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Jun 25, 2015 13:28:27   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Once again, seething conservatives find themselves on the loosing side of better judgement as the Supreme Court upholds the ACA (6-3). I'm sure they will try again, but as many commentators are pointing out, they might have better luck if they actually come up with a better idea. We all know, the ACA is far from perfect, even Obama knows this, but it's not a bad start - certainly better than what we had before and it seems every month more and more Americans are starting to agree.

So maybe crybaby politics isn't the answer. Maybe the answer is actually to provide better options instead of appealing the the fear and ignorance of an increasingly marginalized demographic.

In the meantime... BIG smile on MY face right now. :)

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Jun 25, 2015 13:34:54   #
Unclet Loc: Amarillo, Tx
 
straightUp wrote:
Once again, seething conservatives find themselves on the loosing side of better judgement as the Supreme Court upholds the ACA (6-3). I'm sure they will try again, but as many commentators are pointing out, they might have better luck if they actually come up with a better idea. We all know, the ACA is far from perfect, even Obama knows this, but it's not a bad start - certainly better than what we had before and it seems every month more and more Americans are starting to agree.

So maybe crybaby politics isn't the answer. Maybe the answer is actually to provide better options instead of appealing the the fear and ignorance of an increasingly marginalized demographic.

In the meantime... BIG smile on MY face right now. :)
Once again, seething conservatives find themselves... (show quote)


Could be its not a case of who is right and who is wrong, there is enough of that to go around. Can we afford to continue to subsidize all these folks, I think not. When the money runs out, where and to whom do we turn? Will you be smiling then? I agree, it is not perfect, but it certainly is not as good as it was prior to its existence.

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Jun 25, 2015 13:45:45   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
It could be that it is here to stay, and we're all screwed. Well, at least until Obamacare destroys private healthcare and we're put on a government rationed healthcare. Then we're screwed worse.

And remember.. Obama said this was a way to get to 'single-payer', which is liberalspeak for Full Solviet Socialism.

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Jun 25, 2015 13:45:46   #
UncleJesse Loc: Hazzard Co, GA
 
interpretive jiggery-pokery federal exchanges count as state exchanges but only for purposes of tax credits that never go to the citizen but to corporations.

congratulations straightUp and enjoy your day with your celebration but hope you libs work with conservatives to fix this thing


straightUp wrote:
Once again, seething conservatives find themselves on the loosing side of better judgement as the Supreme Court upholds the ACA (6-3). I'm sure they will try again, but as many commentators are pointing out, they might have better luck if they actually come up with a better idea. We all know, the ACA is far from perfect, even Obama knows this, but it's not a bad start - certainly better than what we had before and it seems every month more and more Americans are starting to agree.

So maybe crybaby politics isn't the answer. Maybe the answer is actually to provide better options instead of appealing the the fear and ignorance of an increasingly marginalized demographic.

In the meantime... BIG smile on MY face right now. :)
Once again, seething conservatives find themselves... (show quote)

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Jun 25, 2015 13:47:41   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
UncleJesse wrote:
interpretive jiggery-pokery federal exchanges count as state exchanges but only for purposes of tax credits that never go to the citizen but to corporations.

congratulations straightUp and enjoy your day with your celebration but hope you libs work with conservatives to fix this thing

The only fix liberals want is to get rid of the freedoms we still have in healthcare.

They're all on board for 'single payer' (IOW - Socialism)

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Jun 25, 2015 13:52:29   #
Unclet Loc: Amarillo, Tx
 
Super Dave wrote:
The only fix liberals want is to get rid of the freedoms we still have in healthcare.

They're all on board for 'single payer' (IOW - Socialism)


Scalia, Thomas, and Alito should be put in quarantine until they learn to speak up before a decision is made. The rest should be whipped through the streets like the political lapdogs that they are. All should be replaced, by working folks who have to live with the decisions that they make.

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Jun 25, 2015 13:55:12   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
This is politically better for the GOP.. But it sucks for America.

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Jun 25, 2015 13:55:44   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Super Dave wrote:
The only fix liberals want is to get rid of the freedoms we still have in healthcare.

They're all on board for 'single payer' (IOW - Socialism)


I think that was the intention from the beginning. single payer with the government deciding who is worthy of receiving services. don't be surprised if the government says LGBTQ come first, then single mothers as long as they are atheists , and at the bottom of the list all Christians and Jews who actually try to live up to the religion. Of course, those over 60 and those under 10 will be the first to go, us old folks because we cannot work as hard, and those under 10 because they do not serve any useful purpose except as sexual playthings or as Soylent Green Brings a new meaning to a "poorboy sandwich" doesn't it?

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Jun 25, 2015 13:58:02   #
UncleJesse Loc: Hazzard Co, GA
 
hope they're not that dumb. at least some corporations can seek profit in this even though the socialists regulate how much profit they can make. single payer would outlaw the business of insurance

Super Dave wrote:
The only fix liberals want is to get rid of the freedoms we still have in healthcare.

They're all on board for 'single payer' (IOW - Socialism)

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Jun 25, 2015 14:02:54   #
Ricko Loc: Florida
 
straightUp wrote:
Once again, seething conservatives find themselves on the loosing side of better judgement as the Supreme Court upholds the ACA (6-3). I'm sure they will try again, but as many commentators are pointing out, they might have better luck if they actually come up with a better idea. We all know, the ACA is far from perfect, even Obama knows this, but it's not a bad start - certainly better than what we had before and it seems every month more and more Americans are starting to agree.

So maybe crybaby politics isn't the answer. Maybe the answer is actually to provide better options instead of appealing the the fear and ignorance of an increasingly marginalized demographic.

In the meantime... BIG smile on MY face right now. :)
Once again, seething conservatives find themselves... (show quote)


StraightUP-if you knew anything about the ACA you would sing a different tune. The only people who benefit are those being subsidized and we were already doing that through medicaid. For those on the receiving end its wonderful news but the premium payer will see his/her rates go up so that the subsidies can continue. The ACA is planned disaster. I can understand why the SCOTUS voted the way it did and it had nothing to do with whether the law was correctly interpreted. It had all to do with the 8.7 million who received subsidies which they would have to pay back had the court voted the way the law was written and intended. So they protected those people for the time being by totally ignoring what the law stated . The law is unsustainable and will crash and burn in due time. The SCOTUS is voting itself out of existence. Even a lay person can understand exactly what that law specifies. The SCOTUS is becoming more and more like Obama. They pick and choose the laws which they will or will not enforce. It is time for term limits at the SCOTUS. PS. If someone else were paying my insurance premium, i guess I would probably smile as well. Good Luck America !!!!

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Jun 25, 2015 14:09:51   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Unclet wrote:
Could be its not a case of who is right and who is wrong, there is enough of that to go around. Can we afford to continue to subsidize all these folks, I think not. When the money runs out, where and to whom do we turn? Will you be smiling then? I agree, it is not perfect, but it certainly is not as good as it was prior to its existence.

The answer to your question is laid out in the law itself, which includes a description of how the ACA is to be funded. If this wasn't the case, and the ACA was a matter of just spending money, then you would certainly have a point.

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Jun 25, 2015 14:12:39   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
And,

ObamaCare exchanges are melting down across America

NYT: Cost of Coverage Under Affordable Care Act to Increase in 2015

Bloomberg: Sorry, Obamacare Is Still Unfixable

Politico: Experts see big price hikes for Obamacare

HuffPo: Why Obamacare Premiums Will Probably Rise More Quickly Next Year

Dailycaller: CBO: Obamacare Premiums Will Increase Faster Than Private Plans


Obamacare premiums soar as much as 78% to help cover ‘essential health benefits’

Some Obamacare insurers want massive premium hikes

6 of 10 doctors say many will leave profession because of Obamacare

How Government Killed the Medical Profession

Obamacare: Bad for Doctors, Awful for Patients

Whether retiring or fleeing, doctors are leaving health care

Obamacare Has Forced 48 Rural Hospitals to Close, 283 More in Trouble

Rural hospitals in critical condition

Dailycaller: "Obamacare has destroyed my family

America has been screwed and you dolts who fell for this have been, to use Obama's own word, "hoodwinked."

Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber was right, some Americans are stupid.

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Jun 25, 2015 14:12:44   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
UncleJesse wrote:
hope they're not that dumb. at least some corporations can seek profit in this even though the socialists regulate how much profit they can make. single payer would outlaw the business of insurance

The elitists will make a fortune. The common person will have an anal exam by a baseball bat without lube.

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Jun 25, 2015 14:13:49   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
Unclet wrote:
Could be its not a case of who is right and who is wrong, there is enough of that to go around. Can we afford to continue to subsidize all these folks, I think not. When the money runs out, where and to whom do we turn? Will you be smiling then? I agree, it is not perfect, but it certainly is not as good as it was prior to its existence.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Jun 25, 2015 14:15:26   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
straightUp wrote:
Once again, seething conservatives find themselves on the loosing side of better judgement as the Supreme Court upholds the ACA (6-3). I'm sure they will try again, but as many commentators are pointing out, they might have better luck if they actually come up with a better idea. We all know, the ACA is far from perfect, even Obama knows this, but it's not a bad start - certainly better than what we had before and it seems every month more and more Americans are starting to agree.

So maybe crybaby politics isn't the answer. Maybe the answer is actually to provide better options instead of appealing the the fear and ignorance of an increasingly marginalized demographic.

In the meantime... BIG smile on MY face right now. :)
Once again, seething conservatives find themselves... (show quote)


Just curious, have you gotten over crying about Citizen's United and the corrupt conservative SCOTUS?

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