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May 27, 2018 11:56:11   #
Cripple
 
I just read some survey that 85% of Republicans believe the Mueller investigation into the Russian stuff has been a waist of time with NO indictments. Deceit, where did you hear/read such a lie? 19 criminal indictments (Fact not in dispute but clearly most of those are Russians), 6 U.S. people indictments, 5 of the 6 plead guilty in court (that's criminal conduct), 1 person disputing such a charge (he will be going to court with a judge & jury), 72 criminal charges.

A Lie of Omission is Still a Lie!

Being ignorant of certain Facts is not your fault, if you continue to ignore relevant Facts is your fault, hence you are an unethical person! I'm only concentrating on the top 3 to 5 ideals of what you think Ethics are. No, I stay away from using the word morals since the word morals tends to relate to religion and I would rather avoid such a discussion in this writing. If you want to talk religion leaving the politics out, yes I could do that.
If YOU are a person who continues to support those lying to you then YOU are not an ethical person, you know that. Too many people could not pass a 5th grade science test refusing to accept a relevant fact. Lawyer & former Mayer of New York, is almost everywhere you look being a lawyer fighting in the public opinion arena. What a liar!
Rudy Giuliani is not an ethical person. If you patronize, support, pay attention to any of those lies then you are not an ethical person who also could not pass a 5th grade science test.

Politics, lies everywhere, what are you thinking? I don't blame those elected idiots who lie to you (to me they are just scum), but I do blame YOU for refusing to believe relevant facts disputing what you believe. A fact is not simply a fact because it falls into your belief system.

"Everything you say/do is a direct result of your ethics."

I agree the Media can not be trusted. Yes, you can read volumes of newspapers that omit news so you are not aware of. Hence, I would NOT call whoever calls themselves news, they are entertainment. Those who call themselves news is really no different than an animated show. What kind of unethical idiot are you to keep supporting lies?
Show me a person who says all politicians lie and I'll show you an unethical person (they may be correct but I ask about their vote). How did this politician get in that elected position? You voted them in (what an idiot I call them). Who is your domestic enemy? Those who could vote and decide not to. Those with a different opinion are just fun, makes the world go around.
Show me a person who says you have to violate laws to be President and I'll show you an unethical person!
No I'm not a Hillary supporter, Trump supporter, in-fact I'm a registered Independent. I see unethical slaves running around doing the bidding of their unethical masters. Yes, I'm a rude & crude person but I'm also an ethical person surrounded by unethical people.

"Do you believe in equality?" Who's going to say no? Believe it or not there are people who would say no. We look upon those people as scum and will not do anything to support/encourage such non-belief in equality. If you do anything to support un-equality believers then you are encouraging unethical conduct hence you are an unethical person. Hey, you did it to yourself, the real question is if YOU are going to continue such conduct?
If the major political parties (Republicans & Democrats) saw people doing to them what I did (call someone in your State and switch from Republican to Independent) then you would see a major change in thinking/sound-bites from these people.
"Is a woman a person?" Yes, a little shock-n-awe! Of course a woman is a person! You then believe in equality, in-part so the "in-part" applying to you proves you are an unethical person.
I like to get this stuff off my chest because I once fell into the gullible idiots I mentioned before, Not Any More! I will not allow another "Gulf of Tonkin" to change my thinking. If you don't know what I'm talking about then shame on you! U.S. society did not want another war, so the politicians at the time just "made-it-up" and the media all jumped on it so the attitude across the country changed so the percentages in surveys changed & U.S. people supported a war. So recognizing those who still did not support a war the politicians played-games with the description calling Vietnam a "Police Action", the same as they did with the Korea War, was never a war then or now, rather a "Police Action". So back then the U.S. society believed a lie since the August incidents in the "Gulf of Tonkin" NEVER HAPPENED! So many Americans died like 58,000+ and now nobody seems to care because here they are today believing lies over and over again. The majority still believes in bigotry and all the lies no different than ancient Greece a few hundred years B.C. Look for yourself, unless you're that lazy and like being ignorant!
I stopped the network news some time ago seeing they only think of financial profit, Money. So they make money lying to you, so they lie! These people are paid outrageous amounts of money to keep talking and when you believe the lies you are an unethical as those unethical slaves. These people are not reading news, they are reading a script. Not a Journalist, rather an actor/Host.
I had another incident yesterday afternoon discussing the lies she believed. I get so shocked and mostly disappointed seeing all the proof they are just as stupid (ignorant, dumb, unethical) as those ancient Greeks around 2,500 years ago. Examples all around you.
Nothing is going to change until YOU change. Yes, that might be effort on your part so many won't even try that they would rather remain stupid, dumb, ignorant, really an unethical person. They find it easier to argue in support of lies than put any effort to be an ethical person.

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May 27, 2018 12:00:59   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Cripple wrote:
I just read some survey that 85% of Republicans believe the Mueller investigation into the Russian stuff has been a waist of time with NO indictments. Deceit, where did you hear/read such a lie? 19 criminal indictments (Fact not in dispute but clearly most of those are Russians), 6 U.S. people indictments, 5 of the 6 plead guilty in court (that's criminal conduct), 1 person disputing such a charge (he will be going to court with a judge & jury), 72 criminal charges.

A Lie of Omission is Still a Lie!

Being ignorant of certain Facts is not your fault, if you continue to ignore relevant Facts is your fault, hence you are an unethical person! I'm only concentrating on the top 3 to 5 ideals of what you think Ethics are. No, I stay away from using the word morals since the word morals tends to relate to religion and I would rather avoid such a discussion in this writing. If you want to talk religion leaving the politics out, yes I could do that.
If YOU are a person who continues to support those lying to you then YOU are not an ethical person, you know that. Too many people could not pass a 5th grade science test refusing to accept a relevant fact. Lawyer & former Mayer of New York, is almost everywhere you look being a lawyer fighting in the public opinion arena. What a liar!
Rudy Giuliani is not an ethical person. If you patronize, support, pay attention to any of those lies then you are not an ethical person who also could not pass a 5th grade science test.

Politics, lies everywhere, what are you thinking? I don't blame those elected idiots who lie to you (to me they are just scum), but I do blame YOU for refusing to believe relevant facts disputing what you believe. A fact is not simply a fact because it falls into your belief system.

"Everything you say/do is a direct result of your ethics."

I agree the Media can not be trusted. Yes, you can read volumes of newspapers that omit news so you are not aware of. Hence, I would NOT call whoever calls themselves news, they are entertainment. Those who call themselves news is really no different than an animated show. What kind of unethical idiot are you to keep supporting lies?
Show me a person who says all politicians lie and I'll show you an unethical person (they may be correct but I ask about their vote). How did this politician get in that elected position? You voted them in (what an idiot I call them). Who is your domestic enemy? Those who could vote and decide not to. Those with a different opinion are just fun, makes the world go around.
Show me a person who says you have to violate laws to be President and I'll show you an unethical person!
No I'm not a Hillary supporter, Trump supporter, in-fact I'm a registered Independent. I see unethical slaves running around doing the bidding of their unethical masters. Yes, I'm a rude & crude person but I'm also an ethical person surrounded by unethical people.

"Do you believe in equality?" Who's going to say no? Believe it or not there are people who would say no. We look upon those people as scum and will not do anything to support/encourage such non-belief in equality. If you do anything to support un-equality believers then you are encouraging unethical conduct hence you are an unethical person. Hey, you did it to yourself, the real question is if YOU are going to continue such conduct?
If the major political parties (Republicans & Democrats) saw people doing to them what I did (call someone in your State and switch from Republican to Independent) then you would see a major change in thinking/sound-bites from these people.
"Is a woman a person?" Yes, a little shock-n-awe! Of course a woman is a person! You then believe in equality, in-part so the "in-part" applying to you proves you are an unethical person.
I like to get this stuff off my chest because I once fell into the gullible idiots I mentioned before, Not Any More! I will not allow another "Gulf of Tonkin" to change my thinking. If you don't know what I'm talking about then shame on you! U.S. society did not want another war, so the politicians at the time just "made-it-up" and the media all jumped on it so the attitude across the country changed so the percentages in surveys changed & U.S. people supported a war. So recognizing those who still did not support a war the politicians played-games with the description calling Vietnam a "Police Action", the same as they did with the Korea War, was never a war then or now, rather a "Police Action". So back then the U.S. society believed a lie since the August incidents in the "Gulf of Tonkin" NEVER HAPPENED! So many Americans died like 58,000+ and now nobody seems to care because here they are today believing lies over and over again. The majority still believes in bigotry and all the lies no different than ancient Greece a few hundred years B.C. Look for yourself, unless you're that lazy and like being ignorant!
I stopped the network news some time ago seeing they only think of financial profit, Money. So they make money lying to you, so they lie! These people are paid outrageous amounts of money to keep talking and when you believe the lies you are an unethical as those unethical slaves. These people are not reading news, they are reading a script. Not a Journalist, rather an actor/Host.
I had another incident yesterday afternoon discussing the lies she believed. I get so shocked and mostly disappointed seeing all the proof they are just as stupid (ignorant, dumb, unethical) as those ancient Greeks around 2,500 years ago. Examples all around you.
Nothing is going to change until YOU change. Yes, that might be effort on your part so many won't even try that they would rather remain stupid, dumb, ignorant, really an unethical person. They find it easier to argue in support of lies than put any effort to be an ethical person.
I just read some survey that 85% of Republicans be... (show quote)




Are you attempting to get to a point?

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May 27, 2018 12:01:35   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Cripple wrote:
I just read some survey that 85% of Republicans believe the Mueller investigation into the Russian stuff has been a waist of time with NO indictments. Deceit, where did you hear/read such a lie? 19 criminal indictments (Fact not in dispute but clearly most of those are Russians), 6 U.S. people indictments, 5 of the 6 plead guilty in court (that's criminal conduct), 1 person disputing such a charge (he will be going to court with a judge & jury), 72 criminal charges.

A Lie of Omission is Still a Lie!

Being ignorant of certain Facts is not your fault, if you continue to ignore relevant Facts is your fault, hence you are an unethical person! I'm only concentrating on the top 3 to 5 ideals of what you think Ethics are. No, I stay away from using the word morals since the word morals tends to relate to religion and I would rather avoid such a discussion in this writing. If you want to talk religion leaving the politics out, yes I could do that.
If YOU are a person who continues to support those lying to you then YOU are not an ethical person, you know that. Too many people could not pass a 5th grade science test refusing to accept a relevant fact. Lawyer & former Mayer of New York, is almost everywhere you look being a lawyer fighting in the public opinion arena. What a liar!
Rudy Giuliani is not an ethical person. If you patronize, support, pay attention to any of those lies then you are not an ethical person who also could not pass a 5th grade science test.

Politics, lies everywhere, what are you thinking? I don't blame those elected idiots who lie to you (to me they are just scum), but I do blame YOU for refusing to believe relevant facts disputing what you believe. A fact is not simply a fact because it falls into your belief system.

"Everything you say/do is a direct result of your ethics."

I agree the Media can not be trusted. Yes, you can read volumes of newspapers that omit news so you are not aware of. Hence, I would NOT call whoever calls themselves news, they are entertainment. Those who call themselves news is really no different than an animated show. What kind of unethical idiot are you to keep supporting lies?
Show me a person who says all politicians lie and I'll show you an unethical person (they may be correct but I ask about their vote). How did this politician get in that elected position? You voted them in (what an idiot I call them). Who is your domestic enemy? Those who could vote and decide not to. Those with a different opinion are just fun, makes the world go around.
Show me a person who says you have to violate laws to be President and I'll show you an unethical person!
No I'm not a Hillary supporter, Trump supporter, in-fact I'm a registered Independent. I see unethical slaves running around doing the bidding of their unethical masters. Yes, I'm a rude & crude person but I'm also an ethical person surrounded by unethical people.

"Do you believe in equality?" Who's going to say no? Believe it or not there are people who would say no. We look upon those people as scum and will not do anything to support/encourage such non-belief in equality. If you do anything to support un-equality believers then you are encouraging unethical conduct hence you are an unethical person. Hey, you did it to yourself, the real question is if YOU are going to continue such conduct?
If the major political parties (Republicans & Democrats) saw people doing to them what I did (call someone in your State and switch from Republican to Independent) then you would see a major change in thinking/sound-bites from these people.
"Is a woman a person?" Yes, a little shock-n-awe! Of course a woman is a person! You then believe in equality, in-part so the "in-part" applying to you proves you are an unethical person.
I like to get this stuff off my chest because I once fell into the gullible idiots I mentioned before, Not Any More! I will not allow another "Gulf of Tonkin" to change my thinking. If you don't know what I'm talking about then shame on you! U.S. society did not want another war, so the politicians at the time just "made-it-up" and the media all jumped on it so the attitude across the country changed so the percentages in surveys changed & U.S. people supported a war. So recognizing those who still did not support a war the politicians played-games with the description calling Vietnam a "Police Action", the same as they did with the Korea War, was never a war then or now, rather a "Police Action". So back then the U.S. society believed a lie since the August incidents in the "Gulf of Tonkin" NEVER HAPPENED! So many Americans died like 58,000+ and now nobody seems to care because here they are today believing lies over and over again. The majority still believes in bigotry and all the lies no different than ancient Greece a few hundred years B.C. Look for yourself, unless you're that lazy and like being ignorant!
I stopped the network news some time ago seeing they only think of financial profit, Money. So they make money lying to you, so they lie! These people are paid outrageous amounts of money to keep talking and when you believe the lies you are an unethical as those unethical slaves. These people are not reading news, they are reading a script. Not a Journalist, rather an actor/Host.
I had another incident yesterday afternoon discussing the lies she believed. I get so shocked and mostly disappointed seeing all the proof they are just as stupid (ignorant, dumb, unethical) as those ancient Greeks around 2,500 years ago. Examples all around you.
Nothing is going to change until YOU change. Yes, that might be effort on your part so many won't even try that they would rather remain stupid, dumb, ignorant, really an unethical person. They find it easier to argue in support of lies than put any effort to be an ethical person.
I just read some survey that 85% of Republicans be... (show quote)


Interesting piece. Of course, a discussion about how important ethics is should mean that you, yourself, have the truth and know what is and is not truth. Am I right??

Lets see a list of what you belief to be true and a list of what you believe to be untrue and we can see if all of this ethics talk applies to you as well.

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May 27, 2018 12:56:30   #
son of witless
 
byronglimish wrote:
Are you attempting to get to a point?


Many posters including myself at times, fall into rambling. So many thoughts you feel need to be expressed that you forget to look at whether your post is so long that nobody will care to read it or care once they do read it.

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May 27, 2018 14:18:22   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
son of witless wrote:
Many posters including myself at times, fall into rambling. So many thoughts you feel need to be expressed that you forget to look at whether your post is so long that nobody will care to read it or care once they do read it.


Most of us lose interest in extensive rambling.. I'm saying this to you..

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May 27, 2018 14:30:58   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Cripple wrote:
I just read some survey that 85% of Republicans believe the Mueller investigation into the Russian stuff has been a waist of time with NO indictments. Deceit, where did you hear/read such a lie? 19 criminal indictments (Fact not in dispute but clearly most of those are Russians), 6 U.S. people indictments, 5 of the 6 plead guilty in court (that's criminal conduct), 1 person disputing such a charge (he will be going to court with a judge & jury), 72 criminal charges.

A Lie of Omission is Still a Lie!

Being ignorant of certain Facts is not your fault, if you continue to ignore relevant Facts is your fault, hence you are an unethical person! I'm only concentrating on the top 3 to 5 ideals of what you think Ethics are. No, I stay away from using the word morals since the word morals tends to relate to religion and I would rather avoid such a discussion in this writing. If you want to talk religion leaving the politics out, yes I could do that.
If YOU are a person who continues to support those lying to you then YOU are not an ethical person, you know that. Too many people could not pass a 5th grade science test refusing to accept a relevant fact. Lawyer & former Mayer of New York, is almost everywhere you look being a lawyer fighting in the public opinion arena. What a liar!
Rudy Giuliani is not an ethical person. If you patronize, support, pay attention to any of those lies then you are not an ethical person who also could not pass a 5th grade science test.

Politics, lies everywhere, what are you thinking? I don't blame those elected idiots who lie to you (to me they are just scum), but I do blame YOU for refusing to believe relevant facts disputing what you believe. A fact is not simply a fact because it falls into your belief system.

"Everything you say/do is a direct result of your ethics."

I agree the Media can not be trusted. Yes, you can read volumes of newspapers that omit news so you are not aware of. Hence, I would NOT call whoever calls themselves news, they are entertainment. Those who call themselves news is really no different than an animated show. What kind of unethical idiot are you to keep supporting lies?
Show me a person who says all politicians lie and I'll show you an unethical person (they may be correct but I ask about their vote). How did this politician get in that elected position? You voted them in (what an idiot I call them). Who is your domestic enemy? Those who could vote and decide not to. Those with a different opinion are just fun, makes the world go around.
Show me a person who says you have to violate laws to be President and I'll show you an unethical person!
No I'm not a Hillary supporter, Trump supporter, in-fact I'm a registered Independent. I see unethical slaves running around doing the bidding of their unethical masters. Yes, I'm a rude & crude person but I'm also an ethical person surrounded by unethical people.

"Do you believe in equality?" Who's going to say no? Believe it or not there are people who would say no. We look upon those people as scum and will not do anything to support/encourage such non-belief in equality. If you do anything to support un-equality believers then you are encouraging unethical conduct hence you are an unethical person. Hey, you did it to yourself, the real question is if YOU are going to continue such conduct?
If the major political parties (Republicans & Democrats) saw people doing to them what I did (call someone in your State and switch from Republican to Independent) then you would see a major change in thinking/sound-bites from these people.
"Is a woman a person?" Yes, a little shock-n-awe! Of course a woman is a person! You then believe in equality, in-part so the "in-part" applying to you proves you are an unethical person.
I like to get this stuff off my chest because I once fell into the gullible idiots I mentioned before, Not Any More! I will not allow another "Gulf of Tonkin" to change my thinking. If you don't know what I'm talking about then shame on you! U.S. society did not want another war, so the politicians at the time just "made-it-up" and the media all jumped on it so the attitude across the country changed so the percentages in surveys changed & U.S. people supported a war. So recognizing those who still did not support a war the politicians played-games with the description calling Vietnam a "Police Action", the same as they did with the Korea War, was never a war then or now, rather a "Police Action". So back then the U.S. society believed a lie since the August incidents in the "Gulf of Tonkin" NEVER HAPPENED! So many Americans died like 58,000+ and now nobody seems to care because here they are today believing lies over and over again. The majority still believes in bigotry and all the lies no different than ancient Greece a few hundred years B.C. Look for yourself, unless you're that lazy and like being ignorant!
I stopped the network news some time ago seeing they only think of financial profit, Money. So they make money lying to you, so they lie! These people are paid outrageous amounts of money to keep talking and when you believe the lies you are an unethical as those unethical slaves. These people are not reading news, they are reading a script. Not a Journalist, rather an actor/Host.
I had another incident yesterday afternoon discussing the lies she believed. I get so shocked and mostly disappointed seeing all the proof they are just as stupid (ignorant, dumb, unethical) as those ancient Greeks around 2,500 years ago. Examples all around you.
Nothing is going to change until YOU change. Yes, that might be effort on your part so many won't even try that they would rather remain stupid, dumb, ignorant, really an unethical person. They find it easier to argue in support of lies than put any effort to be an ethical person.
I just read some survey that 85% of Republicans be... (show quote)


Virtually right out of the gate, your post began with an erroneous premise and proceeded to get worse.

eth·ics
ˈeTHiks/
noun
1. Moral principles that govern a person's behavior or the conducting of an activity.
"medical ethics also enter into the question"

synonyms: moral code, morals, morality, values, rights and wrongs, principles, ideals, standards (of behavior), value system, virtues, dictates of conscience
"your so-called newspaper is clearly not burdened by a sense of ethics"

2. The branch of knowledge that deals with moral principles.

As for the rest of this post, life is too short to spend refuting your stream of consciousness diatribe.

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May 27, 2018 14:34:41   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
pafret wrote:
Virtually right out of the gate, your post began with an erroneous premise and proceeded to get worse.

eth·ics
ˈeTHiks/
noun
1. Moral principles that govern a person's behavior or the conducting of an activity.
"medical ethics also enter into the question"

synonyms: moral code, morals, morality, values, rights and wrongs, principles, ideals, standards (of behavior), value system, virtues, dictates of conscience
"your so-called newspaper is clearly not burdened by a sense of ethics"

2. The branch of knowledge that deals with moral principles.

As for the rest of this post, life is too short to spend refuting your stream of consciousness diatribe.
Virtually right out of the gate, your post began w... (show quote)


Yep!

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May 27, 2018 15:20:34   #
Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas
 
Cripple wrote:
I just read some survey that 85% of Republicans believe the Mueller investigation into the Russian stuff has been a waist of time with NO indictments. Deceit, where did you hear/read such a lie? 19 criminal indictments (Fact not in dispute but clearly most of those are Russians), 6 U.S. people indictments, 5 of the 6 plead guilty in court (that's criminal conduct), 1 person disputing such a charge (he will be going to court with a judge & jury), 72 criminal charges.

A Lie of Omission is Still a Lie!

Being ignorant of certain Facts is not your fault, if you continue to ignore relevant Facts is your fault, hence you are an unethical person! I'm only concentrating on the top 3 to 5 ideals of what you think Ethics are. No, I stay away from using the word morals since the word morals tends to relate to religion and I would rather avoid such a discussion in this writing. If you want to talk religion leaving the politics out, yes I could do that.
If YOU are a person who continues to support those lying to you then YOU are not an ethical person, you know that. Too many people could not pass a 5th grade science test refusing to accept a relevant fact. Lawyer & former Mayer of New York, is almost everywhere you look being a lawyer fighting in the public opinion arena. What a liar!
Rudy Giuliani is not an ethical person. If you patronize, support, pay attention to any of those lies then you are not an ethical person who also could not pass a 5th grade science test.

Politics, lies everywhere, what are you thinking? I don't blame those elected idiots who lie to you (to me they are just scum), but I do blame YOU for refusing to believe relevant facts disputing what you believe. A fact is not simply a fact because it falls into your belief system.

"Everything you say/do is a direct result of your ethics."

I agree the Media can not be trusted. Yes, you can read volumes of newspapers that omit news so you are not aware of. Hence, I would NOT call whoever calls themselves news, they are entertainment. Those who call themselves news is really no different than an animated show. What kind of unethical idiot are you to keep supporting lies?
Show me a person who says all politicians lie and I'll show you an unethical person (they may be correct but I ask about their vote). How did this politician get in that elected position? You voted them in (what an idiot I call them). Who is your domestic enemy? Those who could vote and decide not to. Those with a different opinion are just fun, makes the world go around.
Show me a person who says you have to violate laws to be President and I'll show you an unethical person!
No I'm not a Hillary supporter, Trump supporter, in-fact I'm a registered Independent. I see unethical slaves running around doing the bidding of their unethical masters. Yes, I'm a rude & crude person but I'm also an ethical person surrounded by unethical people.

"Do you believe in equality?" Who's going to say no? Believe it or not there are people who would say no. We look upon those people as scum and will not do anything to support/encourage such non-belief in equality. If you do anything to support un-equality believers then you are encouraging unethical conduct hence you are an unethical person. Hey, you did it to yourself, the real question is if YOU are going to continue such conduct?
If the major political parties (Republicans & Democrats) saw people doing to them what I did (call someone in your State and switch from Republican to Independent) then you would see a major change in thinking/sound-bites from these people.
"Is a woman a person?" Yes, a little shock-n-awe! Of course a woman is a person! You then believe in equality, in-part so the "in-part" applying to you proves you are an unethical person.
I like to get this stuff off my chest because I once fell into the gullible idiots I mentioned before, Not Any More! I will not allow another "Gulf of Tonkin" to change my thinking. If you don't know what I'm talking about then shame on you! U.S. society did not want another war, so the politicians at the time just "made-it-up" and the media all jumped on it so the attitude across the country changed so the percentages in surveys changed & U.S. people supported a war. So recognizing those who still did not support a war the politicians played-games with the description calling Vietnam a "Police Action", the same as they did with the Korea War, was never a war then or now, rather a "Police Action". So back then the U.S. society believed a lie since the August incidents in the "Gulf of Tonkin" NEVER HAPPENED! So many Americans died like 58,000+ and now nobody seems to care because here they are today believing lies over and over again. The majority still believes in bigotry and all the lies no different than ancient Greece a few hundred years B.C. Look for yourself, unless you're that lazy and like being ignorant!
I stopped the network news some time ago seeing they only think of financial profit, Money. So they make money lying to you, so they lie! These people are paid outrageous amounts of money to keep talking and when you believe the lies you are an unethical as those unethical slaves. These people are not reading news, they are reading a script. Not a Journalist, rather an actor/Host.
I had another incident yesterday afternoon discussing the lies she believed. I get so shocked and mostly disappointed seeing all the proof they are just as stupid (ignorant, dumb, unethical) as those ancient Greeks around 2,500 years ago. Examples all around you.
Nothing is going to change until YOU change. Yes, that might be effort on your part so many won't even try that they would rather remain stupid, dumb, ignorant, really an unethical person. They find it easier to argue in support of lies than put any effort to be an ethical person.
I just read some survey that 85% of Republicans be... (show quote)


Why do you call yourself cripple ?

Do you have a physical disability ?

Is it "unethical" of me to ask ?

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May 27, 2018 16:48:58   #
Cripple
 
nwtk OK response. There isn't enough paper & pencil on so many topics of what is a fact and what isn't. You'll have to be more specific. As to me having the truth? Ethics, it has taken too many years, even too many decades, for me to realize how important ethics is & using such in conversation. I wish I knew then what I know now; as people have said since the first civilization, probably before. My opinion has changed on so many political issues when I was forced into an eye-opening position. I was wrong! I just took the position of what I heard & discovered I was lied to (right-wing network news). I have become a researcher (honestly I dislike being a researcher, not my specialty) to find the facts (& facts are always true, the issue is if the fact is relevant).
Been there myself, the comment meaning me, myself have the truth. I don't know everything, but have learned to keep my mouth shut on a topic until I have researched and learned the truth via relevant facts. I have used the same words as an insult to someone. You are correct to the point I just said. Once I research a topic (issue or statement made) and discover facts then I do know the truth (as much as is relevant). A topic I have not personally researched (I've become a cynic, taken critical thinking to the next level) I've recently learned to keep my mouth shut & don't trust anyone any-longer.

Former Mayor Giuliani I've previously researched (learning what/who is a credible site is difficult) to discover that man should have been dis-barred and service prison time. I don't think he would have been a Mayor with that behind him. Now, if you want to know the SCOTUS involved identifying ol Rudy is scum then I may put in the effort to dig-up that info. (specifics)
I do know that if you lie to me once is all it takes for me to not trust you again (you meaning anyone). I'm a bit sick of so many believing lies and clearly unethical people. Those who still support someone (elected or not) when unethical conduct has been proven. I first say they deserve what they get, the problem is I'm getting it also and don't believe I deserve it, good or bad.
I'm old enough to remember a few things the old comments "Only Nixon could go to China", I was disgusted when I discovered North VC withdrew from the bargaining table, then Nixon ordered Hanoi bombed and after a bit of that back to the bargaining table they came. The clear quotes of Nixon via his tapes and clear facts like the Saturday Night Massacre, Nixon no longer deserves to be President. Get ready, polls taken just after Nixon resigned showed he had 25% support. That's people who knew they were lied to but didn't care, they supported Nixon regardless.
Hope I provided an adequate response.

nwtk2007 wrote:
Interesting piece. Of course, a discussion about how important ethics is should mean that you, yourself, have the truth and know what is and is not truth. Am I right??

Lets see a list of what you belief to be true and a list of what you believe to be untrue and we can see if all of this ethics talk applies to you as well.

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May 27, 2018 16:54:24   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Cripple wrote:
nwtk OK response. There isn't enough paper & pencil on so many topics of what is a fact and what isn't. You'll have to be more specific. As to me having the truth? Ethics, it has taken too many years, even too many decades, for me to realize how important ethics is & using such in conversation. I wish I knew then what I know now; as people have said since the first civilization, probably before. My opinion has changed on so many political issues when I was forced into an eye-opening position. I was wrong! I just took the position of what I heard & discovered I was lied to (right-wing network news). I have become a researcher (honestly I dislike being a researcher, not my specialty) to find the facts (& facts are always true, the issue is if the fact is relevant).
Been there myself, the comment meaning me, myself have the truth. I don't know everything, but have learned to keep my mouth shut on a topic until I have researched and learned the truth via relevant facts. I have used the same words as an insult to someone. You are correct to the point I just said. Once I research a topic (issue or statement made) and discover facts then I do know the truth (as much as is relevant). A topic I have not personally researched (I've become a cynic, taken critical thinking to the next level) I've recently learned to keep my mouth shut & don't trust anyone any-longer.

Former Mayor Giuliani I've previously researched (learning what/who is a credible site is difficult) to discover that man should have been dis-barred and service prison time. I don't think he would have been a Mayor with that behind him. Now, if you want to know the SCOTUS involved identifying ol Rudy is scum then I may put in the effort to dig-up that info. (specifics)
I do know that if you lie to me once is all it takes for me to not trust you again (you meaning anyone). I'm a bit sick of so many believing lies and clearly unethical people. Those who still support someone (elected or not) when unethical conduct has been proven. I first say they deserve what they get, the problem is I'm getting it also and don't believe I deserve it, good or bad.
I'm old enough to remember a few things the old comments "Only Nixon could go to China", I was disgusted when I discovered North VC withdrew from the bargaining table, then Nixon ordered Hanoi bombed and after a bit of that back to the bargaining table they came. The clear quotes of Nixon via his tapes and clear facts like the Saturday Night Massacre, Nixon no longer deserves to be President. Get ready, polls taken just after Nixon resigned showed he had 25% support. That's people who knew they were lied to but didn't care, they supported Nixon regardless.
Hope I provided an adequate response.
nwtk OK response. There isn't enough paper & p... (show quote)


Having grown up being referred to as "the gimp" by my father I thought Cripple was a soulmate.

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May 27, 2018 16:58:44   #
Cripple
 
"The Gimp" I would say your father would have been best served to pick a better, more flattering name.
Yes, "cripple" came from me. I'm condemned to a wheelchair. Get my medical from the V.A.
Actually, I'm a very loyal friend. Been around the block a couple times and growing everyday. My mind is like I was 21 my body disagrees.
Take Care

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May 27, 2018 19:32:02   #
son of witless
 
byronglimish wrote:
Most of us lose interest in extensive rambling.. I'm saying this to you..


Judging by his next comment I do not think he cared what you or I said. However, in his defense it was shorter.

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May 27, 2018 21:42:37   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Cripple wrote:
"The Gimp" I would say your father would have been best served to pick a better, more flattering name.
Yes, "cripple" came from me. I'm condemned to a wheelchair. Get my medical from the V.A.
Actually, I'm a very loyal friend. Been around the block a couple times and growing everyday. My mind is like I was 21 my body disagrees.
Take Care


I was born with severe scoliosis and required special schools just to walk. that made me useless to my father who wanted his sons to be athletes. Its a long story but I still refer to myself as "the gimp". At 75 the arthritis just makes it worse but so far so good-and I am not dead yet as the song about falling out of a window forty stories up said.
Have a good evening.

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May 27, 2018 22:03:42   #
Nuclearian Loc: I live in a Fascist, Liberal State
 
Cripple wrote:
I just read some survey that 85% of Republicans believe the Mueller investigation into the Russian stuff has been a waist of time with NO indictments. Deceit, where did you hear/read such a lie? 19 criminal indictments (Fact not in dispute but clearly most of those are Russians), 6 U.S. people indictments, 5 of the 6 plead guilty in court (that's criminal conduct), 1 person disputing such a charge (he will be going to court with a judge & jury), 72 criminal charges.

A Lie of Omission is Still a Lie!

Being ignorant of certain Facts is not your fault, if you continue to ignore relevant Facts is your fault, hence you are an unethical person! I'm only concentrating on the top 3 to 5 ideals of what you think Ethics are. No, I stay away from using the word morals since the word morals tends to relate to religion and I would rather avoid such a discussion in this writing. If you want to talk religion leaving the politics out, yes I could do that.
If YOU are a person who continues to support those lying to you then YOU are not an ethical person, you know that. Too many people could not pass a 5th grade science test refusing to accept a relevant fact. Lawyer & former Mayer of New York, is almost everywhere you look being a lawyer fighting in the public opinion arena. What a liar!
Rudy Giuliani is not an ethical person. If you patronize, support, pay attention to any of those lies then you are not an ethical person who also could not pass a 5th grade science test.

Politics, lies everywhere, what are you thinking? I don't blame those elected idiots who lie to you (to me they are just scum), but I do blame YOU for refusing to believe relevant facts disputing what you believe. A fact is not simply a fact because it falls into your belief system.

"Everything you say/do is a direct result of your ethics."

I agree the Media can not be trusted. Yes, you can read volumes of newspapers that omit news so you are not aware of. Hence, I would NOT call whoever calls themselves news, they are entertainment. Those who call themselves news is really no different than an animated show. What kind of unethical idiot are you to keep supporting lies?
Show me a person who says all politicians lie and I'll show you an unethical person (they may be correct but I ask about their vote). How did this politician get in that elected position? You voted them in (what an idiot I call them). Who is your domestic enemy? Those who could vote and decide not to. Those with a different opinion are just fun, makes the world go around.
Show me a person who says you have to violate laws to be President and I'll show you an unethical person!
No I'm not a Hillary supporter, Trump supporter, in-fact I'm a registered Independent. I see unethical slaves running around doing the bidding of their unethical masters. Yes, I'm a rude & crude person but I'm also an ethical person surrounded by unethical people.

"Do you believe in equality?" Who's going to say no? Believe it or not there are people who would say no. We look upon those people as scum and will not do anything to support/encourage such non-belief in equality. If you do anything to support un-equality believers then you are encouraging unethical conduct hence you are an unethical person. Hey, you did it to yourself, the real question is if YOU are going to continue such conduct?
If the major political parties (Republicans & Democrats) saw people doing to them what I did (call someone in your State and switch from Republican to Independent) then you would see a major change in thinking/sound-bites from these people.
"Is a woman a person?" Yes, a little shock-n-awe! Of course a woman is a person! You then believe in equality, in-part so the "in-part" applying to you proves you are an unethical person.
I like to get this stuff off my chest because I once fell into the gullible idiots I mentioned before, Not Any More! I will not allow another "Gulf of Tonkin" to change my thinking. If you don't know what I'm talking about then shame on you! U.S. society did not want another war, so the politicians at the time just "made-it-up" and the media all jumped on it so the attitude across the country changed so the percentages in surveys changed & U.S. people supported a war. So recognizing those who still did not support a war the politicians played-games with the description calling Vietnam a "Police Action", the same as they did with the Korea War, was never a war then or now, rather a "Police Action". So back then the U.S. society believed a lie since the August incidents in the "Gulf of Tonkin" NEVER HAPPENED! So many Americans died like 58,000+ and now nobody seems to care because here they are today believing lies over and over again. The majority still believes in bigotry and all the lies no different than ancient Greece a few hundred years B.C. Look for yourself, unless you're that lazy and like being ignorant!
I stopped the network news some time ago seeing they only think of financial profit, Money. So they make money lying to you, so they lie! These people are paid outrageous amounts of money to keep talking and when you believe the lies you are an unethical as those unethical slaves. These people are not reading news, they are reading a script. Not a Journalist, rather an actor/Host.
I had another incident yesterday afternoon discussing the lies she believed. I get so shocked and mostly disappointed seeing all the proof they are just as stupid (ignorant, dumb, unethical) as those ancient Greeks around 2,500 years ago. Examples all around you.
Nothing is going to change until YOU change. Yes, that might be effort on your part so many won't even try that they would rather remain stupid, dumb, ignorant, really an unethical person. They find it easier to argue in support of lies than put any effort to be an ethical person.
I just read some survey that 85% of Republicans be... (show quote)


If you are a democrap, you are definitely not an ethical person.

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May 28, 2018 07:34:40   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
Cripple wrote:
I just read some survey that 85% of Republicans believe the Mueller investigation into the Russian stuff has been a waist of time with NO indictments. Deceit, where did you hear/read such a lie? 19 criminal indictments (Fact not in dispute but clearly most of those are Russians), 6 U.S. people indictments, 5 of the 6 plead guilty in court (that's criminal conduct), 1 person disputing such a charge (he will be going to court with a judge & jury), 72 criminal charges.

A Lie of Omission is Still a Lie!

Being ignorant of certain Facts is not your fault, if you continue to ignore relevant Facts is your fault, hence you are an unethical person! I'm only concentrating on the top 3 to 5 ideals of what you think Ethics are. No, I stay away from using the word morals since the word morals tends to relate to religion and I would rather avoid such a discussion in this writing. If you want to talk religion leaving the politics out, yes I could do that.
If YOU are a person who continues to support those lying to you then YOU are not an ethical person, you know that. Too many people could not pass a 5th grade science test refusing to accept a relevant fact. Lawyer & former Mayer of New York, is almost everywhere you look being a lawyer fighting in the public opinion arena. What a liar!
Rudy Giuliani is not an ethical person. If you patronize, support, pay attention to any of those lies then you are not an ethical person who also could not pass a 5th grade science test.

Politics, lies everywhere, what are you thinking? I don't blame those elected idiots who lie to you (to me they are just scum), but I do blame YOU for refusing to believe relevant facts disputing what you believe. A fact is not simply a fact because it falls into your belief system.

"Everything you say/do is a direct result of your ethics."

I agree the Media can not be trusted. Yes, you can read volumes of newspapers that omit news so you are not aware of. Hence, I would NOT call whoever calls themselves news, they are entertainment. Those who call themselves news is really no different than an animated show. What kind of unethical idiot are you to keep supporting lies?
Show me a person who says all politicians lie and I'll show you an unethical person (they may be correct but I ask about their vote). How did this politician get in that elected position? You voted them in (what an idiot I call them). Who is your domestic enemy? Those who could vote and decide not to. Those with a different opinion are just fun, makes the world go around.
Show me a person who says you have to violate laws to be President and I'll show you an unethical person!
No I'm not a Hillary supporter, Trump supporter, in-fact I'm a registered Independent. I see unethical slaves running around doing the bidding of their unethical masters. Yes, I'm a rude & crude person but I'm also an ethical person surrounded by unethical people.

"Do you believe in equality?" Who's going to say no? Believe it or not there are people who would say no. We look upon those people as scum and will not do anything to support/encourage such non-belief in equality. If you do anything to support un-equality believers then you are encouraging unethical conduct hence you are an unethical person. Hey, you did it to yourself, the real question is if YOU are going to continue such conduct?
If the major political parties (Republicans & Democrats) saw people doing to them what I did (call someone in your State and switch from Republican to Independent) then you would see a major change in thinking/sound-bites from these people.
"Is a woman a person?" Yes, a little shock-n-awe! Of course a woman is a person! You then believe in equality, in-part so the "in-part" applying to you proves you are an unethical person.
I like to get this stuff off my chest because I once fell into the gullible idiots I mentioned before, Not Any More! I will not allow another "Gulf of Tonkin" to change my thinking. If you don't know what I'm talking about then shame on you! U.S. society did not want another war, so the politicians at the time just "made-it-up" and the media all jumped on it so the attitude across the country changed so the percentages in surveys changed & U.S. people supported a war. So recognizing those who still did not support a war the politicians played-games with the description calling Vietnam a "Police Action", the same as they did with the Korea War, was never a war then or now, rather a "Police Action". So back then the U.S. society believed a lie since the August incidents in the "Gulf of Tonkin" NEVER HAPPENED! So many Americans died like 58,000+ and now nobody seems to care because here they are today believing lies over and over again. The majority still believes in bigotry and all the lies no different than ancient Greece a few hundred years B.C. Look for yourself, unless you're that lazy and like being ignorant!
I stopped the network news some time ago seeing they only think of financial profit, Money. So they make money lying to you, so they lie! These people are paid outrageous amounts of money to keep talking and when you believe the lies you are an unethical as those unethical slaves. These people are not reading news, they are reading a script. Not a Journalist, rather an actor/Host.
I had another incident yesterday afternoon discussing the lies she believed. I get so shocked and mostly disappointed seeing all the proof they are just as stupid (ignorant, dumb, unethical) as those ancient Greeks around 2,500 years ago. Examples all around you.
Nothing is going to change until YOU change. Yes, that might be effort on your part so many won't even try that they would rather remain stupid, dumb, ignorant, really an unethical person. They find it easier to argue in support of lies than put any effort to be an ethical person.
I just read some survey that 85% of Republicans be... (show quote)


I believe if you check a reliable source you will find that starting with the American civil war all the way to the present time EVERY WAR AMERICA has fought including so called police actions were started by the Demon-Rats in office.


Semper Fi brother's and sister's long may old glory fly over you.

God bless, protect and preserve America

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