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Jun 8, 2018 13:39:10   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Squiddiddler wrote:
A bit long but an eye opener!

Civil War – A few thoughts . . .

A few days ago Jack Minzey sent what was to be the final chapter in the long line of books and treatises which he had written. Jack passed away Sunday, April 8, 2018. Professionally, Jack was head of the Department of Education at Eastern Michigan University as well as a prolific author of numerous books, most of which were on the topic of Education and the Government role therein. This is the last of his works:

Civil War: How do civil wars happen?

Two or more sides disagree on who runs the country. And they can't settle the question through elections because they don't even agree that elections are how you decide who's in charge. That's the basic issue here. Who decides who runs the country? When you hate each other but accept the election results, you have a country. When you stop accepting election results, you have a countdown to a civil war.

The Mueller investigation is about removing President Trump from office and overturning the results of an election. We all know that. But it's not the first time they've done this. The first time a Republican president was elected this century, they said he didn't really win. The Supreme Court gave him the election. There's a pattern here.

What do sure odds of the Democrats rejecting the next Republican president really mean? It means they don't accept the results of any election that they don't win. It means they don't believe that transfers of power in this country are determined by elections

That's a civil war.

There's no shooting. At least not unless you count the attempt to kill a bunch of Republicans at a charity baseball game practice. But the Democrats have rejected our system of government.

This isn't dissent. It's not disagreement. You can hate the other party. You can think they're the worst thing that ever happened to the country. But then you work harder to win the next election. When you consistently reject the results of elections that you don't win, what you want is a dictatorship

Your very own dictatorship!

The only legitimate exercise of power in this country, according to Democrats, is its own. Whenever Republicans exercise power, it's inherently illegitimate. The Democrats lost Congress. They lost the White House. So what did they do? They began trying to run the country through Federal judges and bureaucrats. Every time that a Federal judge issues an order saying that the President of the United States can't scratch his own back without his say so, that's the civil war.

Our system of government is based on the constitution, but that's not the system that runs this country. The Democrat's system is that any part of government that it runs gets total and unlimited power over the country

If the Democrats are in the White House, then the president can do anything. And I mean anything. He can have his own amnesty for illegal aliens. He can fine you for not having health insurance. His power is unlimited. He's a dictator.

But when Republicans get into the White House, suddenly the President can't do anything. He isn't even allowed to undo the illegal alien amnesty that his predecessor illegally invented. A Democrat in the White House has 'discretion' to completely decide every aspect of immigration policy. A Republican doesn't even have the 'discretion' to reverse him. That's how the game is played That's how our country is run. Sad but true, although the left hasn't yet won that particular fight.

When a Democrat is in the White House, states aren't even allowed to enforce immigration law. But when a Republican is in the White House, states can create their own immigration laws. Under Obama, a state wasn't allowed to go to the bathroom without asking permission. But under Trump, Jerry Brown can go around saying that California is an independent republic and sign treaties with other countries.

The Constitution has something to say about that.

Whether it's Federal or State, Executive, Legislative or Judiciary, the left moves power around to run the country. If it controls an institution, then that institution is suddenly the supreme power in the land. This is what I call a moving dictatorship.

Donald Trump has caused the Shadow Government to come out of hiding: Professional government is a guild. Like medieval guilds. You can't serve in if you're not a member. If you haven't been indoctrinated into its arcane rituals. If you aren't in the club. And Trump isn't in the club. He brought in a bunch of people who aren't in the club with him.

Now we're seeing what the pros do when amateurs try to walk in on them. They spy on them, they investigate them and they send them to jail. They use the tools of power to bring them down.

That's not a free country.

It's not a free country when FBI agents who support Hillary take out an 'insurance policy' against Trump winning the election. It's not a free country when Obama officials engage in massive unmasking of the opposition. It's not a free country when the media responds to the other guy winning by trying to ban the conservative media that supported him from social media. It's not a free country when all of the above collude together to overturn an election because the guy who wasn't supposed to win did.

Have no doubt, we're in a civil war between conservative volunteer government and a leftist Democrat Professional Progressive Left Wing Government.
A bit long but an eye opener! br br Civil War – ... (show quote)



This is not by Jack Minzey...

Now you should ask yourself, why would someone, if they had any credence or truth, try to say what they wrote was done by someone else??

That all makes it clear that this article is not worth any attention at all..


https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/did-jack-minzey-modern-civil-war/


CLAIM
A military veteran and educator wrote an opinion piece arguing that the United States is in a modern Civil War.

RATING
MISATTRIBUTED
ORIGIN
In May 2018, an opinion piece arguing that the United States was in the midst of a modern Civil War went viral when it was shared as if it were written by Jack Minzey, a veteran and educator from Eastern Michigan University, who had passed away a few weeks previously.


It is unclear how Minzey’s name was originally attached to this text. In similar instances, relatively unknown authors’ names are replaced by those of celebrities or well-established political pundits in order to give an opinion piece more credence, or to increase the chances that it will get shared. In this case, it seems like there was renewed interest in Minzey’s life and work following his passing, and someone took advantage of his death to bring attention to an unrelated piece.

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Jun 8, 2018 13:57:17   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
youngwilliam wrote:
Its the vodka, giving him Russians on the brain.


Well if that's it, he'd better not be cremated when it's all over..they wouldn't be able to extinguish the fire..
.

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Jun 8, 2018 16:17:58   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
permafrost wrote:
This is not by Jack Minzey...

Now you should ask yourself, why would someone, if they had any credence or truth, try to say what they wrote was done by someone else??

That all makes it clear that this article is not worth any attention at all..


https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/did-jack-minzey-modern-civil-war/


CLAIM
A military veteran and educator wrote an opinion piece arguing that the United States is in a modern Civil War.

RATING
MISATTRIBUTED
ORIGIN
In May 2018, an opinion piece arguing that the United States was in the midst of a modern Civil War went viral when it was shared as if it were written by Jack Minzey, a veteran and educator from Eastern Michigan University, who had passed away a few weeks previously.


It is unclear how Minzey’s name was originally attached to this text. In similar instances, relatively unknown authors’ names are replaced by those of celebrities or well-established political pundits in order to give an opinion piece more credence, or to increase the chances that it will get shared. In this case, it seems like there was renewed interest in Minzey’s life and work following his passing, and someone took advantage of his death to bring attention to an unrelated piece.
This is not by Jack Minzey... br br Now you shoul... (show quote)


permi: Are you really going to believe a political hoppy site like snopes doggie?

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Jun 8, 2018 16:47:05   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
ldsuttonjr wrote:
permi: Are you really going to believe a political hoppy site like snopes doggie?



You can find the same information on any number of sites..

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Jun 8, 2018 17:23:20   #
Big Kahuna
 
ldsuttonjr wrote:
permi: Are you really going to believe a political hoppy site like snopes doggie?


He is deranged and needs a good mental cleansing. He needs chelation therapy to rid him of that agent orange. Then he might think clearly.

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Jun 8, 2018 21:59:14   #
maryla
 
Time for BHO to go to jail!
Squiddiddler wrote:
A bit long but an eye opener!

Civil War – A few thoughts . . .

A few days ago Jack Minzey sent what was to be the final chapter in the long line of books and treatises which he had written. Jack passed away Sunday, April 8, 2018. Professionally, Jack was head of the Department of Education at Eastern Michigan University as well as a prolific author of numerous books, most of which were on the topic of Education and the Government role therein. This is the last of his works:

Civil War: How do civil wars happen?

Two or more sides disagree on who runs the country. And they can't settle the question through elections because they don't even agree that elections are how you decide who's in charge. That's the basic issue here. Who decides who runs the country? When you hate each other but accept the election results, you have a country. When you stop accepting election results, you have a countdown to a civil war.

The Mueller investigation is about removing President Trump from office and overturning the results of an election. We all know that. But it's not the first time they've done this. The first time a Republican president was elected this century, they said he didn't really win. The Supreme Court gave him the election. There's a pattern here.

What do sure odds of the Democrats rejecting the next Republican president really mean? It means they don't accept the results of any election that they don't win. It means they don't believe that transfers of power in this country are determined by elections

That's a civil war.

There's no shooting. At least not unless you count the attempt to kill a bunch of Republicans at a charity baseball game practice. But the Democrats have rejected our system of government.

This isn't dissent. It's not disagreement. You can hate the other party. You can think they're the worst thing that ever happened to the country. But then you work harder to win the next election. When you consistently reject the results of elections that you don't win, what you want is a dictatorship

Your very own dictatorship!

The only legitimate exercise of power in this country, according to Democrats, is its own. Whenever Republicans exercise power, it's inherently illegitimate. The Democrats lost Congress. They lost the White House. So what did they do? They began trying to run the country through Federal judges and bureaucrats. Every time that a Federal judge issues an order saying that the President of the United States can't scratch his own back without his say so, that's the civil war.

Our system of government is based on the constitution, but that's not the system that runs this country. The Democrat's system is that any part of government that it runs gets total and unlimited power over the country

If the Democrats are in the White House, then the president can do anything. And I mean anything. He can have his own amnesty for illegal aliens. He can fine you for not having health insurance. His power is unlimited. He's a dictator.

But when Republicans get into the White House, suddenly the President can't do anything. He isn't even allowed to undo the illegal alien amnesty that his predecessor illegally invented. A Democrat in the White House has 'discretion' to completely decide every aspect of immigration policy. A Republican doesn't even have the 'discretion' to reverse him. That's how the game is played That's how our country is run. Sad but true, although the left hasn't yet won that particular fight.

When a Democrat is in the White House, states aren't even allowed to enforce immigration law. But when a Republican is in the White House, states can create their own immigration laws. Under Obama, a state wasn't allowed to go to the bathroom without asking permission. But under Trump, Jerry Brown can go around saying that California is an independent republic and sign treaties with other countries.

The Constitution has something to say about that.

Whether it's Federal or State, Executive, Legislative or Judiciary, the left moves power around to run the country. If it controls an institution, then that institution is suddenly the supreme power in the land. This is what I call a moving dictatorship.

Donald Trump has caused the Shadow Government to come out of hiding: Professional government is a guild. Like medieval guilds. You can't serve in if you're not a member. If you haven't been indoctrinated into its arcane rituals. If you aren't in the club. And Trump isn't in the club. He brought in a bunch of people who aren't in the club with him.

Now we're seeing what the pros do when amateurs try to walk in on them. They spy on them, they investigate them and they send them to jail. They use the tools of power to bring them down.

That's not a free country.

It's not a free country when FBI agents who support Hillary take out an 'insurance policy' against Trump winning the election. It's not a free country when Obama officials engage in massive unmasking of the opposition. It's not a free country when the media responds to the other guy winning by trying to ban the conservative media that supported him from social media. It's not a free country when all of the above collude together to overturn an election because the guy who wasn't supposed to win did.

Have no doubt, we're in a civil war between conservative volunteer government and a leftist Democrat Professional Progressive Left Wing Government.
A bit long but an eye opener! br br Civil War – ... (show quote)

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Jun 8, 2018 23:00:16   #
Mike Easterday
 
Demoncrats should be micromanaged for treason!

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Jun 8, 2018 23:12:50   #
Endoscopy Loc: Florida
 
bahmer wrote:
But all of the liberals are all afraid of those big bad scary guns so they don't own any.

They need to put a sign in front of their house proclaiming it to be a gun free zone.
98.4% of all mass killing occur in gun free zones.

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Jun 9, 2018 00:03:19   #
Mike Easterday
 
Endoscopy wrote:
They need to put a sign in front of their house proclaiming it to be a gun free zone.
98.4% of all mass killing occur in gun free zones.


I agree!

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Jun 9, 2018 00:28:09   #
debeda
 
Squiddiddler wrote:
A bit long but an eye opener!

Civil War – A few thoughts . . .

A few days ago Jack Minzey sent what was to be the final chapter in the long line of books and treatises which he had written. Jack passed away Sunday, April 8, 2018. Professionally, Jack was head of the Department of Education at Eastern Michigan University as well as a prolific author of numerous books, most of which were on the topic of Education and the Government role therein. This is the last of his works:

Civil War: How do civil wars happen?

Two or more sides disagree on who runs the country. And they can't settle the question through elections because they don't even agree that elections are how you decide who's in charge. That's the basic issue here. Who decides who runs the country? When you hate each other but accept the election results, you have a country. When you stop accepting election results, you have a countdown to a civil war.

The Mueller investigation is about removing President Trump from office and overturning the results of an election. We all know that. But it's not the first time they've done this. The first time a Republican president was elected this century, they said he didn't really win. The Supreme Court gave him the election. There's a pattern here.

What do sure odds of the Democrats rejecting the next Republican president really mean? It means they don't accept the results of any election that they don't win. It means they don't believe that transfers of power in this country are determined by elections

That's a civil war.

There's no shooting. At least not unless you count the attempt to kill a bunch of Republicans at a charity baseball game practice. But the Democrats have rejected our system of government.

This isn't dissent. It's not disagreement. You can hate the other party. You can think they're the worst thing that ever happened to the country. But then you work harder to win the next election. When you consistently reject the results of elections that you don't win, what you want is a dictatorship

Your very own dictatorship!

The only legitimate exercise of power in this country, according to Democrats, is its own. Whenever Republicans exercise power, it's inherently illegitimate. The Democrats lost Congress. They lost the White House. So what did they do? They began trying to run the country through Federal judges and bureaucrats. Every time that a Federal judge issues an order saying that the President of the United States can't scratch his own back without his say so, that's the civil war.

Our system of government is based on the constitution, but that's not the system that runs this country. The Democrat's system is that any part of government that it runs gets total and unlimited power over the country

If the Democrats are in the White House, then the president can do anything. And I mean anything. He can have his own amnesty for illegal aliens. He can fine you for not having health insurance. His power is unlimited. He's a dictator.

But when Republicans get into the White House, suddenly the President can't do anything. He isn't even allowed to undo the illegal alien amnesty that his predecessor illegally invented. A Democrat in the White House has 'discretion' to completely decide every aspect of immigration policy. A Republican doesn't even have the 'discretion' to reverse him. That's how the game is played That's how our country is run. Sad but true, although the left hasn't yet won that particular fight.

When a Democrat is in the White House, states aren't even allowed to enforce immigration law. But when a Republican is in the White House, states can create their own immigration laws. Under Obama, a state wasn't allowed to go to the bathroom without asking permission. But under Trump, Jerry Brown can go around saying that California is an independent republic and sign treaties with other countries.

The Constitution has something to say about that.

Whether it's Federal or State, Executive, Legislative or Judiciary, the left moves power around to run the country. If it controls an institution, then that institution is suddenly the supreme power in the land. This is what I call a moving dictatorship.

Donald Trump has caused the Shadow Government to come out of hiding: Professional government is a guild. Like medieval guilds. You can't serve in if you're not a member. If you haven't been indoctrinated into its arcane rituals. If you aren't in the club. And Trump isn't in the club. He brought in a bunch of people who aren't in the club with him.

Now we're seeing what the pros do when amateurs try to walk in on them. They spy on them, they investigate them and they send them to jail. They use the tools of power to bring them down.

That's not a free country.

It's not a free country when FBI agents who support Hillary take out an 'insurance policy' against Trump winning the election. It's not a free country when Obama officials engage in massive unmasking of the opposition. It's not a free country when the media responds to the other guy winning by trying to ban the conservative media that supported him from social media. It's not a free country when all of the above collude together to overturn an election because the guy who wasn't supposed to win did.

Have no doubt, we're in a civil war between conservative volunteer government and a leftist Democrat Professional Progressive Left Wing Government.
A bit long but an eye opener! br br Civil War – ... (show quote)


Excellent piece!!

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Jun 9, 2018 00:29:41   #
debeda
 
rumitoid wrote:
This statement alone disqualifies Minzey from serious consideration: "The Mueller investigation is about removing President Trump from office and overturning the results of an election. We all know that." The only people who know that are alt-Right fanatics. What reasonable people know is that it is a proven fact our 2016 elections were hacked by the Russians. The Mueller investigation was launched to find the extent of its reach. The purpose was not "removing President Trump from office and overturning the results of an election." That may well happen, yet that was not why we got a special prosecutor.
This statement alone disqualifies Minzey from seri... (show quote)


I guess everyone who's not a proglib is an "alt-right fanatic" to you, eh?

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Jun 9, 2018 00:30:55   #
debeda
 
old marine wrote:
Grandpa always said don't believe anything you hear and only about half of what you see.


Grandpa was a wise one, marine!!

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Jun 9, 2018 00:32:47   #
debeda
 
badbob85037 wrote:
How does anyone read this and not put two and two together. This guy called it right on every level. The rapist Bill Clinton knows. His wife, the evil treasonous witch of the North, East, South, West and every direction those four don't cover, she knows. Moon Beam Brown knows. Even ones with IQ's matching their shoe sizes knows. So I think it's time for all good Leftest, Progressives, Liberals, Socialist, Communist, and Democrat patriots out there to man up. Take up arms on America, show you are strong in your convictions to what ever it is you are convicted too. You have had it with taking one bitch slapping after another over your criminal, treasonous tyrants you blindly follow. It's time to stop snitching and start shooting. The DNC wants blood and you're going to give it to them.
How does anyone read this and not put two and two ... (show quote)


Why they're trying that with Antifa. Ya know the anti first amendment group...

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Jun 9, 2018 04:36:37   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
permafrost wrote:
This is not by Jack Minzey...

Now you should ask yourself, why would someone, if they had any credence or truth, try to say what they wrote was done by someone else??

That all makes it clear that this article is not worth any attention at all..


https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/did-jack-minzey-modern-civil-war/


CLAIM
A military veteran and educator wrote an opinion piece arguing that the United States is in a modern Civil War.

RATING
MISATTRIBUTED
ORIGIN
In May 2018, an opinion piece arguing that the United States was in the midst of a modern Civil War went viral when it was shared as if it were written by Jack Minzey, a veteran and educator from Eastern Michigan University, who had passed away a few weeks previously.


It is unclear how Minzey’s name was originally attached to this text. In similar instances, relatively unknown authors’ names are replaced by those of celebrities or well-established political pundits in order to give an opinion piece more credence, or to increase the chances that it will get shared. In this case, it seems like there was renewed interest in Minzey’s life and work following his passing, and someone took advantage of his death to bring attention to an unrelated piece.
This is not by Jack Minzey... br br Now you shoul... (show quote)

Just like the socialist Demon-Rats swamp dwelling traitors claim the economy, wall street stock market, companies returning to America, lowest unemployment since World War two, is the results of Obummer administration. Bull hockey.....

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Jun 9, 2018 04:42:30   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
debeda wrote:
Grandpa was a wise one, marine!!

Yes he was. Taught me everything I know, and a few things I didn't need to know😆

Bless you debeda. And ALL true America patriots everywhere.

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