but there was a lot of other fortunes being made there too, from things like sugar and oil. That's why the U.S. tried to control their industries after the Spanish left. Did you forget that part or did you miss it entirely? The Cubans were screwed. They fought the Spanish to be free and they thought the U.S. was helping them. They even wrote a constitution modeled after ours, but Teddy Roosevelt basically said... "Screw that shit. I got friends that want to own your sugar so we're going to make you another banana republic controlled by our "free-market" empire and if you don't like it... say hello to my Big Stick.


mongo wrote:

That changed after the coup to terrorism. They can keep him for all I care, he's worthless anyways.

Well... just so you know... the Castro that led that "coup" as you call it (actually it was a popular revolution but whatever) yeah... he's dead. So... I guess update your mental notes on that one. The guy in charge now is his brother.

Yes, Pre-Castro days were great - for the relatively few privileged folks with connections to big money; but for the vast majority of Cubans, it was pretty screwed up and that led to the same animosity among the masses that led to every communist revolution there ever was.

I know a few Cubans myself and they hold a special distaste for Castro. But both of them come from families that had some Pre-Castro connection to the affluent class, which explains why they're here and not in Cuba. I have a Nicaraguan friend with the exact same kind of story.

I know you've been trained to hate the whole Castro thing... Not sure what to say about that other than the fact that I can tell. Maybe one day you'll see things differently.

mongo wrote:

SEMPER FI

Peace and love

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Mar 26, 2016 18:01:10   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
America Only wrote:
Stones..have pity on them burned out old farts! Wheelchair material.

We all get there if we don't get killed first. The difference between you and them is that they have model wives, massive fortunes and the admiration of multiple generations. What do you have? A six pack in a refrigerator and gay-sex magazine in the bathroom?

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Mar 26, 2016 18:01:53   #
J Anthony Loc: Connecticut
 
straightUp wrote:
Peace and love


Many Americans are either willfully ignoring or just plain have no idea what their government and plutocracy has wrought through-out Latin America over the last century. I thought it was pretty repugnant myself that Obama would have the nerve to lecture Cuba on democracy and human rights.

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Mar 26, 2016 18:03:08   #
J Anthony Loc: Connecticut
 
straightUp wrote:
We all get there if we don't get killed first. The difference between you and them is that they have model wives, massive fortunes and the admiration of multiple generations. What do you have? A six pack in a refrigerator?


Ha!😝

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Mar 26, 2016 18:17:47   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
J Anthony wrote:
Many Americans are either willfully ignoring or just plain have no idea what their government and plutocracy has wrought through-out Latin America over the last century.

I agree.

J Anthony wrote:

I thought it was pretty repugnant myself that Obama would have the nerve to lecture Cuba on democracy and human rights.

Yeah, I had a hard time with that too to be honest. I don't think anyone who is a part of U.S foreign policy has much of a leg to stand on when it comes to lecturing other countries on democracy OR human rights.

I give credit to Obama for his involvement in lifting sanctions while facing down the rabid response from the right... I think it was the decent thing to do and I guess it created the sort of historical significance that called for *someone* at the event to say *something* about human rights. I think Mick Jagger could have done that without the hypocrisy, but I also think the lecture was more for the American audience than anyone else.

I also acknowledge Obama's continued support of morally questionable polices, but at the same time he HAS in fact been critical of our own human rights violations ...so I'm just gonna give him a mulligan on this one.

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Mar 26, 2016 18:23:26   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
Are you taking drugs or is this natural? Cuba still has those chains.


straightUp wrote:
I always thought the Stones were cool and here they are playing a free concert in Cuba. Super cool.

http://media.urbanpost.it/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/The-Rolling-Stones.jpg

Things are really looking up for that country. Breaking them free of the chains we kept them in for so long will probably be one of the things Obama will be most remembered for, especially in Cuba.

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Mar 26, 2016 18:32:18   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
bmac32 wrote:
Are you taking drugs or is this natural? Cuba still has those chains.

Does Omega-3 and ibuprofin count as drugs ;)

Yes, Cuba still has some chains... I even mentioned that when responding to mongo. Even Obama himself has indicated numerous times that there is still a long road ahead.

But the chains that Obama did break them free of were huge and very significant. Certainly enough to celebrate.

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Mar 26, 2016 18:46:50   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
Wouldn't be holding any barn dances just yet, the Cuban people have a very long road, remember Castro is still in control.



straightUp wrote:
Does Omega-3 and ibuprofin count as drugs ;)

Yes, Cuba still has some chains... I even mentioned that when responding to mongo. Even Obama himself has indicated numerous times that there is still a long road ahead.

But the chains that Obama did break them free of were huge and very significant. Certainly enough to celebrate.

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Mar 26, 2016 20:21:18   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
bmac32 wrote:
Wouldn't be holding any barn dances just yet, the Cuban people have a very long road, remember Castro is still in control.

Why wait for a perfect world to have a barn dance? Cuban families can reunite now. Family members can visit each other. That alone is worth celebrating... don't be such a sourpuss.

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Mar 26, 2016 20:31:14   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
As long as a Castro is running the show there will no dance for the people. You think things are bad here for poor, talk to Cubans whom haven't been here long.


straightUp wrote:
Why wait for a perfect world to have a barn dance?

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