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Jul 7, 2014 08:28:25   #
Kay Littrell
 
BigMike wrote:
Then you agree that both parties have been going in the same direction more or less, just at different speeds?


That which is incapable of changing is soon dead. The trick is to know and understand the types of change that is ongoing, get out in front of it and guide it in the correct direction.

Opposing any and all change is the recipe for an Obama or worse to seize power or misdirect needed change. What policies from 1776 would you continue in effect today without even a smidgen of change? Be careful how you answer now because there will be a test afterwards.

"Does it not seem strange to you that these men just happened to be CFR [Council of Foreign Relations (the Fed) ] and just happened to be on the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve, that absolutely controls the money and interest rates of this great country without the benefit of Congress? A privately owned organization, the Federal Reserve, which has absolutely nothing to do with the United States of America!"

Who said the above?

Woodrow Wilson?

Vladimir Lenin?

Barry Goldwater?

Glen Beck?

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Jul 7, 2014 17:58:36   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Kay Littrell wrote:
That which is incapable of changing is soon dead. The trick is to know and understand the types of change that is ongoing, get out in front of it and guide it in the correct direction.

Opposing any and all change is the recipe for an Obama or worse to seize power or misdirect needed change. What policies from 1776 would you continue in effect today without even a smidgen of change? Be careful how you answer now because there will be a test afterwards.

"Does it not seem strange to you that these men just happened to be CFR [Council of Foreign Relations (the Fed) ] and just happened to be on the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve, that absolutely controls the money and interest rates of this great country without the benefit of Congress? A privately owned organization, the Federal Reserve, which has absolutely nothing to do with the United States of America!"

Who said the above?

Woodrow Wilson?

Vladimir Lenin?

Barry Goldwater?

Glen Beck?
That which is incapable of changing is soon dead. ... (show quote)


Who said I was opposed to change? What do you mean by change? If by change you mean radical departure from the Constitution - we've already done that. By degrees, perhaps, but cumulatively, we are very far from the free society the founders envisioned. Our prison statistics, the bleeding of power from local government and states to the federal government, the militarization of government agencies, etc. No problem with finding examples of just how far we've deviated. But since it is by degrees we came to the place we are now, it is by degrees that we must reverse the totalitarian trend we've seen for the last 100 years. Just for the hell of it, start with the NSA. No more blanket collection of data! If they want to collect data they need a warrant for a specific person for a specific reason. It could be a number of things. Maybe you have a better place to start.

None of what you mentioned seems strange to me. In fact, that's part of my point with my dissatisfaction with the Republicans. The Fed, the IMF, the World Bank, the CFR, the Bildurberg Group and the Trilateral Commission are joined at the hip. All part of the same machine. Woodrow Wilson, hands down, did more to damage this nation than the rest of the lousy presidents combined. I just read an interesting book, 'The Creature From Jekyll Island', that opened my eyes some. It made me interested in something that had never caught my attention before.

Here's a few more names of those entrusted with the important Progressive job of manipulating public opinion and gathering wealth and power to the few. Looks like they're doing a bang-up job to me, and! They have a lot of people convinced that it's 'for the good of the public'! These are just some of the members of of the CFR:


Corporate membership[edit]

There are several levels of corporate membership. As of June 7, 2013 current members are:[5]
Founders Bank of America Merrill Lynch
Chevron Corporation
ExxonMobil Corporation
Goldman Sachs, Inc.
JPMorgan Chase & Co
Amererican Express
Barclays plc
Bloomberg L.P.
Citigroup
Credit Suisse
Dell, Inc.
Deutsche Bank
Lockheed Martin Corporation
McGraw–Hill
MetLife
Morgan Stanley
Shell Oil Company
Soros Fund Management
Standard Chartered Bank

Premium members

Allied World Assurance Company, Ltd.
American International Group
American Telephone & Telegraph
Bank of New York Mellon Corporation
Boeing Company
Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce
ConocoPhillips Company
Continental Properties
Equinox Partners, L.P.
General Electric Company
GlaxoSmithKline
Google, Inc.
IBM Corporation
Merck & Co., Inc.
Microsoft Corporation
News Corporation
Northrop Grumman
Occidental Petroleum Corporation
PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP (PwC)
Prudential Financial
Rothschild North America, Inc.
Standard & Poor's
T. Rowe Price Group
Time Warner Inc.


Notable current council members[edit]



This article needs additional citations for verification. Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. (June 2013)
Roger Ailes (Chairman and CEO of Fox News)
Madeleine Albright (64th United States Secretary of State, 20th United States Ambassador to the United Nations under Bill Clinton)
Lamar Alexander (45th Governor of Tennessee, United States Republican Senator, 5th United States Secretary of Education under George H.W. Bush)
Eliot Abrams (international lawyer, former state department official under Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush)
James Baker (61st Secretary of State of the United States under Bush-41, and 67th Secretary of the Treasury of the United States under Ronald Reagan, 10th & 16th White House chief of staff to President's Reagan and George H.W. Bush)
Peter Bergen (journalist, national security analyst for CNN)
Joe Biden (47th Vice-President of the United States)
Josh Bolten (22nd White House chief-of-staff under George W. Bush)
Sandy Berger (19th United States National Security Advisor under President Bill Clinton)
Warren Beatty (actor, film producer, director)
Michael R. Bloomberg (108th Mayor of New York City, founder of Bloomberg L.P.)
Erin Burnett (journalist, CNN anchor)
George H.W. Bush (41st President of the United States)
Tom Brokaw (NBC journalist)
Zbigniew Brzezinski (10th United States National Security Advisor under President Jimmy Carter)
Stephen Gerald Breyer (United States Supreme Court justice)
Jimmy Carter (39th President of the United States)
Frank Carlucci (16th Secretary of Defense and 15th U.S. national security adviser under Ronald Reagan, 13th deputy director of the Central Intelligence Agency under Jimmy Carter)
Dick Cheney (46th Vice-President of the United States)
Bill Clinton (42nd President of the United States)
Hillary Rodham Clinton(former First Lady of the United States, former United States Senator from New York, 67th United States Secretary of State under Barack Obama)
Mario Cuomo (Democratic politician, 52nd Governor of New York)
Michael Crow (president of Arizona State University)
Katie Couric (former CBS and NBC journalist, talk show host)
Edward F. Cox (international attorney, chairman of the New York Republican party, son-in-law of Richard Nixon)
Michael Dukakis (65th and 67th governor of Massachusetts, 1988 Democratic Party nominee for the Presidency)
John Edwards (former Democratic U.S. senator from North Carolina, 2004 Democratic Vice-Presidential nominee)
Roger W. Ferguson, Jr. (former vice-chairman of the Federal Reserve)
Noah Feldman (academic and author)
Dianne Feinstein (United States Democratic Party Senator from California)
Bill Frist (Republican politician, former United States Senate Majority Leader of the United States Senate)
Mikhail Fridman (Russian oligarch, International Advisory Board member)
Thomas Friedman (columnist for The New York Times)
Robert M. Gates (22nd United States Secretary of Defense under Bush & Obama, 15th Director of Central Intelligence under George H.W. Bush)
Dick Gephardt (22nd Majority Leader of the United States House of Representatives)
Alan Greenspan (13th Chairman of the Federal Reserve)
Maurice R. Greenberg (former chairman and CEO of AIG)
Bob Graham (Democratic Party 38th governor of Florida and United States Senator)
Timothy Geithner {75th secretary of the treasury under Obama, 9th president of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York}
Mikhail Gorbachev (former President of the USSR)
Newt Gingrich (58th Speaker of the United States House of Representatives)
Ruth Bader Ginsburg (United States Supreme Court justice)
Tenzin Gyatso (14th Dalai Lama)
Michael Hayden (United States Air Force general, 15th director of the National Security Agency under Bill Clinton, and 20th director of the CIA under George W. Bush)
Chris Heinz (heir to the H. J. Heinz Company ketchup fortune)
Angelina Jolie (actress, UN Goodwill Ambassador)
John Kerry(former United States Senator from Massachusetts, 68th United States Secretary of State under Barack Obama, 2004 Democratic Party nominee for the Presidency)
Vanessa Kerry (doctor of medicine, liberal activist, daughter of John Kerry)
Henry Kissinger (8th National Security Advisor under Richard Nixon and 56th United States Secretary of State under President's Nixon and Ford)
Charles Krauthammer (columnist for the Washington Post and political commentator at Fox News)
Jim Lehrer (journalist, former anchor for PBS)
Joe Lieberman (former United States Independent Senator from Connecticut)
Lewis Libby (attorney, former chief-of-staff to Vice-President Dick Cheney)
John McCain (United States Republican Senator from Arizona, 2008 Republican Party nominee for the Presidency)
George J. Mitchell (17th Senate Majority Leader of the United States Senate}
Walter Mondale (42nd Vice-President of the United States)
Les Moonves (President and Chief Executive Officer of CBS)
Bill Moyers (former press-secretary to Lyndon Johnson, public commentator for PBS)
Rupert Murdoch (founder/chairman/CEO of News Corp and Fox News)
Heather Nauert (journalist and anchor for Fox News)
Janet Napolitano (3rd United States Secretary of Homeland Security under Obama, 21st Governor of Arizona)
John D. Negroponte (former United States Deputy Secretary of State and former Director of National Intelligence under George W. Bush)
Sandra Day O'Connor (former United States Supreme Court justice)
Stan O'Neal (former Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board of Merrill Lynch)
George Pataki (Republican politician, 53rd Governor of New York)
Henry Paulson (74th United States Treasury Secretary under George W. Bush)
Robert Pastor (national security adviser, son-in-law to Robert McNamara)
David Petraeus (United States Army General, former head of CENTCOM, 22nd director of the CIA)
Colin Powell (65th United States Secretary of State under Bush-43, 16th National Security Advisor under Reagan, 12th Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under Bush-41)
Priscilla Presley (actress and former chairwoman of the board of Elvis Presley Enterprises)
Janet Reno (78th United States Attorney General under Clinton)
Condoleezza Rice (66th United States Secretary of State under Bush-43)
Dan Rather (journalist, formerly anchor at CBS)
Charles Rangel (United States Democratic Congressman from New York City)
David Rockefeller, Jr.
John D. Rockefeller, IV (United States Democratic Party Senator of West Virginia, 29th Governor of West Virginia)
Charlie Rose (PBS journalist and The Early Show anchor)
Robert Rubin (70th Secretary of the Treasury under Bill Clinton)
Diane Sawyer (ABC News journalist)
Dan Senor (former foreign policy advisor to George W. Bush, former Fox News foreign policy analyst)
Karenna Gore Schiff (daughter of Al Gore)
Olympia J. Snowe (former Republican United States Senator from Maine)
Brent Scowcroft (9th & 17th United States National Security Advisor under Presidents Gerald Ford and George H. W. Bush)
George Shultz (60th United States Secretary of State under Reagan, 62nd United States Secretary of the Treasury and 11th United States Secretary of Labor under Richard Nixon}
George Soros (currency speculator, investor, businessman)
Lesley Stahl (CBS News journalist)
Donna Shalala (18th United States Secretary of Health and Human Services under Bill Clinton, President of the University of Miami)
Eduard Shevardnadze (2nd President of Georgia)
Eric Shinseki (7th United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs under Obama, 34th Chief of Staff of the United States Army under Clinton & Bush)
Adlai Stevenson III (former Democratic United States Senator from Illinois, son of Adlai Stevenson II)
George Stephanopoulos (former White House press-secretary under Bill Clinton, Good Morning America anchor, This Week with George Stephanopoulos host)
John L. Thornton (chairman of Brookings Institution, academic, former president of Goldman Sachs}
Fred Thompson (attorney, actor, radio talk-show host, former Republican United States Senator from Tennessee,)
Frances Townsend {former United States Homeland Security Advisor}
Kathleen Kennedy Townsend (Former Democratic Lieutenant Governor of Maryland, member of the Kennedy family)
Paul Volcker (12th Chairman of the Federal Reserve)
Peter J. Wallison (20th White House Counsel to Ronald Reagan, former lawyer to Nelson Rockefeller)
Barbara Walters (ABC News journalist)
John C. Whitehead (chairman of the World Trade Center Memorial Foundation, former United States Deputy Secretary of State under Ronald Reagan, former Goldman Sachs chairman)
Christine Todd Whitman (50th Governor of New Jersey, 9th administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency under George W. Bush)
Oprah Winfrey (media mogul, actress, founder of Harpo Inc.)
James D. Wolfensohn (former president of the World Bank)
Paul Wolfowitz (10th President of the World Bank, former U.S. Deputy Secretary of Defense under Bush-43)
Paula Zahn (journalist, former anchor at Fox News and CNN)
James Zogby (academic, political commentator and pollster)
Robert Zoellick (11th President of the World Bank)

Current Emeritus and Honorary Officers and Directors[edit]
Leslie H. Gelb (President Emeritus)
Maurice R. Greenberg (Honorary Vice Chairman)
Peter G. Peterson (Chairman Emeritus)
David Rockefeller (Honorary Chairman)

Notable historical members[edit]

Les Aspin {democrat congressman from Wisconsin, 18th United States Secretary of Defense under Bill Clinton}
William F. Buckley, Jr (commentator, publisher, founder of the National Review)
Heidi Nelson Cruz {Investment banker, wife of Texas Senator Ted Cruz}
Monica Crowley (former Richard Nixon aide, radio host, and columnist)
Warren Christopher (former United States Secretary of State)
Allen Dulles (former Director of the CIA)
Lawrence Eagleburger (former United States Secretary of State under President George H. W. Bush)
Gerald Ford (38th President of the United States of America)
Geraldine Ferraro (former Democratic New York congresswoman, first woman on a major party presidential ticket in 1984)
Alexander Haig (United States Army General, 59th Secretary of State of the United States under Ronald Reagan)
Sidney Harman (businessman, owner of Newsweek)
Armand Hammer (businessman, investor)
Herbert Hoover (31st President of the United States)
Jack Kemp (Hall of Fame quarterback, Republican congressman from New York, 9th United States Secretary of Housing and Urban Development under Bush-41, 1996 Republican Vice-Presidential nominee)
Jeane Kirkpatrick (diplomat, 16th United States Ambassador to the United Nations)
George McGovern (former Democratic senator from South Dakota, 1972 Democratic Party nominee for President)
Robert McNamara (8th Secretary of Defense under Presidents John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson, 5th President of the World Bank)
Daniel Patrick Moynihan (diplomat, former Democratic Senator from New York)
Edmund Muskie (58th Secretary of State of the United States)
Richard M. Nixon (37th President of the United States)
David Rockefeller
Nelson Rockefeller (41st Vice-President of the United States, and Governor of New York)
John D. Rockefeller 3rd
Dean Rusk (54th Secretary of State of the United States under Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson)
Carl Sagan (American scientist)
Tony Snow (former press secretary to George W. Bush, journalist, radio talk-show host)
Shirley Temple (actress, diplomat)
Cyrus Vance (57th Secretary of State of the United States under Jimmy Carter)
Rick Warren (American Christian leader, Senior Pastor of the Saddleback Church
Paul Warburg (banker)
Caspar Weinberger (15th Secretary of Defense for the United States under Ronald Reagan)

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Jul 7, 2014 19:11:28   #
Kay Littrell
 
I see that you have the Tea Party Darling, Cuban Expatriate, Canadian citizen and Texas Presidential want-to-be Ted Cruz's wife listed as an enemy of the state.

I will be waiting with baited breath to see how the TPs spin this little 14th Amendment question. Always remember that what goes around in the end comes around.

I don't remember seeing one Colonel (honorary) Edward M. House listed on your enemy's of the state rogue's gallery.

In late 1911 Col. (honorary) Ed House traveled to New Jersey to pay a visit to former Princeton University President and present New Jersey Governor Thomas Woodrow Wilson. (Woodrow was his mother's family name) This meeting less than a year before the 1912 Presidential election as the first time that Wilson or Col. House had ever laid eyes on each other. House was looking for an accolade to run as the Democrat Party nominee in the 1912 Presidential election. In less than 1 year of this meeting Wilson was President Elect of the United States. Here is one pitch that the Texas Banking Honorary Colonel Edward House made to Woodrow Wilson during the run up to the creation of the Federal Reserve.

“[Very] soon, every American will be required to register their biological property in a national system designed to keep track of the people and that will operate under the ancient system of pledging. By such methodology, we can compel people to submit to our agenda, which will effect our security as a chargeback for our fiat paper currency. Every American will be forced to register or suffer being unable to work and earn a living. They will be our chattel, and we will hold the security interest over them forever, by operation of the law merchant under the scheme of secured transactions.

Americans, by unknowingly or unwittingly delivering the bills of lading to us will be rendered bankrupt and insolvent, forever to remain economic slaves through taxation, secured by their pledges. They will be stripped of their rights and given a commercial value designed to make us a profit and they will be none the wiser, for not one man in a million could ever figure our plans and, if by accident one or two should figure it out, we have in our arsenal plausible deniability. After all, this is the only logical way to fund government, by floating liens and debt to the registrants in the form of benefits and privileges. This will inevitably reap to us huge profits beyond our wildest expectations and leave every American a contributor to this fraud which we will call “Social Insurance.” Without realizing it, every American will insure us for any loss we may incur and in this manner, every American will unknowingly be our servant, however begrudgingly. The people will become helpless and without any hope for their redemption and, we will employ the high office of the President of our dummy corporation to foment this plot against America." -- Honorary Colonel Edward Mandell House 1913.

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Jul 7, 2014 19:47:44   #
saddletramp
 
Who would sell a vote for $15?What is a gallon of Mad Dog 20 20 going for today?It was meant as joke,but I think there is a lot of truth there.And old Thad knew it.

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Jul 7, 2014 19:52:45   #
Sicilianthing
 
BigMike wrote:
Who said I was opposed to change? What do you mean by change? If by change you mean radical departure from the Constitution - we've already done that. By degrees, perhaps, but cumulatively, we are very far from the free society the founders envisioned. Our prison statistics, the bleeding of power from local government and states to the federal government, the militarization of government agencies, etc. No problem with finding examples of just how far we've deviated. But since it is by degrees we came to the place we are now, it is by degrees that we must reverse the totalitarian trend we've seen for the last 100 years. Just for the hell of it, start with the NSA. No more blanket collection of data! If they want to collect data they need a warrant for a specific person for a specific reason. It could be a number of things. Maybe you have a better place to start.

None of what you mentioned seems strange to me. In fact, that's part of my point with my dissatisfaction with the Republicans. The Fed, the IMF, the World Bank, the CFR, the Bildurberg Group and the Trilateral Commission are joined at the hip. All part of the same machine. Woodrow Wilson, hands down, did more to damage this nation than the rest of the lousy presidents combined. I just read an interesting book, 'The Creature From Jekyll Island', that opened my eyes some. It made me interested in something that had never caught my attention before.

Here's a few more names of those entrusted with the important Progressive job of manipulating public opinion and gathering wealth and power to the few. Looks like they're doing a bang-up job to me, and! They have a lot of people convinced that it's 'for the good of the public'! These are just some of the members of of the CFR:


Corporate membership[edit]

There are several levels of corporate membership. As of June 7, 2013 current members are:[5]
Founders Bank of America Merrill Lynch
Chevron Corporation
ExxonMobil Corporation
Goldman Sachs, Inc.
JPMorgan Chase & Co
Amererican Express
Barclays plc
Bloomberg L.P.
Citigroup
Credit Suisse
Dell, Inc.
Deutsche Bank
Lockheed Martin Corporation
McGraw–Hill
MetLife
Morgan Stanley
Shell Oil Company
Soros Fund Management
Standard Chartered Bank

Premium members

Allied World Assurance Company, Ltd.
American International Group
American Telephone & Telegraph
Bank of New York Mellon Corporation
Boeing Company
Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce
ConocoPhillips Company
Continental Properties
Equinox Partners, L.P.
General Electric Company
GlaxoSmithKline
Google, Inc.
IBM Corporation
Merck & Co., Inc.
Microsoft Corporation
News Corporation
Northrop Grumman
Occidental Petroleum Corporation
PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP (PwC)
Prudential Financial
Rothschild North America, Inc.
Standard & Poor's
T. Rowe Price Group
Time Warner Inc.


Notable current council members[edit]



This article needs additional citations for verification. Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. (June 2013)
Roger Ailes (Chairman and CEO of Fox News)
Madeleine Albright (64th United States Secretary of State, 20th United States Ambassador to the United Nations under Bill Clinton)
Lamar Alexander (45th Governor of Tennessee, United States Republican Senator, 5th United States Secretary of Education under George H.W. Bush)
Eliot Abrams (international lawyer, former state department official under Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush)
James Baker (61st Secretary of State of the United States under Bush-41, and 67th Secretary of the Treasury of the United States under Ronald Reagan, 10th & 16th White House chief of staff to President's Reagan and George H.W. Bush)
Peter Bergen (journalist, national security analyst for CNN)
Joe Biden (47th Vice-President of the United States)
Josh Bolten (22nd White House chief-of-staff under George W. Bush)
Sandy Berger (19th United States National Security Advisor under President Bill Clinton)
Warren Beatty (actor, film producer, director)
Michael R. Bloomberg (108th Mayor of New York City, founder of Bloomberg L.P.)
Erin Burnett (journalist, CNN anchor)
George H.W. Bush (41st President of the United States)
Tom Brokaw (NBC journalist)
Zbigniew Brzezinski (10th United States National Security Advisor under President Jimmy Carter)
Stephen Gerald Breyer (United States Supreme Court justice)
Jimmy Carter (39th President of the United States)
Frank Carlucci (16th Secretary of Defense and 15th U.S. national security adviser under Ronald Reagan, 13th deputy director of the Central Intelligence Agency under Jimmy Carter)
Dick Cheney (46th Vice-President of the United States)
Bill Clinton (42nd President of the United States)
Hillary Rodham Clinton(former First Lady of the United States, former United States Senator from New York, 67th United States Secretary of State under Barack Obama)
Mario Cuomo (Democratic politician, 52nd Governor of New York)
Michael Crow (president of Arizona State University)
Katie Couric (former CBS and NBC journalist, talk show host)
Edward F. Cox (international attorney, chairman of the New York Republican party, son-in-law of Richard Nixon)
Michael Dukakis (65th and 67th governor of Massachusetts, 1988 Democratic Party nominee for the Presidency)
John Edwards (former Democratic U.S. senator from North Carolina, 2004 Democratic Vice-Presidential nominee)
Roger W. Ferguson, Jr. (former vice-chairman of the Federal Reserve)
Noah Feldman (academic and author)
Dianne Feinstein (United States Democratic Party Senator from California)
Bill Frist (Republican politician, former United States Senate Majority Leader of the United States Senate)
Mikhail Fridman (Russian oligarch, International Advisory Board member)
Thomas Friedman (columnist for The New York Times)
Robert M. Gates (22nd United States Secretary of Defense under Bush & Obama, 15th Director of Central Intelligence under George H.W. Bush)
Dick Gephardt (22nd Majority Leader of the United States House of Representatives)
Alan Greenspan (13th Chairman of the Federal Reserve)
Maurice R. Greenberg (former chairman and CEO of AIG)
Bob Graham (Democratic Party 38th governor of Florida and United States Senator)
Timothy Geithner {75th secretary of the treasury under Obama, 9th president of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York}
Mikhail Gorbachev (former President of the USSR)
Newt Gingrich (58th Speaker of the United States House of Representatives)
Ruth Bader Ginsburg (United States Supreme Court justice)
Tenzin Gyatso (14th Dalai Lama)
Michael Hayden (United States Air Force general, 15th director of the National Security Agency under Bill Clinton, and 20th director of the CIA under George W. Bush)
Chris Heinz (heir to the H. J. Heinz Company ketchup fortune)
Angelina Jolie (actress, UN Goodwill Ambassador)
John Kerry(former United States Senator from Massachusetts, 68th United States Secretary of State under Barack Obama, 2004 Democratic Party nominee for the Presidency)
Vanessa Kerry (doctor of medicine, liberal activist, daughter of John Kerry)
Henry Kissinger (8th National Security Advisor under Richard Nixon and 56th United States Secretary of State under President's Nixon and Ford)
Charles Krauthammer (columnist for the Washington Post and political commentator at Fox News)
Jim Lehrer (journalist, former anchor for PBS)
Joe Lieberman (former United States Independent Senator from Connecticut)
Lewis Libby (attorney, former chief-of-staff to Vice-President Dick Cheney)
John McCain (United States Republican Senator from Arizona, 2008 Republican Party nominee for the Presidency)
George J. Mitchell (17th Senate Majority Leader of the United States Senate}
Walter Mondale (42nd Vice-President of the United States)
Les Moonves (President and Chief Executive Officer of CBS)
Bill Moyers (former press-secretary to Lyndon Johnson, public commentator for PBS)
Rupert Murdoch (founder/chairman/CEO of News Corp and Fox News)
Heather Nauert (journalist and anchor for Fox News)
Janet Napolitano (3rd United States Secretary of Homeland Security under Obama, 21st Governor of Arizona)
John D. Negroponte (former United States Deputy Secretary of State and former Director of National Intelligence under George W. Bush)
Sandra Day O'Connor (former United States Supreme Court justice)
Stan O'Neal (former Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board of Merrill Lynch)
George Pataki (Republican politician, 53rd Governor of New York)
Henry Paulson (74th United States Treasury Secretary under George W. Bush)
Robert Pastor (national security adviser, son-in-law to Robert McNamara)
David Petraeus (United States Army General, former head of CENTCOM, 22nd director of the CIA)
Colin Powell (65th United States Secretary of State under Bush-43, 16th National Security Advisor under Reagan, 12th Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under Bush-41)
Priscilla Presley (actress and former chairwoman of the board of Elvis Presley Enterprises)
Janet Reno (78th United States Attorney General under Clinton)
Condoleezza Rice (66th United States Secretary of State under Bush-43)
Dan Rather (journalist, formerly anchor at CBS)
Charles Rangel (United States Democratic Congressman from New York City)
David Rockefeller, Jr.
John D. Rockefeller, IV (United States Democratic Party Senator of West Virginia, 29th Governor of West Virginia)
Charlie Rose (PBS journalist and The Early Show anchor)
Robert Rubin (70th Secretary of the Treasury under Bill Clinton)
Diane Sawyer (ABC News journalist)
Dan Senor (former foreign policy advisor to George W. Bush, former Fox News foreign policy analyst)
Karenna Gore Schiff (daughter of Al Gore)
Olympia J. Snowe (former Republican United States Senator from Maine)
Brent Scowcroft (9th & 17th United States National Security Advisor under Presidents Gerald Ford and George H. W. Bush)
George Shultz (60th United States Secretary of State under Reagan, 62nd United States Secretary of the Treasury and 11th United States Secretary of Labor under Richard Nixon}
George Soros (currency speculator, investor, businessman)
Lesley Stahl (CBS News journalist)
Donna Shalala (18th United States Secretary of Health and Human Services under Bill Clinton, President of the University of Miami)
Eduard Shevardnadze (2nd President of Georgia)
Eric Shinseki (7th United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs under Obama, 34th Chief of Staff of the United States Army under Clinton & Bush)
Adlai Stevenson III (former Democratic United States Senator from Illinois, son of Adlai Stevenson II)
George Stephanopoulos (former White House press-secretary under Bill Clinton, Good Morning America anchor, This Week with George Stephanopoulos host)
John L. Thornton (chairman of Brookings Institution, academic, former president of Goldman Sachs}
Fred Thompson (attorney, actor, radio talk-show host, former Republican United States Senator from Tennessee,)
Frances Townsend {former United States Homeland Security Advisor}
Kathleen Kennedy Townsend (Former Democratic Lieutenant Governor of Maryland, member of the Kennedy family)
Paul Volcker (12th Chairman of the Federal Reserve)
Peter J. Wallison (20th White House Counsel to Ronald Reagan, former lawyer to Nelson Rockefeller)
Barbara Walters (ABC News journalist)
John C. Whitehead (chairman of the World Trade Center Memorial Foundation, former United States Deputy Secretary of State under Ronald Reagan, former Goldman Sachs chairman)
Christine Todd Whitman (50th Governor of New Jersey, 9th administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency under George W. Bush)
Oprah Winfrey (media mogul, actress, founder of Harpo Inc.)
James D. Wolfensohn (former president of the World Bank)
Paul Wolfowitz (10th President of the World Bank, former U.S. Deputy Secretary of Defense under Bush-43)
Paula Zahn (journalist, former anchor at Fox News and CNN)
James Zogby (academic, political commentator and pollster)
Robert Zoellick (11th President of the World Bank)

Current Emeritus and Honorary Officers and Directors[edit]
Leslie H. Gelb (President Emeritus)
Maurice R. Greenberg (Honorary Vice Chairman)
Peter G. Peterson (Chairman Emeritus)
David Rockefeller (Honorary Chairman)

Notable historical members[edit]

Les Aspin {democrat congressman from Wisconsin, 18th United States Secretary of Defense under Bill Clinton}
William F. Buckley, Jr (commentator, publisher, founder of the National Review)
Heidi Nelson Cruz {Investment banker, wife of Texas Senator Ted Cruz}
Monica Crowley (former Richard Nixon aide, radio host, and columnist)
Warren Christopher (former United States Secretary of State)
Allen Dulles (former Director of the CIA)
Lawrence Eagleburger (former United States Secretary of State under President George H. W. Bush)
Gerald Ford (38th President of the United States of America)
Geraldine Ferraro (former Democratic New York congresswoman, first woman on a major party presidential ticket in 1984)
Alexander Haig (United States Army General, 59th Secretary of State of the United States under Ronald Reagan)
Sidney Harman (businessman, owner of Newsweek)
Armand Hammer (businessman, investor)
Herbert Hoover (31st President of the United States)
Jack Kemp (Hall of Fame quarterback, Republican congressman from New York, 9th United States Secretary of Housing and Urban Development under Bush-41, 1996 Republican Vice-Presidential nominee)
Jeane Kirkpatrick (diplomat, 16th United States Ambassador to the United Nations)
George McGovern (former Democratic senator from South Dakota, 1972 Democratic Party nominee for President)
Robert McNamara (8th Secretary of Defense under Presidents John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson, 5th President of the World Bank)
Daniel Patrick Moynihan (diplomat, former Democratic Senator from New York)
Edmund Muskie (58th Secretary of State of the United States)
Richard M. Nixon (37th President of the United States)
David Rockefeller
Nelson Rockefeller (41st Vice-President of the United States, and Governor of New York)
John D. Rockefeller 3rd
Dean Rusk (54th Secretary of State of the United States under Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson)
Carl Sagan (American scientist)
Tony Snow (former press secretary to George W. Bush, journalist, radio talk-show host)
Shirley Temple (actress, diplomat)
Cyrus Vance (57th Secretary of State of the United States under Jimmy Carter)
Rick Warren (American Christian leader, Senior Pastor of the Saddleback Church
Paul Warburg (banker)
Caspar Weinberger (15th Secretary of Defense for the United States under Ronald Reagan)
Who said I was opposed to change? What do you mean... (show quote)


VERY TRUE and pretty ACCURATE that I can see.. some new names have been added as they continue to recruit...
Problem is how do we get the DOUBTERS to understand all this Mike...
They just can't digest it...
Thank You very much for putting this in there...
I hope everyone READS IT in it's entirety among other things they are COMPLETELY IGNORANT to...
GOD HELP US and the WILLING !

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Jul 7, 2014 19:56:05   #
Sicilianthing
 
Kay Littrell wrote:
I see that you have the Tea Party Darling, Cuban Expatriate, Canadian citizen and Texas Presidential want-to-be Ted Cruz's wife listed as an enemy of the state.

I will be waiting with baited breath to see how the TPs spin this little 14th Amendment question. Always remember that what goes around in the end comes around.

I don't remember seeing one Colonel (honorary) Edward M. House listed on your enemy's of the state rogue's gallery.

In late 1911 Col. (honorary) Ed House traveled to New Jersey to pay a visit to former Princeton University President and present New Jersey Governor Thomas Woodrow Wilson. (Woodrow was his mother's family name) This meeting less than a year before the 1912 Presidential election as the first time that Wilson or Col. House had ever laid eyes on each other. House was looking for an accolade to run as the Democrat Party nominee in the 1912 Presidential election. In less than 1 year of this meeting Wilson was President Elect of the United States. Here is one pitch that the Texas Banking Honorary Colonel Edward House made to Woodrow Wilson during the run up to the creation of the Federal Reserve.

“[Very] soon, every American will be required to register their biological property in a national system designed to keep track of the people and that will operate under the ancient system of pledging. By such methodology, we can compel people to submit to our agenda, which will effect our security as a chargeback for our fiat paper currency. Every American will be forced to register or suffer being unable to work and earn a living. They will be our chattel, and we will hold the security interest over them forever, by operation of the law merchant under the scheme of secured transactions.

Americans, by unknowingly or unwittingly delivering the bills of lading to us will be rendered bankrupt and insolvent, forever to remain economic slaves through taxation, secured by their pledges. They will be stripped of their rights and given a commercial value designed to make us a profit and they will be none the wiser, for not one man in a million could ever figure our plans and, if by accident one or two should figure it out, we have in our arsenal plausible deniability. After all, this is the only logical way to fund government, by floating liens and debt to the registrants in the form of benefits and privileges. This will inevitably reap to us huge profits beyond our wildest expectations and leave every American a contributor to this fraud which we will call “Social Insurance.” Without realizing it, every American will insure us for any loss we may incur and in this manner, every American will unknowingly be our servant, however begrudgingly. The people will become helpless and without any hope for their redemption and, we will employ the high office of the President of our dummy corporation to foment this plot against America." -- Honorary Colonel Edward Mandell House 1913.
I see that you have the Tea Party Darling, Cuban E... (show quote)


Well some members have come and gone and others don't always get published for some strange reason...

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Jul 7, 2014 20:00:29   #
saddletramp
 
The thing is Ms. Kay,the crook paid for a lot of votes.Does that not bother you?I already think the election for President is rigged,how can anyone look passed this.It is an outrage!$15 buys one vote,a real bargain.Why not pick a dictator and fire Congress.The way things are going,it will not matter soon.Anyone who cares is a racist to many,and they are so wrong.I admit our current Congress is nothing more than a joke.A bunch of folks who become wealthy,at our expense.All of us.I would rather pick people out of any phone book to replace all of them,all the way to the top.Just find Americans.

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Jul 7, 2014 20:11:10   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
saddletramp wrote:
The thing is Ms. Kay,the crook paid for a lot of votes.Does that not bother you?I already think the election for President is rigged,how can anyone look passed this.It is an outrage!$15 buys one vote,a real bargain.Why not pick a dictator and fire Congress.The way things are going,it will not matter soon.Anyone who cares is a racist to many,and they are so wrong.I admit our current Congress is nothing more than a joke.A bunch of folks who become wealthy,at our expense.All of us.I would rather pick people out of any phone book to replace all of them,all the way to the top.Just find Americans.
The thing is Ms. Kay,the crook paid for a lot of v... (show quote)


Those that love America.

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Jul 7, 2014 22:05:30   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Kay Littrell wrote:
I see that you have the Tea Party Darling, Cuban Expatriate, Canadian citizen and Texas Presidential want-to-be Ted Cruz's wife listed as an enemy of the state.

I will be waiting with baited breath to see how the TPs spin this little 14th Amendment question. Always remember that what goes around in the end comes around.

I don't remember seeing one Colonel (honorary) Edward M. House listed on your enemy's of the state rogue's gallery.

In late 1911 Col. (honorary) Ed House traveled to New Jersey to pay a visit to former Princeton University President and present New Jersey Governor Thomas Woodrow Wilson. (Woodrow was his mother's family name) This meeting less than a year before the 1912 Presidential election as the first time that Wilson or Col. House had ever laid eyes on each other. House was looking for an accolade to run as the Democrat Party nominee in the 1912 Presidential election. In less than 1 year of this meeting Wilson was President Elect of the United States. Here is one pitch that the Texas Banking Honorary Colonel Edward House made to Woodrow Wilson during the run up to the creation of the Federal Reserve.

“[Very] soon, every American will be required to register their biological property in a national system designed to keep track of the people and that will operate under the ancient system of pledging. By such methodology, we can compel people to submit to our agenda, which will effect our security as a chargeback for our fiat paper currency. Every American will be forced to register or suffer being unable to work and earn a living. They will be our chattel, and we will hold the security interest over them forever, by operation of the law merchant under the scheme of secured transactions.

Americans, by unknowingly or unwittingly delivering the bills of lading to us will be rendered bankrupt and insolvent, forever to remain economic slaves through taxation, secured by their pledges. They will be stripped of their rights and given a commercial value designed to make us a profit and they will be none the wiser, for not one man in a million could ever figure our plans and, if by accident one or two should figure it out, we have in our arsenal plausible deniability. After all, this is the only logical way to fund government, by floating liens and debt to the registrants in the form of benefits and privileges. This will inevitably reap to us huge profits beyond our wildest expectations and leave every American a contributor to this fraud which we will call “Social Insurance.” Without realizing it, every American will insure us for any loss we may incur and in this manner, every American will unknowingly be our servant, however begrudgingly. The people will become helpless and without any hope for their redemption and, we will employ the high office of the President of our dummy corporation to foment this plot against America." -- Honorary Colonel Edward Mandell House 1913.
I see that you have the Tea Party Darling, Cuban E... (show quote)



I seriously edited the list for the sake of brevity, but he was not listed, and neither were some other noteworthy's. Ronald Reagan, I believe should also have been on the list. I doubt, too, that many would know who House was. But the fact that you do is gratifying. Apologies for my rudeness. We may be closer in understanding than was apparent at first.

I noticed the Cruz connection too, which is why that was a name I did not edit. I trust the movement, but not the politicians who jumped out in front of it. I also noticed a heck of a lot of other people, Republicans and Democrats, 'liberal' and 'conservative'. It's plain to me that the degree to which we have deviated from the intent of the framers of the Constitution is much more severe than anyone in politics dares talk about - especially since most of them don't want us to know.

Colonel House has a good sized section in 'The Creature From Jekyll Island', and there's a lot of info out there that I haven't read yet. It's pretty detailed stuff and takes a long time to go through. I work too many hours to devote as much time as I'd like to on it.

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Jul 7, 2014 22:25:51   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
She is weird, isn't she BigMike?

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Jul 7, 2014 22:32:09   #
saddletramp
 
We all know we were stuck with the Federal Reserve by crooks,that will never be fixed.Not in our lifetimes.What can we do to fix what can still be changed?There is not a lot of time left,we all need to be on the same side.We can not change the past.But there is a chance to change our future.Can we all try to work together,do we not all want America to survive?If it does not,neither do we.There is common ground,I hope.

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Jul 7, 2014 22:43:51   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Old_Gringo wrote:
She is weird, isn't she BigMike?


It seems like she's making the TP the object of her wrath because it's easier than dealing with what's really bothering her. I don't know, but it's obvious she has a grasp on what the BIG problems are.

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Jul 7, 2014 22:53:49   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
BigMike wrote:
It seems like she's making the TP the object of her wrath because it's easier than dealing with what's really bothering her. I don't know, but it's obvious she has a grasp on what the BIG problems are.


Yep, she does vacillate, but saves her venom for the TP.

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Jul 8, 2014 01:23:23   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Old_Gringo wrote:
Yep, she does vacillate, but saves her venom for the TP.


Here's video done by Andrew Napolitano shortly before he was fired by Fox. It explains our conundrum with breathtaking clarity! I urge you all to watch it if you haven't already seen it. If you've seen it, watch it again!

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=52b_1329796059

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Jul 8, 2014 03:03:32   #
Kay Littrell
 
saddletramp wrote:
Who would sell a vote for $15?What is a gallon of Mad Dog 20 20 going for today?It was meant as joke,but I think there is a lot of truth there.And old Thad knew it.


Some of you must think that two Illegal Aliens named R2-D2 or C-3PO are registered voters. In local elections my maternal Grand Father's vote was worth a 10 pound sack of sugar or else a 25 pound sack of cornmeal. Times were hard back then.

If the Tea Party wants to win elections they would do well to emulate Congressman Davey Crocket of Tennessee who plied his electorate with fresh corn liquor and dried T-Backey.

Almost 150 years ago the GOP chartered trains, called "the cars" at the time. The cars job was to carry voters from the state line as far as the cars could travel in 12 hours, but still allowing time for the train riders to disembark and vote in every whistle stop and town.

As a condition of continued employment the Yellow Dog Democrats required every public employee and their family members to hold their filled in paper ballot up to an exterior window in the polling place. This was so that the local powers that be could sleep at night, knowing that every school teacher, jailor, janitor, clerk and garbage man voted 'correctly'.

If the Tea Party wants to win elections then they better learn how to beg, borrow, and steal votes themselves. :mrgreen:

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