CounterRevolutionary

From Senator Mike Lee of Utah:
"This is how it happens.
Last night while you were sleeping, the Senate voted to steal $150 billion dollars from the Social Security Trust Fund. I joined 34 of my colleagues in a vote to prevent this raid. I would like to thank Senator Rand Paul for leading the fight to protect Social Security from the thieves in Washington, who seem to think that if they steal from the American people at night while they are sleeping that they will get away with it. I was proud to vote with Senator Paul on his point of order that would have protected Social Security, and I ask you to help me shine a light on what Washington has tried to hide from you in the darkness of night.

If everyone who sees this message shares it, it will reach millions of Americans. As someone who has been fighting for years to reform our broken government in Washington, I know it is exhausting, I sympathize with your frustration, and I understand your impatience. But don't give up. Washington wants you to give up.

Just remember, a vote to raid social security in the middle of the night in a desperate attempt to perpetuate an unsustainable spending addiction isn't a sight of strength, it is a sign of weakness."

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Actually, it was 3AM this morning the raid took place. If ever there were a reason to PRIVATIZE Social Security and Medicare, this is it.

Congress has broken their promise, and ripped us seniors off. Fire the Government.

Senator Rand Paul filibustered until 2AM this morning, an exercise in futility, where the Senate joined with the House to "borrow from Peter to pay Paul," raid Social Security and pay down a myriad of other bureaucratic debts. The debt ceiling was raised as high as the sky until 2017.

Seniors, this is your money taken out of your wages automatically, by the IRS under the assumption that YOU are too incompetent to manage your own finances! Congress has currently rung up an $18 Trillion national debt coupled with $211 debt in unfunded Entitlement liabilities. There is no "Trust Fund" and Congress ahs spent every penny of FICA tax the minute the Treasury raked it in.

Seniors are too incompetent to manage their own money?

Gimme a break!

There are 40 million of us seniors right now. Vote the crooked congressional bums out! We have clout.

The IRS must be completely abolished and replaced with a Fair / Flat Tax. Seniors should have a choice in keeping their current benefit plans, or opt out and join young people with new private investment accounts and opportunities. We need to study the success of Chile's semi-privatizing their Entitlements, whereas today, they collect double what American seniors collect.

Go to YouTube and review the Republican candidate debate. Note Huckabee, Rubio, Christie and Paul addressed the budget and Social Security reform.

Oakisland4U

Everything that the Federal Government does cost the tax people of the USA twenty times over . They could not run nothing to make a profit , it's always spend more and take in less year after year . No one US Congress has any sense in spending less money !

trucksterbud

Sad truth to what is happening by the largest criminal cabal in history. But equally as sad is the fact that the same criminal cabal - from Washington, District of Criminals - is the fact they are connected to the very logistics machine that keeps the fact of "The Other Side Of The Books" hidden from the people - on purpose.

Visit - www.CAFR1.com to learn more about the real hidden wealth of "Governments".....

A simple truth here - one hidden from the American people on purpose - is that the "government" we think of out of D.C. (District of Corruption) is not a government, but a municipal corporation. With the same obligations as any municipal corporation. This same MUNICIPAL CORPORATION that is in reality worth $117 TRILLION (ya, you read that right) is crying the blues about needing to raid a fund setup on behalf of and for 'the people' (does not include those in the halls of congress, as in the early days most congressmen were wealthy landowners / business owners and could afford their own retirement)...

Plain and simple fact - ANY POLITICIAN VOTING FOR OR CAUGHT RAIDING SOCIAL SECURITY HAS COMMITTED AN ACT OF TREASON AGAINST THE VERY PEOPLE THEY / HE / SHE HAS TAKEN AN OATH TO WORK FOR....!!!

For any interested, Sicilianthing did a blog about BANKSTERS and the United States Inc. He somehow got ahold of a piece that myself and some others put together from several sites (thank you Sicilianthing for posting it again) that explained how a lot of the present day scam works. Its in here on the pages of OPP somewhere, I've seen and read it.

Basically, taking from the information presented by Walter Burien on CAFR1, all taxation could be retired - eliminated, and the credit side profits of the "CORPORATIONS" could be used to supply the needs of the government - to serve the people. But this has not happened due to the HUGE amount of $$$$ MONEY $$$$ involved.

Incedentially, the piece that I helped to co-author was titled - About The United States Incorporated ....

The link is provided below.

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ceramicsmom

Senior citizens should all get together and sue the Govt. and see who stands with them. A BIG class action suit aganst the Feds would bring up a lot of attention to what is going on. Come on all you retires, get together and do this to stop this horrible group of people who think they can get big raises and take away our prepaid allotments just like that. We shouldnt stand for it and lets dont. Make them get rid of all the "freebies" being given away with OUR tax money and our livlehood taken away from us.

trucksterbud

Now you're getting the idea. It is a valid idea, a do-able idea, and every one of the scum who voted for it should serve life sentences for fraud, embezzlement, extortion - and whatever else will stick. Along with that, they should have to repay the amount they swindled out of the Social Security fund from their own pockets.

trucksterbud

Oh, one more thing, to add salt to the wound - if you hadn't noticed - there will be NO Social Security raises this year. According to congress, Social Security funds just aren't there. Imagine that. Really, I wonder whose fault that is...???

CounterRevolutionary

So how do you propose we get that money back? Our money!

CounterRevolutionary

Ceramic Mom, a group of citizens and state legislators, ALEC (American Legislative Exchange Council), are organizing to pressure a minimum of 34 states to call for a Convention of States, or COS to get our fiscal house in order. Calling a COS is allowed under Article V, Section 1 of the US Constitution if the federal government fails to serve the States.

There are 3 big items on the agenda:
1) Pass a Balanced Budget Amendment to Constitution
2) Rein in the bureaucracies (there are over 600 federal bureaucracies, mostly a waste of money. Every 3 years, they get a congressional review and booted out if useless.)
3) Term limits for congressmen (12 years) No more career politicians.

See ALEC:
http://www.alec.org/?s=Convention+of+states
"To call an Article V Convention limited to proposing amendments to that will impose fiscal restraints on the federal government; limit the power and jurisdiction of the federal government and limit the terms of office for federal officials."

We are limited to the topics proposed to our state legislatures by ALEC's laws for Delegates prohibiting a 'runaway convention':
"Resolution for Limitations on Authority of state Delegates to a ‘Convention for Proposing Amendments’ under Article V of the US Constitution."

If we can get 34 states on board to call for this Convention of States, and next, have 38 states ratify these Amendments, we will have achieved what Washington DC has not, or will not do.

We need as many signatures on petitions to all 50 state legislatures to make this call for a COS.
You might consider signing your name on the Conventionofstates.com petition website and pass the information along to friends. We would be so grateful.
Thanks for your input.
http://www.conventionofstates.com/

CounterRevolutionary

True. And, guess what. HHS and the IRS have partnered to determine if we seniors are senile, incapable of handling our own financial affairs and seek financial consultation. They are also applying the same psychological analysis to veterans needing financial consultation. This is a new category of "mental illness" and we must all be disarmed and placed on the police watch list. No kidding!

Under these standards, the entire Federal Government, $18 trillion in debt and raising the debt ceiling yesterday morning, is not only nuts, but needs to be incarcerated.

CounterRevolutionary

Please read my last post to Ceramic Mom for info on the Convention of States to be called to reign in the federal government's abuse of power.

okie don

'Tis a bit Hypocritical to say Nope, No COLA's, no money there, mover along and steal 150 Billion from the fund!!!

PeterS

Much of public debt is there because congress raided SS. This is nothing new and why SS taxes were raised back in the 80's. I mean what was congress supposed to do--have a great big pile of money that they just sit on? It was never going to happen and all that matters is if someone cashes the check they send you. When that ceases to happen then we will have something to worry about.

Now if this is just a move to privatize SS--how many times has government defaulted vs private banks? My suggestion is that if you are really worried that whatever you tithe your churches start stuffing into mattresses. And even though it won't be worth anything when government melts down at least you will feel better up till then...

okie don

Buy Silver...

PeterS

Make sure it's sterling. Nothing is a bigger pain than to have to go into the vault and spend days on end polishing silver. By the time I get to the end I just have to start over again...sigh...

JMHO Loc: Utah

First, I am not for this raid on the SS Trust Fund, and I am for paying interest on SS Trust funds at prevailing rates. And, under LBJ, the Democrats should never have been allowed to take SS funds out of the lock box and put them in the general fund. Democrats always say they are looking out for senior citizens and the poor, when in fact they regularly stick it to these two groups.

This $150B removed from the Trust Fund is being transferred to another SS fund, the SS Disability Fund, which lately has been referred to as the new welfare program. Since unemployed workers, who have long exhausted their unemployment benefits, have turned to claiming a disability (and the rules are pretty loose) and collecting SS Disability payments. This disability fund in the past had collected more money than paid in, and had a surplus. Over the seven years of the Obama reign, that fund is now paying out far more than taking in, and has a projected shorfall of $256B. So, to shore that fund up, thus the transfer of $150B from the Trust Fund. I'm not saying it's right, just explaining why it is happening. Currently $885B goes into the Trust Fund annually, from the budget, and the Trust Fund has a shortfall of $14.5T of unfunded liabilities.

BTW, concerning this fictitious U.S. Incorporated crap, where did you come up with this ridiculous $117T worth number? The whole wealth of the entire world is estimated at $200T, so where did this number come from? Just sounds like more of that wacky conspiracy theory crap to me.