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Jun 15, 2018 16:32:47   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
It is really depressing watching the constant battle between Republicans and Democrats, liberals vs. conservatives and so on. If that isn't bad enough, there are factions within the above categories, providing more chaos, mayhem and confusion. What are they fighting about anyway?

Everyone should realize that there WILL be a shift in the Congress, since there always is, and all should realize that there will be a new President eventually, providing another shift. Based on current history, the entire agenda of the new regime will be focused on undoing every single thing the last regime did, fought every step of the way by the losing side. Which ever side is in charge when all the judges die off, will be able to stack the courts with their own toadies. Until recently, I was unaware that there were two Constitutions, one for liberals and one for conservatives. Do we get to choose which laws we have to obey?

We here all the time the phrase " the direction the country is heading " and the like, but it's easy to see that the country isn't heading in ANY direction, it's just swinging back and forth, which means - it isn't going anywhere. Ever seen one of those old clocks with the pendulum? No one ever reported their clock malfunctioned, because the pendulum moved to the other side of the room. No, they just swing from one side to the other.

Regardless of what happens in the midterms, or two years later in the next Presidential elections, we're going to be screwed either way. Either Democrats or Republicans will rule the Congress, and we'll either have Trump or a Democrat sitting on the throne................and the same useless, chaotic, damaging crap will continue...................just like it has for the last century. The losers will continue to undermine the winners, just like Republicans did under Obama and Democrats are doing now. The new winners will spend most of their time undoing what the previous winners did.

In short, nobody really wins, at least - not for long. There are some Republicans that will never accept anything accomplished by a Democrat and visa versa, even when it's some damn good stuff, it's the principle and all that crap. What we can count on however, is that we the people will lose....................just like we've always lost....................for over a century. I'm wondering when ( maybe I should say "if" ) the American people are going to get tired of this never ending circus. America did just fine during it's first 50 years or so.......................without a single Democrat or Republican..................so we know it CAN be done..................but only when we want to.

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Jun 15, 2018 17:11:20   #
Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 
lpnmajor wrote:
America did just fine during it's first 50 years or so.......................without a single Democrat or Republican..................so we know it CAN be done..................but only when we want to.


Early Americans were leaner, stronger and in many ways smarter.
Government was small and did only what it was supposed to do;
IE: Fight King George

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Jun 15, 2018 17:56:32   #
Weasel Loc: In the Great State Of Indiana!!
 
Crayons wrote:
Early Americans were leaner, stronger and in many ways smarter.
Government was small and did only what it was supposed to do;
IE: Fight King George


Let's get the pantywaist's out of there. We Americans are a lot smarter now in regards to all the Bull*^▪¡#. That's why its called draining the swamp!
IE. King Trump, as Time Magazine Puts It.
Keep America Great,

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Jun 15, 2018 18:01:30   #
moldyoldy
 
lpnmajor wrote:
It is really depressing watching the constant battle between Republicans and Democrats, liberals vs. conservatives and so on. If that isn't bad enough, there are factions within the above categories, providing more chaos, mayhem and confusion. What are they fighting about anyway?

Everyone should realize that there WILL be a shift in the Congress, since there always is, and all should realize that there will be a new President eventually, providing another shift. Based on current history, the entire agenda of the new regime will be focused on undoing every single thing the last regime did, fought every step of the way by the losing side. Which ever side is in charge when all the judges die off, will be able to stack the courts with their own toadies. Until recently, I was unaware that there were two Constitutions, one for liberals and one for conservatives. Do we get to choose which laws we have to obey?

We here all the time the phrase " the direction the country is heading " and the like, but it's easy to see that the country isn't heading in ANY direction, it's just swinging back and forth, which means - it isn't going anywhere. Ever seen one of those old clocks with the pendulum? No one ever reported their clock malfunctioned, because the pendulum moved to the other side of the room. No, they just swing from one side to the other.

Regardless of what happens in the midterms, or two years later in the next Presidential elections, we're going to be screwed either way. Either Democrats or Republicans will rule the Congress, and we'll either have Trump or a Democrat sitting on the throne................and the same useless, chaotic, damaging crap will continue...................just like it has for the last century. The losers will continue to undermine the winners, just like Republicans did under Obama and Democrats are doing now. The new winners will spend most of their time undoing what the previous winners did.

In short, nobody really wins, at least - not for long. There are some Republicans that will never accept anything accomplished by a Democrat and visa versa, even when it's some damn good stuff, it's the principle and all that crap. What we can count on however, is that we the people will lose....................just like we've always lost....................for over a century. I'm wondering when ( maybe I should say "if" ) the American people are going to get tired of this never ending circus. America did just fine during it's first 50 years or so.......................without a single Democrat or Republican..................so we know it CAN be done..................but only when we want to.
It is really depressing watching the constant batt... (show quote)


I have to disagree with you. In the past I never worried about the country, I knew it would recover from the policy changes of right and left. Now we have a corrupt egomaniac who seems intent on dismantling the government, destroying relations with allies, aligning with despots, and doing exactly what putin has always wanted, separate all alliances that other countries enjoy.

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Jun 15, 2018 18:04:53   #
maryjane
 
lpnmajor wrote:
It is really depressing watching the constant battle between Republicans and Democrats, liberals vs. conservatives and so on. If that isn't bad enough, there are factions within the above categories, providing more chaos, mayhem and confusion. What are they fighting about anyway?

Everyone should realize that there WILL be a shift in the Congress, since there always is, and all should realize that there will be a new President eventually, providing another shift. Based on current history, the entire agenda of the new regime will be focused on undoing every single thing the last regime did, fought every step of the way by the losing side. Which ever side is in charge when all the judges die off, will be able to stack the courts with their own toadies. Until recently, I was unaware that there were two Constitutions, one for liberals and one for conservatives. Do we get to choose which laws we have to obey?

We here all the time the phrase " the direction the country is heading " and the like, but it's easy to see that the country isn't heading in ANY direction, it's just swinging back and forth, which means - it isn't going anywhere. Ever seen one of those old clocks with the pendulum? No one ever reported their clock malfunctioned, because the pendulum moved to the other side of the room. No, they just swing from one side to the other.

Regardless of what happens in the midterms, or two years later in the next Presidential elections, we're going to be screwed either way. Either Democrats or Republicans will rule the Congress, and we'll either have Trump or a Democrat sitting on the throne................and the same useless, chaotic, damaging crap will continue...................just like it has for the last century. The losers will continue to undermine the winners, just like Republicans did under Obama and Democrats are doing now. The new winners will spend most of their time undoing what the previous winners did.

In short, nobody really wins, at least - not for long. There are some Republicans that will never accept anything accomplished by a Democrat and visa versa, even when it's some damn good stuff, it's the principle and all that crap. What we can count on however, is that we the people will lose....................just like we've always lost....................for over a century. I'm wondering when ( maybe I should say "if" ) the American people are going to get tired of this never ending circus. America did just fine during it's first 50 years or so.......................without a single Democrat or Republican..................so we know it CAN be done..................but only when we want to.
It is really depressing watching the constant batt... (show quote)


Unfortunately, I agree with you. When it comes to some issues like immigration, there really seems to be little, if any, difference between the two parties. But, the worst part is that very few of them, if any, ever put the needs and interests of the country first. They always make their decisions on what's best for themselves, their rich corporate sponsors and foreigners and illegal aliens. NO matter how many millions of we regular citizens scream/beg/plead, how loudly or how often, we are NEVER HEARD, but the illegal aliens are always looked out for.

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Jun 15, 2018 19:14:19   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
lpnmajor wrote:
It is really depressing watching the constant battle between Republicans and Democrats, liberals vs. conservatives and so on. If that isn't bad enough, there are factions within the above categories, providing more chaos, mayhem and confusion. What are they fighting about anyway?

Everyone should realize that there WILL be a shift in the Congress, since there always is, and all should realize that there will be a new President eventually, providing another shift. Based on current history, the entire agenda of the new regime will be focused on undoing every single thing the last regime did, fought every step of the way by the losing side. Which ever side is in charge when all the judges die off, will be able to stack the courts with their own toadies. Until recently, I was unaware that there were two Constitutions, one for liberals and one for conservatives. Do we get to choose which laws we have to obey?

We here all the time the phrase " the direction the country is heading " and the like, but it's easy to see that the country isn't heading in ANY direction, it's just swinging back and forth, which means - it isn't going anywhere. Ever seen one of those old clocks with the pendulum? No one ever reported their clock malfunctioned, because the pendulum moved to the other side of the room. No, they just swing from one side to the other.

Regardless of what happens in the midterms, or two years later in the next Presidential elections, we're going to be screwed either way. Either Democrats or Republicans will rule the Congress, and we'll either have Trump or a Democrat sitting on the throne................and the same useless, chaotic, damaging crap will continue...................just like it has for the last century. The losers will continue to undermine the winners, just like Republicans did under Obama and Democrats are doing now. The new winners will spend most of their time undoing what the previous winners did.

In short, nobody really wins, at least - not for long. There are some Republicans that will never accept anything accomplished by a Democrat and visa versa, even when it's some damn good stuff, it's the principle and all that crap. What we can count on however, is that we the people will lose....................just like we've always lost....................for over a century. I'm wondering when ( maybe I should say "if" ) the American people are going to get tired of this never ending circus. America did just fine during it's first 50 years or so.......................without a single Democrat or Republican..................so we know it CAN be done..................but only when we want to.
It is really depressing watching the constant batt... (show quote)


You know, as much as I disagree with, or possibly misunderstand you; we are now on the same page.

Ole Granny used to say, "Sometimes you gotta shovel a lotta shit to find the pony."

Maybe we found the pony.

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Jun 15, 2018 19:32:27   #
Chocura750
 
I disagree about decisions not really mattering. Trump has done acts which will speed global warming, perhaps pushing the world beyond the tipping point. His fiscal actions will perhaps fatally damage the economy.

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Jun 15, 2018 19:35:09   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Chocura750 wrote:
I disagree about decisions not really mattering. Trump has done acts which will speed global warming, perhaps pushing the world beyond the tipping point. His fiscal actions will perhaps fatally damage the economy.


Take off your team jersey. Then step back, and give er a look.

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Jun 16, 2018 00:00:38   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
Chocura750 wrote:
I disagree about decisions not really mattering. Trump has done acts which will speed global warming, perhaps pushing the world beyond the tipping point. His fiscal actions will perhaps fatally damage the economy.


I promise...... the sky is not falling! It’s just a conspiracy theory!

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Jun 16, 2018 06:49:47   #
SilentGeneration Loc: Michigan
 
lpnmajor wrote:
It is really depressing watching the constant battle between Republicans and Democrats, liberals vs. conservatives and so on. If that isn't bad enough, there are factions within the above categories, providing more chaos, mayhem and confusion. What are they fighting about anyway?

Everyone should realize that there WILL be a shift in the Congress, since there always is, and all should realize that there will be a new President eventually, providing another shift. Based on current history, the entire agenda of the new regime will be focused on undoing every single thing the last regime did, fought every step of the way by the losing side. Which ever side is in charge when all the judges die off, will be able to stack the courts with their own toadies. Until recently, I was unaware that there were two Constitutions, one for liberals and one for conservatives. Do we get to choose which laws we have to obey?

We here all the time the phrase " the direction the country is heading " and the like, but it's easy to see that the country isn't heading in ANY direction, it's just swinging back and forth, which means - it isn't going anywhere. Ever seen one of those old clocks with the pendulum? No one ever reported their clock malfunctioned, because the pendulum moved to the other side of the room. No, they just swing from one side to the other.

Regardless of what happens in the midterms, or two years later in the next Presidential elections, we're going to be screwed either way. Either Democrats or Republicans will rule the Congress, and we'll either have Trump or a Democrat sitting on the throne................and the same useless, chaotic, damaging crap will continue...................just like it has for the last century. The losers will continue to undermine the winners, just like Republicans did under Obama and Democrats are doing now. The new winners will spend most of their time undoing what the previous winners did.

In short, nobody really wins, at least - not for long. There are some Republicans that will never accept anything accomplished by a Democrat and visa versa, even when it's some damn good stuff, it's the principle and all that crap. What we can count on however, is that we the people will lose....................just like we've always lost....................for over a century. I'm wondering when ( maybe I should say "if" ) the American people are going to get tired of this never ending circus. America did just fine during it's first 50 years or so.......................without a single Democrat or Republican..................so we know it CAN be done..................but only when we want to.
It is really depressing watching the constant batt... (show quote)


I agree with this post. I remember references to political alliances (Tories v. Whigs) going back to our founding years. Seems to me the difference is that the common interest of the country was foremost. Another difference is that we didn't have career politicians then. The intent was to serve a term or maybe two and then return home to their regular jobs.

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Jun 16, 2018 07:30:01   #
Big Kahuna
 
Chocura750 wrote:
I disagree about decisions not really mattering. Trump has done acts which will speed global warming, perhaps pushing the world beyond the tipping point. His fiscal actions will perhaps fatally damage the economy.


Yes, and if all Americans move to California , the west coast may fall into the ocean from all the weight. Remember when that great congressman was worried about Guam sinking if too many people were weighing it down on one side. Global warming is like the Guam lie. Yoyou y leftists never cease your bs. All of you chumps are drama terds.

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Jun 16, 2018 07:35:08   #
Big Kahuna
 
moldyoldy wrote:
I have to disagree with you. In the past I never worried about the country, I knew it would recover from the policy changes of right and left. Now we have a corrupt egomaniac who seems intent on dismantling the government, destroying relations with allies, aligning with despots, and doing exactly what putin has always wanted, separate all alliances that other countries enjoy.


Go home, that means back to Russia, you communist thug. Go kiss Putins arse like you kissed that black leftist communist's arse, ovommit, for 8 years. He was no doubt the worst of the worst. A weak, lieing. cowardly, perverted, self absorbed little thug with an oversized ego and a plastic man to boot.

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Jun 16, 2018 08:48:37   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
moldyoldy wrote:
I have to disagree with you. In the past I never worried about the country, I knew it would recover from the policy changes of right and left. Now we have a corrupt egomaniac who seems intent on dismantling the government, destroying relations with allies, aligning with despots, and doing exactly what putin has always wanted, separate all alliances that other countries enjoy.


I didn't say we needn't worry about our country, I'm suggesting we'll still be worrying no matter who or what party is running things in the future. We're stuck between two clock weights, one called democrats and one called republicans. We're only now beginning to see the disaster unfolding as a result of experimenting with a fake republican, indeed, a fake American.

It's obvious that Americans are fed up with the perpetual infantile behavior of republican and democratic politicians, the massive undermining of our political process by dark and light money, and the never ending maneuvering for position and power. Those who thought Trump was going to be Americas savior, are beginning to understand that he's worse than all the others combined, courting murderous dictators and spurning allies, constantly seeking advantages ( and bribes ) for his own companies, and draining the treasury into his own pocket. Desperation caused Americans to try and get that fortune from the African prince ( that famous con ), selling their country in the process.

I'm stating emphatically, that neither democrats nor republicans are the answer.........................................................I'm stating that they are part of the problem.

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Jun 16, 2018 09:38:16   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
lpnmajor wrote:
I didn't say we needn't worry about our country, I'm suggesting we'll still be worrying no matter who or what party is running things in the future. We're stuck between two clock weights, one called democrats and one called republicans. We're only now beginning to see the disaster unfolding as a result of experimenting with a fake republican, indeed, a fake American.

It's obvious that Americans are fed up with the perpetual infantile behavior of republican and democratic politicians, the massive undermining of our political process by dark and light money, and the never ending maneuvering for position and power. Those who thought Trump was going to be Americas savior, are beginning to understand that he's worse than all the others combined, courting murderous dictators and spurning allies, constantly seeking advantages ( and bribes ) for his own companies, and draining the treasury into his own pocket. Desperation caused Americans to try and get that fortune from the African prince ( that famous con ), selling their country in the process.

I'm stating emphatically, that neither democrats nor republicans are the answer.........................................................I'm stating that they are part of the problem.
I didn't say we needn't worry about our country, I... (show quote)


Obamanation was the most profound 'human' imposter ever.

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Jun 16, 2018 11:25:33   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
lpnmajor wrote:
It is really depressing watching the constant battle between Republicans and Democrats, liberals vs. conservatives and so on. If that isn't bad enough, there are factions within the above categories, providing more chaos, mayhem and confusion. What are they fighting about anyway?

Everyone should realize that there WILL be a shift in the Congress, since there always is, and all should realize that there will be a new President eventually, providing another shift. Based on current history, the entire agenda of the new regime will be focused on undoing every single thing the last regime did, fought every step of the way by the losing side. Which ever side is in charge when all the judges die off, will be able to stack the courts with their own toadies. Until recently, I was unaware that there were two Constitutions, one for liberals and one for conservatives. Do we get to choose which laws we have to obey?

We here all the time the phrase " the direction the country is heading " and the like, but it's easy to see that the country isn't heading in ANY direction, it's just swinging back and forth, which means - it isn't going anywhere. Ever seen one of those old clocks with the pendulum? No one ever reported their clock malfunctioned, because the pendulum moved to the other side of the room. No, they just swing from one side to the other.

Regardless of what happens in the midterms, or two years later in the next Presidential elections, we're going to be screwed either way. Either Democrats or Republicans will rule the Congress, and we'll either have Trump or a Democrat sitting on the throne................and the same useless, chaotic, damaging crap will continue...................just like it has for the last century. The losers will continue to undermine the winners, just like Republicans did under Obama and Democrats are doing now. The new winners will spend most of their time undoing what the previous winners did.

In short, nobody really wins, at least - not for long. There are some Republicans that will never accept anything accomplished by a Democrat and visa versa, even when it's some damn good stuff, it's the principle and all that crap. What we can count on however, is that we the people will lose....................just like we've always lost....................for over a century. I'm wondering when ( maybe I should say "if" ) the American people are going to get tired of this never ending circus. America did just fine during it's first 50 years or so.......................without a single Democrat or Republican..................so we know it CAN be done..................but only when we want to.
It is really depressing watching the constant batt... (show quote)

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