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Jun 10, 2018 19:18:00   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
emarine wrote:
You fail to realize just why most manufacturing jobs went offshore in the first place... Why pay a trained employee a living wage in America when for the same money you could employ 6 or 8 not to mention no benefits … American wages have been stagnant for 20 years...

The fact that the US has the highest corporate tax rate in the world might have something to do with it also.

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Jun 10, 2018 19:32:19   #
emarine
 
Loki wrote:
The fact that the US has the highest corporate tax rate in the world might have something to do with it also.




That would be a factor if they actually paid it... most don't.. corporate welfare is as big of a scam as people welfare...

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Jun 10, 2018 19:39:18   #
teabag09
 
Rumi, my wife was welfare/food stamp Supervisor in Norfolk, Va. for 32 years. Before Obama was elected there was a requirement to be looking for work, like for unemployment, to receive food stamps and a two year cap. Of course there were exception as there are people who sincerely need help.

Most days there were between 50 and 100 people waiting to apply. Within a month of Obama being elected the lines of NEW applicants stretched around the entire building which was at one time a huge big box store. This went on for months as all work requirements, time periods, etc. were lifted. Most all of these CUSTOMERs as they were required to be called were able bodied people looking for their Obama phone and other freebies. So Rumi, I believe your numbers are a little skewed, nice try though. Mike
rumitoid wrote:
I know there are people getting assistance that are milking the system, not unlike Scott Pruitt or Zinke or Mnuchin or many other Swamp Things. The financial crisis of 2008 turned a lot of hard-working and decent people lives upside down. Do not think the profound effect of that is over for many Americans. Welfare Queens are there, at about 2% on the rolls. They are not representative of welfare recipients. Children, the elderly, and disabled are. Let me hear one Republican cite them as a need for cutting back welfare.
I know there are people getting assistance that ar... (show quote)

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Jun 10, 2018 20:26:52   #
Big Kahuna
 
Bad Bob wrote:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/1b2a235d-fcfb-3435-b465-2139dd3853ef/1-in-10-workers-at-this-big.html


You have to go where the jobs are. If Amazon in Ohio is not getting the job done, then get a better job, move, get more education or move in with your parents like the college grads did in the ovommit years because there were zero jobs available in his dismal non growing economy for 8 years.

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Jun 10, 2018 20:37:56   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
drlarrygino wrote:
You have to go where the jobs are. If Amazon in Ohio is not getting the job done, then get a better job, move, get more education or move in with your parents like the college grads did in the ovommit years because there were zero jobs available in his dismal non growing economy for 8 years.



"dismal non growing economy for 8 years."


You must have been living in a cave for 8 years.

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Jun 10, 2018 20:39:27   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
drlarrygino wrote:
You have to go where the jobs are. If Amazon in Ohio is not getting the job done, then get a better job, move, get more education or move in with your parents like the college grads did in the ovommit years because there were zero jobs available in his dismal non growing economy for 8 years.


Now there is more jobs then people looking for it...No excuse anymore of not able to work....

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Jun 10, 2018 22:23:08   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Bad Bob wrote:
"dismal non growing economy for 8 years."


You must have been living in a cave for 8 years.


Part time jobs grew by leaps and bounds. In 2013 they were 77% of the new jobs created.

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Jun 10, 2018 22:40:49   #
rumitoid
 
Chocura750 wrote:
Last time I checked, well before Trump's election, I believe a person needed a job to receive SNAP benefits. Republicans get upset about SNAP benefits, but don't say much about the Earned Income Tax Credit which is essentially a means of keeping businesses from needing to raise wages.


Good point.

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Jun 10, 2018 22:45:53   #
rumitoid
 
drlarrygino wrote:
I see signs up for employment all over the place now. McDonald's, Burger King, restaurants, construction jobs. There is no excuse for anyone not to be working instead of sitting at home and being indoctrinated in marxism by whoop ass goldberg and joyless behar. I'm sure if anyone called up Le Bonehead James, Steve Curry, or Johnny boy Legend, and told them you hated Trump they would put you on their payroll. Then again these social justice warriors may tell you to continue to sit at home and keep being indoctrinated like all good dems should be.
I see signs up for employment all over the place n... (show quote)


I have never been out of work unless I wanted to be. drlarrygino, I relate. I do not get it either. That they are home in order to get indoctrinated by The View on Marxism, is a stretch. But I always found work when I wanted, and in a day. Hard for me to get my head around being out of work for more than perhaps two weeks.

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Jun 10, 2018 23:08:39   #
rumitoid
 
Loki wrote:
How about the millions of wetbacks who use fraudulent ID and documents to obtain benefits meant for US citizens? How about the wetbacks who sneak across the border with an already pregnant wife, girlfriend or rent-a-puta to have an "anchor baby" on US soil, (a practice which flies in the face of two SCOTUS decisions?)
I had to get food stamps myself for a short time while recovering from a couple of major surgeries. I was surprised when I went to the office and found over half the applicants couldn't speak English.
Anchor babies are a legal fiction. In two cases the SCOTUS has ruled that children of illegals are NOT birth citizens of the US except in very narrow circumstances. It is a symptom of our broken immigration system that illegals and people here on fraudulent asylum claims can obtain benefits meant for US citizens and lawful residents of this country. If our resources were infinite, it might be different. As it is, they are not, and unscrupulous wetbacks game the system to steal benefits for which they have no eligibility.

https://cis.org/Report/Illegal-Not-Undocumented
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I agree. But it does not bother me. I have to pay with my taxes? Fine! The history of my Irish roots in Ireland and journey here I have aired too often. So what! The Brits were willing to let us starve to death, and more than a million did--closer to 2 million did. Do you have children? What would you do to keep them safe and alive?

Trying to understand the crushing brutality of poverty and how devastating that is for parents to see their children suffer, I say help them. Whatever it takes. Anything less, to me, is inhumane. Yet your point is still valid; it is not up to me to make a decision for you. Financial concerns are legitimate. Yet your prejudice is showing. "Wetbacks." "Rent-a-puta." You have hardened your heart. These are no longer people to you in dire and desperate need for freedom and survival but just a species of bottom-feeders. Maybe you are right. But I prefer to be a sucker as to their plight.

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Jun 10, 2018 23:17:47   #
rumitoid
 
mwdegutis wrote:
You love to quote scripture. How about this one that I'm sure applies for the parent of those 17.6 million children who are THEIR responsibility (notice I didn't say parents):

For even when we were with you, we used to give you this order: if anyone is not willing to work, then he is not to eat, either. 2 Thessalonians 3:10


I agree. But are they unwilling? Here is an unfortunate scenario. A single mother can get a part time job, what is standard now by blood-sucking fast food chains draining the nation's treasury to supplement their profits, and with all the additional costs (such as baby-sitters, day care, travel expenses, etc) will make less than a sustainable income or her welfare coverage. What would you do with kids dependent on you?

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Jun 10, 2018 23:20:42   #
rumitoid
 
johnsorrell7 wrote:
You are quoting 33% of these recipients are people that are non-disabled and probably able to take care of themselves. A very large percentage of the children that are in need of SNAP, are children that are of parents that could support them but refuse to work. Why should they work when the American taxpayer hands them a living every month?? I live in deep South
Texas, and see it every day. I went to high school with most of them. I know them and they will not work, but enjoy having those children. Each child means they will receive more SNAP!!!! We need to change the rules and police the rules we have...
You are quoting 33% of these recipients are people... (show quote)


How do read "refuse to work"?

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Jun 10, 2018 23:22:12   #
rumitoid
 
ldsuttonjr wrote:
rumi: Who is pumping this bullshit up your ass?


I know. I hate it! But Truth won't let me alone. What's a guy to do?

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Jun 10, 2018 23:24:04   #
rumitoid
 
bahmer wrote:
Who cares


Exactly. Not Republicans. They get theirs. Screw starving children.

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Jun 10, 2018 23:40:22   #
rumitoid
 
Loki wrote:
Minimum wage is entry level. That's what you pay someone while they learn to do something worth paying for.


If Republicans had kept in place mandatory overtime payments for employees working more than a forty hour week, the absolutely biggest boost to our economy, minimum wage would be now around $21.00. Letting that provision lapse put Corporations on the "demand" side of the equation. Since then, all the middle class gains garnered by unions--job safety and security, pensions, health insurance, full time job, overtime, forty hour week, and so forth--have steadily been stripped away. We are almost back to the labor abusive Turn Of The Century Robber Barons.

Some interesting facts:
-More than half (52 percent) of the families of front-line fast-food workers are enrolled in one or more public programs, compared to 25 percent of the workforce as a whole.

-The cost of public assistance to families of workers in the fast-food industry is nearly $7 billion per year.

-At an average of $3.9 billion per year, spending on Medicaid and the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP) accounts for more than half of these costs.

-Due to low earnings, fast-food workers’ families also receive an annual average of $1.04 billion in food stamp benefits and $1.91 billion in Earned Income Tax Credit payments.

-People working in fast-food jobs are more likely to live in or near poverty. One in five families with a member holding a fast-food job has an income below the poverty line, and 43 percent have an income two times the federal poverty level or less.

-Even full-time hours are not enough to compensate for low wages. The families of more than half of the fast-food workers employed 40 or more hours per week are enrolled in public assistance programs.

Why this enormous insanity? GOP resistance to Labor.

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