Once again, seething conservatives find themselves on the loosing side of better judgement as the Supreme Court upholds the ACA (6-3). I'm sure they will try again, but as many commentators are pointing out, they might have better luck if they actually come up with a better idea. We all know, the ACA is far from perfect, even Obama knows this, but it's not a bad start - certainly better than what we had before and it seems every month more and more Americans are starting to agree.
So maybe crybaby politics isn't the answer. Maybe the answer is actually to provide better options instead of appealing the the fear and ignorance of an increasingly marginalized demographic.
In the meantime... BIG smile on MY face right now. :)
straightUp wrote:
Once again, seething conservatives find themselves on the loosing side of better judgement as the Supreme Court upholds the ACA (6-3). I'm sure they will try again, but as many commentators are pointing out, they might have better luck if they actually come up with a better idea. We all know, the ACA is far from perfect, even Obama knows this, but it's not a bad start - certainly better than what we had before and it seems every month more and more Americans are starting to agree.
So maybe crybaby politics isn't the answer. Maybe the answer is actually to provide better options instead of appealing the the fear and ignorance of an increasingly marginalized demographic.
In the meantime... BIG smile on MY face right now. :)
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Could be its not a case of who is right and who is wrong, there is enough of that to go around. Can we afford to continue to subsidize all these folks, I think not. When the money runs out, where and to whom do we turn? Will you be smiling then? I agree, it is not perfect, but it certainly is not as good as it was prior to its existence.
It could be that it is here to stay, and we're all screwed. Well, at least until Obamacare destroys private healthcare and we're put on a government rationed healthcare. Then we're screwed worse.
And remember.. Obama said this was a way to get to 'single-payer', which is liberalspeak for Full Solviet Socialism.
interpretive jiggery-pokery federal exchanges count as state exchanges but only for purposes of tax credits that never go to the citizen but to corporations.
congratulations straightUp and enjoy your day with your celebration but hope you libs work with conservatives to fix this thing
straightUp wrote:
Once again, seething conservatives find themselves on the loosing side of better judgement as the Supreme Court upholds the ACA (6-3). I'm sure they will try again, but as many commentators are pointing out, they might have better luck if they actually come up with a better idea. We all know, the ACA is far from perfect, even Obama knows this, but it's not a bad start - certainly better than what we had before and it seems every month more and more Americans are starting to agree.
So maybe crybaby politics isn't the answer. Maybe the answer is actually to provide better options instead of appealing the the fear and ignorance of an increasingly marginalized demographic.
In the meantime... BIG smile on MY face right now. :)
Once again, seething conservatives find themselves... (
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UncleJesse wrote:
interpretive jiggery-pokery federal exchanges count as state exchanges but only for purposes of tax credits that never go to the citizen but to corporations.
congratulations straightUp and enjoy your day with your celebration but hope you libs work with conservatives to fix this thing
The only fix liberals want is to get rid of the freedoms we still have in healthcare.
They're all on board for 'single payer' (IOW - Socialism)
Super Dave wrote:
The only fix liberals want is to get rid of the freedoms we still have in healthcare.
They're all on board for 'single payer' (IOW - Socialism)
Scalia, Thomas, and Alito should be put in quarantine until they learn to speak up before a decision is made. The rest should be whipped through the streets like the political lapdogs that they are. All should be replaced, by working folks who have to live with the decisions that they make.
This is politically better for the GOP.. But it sucks for America.
Super Dave wrote:
The only fix liberals want is to get rid of the freedoms we still have in healthcare.
They're all on board for 'single payer' (IOW - Socialism)
I think that was the intention from the beginning. single payer with the government deciding who is worthy of receiving services. don't be surprised if the government says LGBTQ come first, then single mothers as long as they are atheists , and at the bottom of the list all Christians and Jews who actually try to live up to the religion. Of course, those over 60 and those under 10 will be the first to go, us old folks because we cannot work as hard, and those under 10 because they do not serve any useful purpose except as sexual playthings or as Soylent Green Brings a new meaning to a "poorboy sandwich" doesn't it?
hope they're not that dumb. at least some corporations can seek profit in this even though the socialists regulate how much profit they can make. single payer would outlaw the business of insurance
Super Dave wrote:
The only fix liberals want is to get rid of the freedoms we still have in healthcare.
They're all on board for 'single payer' (IOW - Socialism)
straightUp wrote:
Once again, seething conservatives find themselves on the loosing side of better judgement as the Supreme Court upholds the ACA (6-3). I'm sure they will try again, but as many commentators are pointing out, they might have better luck if they actually come up with a better idea. We all know, the ACA is far from perfect, even Obama knows this, but it's not a bad start - certainly better than what we had before and it seems every month more and more Americans are starting to agree.
So maybe crybaby politics isn't the answer. Maybe the answer is actually to provide better options instead of appealing the the fear and ignorance of an increasingly marginalized demographic.
In the meantime... BIG smile on MY face right now. :)
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StraightUP-if you knew anything about the ACA you would sing a different tune. The only people who benefit are those being subsidized and we were already doing that through medicaid. For those on the receiving end its wonderful news but the premium payer will see his/her rates go up so that the subsidies can continue. The ACA is planned disaster. I can understand why the SCOTUS voted the way it did and it had nothing to do with whether the law was correctly interpreted. It had all to do with the 8.7 million who received subsidies which they would have to pay back had the court voted the way the law was written and intended. So they protected those people for the time being by totally ignoring what the law stated . The law is unsustainable and will crash and burn in due time. The SCOTUS is voting itself out of existence. Even a lay person can understand exactly what that law specifies. The SCOTUS is becoming more and more like Obama. They pick and choose the laws which they will or will not enforce. It is time for term limits at the SCOTUS. PS. If someone else were paying my insurance premium, i guess I would probably smile as well. Good Luck America !!!!
Unclet wrote:
Could be its not a case of who is right and who is wrong, there is enough of that to go around. Can we afford to continue to subsidize all these folks, I think not. When the money runs out, where and to whom do we turn? Will you be smiling then? I agree, it is not perfect, but it certainly is not as good as it was prior to its existence.
The answer to your question is laid out in the law itself, which includes a description of how the ACA is to be funded. If this wasn't the case, and the ACA was a matter of just spending money, then you would certainly have a point.
UncleJesse wrote:
hope they're not that dumb. at least some corporations can seek profit in this even though the socialists regulate how much profit they can make. single payer would outlaw the business of insurance
The elitists will make a fortune. The common person will have an anal exam by a baseball bat without lube.
Dave
Loc: Upstate New York
straightUp wrote:
Once again, seething conservatives find themselves on the loosing side of better judgement as the Supreme Court upholds the ACA (6-3). I'm sure they will try again, but as many commentators are pointing out, they might have better luck if they actually come up with a better idea. We all know, the ACA is far from perfect, even Obama knows this, but it's not a bad start - certainly better than what we had before and it seems every month more and more Americans are starting to agree.
So maybe crybaby politics isn't the answer. Maybe the answer is actually to provide better options instead of appealing the the fear and ignorance of an increasingly marginalized demographic.
In the meantime... BIG smile on MY face right now. :)
Once again, seething conservatives find themselves... (
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Just curious, have you gotten over crying about Citizen's United and the corrupt conservative SCOTUS?
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