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May 15, 2018 12:45:14   #
Alicia Loc: NYC
 
straightUp wrote:
I gave you a nutshell definition. You said that wasn't a genuine definition... I said I don't see YOU providing one and you respond with how easy it would be for me to find out what it means if I was honest. So... you STILL can't explain what Zionism is. And I know why... Because you looked it up after getting all pissed off at me and you found out I was right. So now all you can do is throw insults and you can't even do that right because you're using terms that again, you don't understand.

Standing up for the Palestinians is NOT anti-Semitic because the Palestinians ARE Semitic. This might be hard for a half-wit to understand but Semitic doesn't mean Jewish.

BTW, A LOT of Jews, including some of my extended family who have lived in Israel are with me on this.
I gave you a nutshell definition. You said that wa... (show quote)

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I agree in most part.

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May 15, 2018 12:46:53   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
Ole Blade has surrendered. LOL. I knew he'd fold. He's no match for one with your intellect, StraightUp. I almost feel sympathy for him. LOL.

You know it's over when insults become their main argument. ;)

I stop short of sympathy for him too. It's one thing to be ignorant by chance, quite another to be willfully ignorant in order the preserve one's prejudice, especially when that prejudice supports the oppression and killing of people for unjust reasons.

Year after year, decade after decade, I've watched opponents to Israel's policies emphasize exactly what they are opposing, not the state of Israel, not the Jewish people, but the Zionist policies. Year after year, decade after decade I watch people like Blade insisting that the opponents are "anti-Israel" and "anti-Jewish" (or because they think it sounds more intellectual and don't actually understand the term, they say "anti-Semitic").

If after 70 years they STILL haven't learned what the opponents are saying, or at least what the term Zionism means, it's hard to believe it's a matter of education.

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May 15, 2018 12:59:19   #
donald41 Loc: puyallup Wa
 
straightUp wrote:
And the death toll continues to climb as thousands of unarmed protesters in Gaza, the largest concentration camp in the world, stood along the fence to protest the opening of the U.S. Embassy in Jerusalem. Men, women and children just standing along the fence in a gesture of solidarity and guess what the Israeli troops do? They fire into the crowd with live rounds. Cold blooded murder.

Meanwhile, the world checks in with their condemnation of Israel starting with the Jews themselves. About a dozen members of an ultra-orthodox anti-Israeli group joined the protest outside the embassy. They held signs that read "Jews worldwide condemn Israeli bloody brutality" and "Authentic Jewry never recognized the State of Israel."

Meanwhile at the UN, 128 countries defied President Donald Trump and voted in favor of a United Nations General Assembly resolution calling for the United States to drop its recent recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital. This is a tribute to the fact that Israel is clearly in the wrong and that Trump has ZERO clout, not to mention his "tough-guy" act is only causing dozens of innocent people to loose their lives.
There seems to be a big difference in what you are watching and what I am seeing.
With Trump and Netanyahu steering the foreign policies of their respective countries, I just pray that Russia and Iran keep their cool because if Israel and Iran go to war, it won't be as easy to save Israel's ass as it has been in the past.
And the death toll continues to climb as thousands... (show quote)
There seems to be a big diference from what you see and what I see.

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May 15, 2018 13:05:16   #
Big Kahuna
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Why Is Israel the Focus of Muslim Hostility?
Why Islam Will Never Accept the State of Israel
The Greatest Murder Machine in History


Why Middle East Muslims are taught to hate Jews

For far too long the pervasive Middle Eastern qualification of Jews as murderers and bloodsuckers was dismissed in the West as an extreme view of radical fringe groups. But it is not. It is time for the region's secular movements to start a counter-education in tolerance.

By Ayaan Hirsi Ali January 24, 2013

Cambridge, Mass. — Egypt’s newly elected president, Mohamed Morsi, was caught on tape about three years ago urging his followers to “nurse our children and our grandchildren on hatred” for Jews and Zionists. Not long after, the then-leader of the Muslim Brotherhood described Zionists as “bloodsuckers who attack the Palestinians,” “warmongers,” and “descendants of apes and pigs.”

These remarks are disgusting, but they are neither shocking nor new. As a child growing up in a Muslim family, I constantly heard my mother, other relatives, and neighbors wish for the death of Jews, who were considered our darkest enemy. Our religious tutors and the preachers in our mosques set aside extra time to pray for the destruction of Jews.

For far too long the pervasive Middle Eastern qualification of Jews as murderers and bloodsuckers was dismissed in the West as an extreme view expressed by radical fringe groups. But it is not.

All over the Middle East, hatred for Jews and Zionists can be found in textbooks for children as young as 3, complete with illustrations of Jews with monster-like qualities. Mainstream educational television programs are consistently anti-Semitic. In songs, books, newspaper articles, and blogs, Jews are variously compared to pigs, donkeys, rats, and cockroaches, and also to vampires and a host of other imaginary creatures.
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Consider this infamous dialogue between a 3-year-old and a television presenter, eight years before Mr. Morsi’s remarks.

Presenter: “Do you like Jews?”

3-year-old: “No.”

“Why don’t you like them?”

“Jews are apes and pigs.”

“Who said this?”

“Our God.”

“Where did he say this?”

“In the Koran.”

The presenter responds approvingly: “No [parents] could wish for Allah to give them a more believing girl than she ... May Allah bless her, her father, and mother.”

This conversation was not caught on hidden camera or taped by propagandists. It was featured on a prominent program called “Muslim Woman Magazine” and broadcast by Iqraa, the popular Saudi-owned satellite channel.

It is a major step forward for a sitting US administration and leading American newspapers to unequivocally condemn Morsi’s words. But condemnation is just the first move.

Here is an opportunity to acknowledge the breadth and depth of the attitude toward Jews in the Middle East, and how that affects the much desired but elusive peace process between Israel and the Palestinians.

So many explanations have been offered for the failure of successive US administrations to achieve that peace, but the answer is in Morsi’s words. Why would one make peace with bloodsuckers and descendants of apes and monkeys?

Millions of Muslims have been conditioned to regard Jews not only as the enemies of Palestine but as the enemies of all Muslims, of God, and of all humanity. Arab leaders far more prominent and influential than Morsi have been tireless in “educating” or “nursing” generations to believe that Jews are “the scum of the human race, the rats of the world, the violators of pacts and agreements, the murderers of the prophets, and the offspring of apes and pigs.” (These are the words of the Saudi sheik Abdul Rahman al-Sudais, imam at the Masjid al-Haram mosque in Mecca.)

In 2011, a Pew survey found that in Turkey, just 4 percent of those surveyed held a “very favorable” or “somewhat favorable” view of Jews; in Indonesia, 10 percent; in Pakistan, 2 percent. In addition, 95 percent of Jordanians, 94 percent of Egyptians, and 95 percent of Lebanese hold a “very unfavorable” view of Jews.

In recent decades Israeli and American administrations negotiated with unelected Arab despots, who played a double game. They honored the formal peace treaties by not conducting military attacks against Israel. But they condoned the Islamists’ dissemination of hatred against Israel, Zionism, and Jews.

As the Islamists spread their influence through civil institutions, young people were nursed on hatred.

In the wake of the Arab Spring, as the people take a chance on democracy, they and their new leadership want to see their ideals turned into policy.

For too many of those who fought for their own liberation, one of those ideals is the end of peace with Israel. The United States must make clear to Morsi that this is not an option.

This is also a crucial opportunity for the region’s secular movements, which must speak out against the clergy’s incitement of young minds to hatred. It is time for these secular movements to start a counter-education in tolerance.

Ayaan Hirsi Ali is a fellow at the Belfer Center’s Future of Diplomacy Project at the Harvard Kennedy School, and author of the books “Infidel” and “Nomad: From Islam to America: A Personal Journey Through the Clash of Civilizations.”
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I think the Catholic priests could be very busy if they truly wanted to be. Performing excorcisms on the demonic islamists would be very profitable as the whole lot are demon possessed just like many in our demonratic party today.

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May 15, 2018 13:06:58   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
donald41 wrote:
There seems to be a big diference from what you see and what I see.

What do you see?

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May 15, 2018 13:13:45   #
Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas
 
straightUp wrote:
No PR, just because some place existed 3,000 years ago doesn't mean it has a right to exist now. 300 years ago America was part of the British Empire. Are going to tell me the British have a right to take it back? 'Cause ya know, it used to belong to them.

And stop trying to make this an argument about whether or not Israel has a right to exist. I already told you I support a two-state solution which supports the continued existence of Israel. That doesn't mean I have to support their racist apartheid or their illegal occupation of territories that don't belong to them.
No PR, just because some place existed 3,000 years... (show quote)


OK, so forget about what happened 3,000 years ago.

Let's talk about the reason for their right to exist today.

I say they have a right to exist because they have courage and the firepower to back it up.

They've already purchased over 200 of these little beauties to add to an already overwhelming arsenal.



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May 15, 2018 13:14:26   #
donald41 Loc: puyallup Wa
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
Here's what has to be considered, StraightUp, If any country attempted to bring Isreal to heel for what they are inflicting, Israel has hundreds of nuclear weapons. They will blow up the world, or threaten to if things begin to go south and it appears they're about to be conquered. Have no doubt that any group that has murdered and assassinated its way to statehood will not hesitate to pull out all the stop. Life of the goy and others means little to them, as is evident when considering the event of 9-11.
Here's what has to be considered, StraightUp, If a... (show quote)


Where did you get this 100 figure from?

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May 15, 2018 13:18:22   #
Squiddiddler Loc: Phoenix
 
All that is needed for peace in the Middle East is for one side to admit that Israel has the right to exist and build their own territories up instead of wasting all their resources in a vain attempt to destroy a nation that would be happy to co-exist peacefully. Their own hate is what makes their territories $h!th0les







straightUp wrote:
What do you see?

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May 15, 2018 13:22:31   #
amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle
 
Alicia wrote:
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Breach the Borders? Israel has been extending their borders since its inception. That land was to constitute a two-party state. Israel's aim is to push the Palestinians into the sea. It always has been!


In the case of Gaza, Israel gave it to the Palestinians and pulled out. Apparantly it is the Palestinians who are trying to extend their borders because they are the ones trying to cross over. I am curious which sea you are talking about.

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May 15, 2018 13:29:08   #
Richard Rowland
 
donald41 wrote:
Where did you get this 100 figure from?


Can't really say, I read it somewhere.

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May 15, 2018 13:31:32   #
amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle
 
donald41 wrote:
Where did you get this 100 figure from?


Cap’n Eddie, aka Whole2th, told him.

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May 15, 2018 13:33:00   #
donald41 Loc: puyallup Wa
 
straightUp wrote:
What do you see?


I see you making up les to tell. I guess your doing this for amusment.

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May 15, 2018 13:40:15   #
Richard Rowland
 
amadjuster wrote:
Cap’n Eddie, aka Whole2th, told him.


Coulda been.

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May 15, 2018 13:43:52   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Alicia wrote:
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Breach the Borders? Israel has been extending their borders since its inception. That land was to constitute a two-party state. Israel's aim is to push the Palestinians into the sea. It always has been!
The Pew Research map below shows the concentration of the 1.9 billion Muslims in the world. As you can see, Islam dominates or controls many millions of square miles. If you zoom in on the Mediterranean coast just at the NW of Saudi Arabia, you might find the 8,000 square miles where 6.5 million Jews live, the remaining 7.5 million Jews are scattered throughout the world. In perspective, Muslims outnumber the Jews 1350 to 1. So, what do you think, cupcake, do think the Muslims need another 8000 square miles of land, or is there another reason they want that little spot of land?



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May 15, 2018 13:46:29   #
donald41 Loc: puyallup Wa
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
The Pew Research map below shows the concentration of the 1.9 billion Muslims in the world. As you can see, Islam dominates or controls many millions of square miles. If you zoom in on the Mediterranean coast just at the NW of Saudi Arabia, you might find the 8,000 square miles where 6.5 million Jews live, the remaining 7.5 million Jews are scattered throughout the world. In perspective, Muslims outnumber the Jews 1350 to 1. So, what do you think, cupcake, do think the Muslims need another 8000 square miles of land, or is there another reason they want that little spot of land?
The Pew Research map below shows the concentration... (show quote)

Damm good guestion.

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