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May 13, 2018 12:58:46   #
cbpat1
 
rumitoid wrote:
Did BFF Putin order Trump to bail on Iran? It would appear so. (What does Russia have on him?) The only country in this accord to profit after Truump's withdrawal is Russia: what a coincidence. One more Russian link. But in Trump's admin, Russians are everywhere. Their interference gave him the presidency. And Comey.




rumi, your getting just as bad as kevyn! I mean really out there, brother. Maybe you can get discount rates at the nut house if you talked real nice to the receptionist. There is no Trump, Russia collusion, yet you two see it behind every tree, its amazing.

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May 13, 2018 13:11:35   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
currahee wrote:
One thing I know for sure; you can't have a "conversation" with a "brainwashed Marxist." They do not have eyes to see reality; when Hillary was actually shown by video of herself actually lying, she said, "I don't see it that way." Her followers will act in concert within the same mental frame. The "indoctrinators" from the Frankfort school who have polluted our government educational system have done a good job of disconnecting an entire generation from "self-evident truth." The only answer, for example, they can give you when you ask them a question on the basis of evidence, is, "Well, it's complicated", or, "We'll have to have a conversation about it." "You do lock your doors when you leave your house don't you (topic: "borders")?" Their answer (which signifies their dilemma), "Well, . .it's complicated." My retort, "Yeah - right."
"Liberals," "Progressives," "Globalist" and etc., are very depressed and stupid people made to be this way on purpose. We who are sane are dealing with an almost impossible-to-find-a-cure mental disorder.
One thing I know for sure; you can't have a "... (show quote)


I am not sure what you consider a "brainwashed marxist" unless your are referring to moonbats as such. However, I do know that you can neither have a "conversation" with a "brainwashed" hard right conservatard. If they don't attach you personally because they can't deal with reality, they attack any sources one uses to back up their assertions as liberal. As if that invalidates it. Thus is the basis for the phony left/right dichotomy the sheople are kept distracted and divided with. Both "sides" are guilty as hell.

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May 13, 2018 13:37:05   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Ricktloml wrote:
It wasn't even a 'deal'. Obama knew he couldn't get it through Congress, the Iranians refused to sign it. It was Obama's personal, political preference. And like most of Obama's preferences, it benefited our enemies. And the so call allies who supported it, all did it to make money, mostly selling arms to Iran, which Iran turned around and sponsored terrorism with. Russia sold Iran arms in spades. The withdrawal will hurt Russia more than help them. But misinformation, or rank ignorance, whichever the case is what leftists do
It wasn't even a 'deal'. Obama knew he couldn't ge... (show quote)


Disagree that it will hurt Russia, their main export is oil, the withdrawal of the Iran so-called unsigned deal will cause oil prices to climb. That benefits Russia, Israel, Saudia Arabia, and the USA. The Iran deal shut out US oil companies.

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May 13, 2018 14:33:12   #
Richard Rowland
 
Peewee wrote:
Disagree that it will hurt Russia, their main export is oil, the withdrawal of the Iran so-called unsigned deal will cause oil prices to climb. That benefits Russia, Israel, Saudia Arabia, and the USA. The Iran deal shut out US oil companies.


Gas prices have already begun to increase at the pump. Gas prices in our area have gone from the 2.60's per gallon, a-week-or-so-ago, prior to the president pulling out of the Iranian deal, to 2.85 this morning at the pump.


" That benefits Russia, Israel, Saudia Arabia, and the USA." You then point out that the Iran deal shuts out U.S. oil compies. That seems a contradiction. How is the USA benefited if U.S. oil companies are shut out?

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May 13, 2018 14:35:57   #
moldyoldy
 
CodyCoonhound wrote:
Just facts one can find when they open their eyes. Mueller and Comey and Guccifer2.0 are one and the same.

https://usvid.net/video/breaking-mueller-using-guccifer-2-0-to-charge-trump-for-collusion-without-evidence-of-dnc-hack-9rjPoa48kxE.html

Then VOX sends out this report pointing to Russian Hacks, but still only Crowdstrike the only one to view DNC server.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/4/2/17164266/trump-russia-mueller-email-hackings-dnc-clinton


If one asks why won't DNC let server be verified by someone who is not related to tem (Crowdstrike) then everything else points to cover up by Comey, OhB, HRC and many more.

I understand it ill take some time to review these, and you can believe what you want. However, if Mueller is following DOJ guidelines to not be doing anything within 6 months of an election, he will either indict or go dark by the end of May 2018 ro maybe June 2018. Same with DOJ. I say there will be many indictments before then. Why?

Too much at stake. Brennan, Comey, Mueller known leakers of classified info. They are on the lists. Mueller has 20,000 secret indictments applied for and approved for some one? Who. Gitmo has upgraded its capacity to handle at least 14,000 prisoners. Who? Enemies of the USA. Maybe something to do with DNC and claims of Russian interference. Who had anything to gain from Russian interference? Only Hillary and the democrats to ensure Trump did not win. Then Seth murdered 2 weeks before Assange came into play. Coincidental. I do not think so. Too many facts say something else.

But, you can smile and say Clinton's and their gang will never get charged because they never did anything. But time is running out on the few that have taken our country to some place it was never intended to be.

And do not forget the investigation into Uranium One and OhB and HRC's role to sell Ur to Russia and get paid for it. That undercover spy has already given hard and confirmed evidence to the current DOJ to prove the illegal moves to make that deal by OhB's gov't.

The only winners in all this will be the American people that are not part of the elite globalists.
Just facts one can find when they open their eyes.... (show quote)


Hacks were discovered in 2016 by the FBI. Your opinion pieces are a joke.

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May 13, 2018 14:58:39   #
Carol Kelly
 
buffalo wrote:
Then why hasn't the US already taken the little munchkin out? After all, we took out Saddam Hussein-Iraq, Muammar Gaddafi-Libya, and many other sovereign nations leaders...oh wait... we didn't take those leaders out for humanitarian reasons.


Then why did we take them out!??! The people were sending emissaries here to beg for our help. I don’t have a reference but dammit, I remember when it was happening. It was a lot more humanitarian than what we did to Yugoslavia.

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May 13, 2018 15:17:25   #
Ricktloml
 
byronglimish wrote:
That signature is enough to raise concern for anyone who isn't dumbed down with their god and savior "the gay Kenyan"..You people blindly believe what obamanation told you to believe...the iran deal was a 'phony deal'..Have you or any other prog actually read the deal..? All of it, not just the prog-propaganda??


Good grief, leftists fall for anything, 'phony' doesn't even cover it. It was NO deal, the Iranians never signed it, that way they could never be in non-compliance. They happily took that $150 billion, or more that Obama begged them to take, and promptly raised their military budget 40%, while their country declined domestically. They bought arms, sponsored more terrorism around the world, (aimed at guess who- the US, Israel and our allies.) I guess it should't be surprising that Obama supporters blindly accept anything he did, even when there is proof how bad it is. DEMOCRATS, many of whom are now complaining about the withdrawal LOUDLY OPPOSED this whatever it is when Obama thrust it upon us. It is all kind of sickening

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May 13, 2018 15:19:30   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
Then why did we take them out!??! The people were sending emissaries here to beg for our help. I don’t have a reference but dammit, I remember when it was happening. It was a lot more humanitarian than what we did to Yugoslavia.


It's always more "humanitarian" when the US can hide behind a proxy like NATO.

Look up and do some research on the petrodollar, its hegemony as the world's reserve currency, what it would mean economically for the American citizens if it lost the hegemony, and what we have done to countries (sanctions) whose leaders have attempted to bypass that petrodollar.

Saddam was getting around US sanctions and restrictions on Iraq oil sales by selling it in Euros, the Ruple and Yuan. A terrible no-no back then. We had him eliminated. But at what cost to US taxpayers? See, debt doesn't matter to the petrodollar because more can be created out of thin air.

Qaddafi, who was generous to his own people, was trying to unite the oil producing nations of Africa to sell their oil only in the gold backed Dinar that he was backing with his own gold and bypass the petrodollar.

Anyway, it is easy to do the research.

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May 13, 2018 15:23:38   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
Ricktloml wrote:
Good grief, leftists fall for anything, 'phony' doesn't even cover it. It was NO deal, the Iranians never signed it, that way they could never be in non-compliance. They happily took that $150 billion, or more that Obama begged them to take, and promptly raised their military budget 40%, while their country declined domestically. They bought arms, sponsored more terrorism around the world, (aimed at guess who- the US, Israel and our allies.) I guess it should't be surprising that Obama supporters blindly accept anything he did, even when there is proof how bad it is. DEMOCRATS, many of whom are now complaining about the withdrawal LOUDLY OPPOSED this whatever it is when Obama thrust it upon us. It is all kind of sickening
Good grief, leftists fall for anything, 'phony' do... (show quote)


And the ruskies and chinks continued to purchase their oil...and the 400 foreigh companies from virtually all over the world that profit from business relations with the Iranians. Sanctions...smanctions...LOL

And the US military industrial corporations are drooling at all the excuses for war.

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May 13, 2018 16:18:27   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
buffalo wrote:
Were they the enemies of the US, or is that just what the sheople were sold as an excuse to go to war? After all, invading Iraq after 911(which had nothing to do with 911) was all based in LIES. What we are often presented with by corporate media, especially when it comes to political issues and war overseas is a twist of what’s really happening and sometimes even based on outright lies.
Yeah, they were enemies of America and always have been.

Saddam Hussein was no different than any other tyrant on the earth.
In January, 1978, the Islamic Regime of Iran was established.
in July, 1979, Saddam Hussein became the leader of Iraq.
In September, 1980, Saddam's army invaded Iran, starting an 8 year war that took over a million lives.
In August, 1990, Saddam's army invaded Kuwait.
During his reign, Saddam murdered over 600,000 of his own people, he deployed chemical weapons to kill Iraqi Kurds. He paid $25,000 rewards to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers. His two sons were butchers.

And you think Saddam was no threat to world peace???? The brutal bastard got what he deserved.

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May 13, 2018 16:53:05   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
Gas prices have already begun to increase at the pump. Gas prices in our area have gone from the 2.60's per gallon, a-week-or-so-ago, prior to the president pulling out of the Iranian deal, to 2.85 this morning at the pump.


" That benefits Russia, Israel, Saudia Arabia, and the USA." You then point out that the Iran deal shuts out U.S. oil compies. That seems a contradiction. How is the USA benefited if U.S. oil companies are shut out?


Iran is I think is the #4 largest oil exporter but US companies were shut out from participating in building any footprint in Iran like the EU was allowed to do, no drilling contracts, tankers, etc... another death of a thousand cuts to the US from Obama. By withdrawing from the deal, Iran will now sell less and the EU loses their investments in Iran or we sanction them. Then the world buys our oil versus Iran's. Hope that clears it up. The UK, France, and Germany were betraying us along with Obama and HRC.

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May 13, 2018 17:22:34   #
son of witless
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Hacks were discovered in 2016 by the FBI. Your opinion pieces are a joke.


So who is lying the FBI or the DNC ? The FBI says they requested to examine the DNC hacked computer servers and were denied, while the
Democrats said they never received any requests .

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May 13, 2018 17:44:55   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Yeah, they were enemies of America and always have been.

Saddam Hussein was no different than any other tyrant on the earth.
In January, 1978, the Islamic Regime of Iran was established.
in July, 1979, Saddam Hussein became the leader of Iraq.
In September, 1980, Saddam's army invaded Iran, starting an 8 year war that took over a million lives.
In August, 1990, Saddam's army invaded Kuwait.
During his reign, Saddam murdered over 600,000 of his own people; he deployed chemical weapons to kill Iraqi Kurds. He paid $25,000 rewards to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers. His two sons were butchers.

And you think Saddam was no threat to world peace???? The brutal bastard got what he deserved.
Yeah, they were enemies of America and always have... (show quote)


Runnie wrote:
Saddam Hussein was no different than any other tyrant on the earth


We have tolerated, even installed tyrants (Pinochet=1973-1990, Videla=1776-1981, The Shah of Iran=1953-1978, Ayatollah Khomeini was on the CIA payroll in the 1970s in Paris, Saud family, and many others), so what "threat" was Saddam if he "was no different than any other tyrant on earth", other than to the petrodollar?

runnie wrote:
In January, 1978, the Islamic Regime of Iran was established.


The US instigated a coup in Iran and installed its puppet, the Shah of Iran, in 1953 til 1978 until the Iranians got tired of US exploitation of its resources.

runnie wrote:
In September, 1980, Saddam's army invaded Iran, starting an 8 year war that took over a million lives.


The US secretly support Saddam and Iraq in that little diddy.

"The American decision to lend crucial help to Baghdad so early in the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq war came after American intelligence agencies warned that Iraq was on the verge of being overrun by Iran, whose army was bolstered the year before by covert shipments of American-made weapons."
Did you get that Irans army was bolstered by covert shipments of US-made weapons ?

http://www.nytimes.com/1992/01/26/world/us-secretly-gave-aid-to-iraq-early-in-its-war-against-iran.html

smelly wrote:
In August, 1990, Saddam's army invaded Kuwait.


So what?
"Most countries condemned Iraq’s 1990 invasion of Kuwait. But the truth — that it was the culmination of a series of tangled economic and historical conflicts between two Arab oil states — wasn’t likely to sell the US public on the idea of sending our troops halfway around the world to do something about it.

So we were given a variation of the “domino theory.” Saddam Hussein, we were told, had designs on the entire Middle East. If he wasn’t halted in Kuwait, his troops would just keep going into other countries."

http://billmoyers.com/2014/06/27/the-first-iraq-war-was-also-sold-to-the-public-based-on-a-pack-of-lies/

http://www.apfn.org/Saddam-Hussein/Kuwait.htm

smelly and runnie wrote:
During his reign, Saddam murdered over 600,000 of his own people; he deployed chemical weapons to kill Iraqi Kurds. He paid $25,000 rewards to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers. His two sons were butchers.


So what? the US has support many murderous dictators worse than Saddam. He just stepped on the wrong toes connected to the ass he should have been kissing.

NO, he was not a threat to the US or world peace!

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May 13, 2018 17:52:24   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
Peewee wrote:
Iran is I think is the #4 largest oil exporter but US companies were shut out from participating in building any footprint in Iran like the EU was allowed to do, no drilling contracts, tankers, etc... another death of a thousand cuts to the US from Obama. By withdrawing from the deal, Iran will now sell less and the EU loses their investments in Iran or we sanction them. Then the world buys our oil versus Iran's. Hope that clears it up. The UK, France, and Germany were betraying us along with Obama and HRC.
Iran is I think is the #4 largest oil exporter but... (show quote)


PeeWee, Iran will sell all the oil the Ruskies and Chinese want. They will also sell it in gold, the ruple, or the yuan, or the new Chinese renminbi (RMB thereby bypassing and eliminating the petrodollar. Hide and watch all the excuses for the US fu9kin9 with Iran even secretly instigating an all out mid-east Iranian, Syrian, Lebonese, Israeli war.

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May 13, 2018 17:57:47   #
Mr Shako Loc: Colo Spgs
 
rumitoid wrote:
Did BFF Putin order Trump to bail on Iran? It would appear so. (What does Russia have on him?) The only country in this accord to profit after Truump's withdrawal is Russia: what a coincidence. One more Russian link. But in Trump's admin, Russians are everywhere. Their interference gave him the presidency. And Comey.


Dumb post!

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