Trump's Attacks on the Working Class 3 - Forced Arbitration: And now for my third assessment on how Trump and his axis are attacking the working family. I've covered his resistance to...

straightUp Loc: California

And now for my third assessment on how Trump and his axis are attacking the working family. I've covered his resistance to the fiduciary rule that would have prevented retirement fund managers from scamming the savings workers put aside for retirement (no one had an answer to that one) and I covered his tax policy that WILL cut services to working families while creating a record-breaking $1 trillion deficit. This third exhibit focuses on his pressure to force arbitration.

Unlike the tax cut scam, this assault is not so much a direct attack as it is a disabling of protections. So like the fiduciary rule that is designed to protect retirement savings, the fight to allow workers the right to take their employers to court when their employers have violated state, local or even federal labor laws is being denied.

This is a somewhat complicated issue, which many people won't have the patience to understand, so instead of explaining this myself only to be told that I'm too wordy, I'm going to refer to this very well-written article that explains the recent Supreme Court decision on the matter and some background to put the decision (and my opinion) in context. If you prefer simple statements that lack detail, feel free to fast forward to my conclusion...

http://www.scotusblog.com/2018/05/opinion-analysis-employers-prevail-in-arbitration-case/

Conclusion:
With new forced arbitration clauses becoming popular with employers, workers are being forced to give up their rights as citizens to bring grievances to court. This effectively gives the employers the right to ignore labor laws and treat their workers any way they want. Since the court decision, penned by Gorsuch, was finalized last week, an estimated 60 million workers have lost their rights this way. This is what I call a silent attack on the working family because the crimes occur in the private sector and the refusal by Trump and the Republicans in the public sector to do anything to protect the workers from these crimes insure that the crimes themselves and any resulting arbitration will remain private business and therefore unseen by the public.

This isn't the first time Americans have been here, in 1925 The Federal Arbitration Act, backed up the employers who wanted to block their workers from the courts and force them to settle disputes directly with their employers. But nine years later it was becoming increasingly obvious that the workers have no leverage as arbitration often came down to "do you want to keep your job?" So The National Labor Relations Act was passed to allow workers to arbitrate collectively, so not the worker can answer the previous question with "do you want production to halt?" At least this way the table is even. But recently, companies have been adding clauses to their arbitration agreements that say workers cannot collectively arbitrate. This too was enforced by the court decision and now American workers can't even rally together.

There is no doubt this will cause almost every employer in the nation to include similar arbitration agreements as a means of limiting liability and this will no doubt make our labor laws moot. I can pay someone 65 cents an hour and work him for 16 hours a day and even though I'd be breaking labor laws it wouldn't matter if the worker can't even take m to court.

Make no mistake... If you are a working class American like I am (any American that needs to work for a living) Trump is NOT your friend... he is your ENEMY!

old marine Loc: America home of the brave

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straightUp wrote:

And now for my third assessment on how Trump and his axis are attacking the working family. I've covered his resistance to the fiduciary rule that would have prevented retirement fund managers from scamming the savings workers put aside for retirement (no one had an answer to that one) and I covered his tax policy that WILL cut services to working families while creating a record-breaking $1 trillion deficit. This third exhibit focuses on his pressure to force arbitration.

Unlike the tax cut scam, this assault is not so much a direct attack as it is a disabling of protections. So like the fiduciary rule that is designed to protect retirement savings, the fight to allow workers the right to take their employers to court when their employers have violated state, local or even federal labor laws is being denied.

This is a somewhat complicated issue, which many people won't have the patience to understand, so instead of explaining this myself only to be told that I'm too wordy, I'm going to refer to this very well-written article that explains the recent Supreme Court decision on the matter and some background to put the decision (and my opinion) in context. If you prefer simple statements that lack detail, feel free to fast forward to my conclusion...

http://www.scotusblog.com/2018/05/opinion-analysis-employers-prevail-in-arbitration-case/

Conclusion:
With new forced arbitration clauses becoming popular with employers, workers are being forced to give up their rights as citizens to bring grievances to court. This effectively gives the employers the right to ignore labor laws and treat their workers any way they want. Since the court decision, penned by Gorsuch, was finalized last week, an estimated 60 million workers have lost their rights this way. This is what I call a silent attack on the working family because the crimes occur in the private sector and the refusal by Trump and the Republicans in the public sector to do anything to protect the workers from these crimes insure that the crimes themselves and any resulting arbitration will remain private business and therefore unseen by the public.

This isn't the first time Americans have been here, in 1925 The Federal Arbitration Act, backed up the employers who wanted to block their workers from the courts and force them to settle disputes directly with their employers. But nine years later it was becoming increasingly obvious that the workers have no leverage as arbitration often came down to "do you want to keep your job?" So The National Labor Relations Act was passed to allow workers to arbitrate collectively, so not the worker can answer the previous question with "do you want production to halt?" At least this way the table is even. But recently, companies have been adding clauses to their arbitration agreements that say workers cannot collectively arbitrate. This too was enforced by the court decision and now American workers can't even rally together.

There is no doubt this will cause almost every employer in the nation to include similar arbitration agreements as a means of limiting liability and this will no doubt make our labor laws moot. I can pay someone 65 cents an hour and work him for 16 hours a day and even though I'd be breaking labor laws it wouldn't matter if the worker can't even take m to court.

Make no mistake... If you are a working class American like I am (any American that needs to work for a living) Trump is NOT your friend... he is your ENEMY!

And now for my third assessment on how Trump and h... (show quote)

The only attack is the propaganda attack that you have going which is another fine example of fake and leftist, the sky is falling, fallacies. Take your leftist trash talking to Venezuela or Cuba, two miserable countries that hate liberty but love totalitarianism and its lies like you leftists.

Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA

As a rule I'm against forced arbitration.

I don't know the details, but I'm not a fan.

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

straightUp wrote:

And now for my third assessment on how Trump and his axis are attacking the working family. I've covered his resistance to the fiduciary rule that would have prevented retirement fund managers from scamming the savings workers put aside for retirement (no one had an answer to that one) and I covered his tax policy that WILL cut services to working families while creating a record-breaking $1 trillion deficit. This third exhibit focuses on his pressure to force arbitration.

Unlike the tax cut scam, this assault is not so much a direct attack as it is a disabling of protections. So like the fiduciary rule that is designed to protect retirement savings, the fight to allow workers the right to take their employers to court when their employers have violated state, local or even federal labor laws is being denied.

This is a somewhat complicated issue, which many people won't have the patience to understand, so instead of explaining this myself only to be told that I'm too wordy, I'm going to refer to this very well-written article that explains the recent Supreme Court decision on the matter and some background to put the decision (and my opinion) in context. If you prefer simple statements that lack detail, feel free to fast forward to my conclusion...

http://www.scotusblog.com/2018/05/opinion-analysis-employers-prevail-in-arbitration-case/

Conclusion:
With new forced arbitration clauses becoming popular with employers, workers are being forced to give up their rights as citizens to bring grievances to court. This effectively gives the employers the right to ignore labor laws and treat their workers any way they want. Since the court decision, penned by Gorsuch, was finalized last week, an estimated 60 million workers have lost their rights this way. This is what I call a silent attack on the working family because the crimes occur in the private sector and the refusal by Trump and the Republicans in the public sector to do anything to protect the workers from these crimes insure that the crimes themselves and any resulting arbitration will remain private business and therefore unseen by the public.

This isn't the first time Americans have been here, in 1925 The Federal Arbitration Act, backed up the employers who wanted to block their workers from the courts and force them to settle disputes directly with their employers. But nine years later it was becoming increasingly obvious that the workers have no leverage as arbitration often came down to "do you want to keep your job?" So The National Labor Relations Act was passed to allow workers to arbitrate collectively, so not the worker can answer the previous question with "do you want production to halt?" At least this way the table is even. But recently, companies have been adding clauses to their arbitration agreements that say workers cannot collectively arbitrate. This too was enforced by the court decision and now American workers can't even rally together.

There is no doubt this will cause almost every employer in the nation to include similar arbitration agreements as a means of limiting liability and this will no doubt make our labor laws moot. I can pay someone 65 cents an hour and work him for 16 hours a day and even though I'd be breaking labor laws it wouldn't matter if the worker can't even take m to court.

Make no mistake... If you are a working class American like I am (any American that needs to work for a living) Trump is NOT your friend... he is your ENEMY!

And now for my third assessment on how Trump and h... (show quote)

So many just don't see that.

It is apart of the Rights plan.
Two many of us can see that but stop short of speaking enough out about that issue.
As we lose the voice that speaks for the little man we lose even more.

The best any of us can do is to live our life's with care & empathey for others.
But each of us has to see that when we have any influance we keep that care & empathy for others alive & help it spread.

We need to stop spending our cassh on Material things that are just signs used to show how we are better off we are.
We need to understand what the role of those of Us are in the Middle.

I say it has been & unless we can make changes.
It will always be of passing on money & wealth to the top
.
As less as been at the bottom there is less to pass up.
But there has only been a demand for a bigger share to be passed up.

This is what is haappening but ignored by supporters on the Right.
They see it & feel it but refuse to see the truth.

There is an ever incrasing thinness to the liberal movement.
That is what I would say is the care & empathy for others.
Care & enpathy is losing out to the greed of the few.

It is important for us all to keep speaking out with our personal views.

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

straightUp wrote:

And now for my third assessment on how Trump and his axis are attacking the working family. I've covered his resistance to the fiduciary rule that would have prevented retirement fund managers from scamming the savings workers put aside for retirement (no one had an answer to that one) and I covered his tax policy that WILL cut services to working families while creating a record-breaking $1 trillion deficit. This third exhibit focuses on his pressure to force arbitration.

Unlike the tax cut scam, this assault is not so much a direct attack as it is a disabling of protections. So like the fiduciary rule that is designed to protect retirement savings, the fight to allow workers the right to take their employers to court when their employers have violated state, local or even federal labor laws is being denied.

This is a somewhat complicated issue, which many people won't have the patience to understand, so instead of explaining this myself only to be told that I'm too wordy, I'm going to refer to this very well-written article that explains the recent Supreme Court decision on the matter and some background to put the decision (and my opinion) in context. If you prefer simple statements that lack detail, feel free to fast forward to my conclusion...

http://www.scotusblog.com/2018/05/opinion-analysis-employers-prevail-in-arbitration-case/

Conclusion:
With new forced arbitration clauses becoming popular with employers, workers are being forced to give up their rights as citizens to bring grievances to court. This effectively gives the employers the right to ignore labor laws and treat their workers any way they want. Since the court decision, penned by Gorsuch, was finalized last week, an estimated 60 million workers have lost their rights this way. This is what I call a silent attack on the working family because the crimes occur in the private sector and the refusal by Trump and the Republicans in the public sector to do anything to protect the workers from these crimes insure that the crimes themselves and any resulting arbitration will remain private business and therefore unseen by the public.

This isn't the first time Americans have been here, in 1925 The Federal Arbitration Act, backed up the employers who wanted to block their workers from the courts and force them to settle disputes directly with their employers. But nine years later it was becoming increasingly obvious that the workers have no leverage as arbitration often came down to "do you want to keep your job?" So The National Labor Relations Act was passed to allow workers to arbitrate collectively, so not the worker can answer the previous question with "do you want production to halt?" At least this way the table is even. But recently, companies have been adding clauses to their arbitration agreements that say workers cannot collectively arbitrate. This too was enforced by the court decision and now American workers can't even rally together.

There is no doubt this will cause almost every employer in the nation to include similar arbitration agreements as a means of limiting liability and this will no doubt make our labor laws moot. I can pay someone 65 cents an hour and work him for 16 hours a day and even though I'd be breaking labor laws it wouldn't matter if the worker can't even take m to court.

Make no mistake... If you are a working class American like I am (any American that needs to work for a living) Trump is NOT your friend... he is your ENEMY!

And now for my third assessment on how Trump and h... (show quote)

I call it communism trying to disguise itself as capitalism. What's the difference between a country where the State owns everything, including labor and production, and a country where corporations own everything? The name - everything else is the same.

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

Super Dave wrote:

As a rule I'm against forced arbitration.

I don't know the details, but I'm not a fan.

The average person has been under attack by the Power structure.

We all need to speak out with what we see as good & on things we feel harm us.

Our voices have been too silent for too long.

Things we feel needing change will only change when we all speak out.

May the Spirit be with us.

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

lpnmajor wrote:

I call it communism trying to disguise itself as capitalism. What's the difference between a country where the State owns everything, including labor and production, and a country where corporations own everything? The name - everything else is the same.

I say what we have is Capitalism Working as Capitalism works best.
Works best for the few.

I say all governments have been taken over by the Few.

Just get enough people to feel that liberalism is bad & greed takes over.

There is much good in the World & much that is not.

We have been faced with the misfortune of having the influence of the greediest.
Out weighting the care & empathy that is needed.

The voices & acts of those with the most care & empathy for others needs to be the acts & voices heard & felt the strongest.

We shall go forth & spread the Good Word.

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

Floyd Brown wrote:

I say what we have is Capitalism Working as Capita... (show quote)

It doesn't matter if you call it a Congress, that is beholden to Corporations, or you call it a politburo..................they function in exactly the same way.

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

drlarrygino wrote:

The only attack is the propaganda attack that you have going which is another fine example of fake and leftist, the sky is falling, fallacies. Take your leftist trash talking to Venezuela or Cuba, two miserable countries that hate liberty but love totalitarianism and its lies like you leftists.

Just where do you think you rank in the system you seem to think you are in.
How much do you think those you support truly have your best interest at heart.

You are right about trash talking .
Just how & what Liberties have you gained since Trump has been in office?
How is your life better to day than under Obama?
Or has it all been a bunch of trash talk coming from Trump.

old marine Loc: America home of the brave

drlarrygino wrote:

The only attack is the propaganda attack that you have going which is another fine example of fake and leftist, the sky is falling, fallacies. Take your leftist trash talking to Venezuela or Cuba, two miserable countries that hate liberty but love totalitarianism and its lies like you leftists.

All these attacks is an attempt to slow down President Trump from correcting Obummer shitty rules and regulations that hinder job growth and bringing back companies that were driven overseas by Obummer stupid rules and regulations.

The socialist Demon-Rats swamp/sewer dwelling traitors party is on the way out. The true America patriots will oust the socialist member's and become once again a true American patriots party...

God bless America and the true America patriots and President Trump and his beautiful first Lady.

working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

lpnmajor wrote:

I call it communism trying to disguise itself as capitalism. What's the difference between a country where the State owns everything, including labor and production, and a country where corporations own everything? The name - everything else is the same.

Agreed. From the perspective of working folks, the only difference would be the identity of the elite class. Communist or capitalist doesn't matter if the policies enacted transfer most wealth upward.

http://www.cbpp.org/research/poverty-and-inequality/a-guide-to-statistics-on-historical-trends-in-income-inequality

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

working class stiff wrote:

Agreed. From the perspective of working folks, the only difference would be the identity of the elite class. Communist or capitalist doesn't matter if the policies enacted transfer most wealth upward.

http://www.cbpp.org/research/poverty-and-inequality/a-guide-to-statistics-on-historical-trends-in-income-inequality

Yep. In theory, every American has a chance to prosper.....................but they'll have to go to the same sources for funding..................the elite, who have all the money. Remember when Steve Jobs got kicked out of his own company?

They begged him back of course, but he understood who really owned his company - and it wasn't him.

There will always be income inequality, because without it, the elite aren't elite anymore.

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

lpnmajor wrote:

Yep. In theory, every American has a chance to pro... (show quote)

What is missing is that with rights come obligations.

It seem seems to me that that the right to have much is missing the obligation that goes with it.

The idea present today is obligations are not a part of what is asked from those with the most.
The obligations are imposed on the masses.

straightUp Loc: California

drlarrygino wrote:

The only attack is the propaganda attack that you have going which is another fine example of fake and leftist, the sky is falling, fallacies. Take your leftist trash talking to Venezuela or Cuba, two miserable countries that hate liberty but love totalitarianism and its lies like you leftists.

What part of this do you not believe? The only part I speculated on is the part where I say other employers will follow suit. As for the court decision and Trump's position on the issue, these are well documented facts. Don't be such a sheep... Be a man and look into this for the sake of your own family, you owe that to them and to yourself.