Please tell me you know Trump is lying when he claims child separations are the result of Democrat's law: There is no law requiring separation of immigrant children from their parents.

Tgards79

There is no law requiring separation of immigrant children from their parents. NO LAW at all, much less a Democratic law. The separations are the result of Jeff Sessions' "zero tolerance" policy. So Trump is lying. Please tell me you understand all this.

Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA

Tgards79 wrote:

There is no law requiring separation of immigrant children from their parents. NO LAW at all, much less a Democratic law. The separations are the result of Jeff Sessions' "zero tolerance" policy. So Trump is lying. Please tell me you understand all this.

No. He's not lying.

The law Trump is following was passed by Congress and signed by Bill Clinton in 1997

The courts later made it impossible to keep the families together when they ruled as follows:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/05/illegal-immigration-enforcement-separating-kids-at-border/

Excerpt:

"Where it becomes much more of an issue is if the adult files an asylum claim. In that scenario, the adults are almost certainly going to be detained longer than the government is allowed to hold their children.

That’s because of something called the Flores Consent Decree from 1997. It says that unaccompanied children can be held only 20 days. A ruling by the Ninth Circuit extended this 20-day limit to children who come as part of family units. So even if we want to hold a family unit together, we are forbidden from doing so."

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The only thing Trump can be blamed for is not "ignoring" the law.

Thus endith the lesson

vernon

Tgards79 wrote:

There is no law requiring separation of immigrant children from their parents. NO LAW at all, much less a Democratic law. The separations are the result of Jeff Sessions' "zero tolerance" policy. So Trump is lying. Please tell me you understand all this.

There dam sure was and obama used it when he had all those kids coming from mexico.but I didnt hear you whiners crying when it came out that a bunch of them,16 teen of them if i remember correctly. were given to a predator. And they were packed up and taken to people all over the country and placed with illegals and they had no choice in the matter.You characters ar5e trying to make something out of this but when obama did it you kept your mouth shut.Your just a blubblering
lying no good that no one listens to.

EmilyD

Tgards79 wrote:

There is no law requiring separation of immigrant children from their parents. NO LAW at all, much less a Democratic law. The separations are the result of Jeff Sessions' "zero tolerance" policy. So Trump is lying. Please tell me you understand all this.

Zero tolerance = following the law. The law has been in place for a long time. All this is is that there will be no more tolerance when the law is broken. If you don't like the law, lobby your congressman to change it.

Tgards79

EmilyD wrote:

Zero tolerance = following the law. The law has been in place for a long time. All this is is that there will be no more tolerance when the law is broken. If you don't like the law, lobby your congressman to change it.

Zero tolerance is a brand new Trump policy. Neither Bush nor Obama embraced "zero tolerance" in terms of separating children from parents. No law requires it. They thought it was immoral and reprehensible. Trump should do the same, and he could do the same, in one second, if he wished. This is HIS CHOICE.

youngwilliam Loc: Deep in the heart

Tgards79 wrote:

Zero tolerance is a brand new Trump policy. Neither Bush nor Obama embraced "zero tolerance" in terms of separating children from parents. No law requires it. They thought it was immoral and reprehensible. Trump should do the same, and he could do the same, in one second, if he wished. This is HIS CHOICE.

Wow you are dense. Super Dave laid it all out for you and you still could not comprehend it.

Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas

Super Dave wrote:

No. He's not lying. br br The law Trump is follow... (show quote)

Yeppers; This is All True...Thanks

EmilyD

Tgards79 wrote:

Zero tolerance is a brand new Trump policy. Neither Bush nor Obama embraced "zero tolerance" in terms of separating children from parents. No law requires it. They thought it was immoral and reprehensible. Trump should do the same, and he could do the same, in one second, if he wished. This is HIS CHOICE.

Since you obviously don't want to read the article that Super Dave posted, I'll paste a snip from it:

"The latest furor over Trump immigration policy involves the separation of children from parents at the border.

As usual, the outrage obscures more than it illuminates, so it’s worth walking through what’s happening here.

For the longest time, illegal immigration was driven by single males from Mexico. Over the last decade, the flow has shifted to women, children, and family units from Central America. This poses challenges we haven’t confronted before and has made what once were relatively minor wrinkles in the law loom very large.

The Trump administration isn’t changing the rules that pertain to separating an adult from the child. Those remain the same. Separation happens only if officials find that the adult is falsely claiming to be the child’s parent, or is a threat to the child, or is put into criminal proceedings.

It’s the last that is operative here. The past practice had been to give a free pass to an adult who is part of a family unit. The new Trump policy is to prosecute all adults. The idea is to send a signal that we are serious about our laws and to create a deterrent against re-entry."

So you don't like it that Sessions is making people obey the law. To become a legal immigrant to the US, one has to undergo a thorough medical exam, learn English, learn how to read and write English and OBEY our laws. Right out of the gate they are disobeying our laws, and Trump is sending the message that he will not tolerate this any more. Things are getting out of hand, and someone has to do something about it. Call it tough love, or something, but if they are not going to give him the wall, he is going to stop the inflow of illegals one way or another. If they don't want to be separated from their children, COME HERE THE RIGHT WAY. Since the adult is put into criminal proceedings when they come here illegally, they have to separate the children. Trump is not buying their bogus claim that they are here for asylum.

Tgards79

EmilyD wrote:

Since you obviously don't want to read the article... (show quote)

I call it immoral, and so did Bush 43. Reprehensible. Horrific. Makingsmall children victims. Un-American. Pathetic.

EmilyD

Tgards79 wrote:

I call it immoral, and so did Bush 43. Reprehensible. Horrific. Makingsmall children victims. Un-American. Pathetic.

So what do we do? Where are these families going to stay? Are you willing to take in a family and feed, house and clothe them until their trial comes up in two months or two years? Do you want the government to pay for housing for them? What is your solution, and where is the money coming from to execute it, if you have one.

EmilyD

Tgards79 wrote:

I call it immoral, and so did Bush 43. Reprehensible. Horrific. Makingsmall children victims. Un-American. Pathetic.

Trump is sending a message to the world with this. Don't come to America, unless you do it the legal way. If you try to do it illegally, you will be separated from your children. If you don't want that to happen - get in line with the rest of the people who want to come here legally. IMO, by coming here illegally with their children, they are the ones at fault for all the crying.

Tgards79

EmilyD wrote:

Trump is sending a message to the world with this. Don't come to America, unless you do it the legal way. If you try to do it illegally, you will be separated from your children. If you don't want that to happen - get in line with the rest of the people who want to come here legally.

And using small defenseless children to send that message. Immoral. And not American values.

Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas

EmilyD wrote:

So what do we do? Where are these families going to stay? Are you willing to take in a family and feed, house and clothe them until their trial comes up in two months or two years? Do you want the government to pay for housing for them? What is your solution, and where is the money coming from to execute it, if you have one.

He could always ask the Klintoon Foundation to pay for it. ((laughin))
By The way GW Bush followed the same protocol as the Trumpy...these SJW's think we don't have a memory.

EmilyD

Tgards79 wrote:

And using small defenseless children to send that message. Immoral. And not American values.

Then the parents should not try to use their children to get here illegally, either. They should go back and try to come here legally. This message is not just for these 200 people, it is for the whole world - don't come here illegally or you will be separated from your children. It's the PARENT's fault, not Trump's.

EmilyD

Crayons wrote:

He could always ask the Klintoon Foundation to pay for it. ((laughin))
By The way GW Bush followed the same protocol as the Trumpy...these SJW's think we don't have a memory.

I think it's more sinister than it looks. I think that someone who really hates that Trump won (like Soros or Clinton..) is paying for these people to get together and challenge the laws at the border, so that Trump will look bad for the mid-terms. It sounds THAT desperate to me.