straightUp Loc: California

I just had a... discussion with someone on this site where he said useful idiots are those who beleive anything their leaders say. I agree that's qualification for being an idiot. But I think an idiot becomes useful when he subsequently contributes to a consensus among many idiots, giving the delerium a sort of perceived legitimacy.

Of course the person I was conversing with was only referring to those who believe anything Obama says, but I'm not that discriminatory.

And sure enough as I was closing out I saw a banner-ad from teaparty.org that asks the question... "Should Obama be impeached." I'm sure some of you have seen it. I was curious so I clicked...

Apparently, because no one can actually come up with any empirical evidence that Obama has lied. They are trying the "fake birth certificate" again. The ad says there is fresh evidence that his birth certificate is fake...

That was all that was said about that. There was no presentation of evidence, no link, nothing. Basically, just heresay. So step #1 is already set... If you believe that statement just because the Tea Party says so, then you are an idiot according to the definition provided by the anti-Obama person I was conversing with.

Next the ad proceeds to step #2, which is basically a poll asking if you think Obama should be impeached because of his supposedly fake birth certificate. So without evidence or background, the Tea Party launches a poll that it says "The results of these polls will be published online and are shared with major news networks and policymakers."

And there we have the consensus and the idiots become useful.

It's just funny how after being told about Obama's useful idiots I immediately stumble upon a perfectly illustrative example of how the Tea Party is fostering an entire culture of useful idiots.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

Whoopee, the left leaning spokesperson for this forum has spoken about what he sees about the Tea Party. It is now your turn to prove that that thing Obama last posted as his birth certificate is really not made up many years later than his birth year. I have seen all kinds of talk from the useful idiots of the left that says it is not a lie but with no proof at all. I have asked and asked those of the useful idiot class, the first time I heard that term it came from communists working on college campuses in the 1930s. Now you don't get to just stomp in and steal that term from those people unless you are one of them. Are you?

The Dutchman

It most certainly is! And compounded by it's admitting to clicking on an internet add, only complete idiots do that Eh?

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

I don't consider myself a useful idiot but I certainly do take advantage of those opportunities to vote in those things. I have always voted yes about his impeachment but if I was allowed to say anything about it I would have to say that I sure don't want to see Biden in the job, either.

straightUp Loc: California

In criminal cases the burden of proof is on the prosecution. There is a reason for that rule. Without prosecution there is no charge. Without charge there is no reason for proof. The charge is that Obama used a fake birth certificate. That put's the burden of proof on whoever is issuing the charge. That would be you.



Are you freakin' kidding me? The term 'capitalism' as an economic system came from their godhead, Karl Marx himself, so are you going to call every capitalistic part of our economy communism?
LOL ...You are too funny
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Am I what? One of the communists? LOL... do you get a badge if you catch one? Would it even make a difference to you? You're reactions are already at seething level 10, how is a communist going to make a difference?

No. I am not a communist. They have too much work to do to achieve their goals. I'm not up for that.

straightUp Loc: California

Clicking on an internet ad is bad? Because... it tracks and collects stuff that any of your other clicks on the internet don't already?

LOL - What does it matter anyway if... Oh, wait... aren't you using anonymous browsing? See, if you liked Obama he would have sent you the memo telling you to use anonymous browsing to avoid his new tracking system that he's using to zero in on conservatives.

...you should probably check outside... there might be drones.

CrazyHorse Loc: Kansas

Quid Pro Quo, straightUP: Stated as if down from on high: "In criminal cases the burden of proof is on the prosecution. There is a reason for that rule. Without prosecution there is no charge. Without charge there is no reason for proof. The charge is that Obama used a fake birth certificate. That put's the burden of proof on whoever is issuing the charge. That would be you. " Hey sparkie,one of your problems is that the Alabama case is not a "criminal case", this is not a "prosecution", it's a "civil case". In civil cases the burden of proof depends upon the issue. The issue here is Omaggot's constitutional qualification to hold his present office, for which the burden of proof is and has been on Omaggot since he initially ran for office, even up to today; since if he is not constitutionally qualified, he has no constitutional authority for the office even today. Next you opine: "The charge is that Obama used a fake birth certificate. That put's the burden of proof on whoever is issuing the charge." Now it is you plead another ignorance of the law, or intentionally mislead the readers of 1pp. The issue before the court is whether or not Omaggot is constitutionally qualified to hold the office of president and as a result whether the Alabama election results should be overturned. The fraudulent computer generated birth certificate is the only alleged evidence Omaggot has submitted to the court as evidence for the courts consideration. Obama clearly has the burden of proof on the issue of the validity of his submitted computer generated birth certificate, and so far has no evidence to the contrary that said certificate is not flagrantly fraudulent. Submitting an intentionally fraudulently manufactured document to the Alabama Supreme Court could qualify Omaggot for a determination and finding that he is guilty of obstruction of justice, a possible jail term, and possibly the loss of any license he may have to practice law. So the question for me is what law school, if any, did you attend, maybe Obama's Harvard, Eh?

The Dutchman

Clicking on an internet ad is bad? Because... it tracks and collects stuff that any of your other clicks on the internet don't already?

If I click on any site that is trying to track me my browser settings warn me to make certain I want to proceed and I do get a lot of these flags and don't go any farther!

And yes I do believe the present administration is tracking anyone they consider to be a dissident as they consider all Veterans, and Patriots to be!

And you have also convinced me that you are very much one of the useful idiots that supports this socialist administrations goals of destroying America!

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

Twist, twist, twist. Well I only said that the first people I heard using the useful idiot thing were communists working at colleges in the 1930s. Then I asked you if you were one. Well now, you failed to comment about when I first ran into the useful idiot thing so maybe you really are a communist.

ABBAsFernando Loc: Ohio

The Dutchman

straightUp wrote:
Am I what? One of the communists? LOL... do you get a badge if you catch one? Would it even make a difference to you? You're reactions are already at seething level 10, how is a communist going to make a difference?
No. I am not a communist. They have too much work to do to achieve their goals. I'm not up for that.




Old Roy, it most likely never admit to being a commie that these useful idiots always deny, they just try to pass them selves off as liberals.
Now we all know what a useful idiot is by now and they may not be a communist, but in reality they are the communists useful idiots in their support of this present administration!
Now they often times try to pass themselves off as liberals which is just the first step to becoming a socialist and their all the communists useful idiots as defined below!

http://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-2341-1.html

CrazyHorse Loc: Kansas

Quid Pro Quo, straightUP: Oh, my: "Apparently, because no one can actually come up with any empirical evidence that Obama has lied." Anyone willing to make that statement with a straight face is a certified Retard Obstructionist Vapid Charlaton. You blew your cover pard. No one will now pay much if any attention to you.

The Dutchman

Brain fried isn't it?

TheCracker

Since "up" declares he is not a Communist, then perhaps he would be kind enough to tell us all, just what he is?

Hold your breath!

The Dutchman

Are you certain it is a he?