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Jun 12, 2013 14:37:47   #
i2luvmyusa
 
Subject: WHAT DOES THIS WORD MEAN? DHIMMITUDE




The word "Dhimmitude" is found in the new health care bill. So what does it mean? Thought this was interesting and worth passing on.

Obama used it in the health care bill. Now isn't this interesting? It is also included in the health care law.

Dhimmitude . I had never heard the word until now, so I typed it into Google and started reading. Pretty interesting! It's on Page 107 of the healthcare bill. I looked this up on Google and, yep, it exists.....it is a REAL word.

Dhimmitude is the Muslim system of controlling non-Muslin populations conquered through jihad (Holy War). Specifically, it is the TAXING of non-Muslims in exchange for tolerating their presence AND as a coercive means of converting conquered remnants to Islam!

ObamaCare allows the establishment of Dhimmitude and Sharia Muslim diktat in the United States !

AND Muslims are specifically exempted from the government mandate to purchase insurance and also from the penalty tax for being uninsured! Islam considers insurance to be "gambling," "risk-taking," and "usury" and is thus banned. Muslims are specifically granted exemption based on this.

How convenient. So I, as a Christian, will have crippling IRS liens placed against all of my assets, including real estate, cattle, and even accounts receivable, and will face hard prison time because I refuse to buy insurance or pay the penalty tax. Meanwhile, Louis Farrakhan will have no such penalty and will have 100% of his health insurance needs paid for by the de-facto government insurance. Non-Muslims will be paying a tax to subsidize Muslims. This is Dhimmitude.

I recommend sending this on to your contacts. American citizens need to know about it.....

snopes.com : Health Insurance Exemptions April 13, 2010 .. Dhimmitude is the Muslim system of controlling non-Muslim populations .. The ObamaCare bill is the establishment of Dhimmitude and Sharia ..www.snopes.com/politics/medical/exemptions.asps/medical/exemptions.asp .



Keep this going. Every non-Muslim in the United States of America needs to know about it.
 
Jun 12, 2013 18:01:03   #
AuntiE (a regular here)
 
i2luvmyusa wrote:
Subject: WHAT DOES THIS WORD MEAN? DHIMMITUDE




The word "Dhimmitude" is found in the new health care bill. So what does it mean? Thought this was interesting and worth passing on.

Obama used it in the health care bill. Now isn't this interesting? It is also included in the health care law.

Dhimmitude . I had never heard the word until now, so I typed it into Google and started reading. Pretty interesting! It's on Page 107 of the healthcare bill. I looked this up on Google and, yep, it exists.....it is a REAL word.

Dhimmitude is the Muslim system of controlling non-Muslin populations conquered through jihad (Holy War). Specifically, it is the TAXING of non-Muslims in exchange for tolerating their presence AND as a coercive means of converting conquered remnants to Islam!

ObamaCare allows the establishment of Dhimmitude and Sharia Muslim diktat in the United States !

AND Muslims are specifically exempted from the government mandate to purchase insurance and also from the penalty tax for being uninsured! Islam considers insurance to be "gambling," "risk-taking," and "usury" and is thus banned. Muslims are specifically granted exemption based on this.

How convenient. So I, as a Christian, will have crippling IRS liens placed against all of my assets, including real estate, cattle, and even accounts receivable, and will face hard prison time because I refuse to buy insurance or pay the penalty tax. Meanwhile, Louis Farrakhan will have no such penalty and will have 100% of his health insurance needs paid for by the de-facto government insurance. Non-Muslims will be paying a tax to subsidize Muslims. This is Dhimmitude.

I recommend sending this on to your contacts. American citizens need to know about it.....

snopes.com : Health Insurance Exemptions April 13, 2010 .. Dhimmitude is the Muslim system of controlling non-Muslim populations .. The ObamaCare bill is the establishment of Dhimmitude and Sharia ..www.snopes.com/politics/medical/exemptions.asps/medical/exemptions.asp .



Keep this going. Every non-Muslim in the United States of America needs to know about it.
Subject: WHAT DOES THIS WORD MEAN? DHIMMITUDE br ... (show quote)


It is interesting; however, you put it in the wrong place. You need to go to Main, Create New Forum and set it up as a forum. Not everyone commenter goes to the Introduction Page.

You will receive an amazing amount of responses.
Jun 12, 2013 21:18:23   #
Loki (a regular here)
 
i2luvmyusa wrote:
Subject: WHAT DOES THIS WORD MEAN? DHIMMITUDE




The word "Dhimmitude" is found in the new health care bill. So what does it mean? Thought this was interesting and worth passing on.

Obama used it in the health care bill. Now isn't this interesting? It is also included in the health care law.

Dhimmitude . I had never heard the word until now, so I typed it into Google and started reading. Pretty interesting! It's on Page 107 of the healthcare bill. I looked this up on Google and, yep, it exists.....it is a REAL word.

Dhimmitude is the Muslim system of controlling non-Muslin populations conquered through jihad (Holy War). Specifically, it is the TAXING of non-Muslims in exchange for tolerating their presence AND as a coercive means of converting conquered remnants to Islam!

ObamaCare allows the establishment of Dhimmitude and Sharia Muslim diktat in the United States !

AND Muslims are specifically exempted from the government mandate to purchase insurance and also from the penalty tax for being uninsured! Islam considers insurance to be "gambling," "risk-taking," and "usury" and is thus banned. Muslims are specifically granted exemption based on this.

How convenient. So I, as a Christian, will have crippling IRS liens placed against all of my assets, including real estate, cattle, and even accounts receivable, and will face hard prison time because I refuse to buy insurance or pay the penalty tax. Meanwhile, Louis Farrakhan will have no such penalty and will have 100% of his health insurance needs paid for by the de-facto government insurance. Non-Muslims will be paying a tax to subsidize Muslims. This is Dhimmitude.

I recommend sending this on to your contacts. American citizens need to know about it.....

snopes.com : Health Insurance Exemptions April 13, 2010 .. Dhimmitude is the Muslim system of controlling non-Muslim populations .. The ObamaCare bill is the establishment of Dhimmitude and Sharia ..www.snopes.com/politics/medical/exemptions.asps/medical/exemptions.asp . Keep this going. Every non-Muslim in the United States of America needs to know about it.
Subject: WHAT DOES THIS WORD MEAN? DHIMMITUDE br ... (show quote)


The Snopes article goes on to say that it does not provide a blanket exemption for Muslims. Most would not be exempt, some sects would. However, all Scientologists are exempt, as are Christian Scientists. I find it far more troubling that the IRS has the determining say in what does and does not constitute a religion. Makes you wonder, "Congress shall make no law regarding the establishment of religion or the free exercise thereof", but these bureaucrats from a quasi-governmental and semi private corporation can.
Jun 12, 2013 21:18:24   #
Loki (a regular here)
 
i2luvmyusa wrote:
Subject: WHAT DOES THIS WORD MEAN? DHIMMITUDE




The word "Dhimmitude" is found in the new health care bill. So what does it mean? Thought this was interesting and worth passing on.

Obama used it in the health care bill. Now isn't this interesting? It is also included in the health care law.

Dhimmitude . I had never heard the word until now, so I typed it into Google and started reading. Pretty interesting! It's on Page 107 of the healthcare bill. I looked this up on Google and, yep, it exists.....it is a REAL word.

Dhimmitude is the Muslim system of controlling non-Muslin populations conquered through jihad (Holy War). Specifically, it is the TAXING of non-Muslims in exchange for tolerating their presence AND as a coercive means of converting conquered remnants to Islam!

ObamaCare allows the establishment of Dhimmitude and Sharia Muslim diktat in the United States !

AND Muslims are specifically exempted from the government mandate to purchase insurance and also from the penalty tax for being uninsured! Islam considers insurance to be "gambling," "risk-taking," and "usury" and is thus banned. Muslims are specifically granted exemption based on this.

How convenient. So I, as a Christian, will have crippling IRS liens placed against all of my assets, including real estate, cattle, and even accounts receivable, and will face hard prison time because I refuse to buy insurance or pay the penalty tax. Meanwhile, Louis Farrakhan will have no such penalty and will have 100% of his health insurance needs paid for by the de-facto government insurance. Non-Muslims will be paying a tax to subsidize Muslims. This is Dhimmitude.

I recommend sending this on to your contacts. American citizens need to know about it.....

snopes.com : Health Insurance Exemptions April 13, 2010 .. Dhimmitude is the Muslim system of controlling non-Muslim populations .. The ObamaCare bill is the establishment of Dhimmitude and Sharia ..www.snopes.com/politics/medical/exemptions.asps/medical/exemptions.asp . Keep this going. Every non-Muslim in the United States of America needs to know about it.
Subject: WHAT DOES THIS WORD MEAN? DHIMMITUDE br ... (show quote)


The Snopes article goes on to say that it does not provide a blanket exemption for Muslims. Most would not be exempt, some sects would. However, all Scientologists are exempt, as are Christian Scientists. I find it far more troubling that the IRS has the determining say in what does and does not constitute a religion. Makes you wonder, "Congress shall make no law regarding the establishment of religion or the free exercise thereof", but these bureaucrats from a quasi-governmental and semi private corporation can.
Jun 12, 2013 21:23:38   #
oldroy (a regular here)
 
i2luvmyusa wrote:
Subject: WHAT DOES THIS WORD MEAN? DHIMMITUDE




The word "Dhimmitude" is found in the new health care bill. So what does it mean? Thought this was interesting and worth passing on.

Obama used it in the health care bill. Now isn't this interesting? It is also included in the health care law.

Dhimmitude . I had never heard the word until now, so I typed it into Google and started reading. Pretty interesting! It's on Page 107 of the healthcare bill. I looked this up on Google and, yep, it exists.....it is a REAL word.

Dhimmitude is the Muslim system of controlling non-Muslin populations conquered through jihad (Holy War). Specifically, it is the TAXING of non-Muslims in exchange for tolerating their presence AND as a coercive means of converting conquered remnants to Islam!

ObamaCare allows the establishment of Dhimmitude and Sharia Muslim diktat in the United States !

AND Muslims are specifically exempted from the government mandate to purchase insurance and also from the penalty tax for being uninsured! Islam considers insurance to be "gambling," "risk-taking," and "usury" and is thus banned. Muslims are specifically granted exemption based on this.

How convenient. So I, as a Christian, will have crippling IRS liens placed against all of my assets, including real estate, cattle, and even accounts receivable, and will face hard prison time because I refuse to buy insurance or pay the penalty tax. Meanwhile, Louis Farrakhan will have no such penalty and will have 100% of his health insurance needs paid for by the de-facto government insurance. Non-Muslims will be paying a tax to subsidize Muslims. This is Dhimmitude.

I recommend sending this on to your contacts. American citizens need to know about it.....

snopes.com : Health Insurance Exemptions April 13, 2010 .. Dhimmitude is the Muslim system of controlling non-Muslim populations .. The ObamaCare bill is the establishment of Dhimmitude and Sharia ..www.snopes.com/politics/medical/exemptions.asps/medical/exemptions.asp . Keep this going. Every non-Muslim in the United States of America needs to know about it.
Subject: WHAT DOES THIS WORD MEAN? DHIMMITUDE br ... (show quote)


I will have to suggest that you try to use http:// before you do the www stuff to get the forum computer to know that what you are doing is typing a link. Otherwise, everybody has to insert it in their browser. I will certainly send that to my e-mail people although I have been telling them what dhimmitude means for about 10 years.

I am glad you found that word in the Obamacare Law and if I find it there I will spend a lot of time telling people about it. We have to repeal that law before it destroys our system and places us at the mercy of Islamists.
Jun 13, 2013 07:54:08   #
snowbear37 (a regular here)
 
The word shouldn't even appear in the law. Who in the "government" even knows what sect any muslim subscribes to? Any muslim can say they are subscribing to sharia law and who would really know? This is just another example of obummer's (not so) secret desire to establish the muslim "religion" more firmly into this country. If that happened, obummer wouldn't be classified as a dhimmi, because that applies to a non-muslim. Even though there are other religions whose beliefs would make them exempt, the people that subscribe to these "other" religions usually conform to U.S. laws in most other ways. They do not insist that everyone else in the world conform to their ways and beliefs. The "so-called" muslim religion is apparently written to make everything "convenient" to muslims including, killing, dismemberment, lying, pretending to be allies until such time as they gain enough power to overcome these "allies", and putting their "laws" above any in any country they choose to inhabit. If "insurance" is a form of "gambling" (which is forbidden in their religion), are they exempt from purchasing car insurance, how many gas stations owned by muslims sell lottery tickets? Wouldn't that be considered promoting gambling, (which should be worse than gambling itself)? This doesn't seem to bother them as long as they are making money doing it. Do they have to have fire insurance on their buildings (gambling)? Do they have to have house insurance on their homes (gambling)?
This country's government is going to be the cause of it's own downfall!
 
Jun 13, 2013 09:46:22   #
usmc4
 
snowbear37 wrote:
The word shouldn't even appear in the law. Who in the "government" even knows what sect any muslim subscribes to? Any muslim can say they are subscribing to sharia law and who would really know? This is just another example of obummer's (not so) secret desire to establish the muslim "religion" more firmly into this country. If that happened, obummer wouldn't be classified as a dhimmi, because that applies to a non-muslim. Even though there are other religions whose beliefs would make them exempt, the people that subscribe to these "other" religions usually conform to U.S. laws in most other ways. They do not insist that everyone else in the world conform to their ways and beliefs. The "so-called" muslim religion is apparently written to make everything "convenient" to muslims including, killing, dismemberment, lying, pretending to be allies until such time as they gain enough power to overcome these "allies", and putting their "laws" above any in any country they choose to inhabit. If "insurance" is a form of "gambling" (which is forbidden in their religion), are they exempt from purchasing car insurance, how many gas stations owned by muslims sell lottery tickets? Wouldn't that be considered promoting gambling, (which should be worse than gambling itself)? This doesn't seem to bother them as long as they are making money doing it. Do they have to have fire insurance on their buildings (gambling)? Do they have to have house insurance on their homes (gambling)?
This country's government is going to be the cause of it's own downfall!
The word shouldn't even appear in the law. Who in ... (show quote)


Abraham Lincoln was way ahead when he said: --- "America will never be taken from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedom, it will be because we destroyed ourselves".
Jun 13, 2013 10:31:43   #
Terbreugghen
 
usmc4 wrote:
Abraham Lincoln was way ahead when he said: --- "America will never be taken from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedom, it will be because we destroyed ourselves".


The term DOES NOT APPEAR IN THE CITED LAW. HOAX ALERT! Please check this stuff out before forwarding and/or being sucked in by things that sound too good.

Oh, and Semper Fidelis, USMC4.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2013/may/30/chain-email/dhimmitude-page-107-health-care-law-exempts-muslim/
Jun 13, 2013 12:37:56   #
snowbear37 (a regular here)
 
Terbreugghen wrote:
The term DOES NOT APPEAR IN THE CITED LAW. HOAX ALERT! Please check this stuff out before forwarding and/or being sucked in by things that sound too good.

Oh, and Semper Fidelis, USMC4.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2013/may/30/chain-email/dhimmitude-page-107-health-care-law-exempts-muslim/


Terprehuggen is correct, the word does not appear in the healthcare law. However, the premise of the law basically conforms to the characteristics of dhimmitude as some laws do in this country.

Characteristics of dhimmitude



The basic element of dhimmitude is a land expropriation through a pact: 'land for peace'. The vanquished populations of territories taken during a millennium of jihad were ‘protected’, providing they recognized the Islamic ownership of their lands, which had now become dar al-Islam, and that they submitted to Islamic authority.



The vanquished peoples are granted security for their life and possessions by the Muslim authority, as well as a relative self‑autonomous administration under their religious leaders, and permission to worship according to the modalities of the treaties. This concept of 'toleration' is linked to a number of discriminatory obligations in the economic, religious and social fields. There are different opinions among the jurists concerning which transgres­sion of these obligations can be considered as breaking the protection pact (dhimma), and what sanctions should be applied.



The first 'right' is the right to life, which was conceded on payment of the jizya (Koran 9:29), a poll-tax paid with humiliation by the dhimmi.. The refusal to pay the jizya is considered by all jurists as a rupture of the dhimma, which automatically restores to the umma its initial rights of war ‑ to kill and to dispossess the dhimmi, or to expel him, because he has therefore returned to his former status of being an unsubjected infidel.



Hence Abu Yusuf wrote in his book on the kharaj (land tax) that it was not allowed for the governor to exempt any Jew, Christian, or other dhimmis from the jizya: “and no one can obtain a partial reduction. It is illegal for one to be exempted and another not, for their lives and belongings are spared only because of payment of the poll tax." 9



Protection is abolished if the dhimmis rebel against Islamic law, give allegiance to a non‑Muslim power, refuse to pay the jizya, entice a Muslim from his faith, harm a Muslim or his property, or commit blasphemy. The moment the pact of protection is abolished the jihad resumes, which means that the lives of the dhimmis and their property are forfeited. Today, one finds Islamists in Upper Egypt who kill and pillage Copts, because they argue that these dhimmis have forfeited their 'protection' as they no longer pay the jizya.



The Baha'i religion is not protected even today in Iran. In 1994 two Muslims kidnapped and killed a Baha'i. The Islamic court held that as the Baha'is were "unprotected infidels... the issue of retribution is null and void". 10 This means that an infidel has no human rights, unless he is protected by Islamic law.



In the context of its time, the protection system presented both positive and negative aspects. It provided security and a measure of religious autonomy, but in a legal context of discrimination. These rules, mostly estab­lished from the eighth to ninth centuries by the founders of the four schools of Islamic law, set the pattern of the Muslim community's social behavior toward dhimmis.

Although the healthcare law doesn't require giving up the "right to life", the bill was "forced through" by the government which requires "a tax" to be paid if people don't buy the insurance.
Jun 13, 2013 15:13:36   #
Terbreugghen
 
Snowbear37:

Good argument. Thanks for posting. Very clear and informative. Seems to me to be a stretch to call Obamacare a form of dhimmitude, unless you wanted to call all forms of taxation the same thing.
Jun 13, 2013 15:20:23   #
Loki (a regular here)
 
Terbreugghen wrote:
Snowbear37:

Good argument. Thanks for posting. Very clear and informative. Seems to me to be a stretch to call Obamacare a form of dhimmitude, unless you wanted to call all forms of taxation the same thing.


Most forms of taxation would be better defined as "extortion."
 
Jun 13, 2013 15:24:55   #
Terbreugghen
 
banjojack wrote:
Most forms of taxation would be better defined as "extortion."


I'm a middle road kind of guy. There are forms of taxation that I think are appropriate. Military, civil, judicial, police, etc. These things cost money to provide.

I'm very much in favor of government revenue expended in exchange for goods or services. I am very much less inclined to approve of wealth transfer payments sans limit or condition, either to domestic spending for welfare recipients, or to shell corporations feathering their nests.
Jun 13, 2013 17:10:46   #
oldroy (a regular here)
 
snowbear37 wrote:
Terprehuggen is correct, the word does not appear in the healthcare law. However, the premise of the law basically conforms to the characteristics of dhimmitude as some laws do in this country.

Characteristics of dhimmitude



The basic element of dhimmitude is a land expropriation through a pact: 'land for peace'. The vanquished populations of territories taken during a millennium of jihad were ‘protected’, providing they recognized the Islamic ownership of their lands, which had now become dar al-Islam, and that they submitted to Islamic authority.



The vanquished peoples are granted security for their life and possessions by the Muslim authority, as well as a relative self‑autonomous administration under their religious leaders, and permission to worship according to the modalities of the treaties. This concept of 'toleration' is linked to a number of discriminatory obligations in the economic, religious and social fields. There are different opinions among the jurists concerning which transgres­sion of these obligations can be considered as breaking the protection pact (dhimma), and what sanctions should be applied.



The first 'right' is the right to life, which was conceded on payment of the jizya (Koran 9:29), a poll-tax paid with humiliation by the dhimmi.. The refusal to pay the jizya is considered by all jurists as a rupture of the dhimma, which automatically restores to the umma its initial rights of war ‑ to kill and to dispossess the dhimmi, or to expel him, because he has therefore returned to his former status of being an unsubjected infidel.



Hence Abu Yusuf wrote in his book on the kharaj (land tax) that it was not allowed for the governor to exempt any Jew, Christian, or other dhimmis from the jizya: “and no one can obtain a partial reduction. It is illegal for one to be exempted and another not, for their lives and belongings are spared only because of payment of the poll tax." 9



Protection is abolished if the dhimmis rebel against Islamic law, give allegiance to a non‑Muslim power, refuse to pay the jizya, entice a Muslim from his faith, harm a Muslim or his property, or commit blasphemy. The moment the pact of protection is abolished the jihad resumes, which means that the lives of the dhimmis and their property are forfeited. Today, one finds Islamists in Upper Egypt who kill and pillage Copts, because they argue that these dhimmis have forfeited their 'protection' as they no longer pay the jizya.



The Baha'i religion is not protected even today in Iran. In 1994 two Muslims kidnapped and killed a Baha'i. The Islamic court held that as the Baha'is were "unprotected infidels... the issue of retribution is null and void". 10 This means that an infidel has no human rights, unless he is protected by Islamic law.



In the context of its time, the protection system presented both positive and negative aspects. It provided security and a measure of religious autonomy, but in a legal context of discrimination. These rules, mostly estab­lished from the eighth to ninth centuries by the founders of the four schools of Islamic law, set the pattern of the Muslim community's social behavior toward dhimmis.

Although the healthcare law doesn't require giving up the "right to life", the bill was "forced through" by the government which requires "a tax" to be paid if people don't buy the insurance.
Terprehuggen is correct, the word does b not /b ... (show quote)


Is the formal name for Obamacare really considered to be H. R. 3590? If so then the bill originated in the House of Representatives and we all know it was written and first passed in the Senate. Written in the offices of Dirty Harry Reid and then passed without any debate by the Democrat majority in the Senate. It then went to Nancy Pelosi's House where she demanded it be passed without debate on the floor or any kind of committee work about it and such was done by the Democrat majority in the House.

Now only fools would accept that title as the real name although I have been reading that as the official title on a number of left leaning organizations like Politifact, Annenberg, and other just plain blog sites. I don't know a lot about these things but I do know that this bill has to have an official name beginning with S. to indicate origination in the Senate which is a very unconstitutional thing. The Constitution states in Article I that all tax laws have to originate in the House of Reps. The Supreme Court stated that as a tax law this one is surely Constitutional but only as a tax law. It does contain over 20 new taxes so is acceptable but what if someone wises up and having standing, whatever that is, brings this question up to the Court?

Just today I read that NSA and the FBI are not allowed to enter to watch or even apply the copying law that is so hot these days. Why would that be? Over 80% of our Mosques teach violent jihad, and push for it, but the FBI can't enter them to see what is going on. It is said that the dead Boston bomber even shouted out about jihad in his very radical Mosque but the FBI couldn't tell us about that.

I am going off topic but how do we avoid our children becoming dhimmis if Mosques can't be watched as other churches in the nation can and are? I liked your information about dhimmis in the early days of Mohammed and disliked any talk of the whole thing dying out. Mohammed was applying all of that to those he conquered like in Mecca and Meidina. I would guess that as long as CAIR and the ACLU can keep on getting special dispensations about what is done in Mosques there is a strong chance that our nation will come under Sharia Law and not in the far distant future.

Have you heard about the open mic thing in Egypt the other day? They intend to go after Israel and then we are next and the Obama administration will continue to give them money and weapons that will be used on the two of us. It seems to me that the Muslims are really a lot smarter than we are and that Obama is plenty fearful of standing up to them.
Jun 13, 2013 20:37:28   #
Loki (a regular here)
 
oldroy wrote:
Is the formal name for Obamacare really considered to be H. R. 3590? If so then the bill originated in the House of Representatives and we all know it was written and first passed in the Senate. Written in the offices of Dirty Harry Reid and then passed without any debate by the Democrat majority in the Senate. It then went to Nancy Pelosi's House where she demanded it be passed without debate on the floor or any kind of committee work about it and such was done by the Democrat majority in the House.

Now only fools would accept that title as the real name although I have been reading that as the official title on a number of left leaning organizations like Politifact, Annenberg, and other just plain blog sites. I don't know a lot about these things but I do know that this bill has to have an official name beginning with S. to indicate origination in the Senate which is a very unconstitutional thing. The Constitution states in Article I that all tax laws have to originate in the House of Reps. The Supreme Court stated that as a tax law this one is surely Constitutional but only as a tax law. It does contain over 20 new taxes so is acceptable but what if someone wises up and having standing, whatever that is, brings this question up to the Court?

Just today I read that NSA and the FBI are not allowed to enter to watch or even apply the copying law that is so hot these days. Why would that be? Over 80% of our Mosques teach violent jihad, and push for it, but the FBI can't enter them to see what is going on. It is said that the dead Boston bomber even shouted out about jihad in his very radical Mosque but the FBI couldn't tell us about that.

I am going off topic but how do we avoid our children becoming dhimmis if Mosques can't be watched as other churches in the nation can and are? I liked your information about dhimmis in the early days of Mohammed and disliked any talk of the whole thing dying out. Mohammed was applying all of that to those he conquered like in Mecca and Meidina. I would guess that as long as CAIR and the ACLU can keep on getting special dispensations about what is done in Mosques there is a strong chance that our nation will come under Sharia Law and not in the far distant future.

Have you heard about the open mic thing in Egypt the other day? They intend to go after Israel and then we are next and the Obama administration will continue to give them money and weapons that will be used on the two of us. It seems to me that the Muslims are really a lot smarter than we are and that Obama is plenty fearful of standing up to them.
Is the formal name for Obamacare really considered... (show quote)


Muslims are not smarter than we are, but they are smarter than the majority of morons in DC. Of course, sponges are smarter than the majority of the morons in
DC, so what does that say about their constituents?
Jun 13, 2013 21:35:43   #
oldroy (a regular here)
 
banjojack wrote:
Muslims are not smarter than we are, but they are smarter than the majority of morons in DC. Of course, sponges are smarter than the majority of the morons in
DC, so what does that say about their constituents?


If majorities of their constituents are so stupid as to keep them up there I say that most Muslims in the Brotherhood could well be smarter than those constitutes.

They have us headed toward dhimmitude and most of us just don't understand what that says. We don't even know that when it is too late there is no turning back. A good example of that would be Syria and what it has become 18 months after Obama failed to act.
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