Secret recording by Spanish police could mean trouble for Donald Trump Jr.
May 26, 2018 18:15:54 #
There are 75+ contacts with Trump people and Russia. How many "coincidences" does it take to finally see purposeful intent. All the liars about Russian contacts so far: Sessions, Trump Jr., Flynn, Manafort, Papadouplolus, Kushner, Gates. Did I miss anyone? As far as the Mueller probe being a with hunt, we have this:
1) George Papadopoulos, former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser, pleaded guilty in October to making false statements to the FBI;
2) Michael Flynn, Trump’s former national security adviser, pleaded guilty in December to making false statements to the FBI.
3) Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chair, was indicted in October in Washington, DC on charges of conspiracy, money laundering, and false statements — all related to his work for Ukrainian politicians before he joined the Trump campaign. He’s pleaded not guilty on all counts. Then, in February, Mueller filed a new case against him in Virginia, with tax, financial, and bank fraud charges.
4) Rick Gates, a former Trump campaign aide and Manafort’s longtime junior business partner, was indicted on similar charges to Manafort. But in February he agreed to a plea deal with Mueller’s team, pleading guilty to just one false statements charge and one conspiracy charge.
5-20) 13 Russian nationals and three Russian companies were indicted on conspiracy charges, with some also being accused of identity theft. The charges related to a Russian propaganda effort designed to interfere with the 2016 campaign. The companies involved are the Internet Research Agency, often described as a “Russian troll farm,” and two other companies that helped finance it. The Russian nationals indicted include 12 of the agency’s employees and its alleged financier, Yevgeny Prigozhin.
21) Richard Pinedo: This California man pleaded guilty to an identity theft charge in connection with the Russian indictments, and has agreed to cooperate with Mueller.
22) Alex van der Zwaan: This London lawyer pleaded guilty to making false statements to the FBI about his contacts with Rick Gates and another unnamed person based in Ukraine.
Now this report about Trump Jr.: from https://thinkprogress.org/secret-recording-by-spanish-police-could-mean-trouble-for-donald-trump-jr-39e6f93b00c8/
Spanish police secretly recorded conversations between Alexander Torshin, an official at Russia’s Central Bank with close ties to the NRA, and Alexander Romanov, a Russian who was convicted of money laundering, Yahoo News reports. The discussions were related to a meeting Torshin had with Donald Trump Jr. at the NRA convention in May 2016.
The tapes were then turned over to the FBI earlier this year. According to José Grinda, a Spanish prosecutor, that could be bad news for Trump Jr. “Mr. Trump’s son should be concerned,” Grinda told Yahoo News.
Torshin’s connections to the NRA — and the potential use of the group by Russia to influence the 2016 election — has drawn considerable interest, including from Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR). McClatchy reported in January that the FBI is investigating whether Torshin “illegally funneled money to the National Rifle Association to help Donald Trump win the presidency.” The NRA spent more than $30 million to boost Trump’s campaign.
Torshin was one of 17 Russians recently sanctioned by the U.S. Treasury Department.
In April, the NRA acknowledged receiving “23 donations from individuals tied to Russia since 2015” but denied receiving any substantial sums. The NRA told Wyden that Torshin only paid his annual dues but said that “[b]ased on Mr. Torshin’s listing as a specially designated national as of April 6, we are currently reviewing our responsibilities with respect to him.”
A report released in May by Dianne Feinstein, the ranking member on the Senate Intelligence Committee, said the committee received “a number of documents that suggest the Kremlin used the National Rifle Association as a means of accessing and assisting Mr. Trump and his campaign.” Feinstein’s report concluded that the “extent of Russia’s use of the NRA as an avenue for connecting with and potentially supporting the Trump campaign needs examination.”
Torshin’s relationship with the NRA began in 2011 when Kline Preston, a lawyer from Nashville, introduced him to David Keene, the NRA’s president at that time. Preston told The Tennessean in March that allegations that Torshin funneled Russian money to the NRA to boost Trump were “probably false.”
Trump Jr. has previously sought to downplay his meeting with Torshin at the NRA convention in 2016.
“Donald J. Trump Jr. was attending an NRA convention and having dinner when an acquaintance asked him to say hello to Torshin and made an introduction. They made small talk for a few minutes and went back to their separate meals. That is the extent of their communication or contact,” Trump Jr’s attorney, Alan Fuertas, told the New York Daily News.
The critical question is whether the secret recordings by the Spanish police, now in the hands of the FBI, tell a different story.
1) George Papadopoulos, former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser, pleaded guilty in October to making false statements to the FBI;
2) Michael Flynn, Trump’s former national security adviser, pleaded guilty in December to making false statements to the FBI.
3) Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chair, was indicted in October in Washington, DC on charges of conspiracy, money laundering, and false statements — all related to his work for Ukrainian politicians before he joined the Trump campaign. He’s pleaded not guilty on all counts. Then, in February, Mueller filed a new case against him in Virginia, with tax, financial, and bank fraud charges.
4) Rick Gates, a former Trump campaign aide and Manafort’s longtime junior business partner, was indicted on similar charges to Manafort. But in February he agreed to a plea deal with Mueller’s team, pleading guilty to just one false statements charge and one conspiracy charge.
5-20) 13 Russian nationals and three Russian companies were indicted on conspiracy charges, with some also being accused of identity theft. The charges related to a Russian propaganda effort designed to interfere with the 2016 campaign. The companies involved are the Internet Research Agency, often described as a “Russian troll farm,” and two other companies that helped finance it. The Russian nationals indicted include 12 of the agency’s employees and its alleged financier, Yevgeny Prigozhin.
21) Richard Pinedo: This California man pleaded guilty to an identity theft charge in connection with the Russian indictments, and has agreed to cooperate with Mueller.
22) Alex van der Zwaan: This London lawyer pleaded guilty to making false statements to the FBI about his contacts with Rick Gates and another unnamed person based in Ukraine.
Now this report about Trump Jr.: from https://thinkprogress.org/secret-recording-by-spanish-police-could-mean-trouble-for-donald-trump-jr-39e6f93b00c8/
Spanish police secretly recorded conversations between Alexander Torshin, an official at Russia’s Central Bank with close ties to the NRA, and Alexander Romanov, a Russian who was convicted of money laundering, Yahoo News reports. The discussions were related to a meeting Torshin had with Donald Trump Jr. at the NRA convention in May 2016.
The tapes were then turned over to the FBI earlier this year. According to José Grinda, a Spanish prosecutor, that could be bad news for Trump Jr. “Mr. Trump’s son should be concerned,” Grinda told Yahoo News.
Torshin’s connections to the NRA — and the potential use of the group by Russia to influence the 2016 election — has drawn considerable interest, including from Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR). McClatchy reported in January that the FBI is investigating whether Torshin “illegally funneled money to the National Rifle Association to help Donald Trump win the presidency.” The NRA spent more than $30 million to boost Trump’s campaign.
Torshin was one of 17 Russians recently sanctioned by the U.S. Treasury Department.
In April, the NRA acknowledged receiving “23 donations from individuals tied to Russia since 2015” but denied receiving any substantial sums. The NRA told Wyden that Torshin only paid his annual dues but said that “[b]ased on Mr. Torshin’s listing as a specially designated national as of April 6, we are currently reviewing our responsibilities with respect to him.”
A report released in May by Dianne Feinstein, the ranking member on the Senate Intelligence Committee, said the committee received “a number of documents that suggest the Kremlin used the National Rifle Association as a means of accessing and assisting Mr. Trump and his campaign.” Feinstein’s report concluded that the “extent of Russia’s use of the NRA as an avenue for connecting with and potentially supporting the Trump campaign needs examination.”
Torshin’s relationship with the NRA began in 2011 when Kline Preston, a lawyer from Nashville, introduced him to David Keene, the NRA’s president at that time. Preston told The Tennessean in March that allegations that Torshin funneled Russian money to the NRA to boost Trump were “probably false.”
Trump Jr. has previously sought to downplay his meeting with Torshin at the NRA convention in 2016.
“Donald J. Trump Jr. was attending an NRA convention and having dinner when an acquaintance asked him to say hello to Torshin and made an introduction. They made small talk for a few minutes and went back to their separate meals. That is the extent of their communication or contact,” Trump Jr’s attorney, Alan Fuertas, told the New York Daily News.
The critical question is whether the secret recordings by the Spanish police, now in the hands of the FBI, tell a different story.
May 26, 2018 18:31:51 #
[quote=rumitoid]There are 75+ contacts with Trump people and Russia. How many "coincidences" does it take to finally see purposeful intent. All the liars about Russian contacts so far: Sessions, Trump Jr., Flynn, Manafort, Papadouplolus, Kushner, Gates. Did I miss anyone? As far as the Mueller probe being a with hunt, we have this:
1) George Papadopoulos, former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser, pleaded guilty in October to making false statements to the FBI;
2) Michael Flynn, Trump’s former national security adviser, pleaded guilty in December to making false statements to the FBI.
3) Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chair, was indicted in October in Washington, DC on charges of conspiracy, money laundering, and false statements — all related to his work for Ukrainian politicians before he joined the Trump campaign. He’s pleaded not guilty on all counts. Then, in February, Mueller filed a new case against him in Virginia, with tax, financial, and bank fraud charges.
4) Rick Gates, a former Trump campaign aide and Manafort’s longtime junior business partner, was indicted on similar charges to Manafort. But in February he agreed to a plea deal with Mueller’s team, pleading guilty to just one false statements charge and one conspiracy charge.
5-20) 13 Russian nationals and three Russian companies were indicted on conspiracy charges, with some also being accused of identity theft. The charges related to a Russian propaganda effort designed to interfere with the 2016 campaign. The companies involved are the Internet Research Agency, often described as a “Russian troll farm,” and two other companies that helped finance it. The Russian nationals indicted include 12 of the agency’s employees and its alleged financier, Yevgeny Prigozhin.
21) Richard Pinedo: This California man pleaded guilty to an identity theft charge in connection with the Russian indictments, and has agreed to cooperate with Mueller.
22) Alex van der Zwaan: This London lawyer pleaded guilty to making false statements to the FBI about his contacts with Rick Gates and another unnamed person based in Ukraine.
Now this report about Trump Jr.: from https://thinkprogress.org/secret-recording-by-spanish-police-could-mean-trouble-for-donald-trump-jr-39e6f93b00c8/
Spanish police secretly recorded conversations between Alexander Torshin, an official at Russia’s Central Bank with close ties to the NRA, and Alexander Romanov, a Russian who was convicted of money laundering, Yahoo News reports. The discussions were related to a meeting Torshin had with Donald Trump Jr. at the NRA convention in May 2016.
The tapes were then turned over to the FBI earlier this year. According to José Grinda, a Spanish prosecutor, that could be bad news for Trump Jr. “Mr. Trump’s son should be concerned,” Grinda told Yahoo News.
Torshin’s connections to the NRA — and the potential use of the group by Russia to influence the 2016 election — has drawn considerable interest, including from Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR). McClatchy reported in January that the FBI is investigating whether Torshin “illegally funneled money to the National Rifle Association to help Donald Trump win the presidency.” The NRA spent more than $30 million to boost Trump’s campaign.
Torshin was one of 17 Russians recently sanctioned by the U.S. Treasury Department.
In April, the NRA acknowledged receiving “23 donations from individuals tied to Russia since 2015” but denied receiving any substantial sums. The NRA told Wyden that Torshin only paid his annual dues but said that “[b]ased on Mr. Torshin’s listing as a specially designated national as of April 6, we are currently reviewing our responsibilities with respect to him.”
A report released in May by Dianne Feinstein, the ranking member on the Senate Intelligence Committee, said the committee received “a number of documents that suggest the Kremlin used the National Rifle Association as a means of accessing and assisting Mr. Trump and his campaign.” Feinstein’s report concluded that the “extent of Russia’s use of the NRA as an avenue for connecting with and potentially supporting the Trump campaign needs examination.”
Torshin’s relationship with the NRA began in 2011 when Kline Preston, a lawyer from Nashville, introduced him to David Keene, the NRA’s president at that time. Preston told The Tennessean in March that allegations that Torshin funneled Russian money to the NRA to boost Trump were “probably false.”
Trump Jr. has previously sought to downplay his meeting with Torshin at the NRA convention in 2016.
“Donald J. Trump Jr. was attending an NRA convention and having dinner when an acquaintance asked him to say hello to Torshin and made an introduction. They made small talk for a few minutes and went back to their separate meals. That is the extent of their communication or contact,” Trump Jr’s attorney, Alan Fuertas, told the New York Daily News.
The critical question is whether the secret recordings by the Spanish police, now in the hands of the FBI, tell a different story.[/quote]
Do you believe anything that comes from the FBI and as far as Spain is concerned, they are all bowing to the East by now. Would you believe anything that came from that ilk?
1) George Papadopoulos, former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser, pleaded guilty in October to making false statements to the FBI;
2) Michael Flynn, Trump’s former national security adviser, pleaded guilty in December to making false statements to the FBI.
3) Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chair, was indicted in October in Washington, DC on charges of conspiracy, money laundering, and false statements — all related to his work for Ukrainian politicians before he joined the Trump campaign. He’s pleaded not guilty on all counts. Then, in February, Mueller filed a new case against him in Virginia, with tax, financial, and bank fraud charges.
4) Rick Gates, a former Trump campaign aide and Manafort’s longtime junior business partner, was indicted on similar charges to Manafort. But in February he agreed to a plea deal with Mueller’s team, pleading guilty to just one false statements charge and one conspiracy charge.
5-20) 13 Russian nationals and three Russian companies were indicted on conspiracy charges, with some also being accused of identity theft. The charges related to a Russian propaganda effort designed to interfere with the 2016 campaign. The companies involved are the Internet Research Agency, often described as a “Russian troll farm,” and two other companies that helped finance it. The Russian nationals indicted include 12 of the agency’s employees and its alleged financier, Yevgeny Prigozhin.
21) Richard Pinedo: This California man pleaded guilty to an identity theft charge in connection with the Russian indictments, and has agreed to cooperate with Mueller.
22) Alex van der Zwaan: This London lawyer pleaded guilty to making false statements to the FBI about his contacts with Rick Gates and another unnamed person based in Ukraine.
Now this report about Trump Jr.: from https://thinkprogress.org/secret-recording-by-spanish-police-could-mean-trouble-for-donald-trump-jr-39e6f93b00c8/
Spanish police secretly recorded conversations between Alexander Torshin, an official at Russia’s Central Bank with close ties to the NRA, and Alexander Romanov, a Russian who was convicted of money laundering, Yahoo News reports. The discussions were related to a meeting Torshin had with Donald Trump Jr. at the NRA convention in May 2016.
The tapes were then turned over to the FBI earlier this year. According to José Grinda, a Spanish prosecutor, that could be bad news for Trump Jr. “Mr. Trump’s son should be concerned,” Grinda told Yahoo News.
Torshin’s connections to the NRA — and the potential use of the group by Russia to influence the 2016 election — has drawn considerable interest, including from Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR). McClatchy reported in January that the FBI is investigating whether Torshin “illegally funneled money to the National Rifle Association to help Donald Trump win the presidency.” The NRA spent more than $30 million to boost Trump’s campaign.
Torshin was one of 17 Russians recently sanctioned by the U.S. Treasury Department.
In April, the NRA acknowledged receiving “23 donations from individuals tied to Russia since 2015” but denied receiving any substantial sums. The NRA told Wyden that Torshin only paid his annual dues but said that “[b]ased on Mr. Torshin’s listing as a specially designated national as of April 6, we are currently reviewing our responsibilities with respect to him.”
A report released in May by Dianne Feinstein, the ranking member on the Senate Intelligence Committee, said the committee received “a number of documents that suggest the Kremlin used the National Rifle Association as a means of accessing and assisting Mr. Trump and his campaign.” Feinstein’s report concluded that the “extent of Russia’s use of the NRA as an avenue for connecting with and potentially supporting the Trump campaign needs examination.”
Torshin’s relationship with the NRA began in 2011 when Kline Preston, a lawyer from Nashville, introduced him to David Keene, the NRA’s president at that time. Preston told The Tennessean in March that allegations that Torshin funneled Russian money to the NRA to boost Trump were “probably false.”
Trump Jr. has previously sought to downplay his meeting with Torshin at the NRA convention in 2016.
“Donald J. Trump Jr. was attending an NRA convention and having dinner when an acquaintance asked him to say hello to Torshin and made an introduction. They made small talk for a few minutes and went back to their separate meals. That is the extent of their communication or contact,” Trump Jr’s attorney, Alan Fuertas, told the New York Daily News.
The critical question is whether the secret recordings by the Spanish police, now in the hands of the FBI, tell a different story.[/quote]
Do you believe anything that comes from the FBI and as far as Spain is concerned, they are all bowing to the East by now. Would you believe anything that came from that ilk?
May 26, 2018 18:49:35 #
In further developments a fat old man has moved next door to me and asked if I had ever had a Moscow Mule, or a blini, or Beluga Caviar. I said not that I remember, but I would like to try those things one day.
Yesterday I got a subpoena from Mueller's hit squad.
Yesterday I got a subpoena from Mueller's hit squad.
May 26, 2018 18:51:22 #
Mikeyavelli wrote:
In further developments a fat old man has moved next door to me and asked if I had ever had a Moscow Mule, or a blini, or Beluga Caviar. I said not that I remember, but I would like to try those things one day.
Yesterday I got a subpoena from Mueller's hit squad.
Yesterday I got a subpoena from Mueller's hit squad.
Loved it!
May 26, 2018 18:51:56 #
rumitoid wrote:
There are 75+ contacts with Trump people and Russi... (show quote)
Rumi...the world Establishment wants Trump gone. We don't give a fk what the Spanish "police" say.
May 26, 2018 18:55:36 #
May 26, 2018 19:00:31 #
bahmer wrote:
That's about it too.
All bullmueller.
Propping up hilliar's lie about russian interference in her historic histrionic loss to Trump.
They made up that russian collusion crap at 10 pm election night.
All bullmueller.
May 26, 2018 20:01:40 #
Mikeyavelli wrote:
In further developments a fat old man has moved next door to me and asked if I had ever had a Moscow Mule, or a blini, or Beluga Caviar. I said not that I remember, but I would like to try those things one day.
Yesterday I got a subpoena from Mueller's hit squad.
Yesterday I got a subpoena from Mueller's hit squad.
Nice. Very Funny.
May 26, 2018 22:20:25 #
May 26, 2018 23:06:20 #
May 27, 2018 07:07:54 #
[quote=rumitoid]There are 75+ contacts with Trump people and Russia. How many "coincidences" does it take to finally see purposeful intent. All the liars about Russian contacts so far: Sessions, Trump Jr., Flynn, Manafort, Papadouplolus, Kushner, Gates. Did I miss anyone? As far as the Mueller probe being a with hunt, we have this:
1) George Papadopoulos, former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser, pleaded guilty in October to making false statements to the FBI;
2) Michael Flynn, Trump’s former national security adviser, pleaded guilty in December to making false statements to the FBI.
3) Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chair, was indicted in October in Washington, DC on charges of conspiracy, money laundering, and false statements — all related to his work for Ukrainian politicians before he joined the Trump campaign. He’s pleaded not guilty on all counts. Then, in February, Mueller filed a new case against him in Virginia, with tax, financial, and bank fraud charges.
4) Rick Gates, a former Trump campaign aide and Manafort’s longtime junior business partner, was indicted on similar charges to Manafort. But in February he agreed to a plea deal with Mueller’s team, pleading guilty to just one false statements charge and one conspiracy charge.
5-20) 13 Russian nationals and three Russian companies were indicted on conspiracy charges, with some also being accused of identity theft. The charges related to a Russian propaganda effort designed to interfere with the 2016 campaign. The companies involved are the Internet Research Agency, often described as a “Russian troll farm,” and two other companies that helped finance it. The Russian nationals indicted include 12 of the agency’s employees and its alleged financier, Yevgeny Prigozhin.
21) Richard Pinedo: This California man pleaded guilty to an identity theft charge in connection with the Russian indictments, and has agreed to cooperate with Mueller.
22) Alex van der Zwaan: This London lawyer pleaded guilty to making false statements to the FBI about his contacts with Rick Gates and another unnamed person based in Ukraine.
Now this report about Trump Jr.: from https://thinkprogress.org/secret-recording-by-spanish-police-could-mean-trouble-for-donald-trump-jr-39e6f93b00c8/
Spanish police secretly recorded conversations between Alexander Torshin, an official at Russia’s Central Bank with close ties to the NRA, and Alexander Romanov, a Russian who was convicted of money laundering, Yahoo News reports. The discussions were related to a meeting Torshin had with Donald Trump Jr. at the NRA convention in May 2016.
The tapes were then turned over to the FBI earlier this year. According to José Grinda, a Spanish prosecutor, that could be bad news for Trump Jr. “Mr. Trump’s son should be concerned,” Grinda told Yahoo News.
Torshin’s connections to the NRA — and the potential use of the group by Russia to influence the 2016 election — has drawn considerable interest, including from Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR). McClatchy reported in January that the FBI is investigating whether Torshin “illegally funneled money to the National Rifle Association to help Donald Trump win the presidency.” The NRA spent more than $30 million to boost Trump’s campaign.
Torshin was one of 17 Russians recently sanctioned by the U.S. Treasury Department.
In April, the NRA acknowledged receiving “23 donations from individuals tied to Russia since 2015” but denied receiving any substantial sums. The NRA told Wyden that Torshin only paid his annual dues but said that “[b]ased on Mr. Torshin’s listing as a specially designated national as of April 6, we are currently reviewing our responsibilities with respect to him.”
A report released in May by Dianne Feinstein, the ranking member on the Senate Intelligence Committee, said the committee received “a number of documents that suggest the Kremlin used the National Rifle Association as a means of accessing and assisting Mr. Trump and his campaign.” Feinstein’s report concluded that the “extent of Russia’s use of the NRA as an avenue for connecting with and potentially supporting the Trump campaign needs examination.”
Torshin’s relationship with the NRA began in 2011 when Kline Preston, a lawyer from Nashville, introduced him to David Keene, the NRA’s president at that time. Preston told The Tennessean in March that allegations that Torshin funneled Russian money to the NRA to boost Trump were “probably false.”
Trump Jr. has previously sought to downplay his meeting with Torshin at the NRA convention in 2016.
“Donald J. Trump Jr. was attending an NRA convention and having dinner when an acquaintance asked him to say hello to Torshin and made an introduction. They made small talk for a few minutes and went back to their separate meals. That is the extent of their communication or contact,” Trump Jr’s attorney, Alan Fuertas, told the New York Daily News.
The critical question is whether the secret recordings by the Spanish police, now in the hands of the FBI, tell a different story.[/quote]
I have a secret recording of mueller, comey, ovommit and hitlary which I have locked up in a huge safe in my house. Is is under 24 hour surveillance and I will expose these bas-ards when the timing is right. It proves, beyond a shadow of a doubt that Trump is innocent and Ovommit, hitlary and their cronies are completely guilty.
1) George Papadopoulos, former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser, pleaded guilty in October to making false statements to the FBI;
2) Michael Flynn, Trump’s former national security adviser, pleaded guilty in December to making false statements to the FBI.
3) Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chair, was indicted in October in Washington, DC on charges of conspiracy, money laundering, and false statements — all related to his work for Ukrainian politicians before he joined the Trump campaign. He’s pleaded not guilty on all counts. Then, in February, Mueller filed a new case against him in Virginia, with tax, financial, and bank fraud charges.
4) Rick Gates, a former Trump campaign aide and Manafort’s longtime junior business partner, was indicted on similar charges to Manafort. But in February he agreed to a plea deal with Mueller’s team, pleading guilty to just one false statements charge and one conspiracy charge.
5-20) 13 Russian nationals and three Russian companies were indicted on conspiracy charges, with some also being accused of identity theft. The charges related to a Russian propaganda effort designed to interfere with the 2016 campaign. The companies involved are the Internet Research Agency, often described as a “Russian troll farm,” and two other companies that helped finance it. The Russian nationals indicted include 12 of the agency’s employees and its alleged financier, Yevgeny Prigozhin.
21) Richard Pinedo: This California man pleaded guilty to an identity theft charge in connection with the Russian indictments, and has agreed to cooperate with Mueller.
22) Alex van der Zwaan: This London lawyer pleaded guilty to making false statements to the FBI about his contacts with Rick Gates and another unnamed person based in Ukraine.
Now this report about Trump Jr.: from https://thinkprogress.org/secret-recording-by-spanish-police-could-mean-trouble-for-donald-trump-jr-39e6f93b00c8/
Spanish police secretly recorded conversations between Alexander Torshin, an official at Russia’s Central Bank with close ties to the NRA, and Alexander Romanov, a Russian who was convicted of money laundering, Yahoo News reports. The discussions were related to a meeting Torshin had with Donald Trump Jr. at the NRA convention in May 2016.
The tapes were then turned over to the FBI earlier this year. According to José Grinda, a Spanish prosecutor, that could be bad news for Trump Jr. “Mr. Trump’s son should be concerned,” Grinda told Yahoo News.
Torshin’s connections to the NRA — and the potential use of the group by Russia to influence the 2016 election — has drawn considerable interest, including from Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR). McClatchy reported in January that the FBI is investigating whether Torshin “illegally funneled money to the National Rifle Association to help Donald Trump win the presidency.” The NRA spent more than $30 million to boost Trump’s campaign.
Torshin was one of 17 Russians recently sanctioned by the U.S. Treasury Department.
In April, the NRA acknowledged receiving “23 donations from individuals tied to Russia since 2015” but denied receiving any substantial sums. The NRA told Wyden that Torshin only paid his annual dues but said that “[b]ased on Mr. Torshin’s listing as a specially designated national as of April 6, we are currently reviewing our responsibilities with respect to him.”
A report released in May by Dianne Feinstein, the ranking member on the Senate Intelligence Committee, said the committee received “a number of documents that suggest the Kremlin used the National Rifle Association as a means of accessing and assisting Mr. Trump and his campaign.” Feinstein’s report concluded that the “extent of Russia’s use of the NRA as an avenue for connecting with and potentially supporting the Trump campaign needs examination.”
Torshin’s relationship with the NRA began in 2011 when Kline Preston, a lawyer from Nashville, introduced him to David Keene, the NRA’s president at that time. Preston told The Tennessean in March that allegations that Torshin funneled Russian money to the NRA to boost Trump were “probably false.”
Trump Jr. has previously sought to downplay his meeting with Torshin at the NRA convention in 2016.
“Donald J. Trump Jr. was attending an NRA convention and having dinner when an acquaintance asked him to say hello to Torshin and made an introduction. They made small talk for a few minutes and went back to their separate meals. That is the extent of their communication or contact,” Trump Jr’s attorney, Alan Fuertas, told the New York Daily News.
The critical question is whether the secret recordings by the Spanish police, now in the hands of the FBI, tell a different story.[/quote]
I have a secret recording of mueller, comey, ovommit and hitlary which I have locked up in a huge safe in my house. Is is under 24 hour surveillance and I will expose these bas-ards when the timing is right. It proves, beyond a shadow of a doubt that Trump is innocent and Ovommit, hitlary and their cronies are completely guilty.
May 27, 2018 11:03:52 #
rumitoid wrote:
There are 75+ contacts with Trump people and Russi... (show quote)
Bwhahahaa...
These are actually funny...lets take a look at these things..
Van der Zwaan was charged by Mueller’s team with making false statements to investigators in an interview about his time working for a law firm hired by the Ukraine Ministry of Justice in 2012, when he helped produce a report on the trail of Ukrainian politician Yulia Tymoshenko.
Mr. van der Zwaan’s lies involved a 2012 report prepared by Skadden and used to defend Mr. Yanukovych, then the Russia-aligned president of Ukraine, from international criticism over the prosecution and incarceration of one of his political rivals, former Prime Minister Yulia V. Tymoshenko. State Department officials criticized the report, which purported to be the result of the law firm’s independent research, as a misleading account of the actions of Mr. Yanukovych’s government." So nothing to do with OUR 2016 Presidential Election..(this was a case from 2012 that a judge dismissed due to lack of evidence)
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/20/us/politics/alex-van-der-zwaan-gates-russia-mueller.html
"Richard Pinedo, of Santa Paula, ran an online service called Auction Essistance, through which he bought and sold bank account numbers that would help users circumvent security measures of digital payment companies. Pinedo transferred, possessed and used the identities of other people in connection with unlawful activity, according to a statement of the offense. He pleaded guilty on February 12, according to court documents."
Doesn't appear to be associated with the Trump campaign at all...just a crime that was found during the course of the investigation..
http://www.businessinsider.com/richard-pinedo-pleaded-guilty-to-aiding-russia-is-cooperating-with-mueller-2018-2
"After another revolution in Ukraine forced Yanukovych from power in 2014, the national anti-corruption bureau discovered a secret ledger of off-the-books payments from the Party of Regions; Manafort’s name appears in the document 22 times, with payments worth $12.7 million designated for him between 2007 and 2012. The indictment released on Monday in the U.S. claims Manafort and an associate laundered the proceeds of his work in Ukraine through offshore accounts, and failed to pay U.S. taxes on the income." (gee, again nothing to do w/ The 2016 US Elections) http://time.com/5003623/paul-manafort-mueller-indictment-ukraine-russia/
Then of course there is this..where even Lindsey Graham's campaign had ties to these same individuals (Manafort and Gates)
This right here is what it all boils down too:
"In Ukraine, Ferry was part of a Davis Manafort team that advised Yanukovich, the country’s then-prime minister, whose pro-Russian party made gains in the 2006 parliamentary elections. So Ferry was lobbying for the guy the American government opposed." But even this goes back to 2006--years before OUR 2016 election..So I'm curious, are they really looking at Russian interference in OUR election or Russian interference in Ukraine's election?? And the imprisonment of a former Ukrainian President??? (which our government was asked to investigate years ago)
Manafort's indictment ***doesn't include*** explicit mention of Russian collusion or his time on the Trump campaign but **rather focuses on his Ukrainian political ties and finances.*** So again, NOTHING to do w/ the election in 2016. http://www.newsweek.com/paul-manafort-indictment-timeline-russia-probe-charges-696226
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/1/7/1730532/-Why-Has-Lindsey-Graham-Changed-His-Campaign-Manager-s-Connection-To-Paul-Manafort
May 27, 2018 11:51:03 #
Mueller is responsible for creating the biggest crime wave in Washington history, even though they never occurred.
May 27, 2018 11:57:01 #
nwtk2007
Loc: Texas
[quote=rumitoid]There are 75+ contacts with Trump people and Russia. How many "coincidences" does it take to finally see purposeful intent. All the liars about Russian contacts so far: Sessions, Trump Jr., Flynn, Manafort, Papadouplolus, Kushner, Gates. Did I miss anyone? As far as the Mueller probe being a with hunt, we have this:
1) George Papadopoulos, former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser, pleaded guilty in October to making false statements to the FBI;
2) Michael Flynn, Trump’s former national security adviser, pleaded guilty in December to making false statements to the FBI.
3) Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chair, was indicted in October in Washington, DC on charges of conspiracy, money laundering, and false statements — all related to his work for Ukrainian politicians before he joined the Trump campaign. He’s pleaded not guilty on all counts. Then, in February, Mueller filed a new case against him in Virginia, with tax, financial, and bank fraud charges.
4) Rick Gates, a former Trump campaign aide and Manafort’s longtime junior business partner, was indicted on similar charges to Manafort. But in February he agreed to a plea deal with Mueller’s team, pleading guilty to just one false statements charge and one conspiracy charge.
5-20) 13 Russian nationals and three Russian companies were indicted on conspiracy charges, with some also being accused of identity theft. The charges related to a Russian propaganda effort designed to interfere with the 2016 campaign. The companies involved are the Internet Research Agency, often described as a “Russian troll farm,” and two other companies that helped finance it. The Russian nationals indicted include 12 of the agency’s employees and its alleged financier, Yevgeny Prigozhin.
21) Richard Pinedo: This California man pleaded guilty to an identity theft charge in connection with the Russian indictments, and has agreed to cooperate with Mueller.
22) Alex van der Zwaan: This London lawyer pleaded guilty to making false statements to the FBI about his contacts with Rick Gates and another unnamed person based in Ukraine.
Now this report about Trump Jr.: from https://thinkprogress.org/secret-recording-by-spanish-police-could-mean-trouble-for-donald-trump-jr-39e6f93b00c8/
Spanish police secretly recorded conversations between Alexander Torshin, an official at Russia’s Central Bank with close ties to the NRA, and Alexander Romanov, a Russian who was convicted of money laundering, Yahoo News reports. The discussions were related to a meeting Torshin had with Donald Trump Jr. at the NRA convention in May 2016.
The tapes were then turned over to the FBI earlier this year. According to José Grinda, a Spanish prosecutor, that could be bad news for Trump Jr. “Mr. Trump’s son should be concerned,” Grinda told Yahoo News.
Torshin’s connections to the NRA — and the potential use of the group by Russia to influence the 2016 election — has drawn considerable interest, including from Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR). McClatchy reported in January that the FBI is investigating whether Torshin “illegally funneled money to the National Rifle Association to help Donald Trump win the presidency.” The NRA spent more than $30 million to boost Trump’s campaign.
Torshin was one of 17 Russians recently sanctioned by the U.S. Treasury Department.
In April, the NRA acknowledged receiving “23 donations from individuals tied to Russia since 2015” but denied receiving any substantial sums. The NRA told Wyden that Torshin only paid his annual dues but said that “[b]ased on Mr. Torshin’s listing as a specially designated national as of April 6, we are currently reviewing our responsibilities with respect to him.”
A report released in May by Dianne Feinstein, the ranking member on the Senate Intelligence Committee, said the committee received “a number of documents that suggest the Kremlin used the National Rifle Association as a means of accessing and assisting Mr. Trump and his campaign.” Feinstein’s report concluded that the “extent of Russia’s use of the NRA as an avenue for connecting with and potentially supporting the Trump campaign needs examination.”
Torshin’s relationship with the NRA began in 2011 when Kline Preston, a lawyer from Nashville, introduced him to David Keene, the NRA’s president at that time. Preston told The Tennessean in March that allegations that Torshin funneled Russian money to the NRA to boost Trump were “probably false.”
Trump Jr. has previously sought to downplay his meeting with Torshin at the NRA convention in 2016.
“Donald J. Trump Jr. was attending an NRA convention and having dinner when an acquaintance asked him to say hello to Torshin and made an introduction. They made small talk for a few minutes and went back to their separate meals. That is the extent of their communication or contact,” Trump Jr’s attorney, Alan Fuertas, told the New York Daily News.
The critical question is whether the secret recordings by the Spanish police, now in the hands of the FBI, tell a different story.[/quote]
I personally don't give a rats about junior or all the other's who might have had "conversations" with some Ruskies from time to time. Big deal. They ain't Trump.
1) George Papadopoulos, former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser, pleaded guilty in October to making false statements to the FBI;
2) Michael Flynn, Trump’s former national security adviser, pleaded guilty in December to making false statements to the FBI.
3) Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chair, was indicted in October in Washington, DC on charges of conspiracy, money laundering, and false statements — all related to his work for Ukrainian politicians before he joined the Trump campaign. He’s pleaded not guilty on all counts. Then, in February, Mueller filed a new case against him in Virginia, with tax, financial, and bank fraud charges.
4) Rick Gates, a former Trump campaign aide and Manafort’s longtime junior business partner, was indicted on similar charges to Manafort. But in February he agreed to a plea deal with Mueller’s team, pleading guilty to just one false statements charge and one conspiracy charge.
5-20) 13 Russian nationals and three Russian companies were indicted on conspiracy charges, with some also being accused of identity theft. The charges related to a Russian propaganda effort designed to interfere with the 2016 campaign. The companies involved are the Internet Research Agency, often described as a “Russian troll farm,” and two other companies that helped finance it. The Russian nationals indicted include 12 of the agency’s employees and its alleged financier, Yevgeny Prigozhin.
21) Richard Pinedo: This California man pleaded guilty to an identity theft charge in connection with the Russian indictments, and has agreed to cooperate with Mueller.
22) Alex van der Zwaan: This London lawyer pleaded guilty to making false statements to the FBI about his contacts with Rick Gates and another unnamed person based in Ukraine.
Now this report about Trump Jr.: from https://thinkprogress.org/secret-recording-by-spanish-police-could-mean-trouble-for-donald-trump-jr-39e6f93b00c8/
Spanish police secretly recorded conversations between Alexander Torshin, an official at Russia’s Central Bank with close ties to the NRA, and Alexander Romanov, a Russian who was convicted of money laundering, Yahoo News reports. The discussions were related to a meeting Torshin had with Donald Trump Jr. at the NRA convention in May 2016.
The tapes were then turned over to the FBI earlier this year. According to José Grinda, a Spanish prosecutor, that could be bad news for Trump Jr. “Mr. Trump’s son should be concerned,” Grinda told Yahoo News.
Torshin’s connections to the NRA — and the potential use of the group by Russia to influence the 2016 election — has drawn considerable interest, including from Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR). McClatchy reported in January that the FBI is investigating whether Torshin “illegally funneled money to the National Rifle Association to help Donald Trump win the presidency.” The NRA spent more than $30 million to boost Trump’s campaign.
Torshin was one of 17 Russians recently sanctioned by the U.S. Treasury Department.
In April, the NRA acknowledged receiving “23 donations from individuals tied to Russia since 2015” but denied receiving any substantial sums. The NRA told Wyden that Torshin only paid his annual dues but said that “[b]ased on Mr. Torshin’s listing as a specially designated national as of April 6, we are currently reviewing our responsibilities with respect to him.”
A report released in May by Dianne Feinstein, the ranking member on the Senate Intelligence Committee, said the committee received “a number of documents that suggest the Kremlin used the National Rifle Association as a means of accessing and assisting Mr. Trump and his campaign.” Feinstein’s report concluded that the “extent of Russia’s use of the NRA as an avenue for connecting with and potentially supporting the Trump campaign needs examination.”
Torshin’s relationship with the NRA began in 2011 when Kline Preston, a lawyer from Nashville, introduced him to David Keene, the NRA’s president at that time. Preston told The Tennessean in March that allegations that Torshin funneled Russian money to the NRA to boost Trump were “probably false.”
Trump Jr. has previously sought to downplay his meeting with Torshin at the NRA convention in 2016.
“Donald J. Trump Jr. was attending an NRA convention and having dinner when an acquaintance asked him to say hello to Torshin and made an introduction. They made small talk for a few minutes and went back to their separate meals. That is the extent of their communication or contact,” Trump Jr’s attorney, Alan Fuertas, told the New York Daily News.
The critical question is whether the secret recordings by the Spanish police, now in the hands of the FBI, tell a different story.[/quote]
I personally don't give a rats about junior or all the other's who might have had "conversations" with some Ruskies from time to time. Big deal. They ain't Trump.
May 27, 2018 13:08:18 #
...and after all that rant and waste of cyber space ain't none of what you professed is a liability for Trump or for any of those accused by mueller.
All bullmueller.
All bullmueller.
If you want to reply, then register here. Registration is free and your account is created instantly, so you can post right away.