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May 13, 2018 19:21:45   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
patrioticmind wrote:
A deal approved and signed by 5 countries, England, France, China, Russia and the USA. The only country which objected to this deal was Israel, which eventually through its powerful lobby in Washington worked its magic. England and France, two US allies, couldn' t have been wrong.


Yes they could.....They have money invested in Iran....They sold their souls to the Devil himself!!!

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May 13, 2018 19:25:51   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
moldyoldy wrote:
There was no crime committed by the DNC.


Oh, then Donna Bazil didn't give HRC the debate questions? Debbie didn't hire and keep the Anwan brothers on the payroll even after she was made aware of the hacking into DEMs computers? Didn't they steal the nomination from Bernie? You're way off the reservation on that comment.

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May 13, 2018 19:31:20   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Peewee wrote:
Oh, then Donna Bazil didn't give HRC the debate questions? Debbie didn't hire and keep the Anwan brothers on the payroll even after she was made aware of the hacking into DEMs computers? Didn't they steal the nomination from Bernie? You're way off the reservation on that comment.


Moldy is off the reservation on every comment,Peewee

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May 13, 2018 19:59:40   #
Ricktloml
 
Peewee wrote:
Why didn't the FBI just kick down their doors and take it? There was certainly more than enough circumstantial evidence to justify it. The point is they really didn't even try. Obama and Hillary had eight years to put their people in place, had all the levers to cover their butts, and then she lost. Big uh-oh. Stop making excuses for them. You don't justify bad behavior by pointing to someone else's bad behavior. Each person is responsible for their own bad behavior.


The Republicans actually cooperated with the FBI and their servers weren't compromised the way the Democrat's were. That is IF the Democrat servers WERE compromised from the outside. We only have their word, (and their paid operative's word for it,) and they way they have deceived everyone it's hard to say

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May 13, 2018 20:14:15   #
Richard Rowland
 
Peewee wrote:
Agree, that's why a currency reset is coming. But if history is any indication, their oil wells may soon catch on fire. Research Moab. It's where their nuclear reactor is and it's in the Bible.


Give us your interpretation of this so-called prophecy, about oil wells and nuclear reactors. While you're at it Pee Wee, inform us of other prophecies you feel have come to pass. Give us the verbatim wording from the Biblical passage you're drawing inspiration from.

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May 13, 2018 20:58:33   #
moldyoldy
 
son of witless wrote:
Well I read this CNN story and maybe you can see why I would be confused about who said what ? Perhaps you can sort it out ?

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/05/politics/fbi-russia-hacking-dnc-crowdstrike/index.html

" The DNC told Buzzfeed News that they did not receive a request from the FBI to access their computer servers. "


FBI: DNC rebuffed request to examine computer servers
In other words, they refused the request.

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May 13, 2018 21:13:54   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
moldyoldy wrote:
The Russians want iran oil off the market, Israel does not want iran puppets on their border, the arabs are just sunni vs shia.


So simple? No.

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May 13, 2018 21:14:26   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
moldyoldy wrote:
FBI: DNC rebuffed request to examine computer servers
In other words, they refused the request.


Bingo.

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May 13, 2018 21:54:56   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
Give us your interpretation of this so-called prophecy, about oil wells and nuclear reactors. While you're at it Pee Wee, inform us of other prophecies you feel have come to pass. Give us the verbatim wording from the Biblical passage you're drawing inspiration from.
If you are capable of Bible study and research, if you can work with Strong's Hebrew and Greek concordances, and you understand the procedures to test a prophesy for authenticity, you could start in the book of Genesis. The Hebrew lexicon of Wilhelm Gesenius, the 19th century Hebrew scholar, is unsurpassed in assisting Biblical research.

And, if you are really good at it, you could check out Ezekiel 36 through 39 to get a fix the situation developing in Israel and the ME. To provide some extra-Biblical commentary, the writings of the Greek historian Herodotus, the Hebrew historian Josephus, and the Roman scribe Pliny the Younger would be helpful in understanding background material.

Regarding prophecies that have "come to pass", in the OT there are 414 Messianic prophecies that were fulfilled 2000 years ago. For centuries, Bible scholars, theologians and clergy have studied these extensively, tested them all, and every one of them is without error.

Having suggested this, I am certain you have neither the will or inclination to take on such a project, but I thought I'd throw down the gaunlet.

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May 13, 2018 22:33:49   #
Richard Rowland
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
If you are capable of Bible study and research, if you can work with Strong's Hebrew and Greek concordances, and you understand the procedures to test a prophesy for authenticity, you could start in the book of Genesis. The Hebrew lexicon of Wilhelm Gesenius, the 19th century Hebrew scholar, is unsurpassed in assisting Biblical research.

And, if you are really good at it, you could check out Ezekiel 36 through 39 to get a fix the situation developing in Israel and the ME. To provide some extra-Biblical commentary, the writings of the Greek historian Herodotus, the Hebrew historian Josephus, and the Roman scribe Pliny the Younger would be helpful in understanding background material.

Regarding prophecies that have "come to pass", in the OT there are 414 Messianic prophecies that were fulfilled 2000 years ago. For centuries, Bible scholars, theologians and clergy have studied these extensively, tested them all, and every one of them is without error.

Having suggested this, I am certain you have neither the will or inclination to take on such a project, but I thought I'd throw down the gaunlet.
If you are capable of Bible study and research, if... (show quote)


You're correct, I have neither. For I know what prophecies are, many predictions thrown at the wall hoping some will stick. And anyone can rationalize for themselves what this or that babel means. And, I'll give ya odds that if ten different people read those passages, you've suggested, I'd get ten different interpretations.

I addressed my query to Pee Wee, but seeing how you've butted in, rather than suggest I read what you've suggested, just state verbatim the prophecies, and give me your interpretation.

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May 13, 2018 23:22:59   #
Ricktloml
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
You're correct, I have neither. For I know what prophecies are, many predictions thrown at the wall hoping some will stick. And anyone can rationalize for themselves what this or that babel means. And, I'll give ya odds that if ten different people read those passages, you've suggested, I'd get ten different interpretations.

I addressed my query to Pee Wee, but seeing how you've butted in, rather than suggest I read what you've suggested, just state verbatim the prophecies, and give me your interpretation.
You're correct, I have neither. For I know what pr... (show quote)


Butted in?! Good grief this is an open forum

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May 14, 2018 01:49:45   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
You're correct, I have neither. For I know what prophecies are, many predictions thrown at the wall hoping some will stick. And anyone can rationalize for themselves what this or that babel means. And, I'll give ya odds that if ten different people read those passages, you've suggested, I'd get ten different interpretations.

I addressed my query to Pee Wee, but seeing how you've butted in, rather than suggest I read what you've suggested, just state verbatim the prophecies, and give me your interpretation.
You're correct, I have neither. For I know what pr... (show quote)
Ah, gee, I butted in, did I? Prophecies, FYI, are not open to interpretation, either they are proven true or false.

Seriously, a prophecy fulfilled is a prediction "thrown at a wall hoping it will stick"??? Want to talk about odds? OK. What are the odds of one man fulfilling even one prophecy, let alone 8, or more importantly, 414?

Professor of mathematics Peter Stoner gave 600 students a math probability problem that would determine the odds for one person fulfilling eight specific prophecies. (This is not the same as flipping a coin eight times in a row and getting heads each time.) First the students calculated the odds of one person fulfilling all the conditions of one specific prophecy, such as being betrayed by a friend for 30 pieces of silver. Then the students did their best to estimate the odds for all of the eight prophecies combined.

The students calculated that the odds against one person fulfilling all eight prophecies are astronomical-one in ten to the 21st power. To illustrate that number, Stoner gave the following example: “First, blanket the entire Earth land mass with silver dollars 120 feet high. Second, specially mark one of those dollars and randomly bury it. Third, ask a person to travel the Earth and select the marked dollar, while blindfolded, from the trillions of other dollars."

People can do some pretty squishy things with numbers, so it’s important to note that Stoner’s work was reviewed by the American Scientific Association, which stated, “The mathematical analysis … is based upon principles of probability which are thoroughly sound, and Professor Stoner has applied these principles in a proper and convincing way."


Setting aside the thousands of prophetic passages in the OT (which I certainly refuse to "interpret" for you), let's consider just the Messianic prophecies. The seed of the Messianic prophecies was planted 40 centuries before Jesus was born, the last came 3 centuries before. When you synthesize them into a coherent whole, they tell of the man who would announce His coming, they tell of His birth, where He would be born, to whom, and under what circumstances; they tell of His mission on earth and His ministry, and how He and His teachings would be received; they tell of His betrayal and how much money the betrayer would receive; they tell of His arrest, who would arrest Him and why, they tell of His scourging, and crucifixion, they tell us how long His body would be entombed and when He was resurrected, and that He would remain on earth 40 days.

And, all this 3 to 40 centuries before He came.

Some years ago, United States Senate Chaplain Richard Halverson wrote:

"The fact is, the birth, crucifixion, and bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ are celebrated worldwide by folk of every race, language, and color, every year. And believing in Jesus, they have been delivered from the most evil, disastrous, frustrating, debilitating habits and life styles possible. The real problem with Jesus Christ is not that folk can't believe in Him—but that they won't believe in Him."

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May 14, 2018 01:58:49   #
badbob85037
 
rumitoid wrote:
Did BFF Putin order Trump to bail on Iran? It would appear so. (What does Russia have on him?) The only country in this accord to profit after Truump's withdrawal is Russia: what a coincidence. One more Russian link. But in Trump's admin, Russians are everywhere. Their interference gave him the presidency. And Comey.


You have just proved you haven't a clue on reality. It makes me think if I turned you in to mental health professionals I would be doing you a favor before you get any worse harming your self or others. On the other hand turning you in I would feel like one of those low lives that hung out on one of those obama snitch web sights. I will have to ponder this further.

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May 14, 2018 03:39:55   #
Chocura750
 
Rumitoid, considering the responses you really hit it on the head. Keep going. There are two opposing forces in the world: order and chaos. I think I know which side Trump is on.

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May 14, 2018 07:16:00   #
CodyCoonhound Loc: Redbone Country
 
Chocura750 wrote:
Rumitoid, considering the responses you really hit it on the head. Keep going. There are two opposing forces in the world: order and chaos. I think I know which side Trump is on.


You do not say what you think. You have left it for a guess. Since the left wing news says the WH is chaotic, that would be my guess at what you think. The news says that is bad. Proven theories applied for 100's of years disagrees.

And you think that is bad. Here is the theory of chaos which is applied to situations that are in drastic need of change. My belief is a chaotic WH is a great thing bringing about great changes to a government rapidly spinning away from its principles as defined in the US Constitution. Think on this condition.


Chaos theory - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory
Chaos theory is a branch of mathematics focusing on the behavior of dynamical systems that are highly sensitive to initial conditions. ... In other words, the deterministic nature of these systems does not make them predictable. This behavior is known as deterministic chaos, or simply chaos.
‎Chaos Theory (disambiguation) · ‎Edge of chaos · ‎Chaos game · ‎Lorenz system

Or

Summary: Chaos theory is a mathematical theory that can be used to explain complex systems such as weather, astronomy, politics, and economics. Although many complex systems appear to behave in a random manner, chaos theory shows that, in reality, there is an underlying order that is difficult to see. At this link: https://www.learning-theories.com/chaos-theory.html

One has to think and study to see the good. A horse can be lead to water, but one cannot make them drink it unless they are thirsty for the water/knowledge.

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