working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

Your mind deceives you if 'It appears that they are only willing to work within a system that they are in control of to shape as they will.' Liberals are no more engaged in overthrowing the system than conservatives, nor in shaping it to their will. That's why we vote....to shape the system. Otherwise, what's the point of self governance?

bahmer

If you believe that line of BS it is you who are deceived and no one else.

working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

Yeah, I know....I'm rubber you're glue....

Ricktloml

Of course the Democrats want to work within the system they corrupted. Everyone else doesn't want the first political coup in U.S, history.

debeda

Yeah. Except the libs have 2 year and counting tantrums about election results they don't like....

debeda

So....what you are telling me is the of democratic voters shape policy for when the dems are in charge? So the majority of dem voters support unrestrained, open border immigration from the southern border, importing and supporting Muslim "refugees" who think westerners are infidels and should be killed, hamstringing law enforcement, LGBQT rights over those of others, a "genderless" society, trade and domestic regulations that decimated manufacturing in this country, runaway inflation to raise tax dollars without raising taxes, actually raising taxes, a burgeoning welfare population, "abortion" until the moment of birth, planned parenthood (who sells spare human parts for profit) being supported by tax payers, just to name a few. The democrats have a consensus on this? I mean the individual voters? If so, no wonder the democrats and republicans can't have any meaningful dialogue!!

Ricktloml

And when Republicans are in charge, (as in voted in by the majority of Americans,) they have NO RIGHT to expect to shape policy. What is going on right now is the Democrats and their collaborators in the media refuse to accept the results of the election and are trying to criminalize winning, and policy changes because they don't like the fact that they lost.

working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

Yeah....we still have 6 more yrs to hit the whining quota conservatives established. With luck, we'll only use up two of them.

working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

No that's not what I'm telling you. That's the kool aid you drink affecting your thinking. And you demonstrate very well why no meaningful dialogue is possible.

working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

Poor poor Republicans. Control of all branches of the federal gov't and still you whine.

debeda

Right!!! But the person I was responding to can't understand that the proglibs have NO respect for anything they're not in control of. Constitutional ? Pffft they say. Current law? Pffft just ignore it, well create a narrative to change it later.

debeda

If what's going on is what proglibs consider "whining" I'd hate to see shrieking and howling and growling and ranting and melting down. I guess conservatives are more like Canadians. We tend to use our words rather than a 2 year old tantrum...

debeda

Uh huh. Dare not call out the proglibs on their stuff or you're not right in the head. Okee dokee then....

working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

Sauce for the goose....

Endoscopy Loc: Florida

You ignore the history of the Republicans coming to power. Obama was elected president and had a Democrat congress. He made the statement that he wanted to fundamentally change America. The Democrats agreed. They created Obama Care that when used fundamentally changed the relationship between the doctor and patient and also reduced the pay to doctors to less than the cost to see the patient. Progressives never bother to understand the overhead a doctors office has. When you go into a doctors office look around and see the building, equipment, office equipment and personnel. There is utilities and maintenance on the equipment and facility. All of the money to pay for that comes from the patient and their insurance. Medicaid is even worse. I have over the years had friends who were doctors. They told me the how many patients a day they have to see to break even. That is the reason for 15 minute appointments. At least 24 patients a day.

Dodd Frank gives the government the power to seize accounts in banks and other financial institutions where people keep their money. This can happen when the government deems it necessary.

They screwed around with your medical help and access to your money.

Then the progressive Democrats can't figure out why the voters elected Republicans who want to get rid of those laws.