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Jun 11, 2018 11:33:35   #
Kevyn
 
JFlorio wrote:
Not legally they’re not.
of course they are I can buy a gun from my neighbor in a legal cash transaction with no paperwork. It is illegal for him to sell me beer without a license and if I buy his car I need to register, license and insure it.

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Jun 11, 2018 11:39:23   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
In that respect you're correct. You could also go over and your neighbor could give you a beer legally. No amount of rules Kevy are going to stop shootings, period. I ask you once again, why were there virtually no shootings when I went to high school? This was at a time when every other pick up truck in the school lot had a rifle of some kind in it. You snowflakes blame the gun. It's the culture. Something is wrong with the kids. You're a great example; instead of hoping the President is successful in the NK summit you root for him to fail. Progressives are a disease. Can't wait until they are wiped out.
Kevyn wrote:
of course they are I can buy a gun from my neighbor in a legal cash transaction with no paperwork. It is illegal for him to sell me beer without a license and if I buy his car I need to register, license and insure it.

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Jun 11, 2018 11:40:55   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
By the way there are plenty of gun laws. Most aren't enforced. We don't just wipe them away.
Kevyn wrote:
of course they are I can buy a gun from my neighbor in a legal cash transaction with no paperwork. It is illegal for him to sell me beer without a license and if I buy his car I need to register, license and insure it.

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Jun 11, 2018 12:29:51   #
Endoscopy Loc: Florida
 
Kevyn wrote:
Since laws against drugs aren’t successful should we just legalize all drugs and do away with prescriptions and just let people buy whatever drug they want?

Look how well prohibition worked. If people want it they will get it. My 17 year old daughter buys marijuana because she was in 2 car accidents and the result was surgery and pain in the back. She was given narcotics to take away the pain but nothing helped except marijuana. I fervently hope she doesn't get arrested.

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Jun 11, 2018 12:33:46   #
Endoscopy Loc: Florida
 
JFlorio wrote:
By the way there are plenty of gun laws. Most aren't enforced. We don't just wipe them away.

I live in Florida too. Just try that in NY. The problem NY faces is they are being sued for non compliance with the Constitution. It will end up in SCOTUS.

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Jun 11, 2018 13:17:09   #
thinksense
 
Kevyn wrote:
Since laws against drugs aren’t successful should we just legalize all drugs and do away with prescriptions and just let people buy whatever drug they want?


The idea of legalizing all drugs would be a great step forward.

Yes there would be some fools who would abuse them. But we already have that.

But if drugs were legal we would have less societal harm. Look what happened when the Govt. made alcohol illegal. That quickly was followed with increased criminal behavior. Vicious gangs developed, and not only circumvented the laws, but started a period of brutal criminality, which gradually was growing worse, even to the point of destroying our country.

Then the Prohibition laws were repealed and the gangsterism started to reduce and the country got back to moving forward. Alcohol is not a good drug, but it really seldom causes trouble for anyone but the abuser, and his/her family who can help him/her. As long as the drugs are illegal you make things worse for the family by adding the legal problems and expenses.

Drug use for any reason, except medical emergencies, is stupid and dangerous. But the only one who is really injured is the abuser. Yes, I know that the abuser’s family is also affected to a degree, but less so if the drug were legalized than takes place with the extra problems brought on by criminalizing drugs.

Educate children at home and in school to the dangers of drugs and when the kids “experiment” you’ll find that all but a few deranged ones will quickly turn away from them as they mature.

Yes, we will still have some abusers, but there will be a lot fewer, and the abusers will in effect take themselves out of the society, as they are doing now anyway.

Drug Gangs would disappear, because the profit would be gone. Most of the cost of illegal drugs is caused by the fact that they are illegal. Illegality creates a shortage of drugs the addict wants, creates a criminal risk for both the supplier and user, and raises the prices to the point that addicts, already looked upon as criminals will engage in criminal activities to get the money to buy the drugs.

Drugs are very cheap to make, and if they were legal to obtain would not create the criminal who robs or steals to accommodate the costs of a strong “habit”.

And we would get rid of a large number of “drug war” police and the corruption and societal stress that they create.

To me all these effects of legalizing drugs should be considered a good thing and a big win for all of us.

Think about it.

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Jun 11, 2018 13:18:29   #
Kevyn
 
JFlorio wrote:
In that respect you're correct. You could also go over and your neighbor could give you a beer legally. No amount of rules Kevy are going to stop shootings, period. I ask you once again, why were there virtually no shootings when I went to high school? This was at a time when every other pick up truck in the school lot had a rifle of some kind in it. You snowflakes blame the gun. It's the culture. Something is wrong with the kids. You're a great example; instead of hoping the President is successful in the NK summit you root for him to fail. Progressives are a disease. Can't wait until they are wiped out.
In that respect you're correct. You could also go ... (show quote)

In no way am I rooting for him to fail, I have no faith he will pull off the removal of nuclear weapons and delivery systems from North Korea verified by international inspections. How can anyone think he will accomplish anything more than elevating Kim’s stature with a photo opp when he is too stupid to maintain decent relations with the G7?

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Jun 11, 2018 14:08:54   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Your idea of decent relations is America kissing ass. Americans first. When's the last time those so called allies had our back? You know why they've liked the U. S.? We were the worlds piggy bank. That's the damn truth. We have the worlds largest economy so it's only fair they take advantage , right?
Kevyn wrote:
In no way am I rooting for him to fail, I have no faith he will pull off the removal of nuclear weapons and delivery systems from North Korea verified by international inspections. How can anyone think he will accomplish anything more than elevating Kim’s stature with a photo opp when he is too stupid to maintain decent relations with the G7?

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Jun 11, 2018 14:47:20   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
JFlorio wrote:
Your idea of decent relations is America kissing ass. Americans first. When's the last time those so called allies had our back? You know why they've liked the U. S.? We were the worlds piggy bank. That's the damn truth. We have the worlds largest economy so it's only fair they take advantage , right?




J,

Come on now... the last time they had our back??

Most of them gave us a hand despite the intense opinion that Bush/Chaney were wrong to strike Iraq..

They also joined in President Obama fight against terrorism..

It leaves little doubt in most people minds that the tariffs and restrictions will be costly for the American consumer..

Also, much of the ownership of those corps bringing goods to our country are American corporations..

Although they may no longer have any national loyalty..

This is for those who feel booze does no harm.. LOL
This is for those who feel booze does no harm..  L...

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Jun 11, 2018 15:33:31   #
thinksense
 
permafrost wrote:
J,

Come on now... the last time they had our back??

Most of them gave us a hand despite the intense opinion that Bush/Chaney were wrong to strike Iraq..

They also joined in President Obama fight against terrorism..

It leaves little doubt in most people minds that the tariffs and restrictions will be costly for the American consumer..

Also, much of the ownership of those corps bringing goods to our country are American corporations..

Although they may no longer have any national loyalty..
J, br br Come on now... the last time they had ou... (show quote)


Let's get back to what this string was about when it started.....OK?

Btw, that swab jockey story from Oceanside was one not of harm but comedy. That I can appreciate. Thanks for throwing it in.

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Jun 11, 2018 15:53:39   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
BS. We do almost all the fighting. Obama's fight against terrorism? Oxymoron. He's the idiot that changed the rules in Afghanistan leading to more American deaths. Tariffs will be more costly I have no doubt. So how would you even the playing field? Answer: You wouldn't.
permafrost wrote:
J,

Come on now... the last time they had our back??

Most of them gave us a hand despite the intense opinion that Bush/Chaney were wrong to strike Iraq..

They also joined in President Obama fight against terrorism..

It leaves little doubt in most people minds that the tariffs and restrictions will be costly for the American consumer..

Also, much of the ownership of those corps bringing goods to our country are American corporations..

Although they may no longer have any national loyalty..
J, br br Come on now... the last time they had ou... (show quote)

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Jun 11, 2018 16:45:49   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
JFlorio wrote:
BS. We do almost all the fighting. Obama's fight against terrorism? Oxymoron. He's the idiot that changed the rules in Afghanistan leading to more American deaths. Tariffs will be more costly I have no doubt. So how would you even the playing field? Answer: You wouldn't.




When President Obama put tariffs on steel to put the Minnesota miners, and I am sure others, back to work, he was very specific about what and who the tariffs applied to.

He was quite successful in that the miners got back to work and I did not hear of any shortage of material or rising prices by Mfg..

With that in mind, if tariffs are used, they must be carefully targeted and done with great care..

Not on a whim and a scatter gun effort..



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Jun 11, 2018 16:47:08   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
thinksense wrote:
Let's get back to what this string was about when it started.....OK?

Btw, that swab jockey story from Oceanside was one not of harm but comedy. That I can appreciate. Thanks for throwing it in.




Good idea... I need some humor to stop a temper tantrum..

Never feel good after i do that..

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Jun 11, 2018 17:09:41   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Kevyn wrote:
of course they are I can buy a gun from my neighbor in a legal cash transaction with no paperwork. It is illegal for him to sell me beer without a license and if I buy his car I need to register, license and insure it.


If you live in California, you cannot sell or buy a gun in a private deal..all gun sales have to go through a licensed dealer..

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Jun 11, 2018 17:39:42   #
badbob85037
 
Kevyn wrote:
Since laws against drugs aren’t successful should we just legalize all drugs and do away with prescriptions and just let people buy whatever drug they want?


Now that is just your wishful thinking. But serious, don't you think you had your share and then some?

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