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May 12, 2018 01:04:00   #
Nickolai (a regular here)
 
Mark Summer;
A report on Russian state media shows that Donald Trump has already delivered not just a gift to Vladimir Putin, but possibly the gift that Putin has wanted all along. In a conversation on RT, the two hosts note that to implement all the domestic programs Putin has promised for Russia, the cost will be 8 trillion rubles ($127 billion). But, where, the host questions, is Russia to get such a huge amount when the government has long been strapped for cash?
Female host says: "Looks like we found it. Trump is withdrawing US from the Iran nuclear deal. Oil prices should go up, which is good for us."
Crude oil futures have leapt from $26 at the time of Trump’s election to $77 today. Back in January, Trump actually certified that Iran was in compliance with the nuclear agreement. However, Trump threatened to end the agreement if it wasn’t expanded to include items unrelated to Iran’s nuclear program and “strengthened” in unspecified ways.
Trump increased his warnings that he would end the deal in February, and by March was engaged in talks with European allies—talks at which allies consistently urged Trump to remain in the deal and Trump consistently announced his intention to walk away. As the talks wore on, and Trump’s intransigence became clear, fears of a destabilized Middle East began to shore up oil prices.
Russian oil production hovers around 10 million barrels a day. That means the increase that has already happened in oil prices is providing Putin with an extra $520 million a day. If the prices were to continue at the level generated by Trump’s actions for a year, Putin could meet all his promises to Russia—and have $60 billion to spare—just out of the net increase.
Everything else that Trump has or hasn’t done about Russia, any sanctions, any tariffs, any expelled diplomats, absolutely pales in comparison to the huge boost he provided to the Russian economy by backing away from the Iran nuclear deal. In fact, short of actually starting a shooting war in the region, it’s difficult to find anything else that Trump might have done of more benefit to Putin. It’s certainly difficult to think of anything Trump might have done to generate a more certain boost for Russia.
Which raises the question: Was this the deal all along?

Since oil prices began falling from record highs a decade ago, Russia has been facing steep deficits. This has led to a significant level of privation. Russia has reduced its gaping debt over the last year, but only by slashing vital programs. It has also affected Russia’s ability to deploy it’s military power.
In 2014, as oil prices declined again, the value of the ruble tumbled, making it more difficult for Russia to borrow or import goods. At the start of 2015, the purchasing power index for Russia—the actual value of the country’s money when it comes to buying a standard “basket of goods”—was the lowest in the world.
The falling ruble triggered waves of inflation across Russia, putting prices up by double digits across the board, raising the interest rates to near 20 percent, and leading to widespread calls for wage and price controls. In 2016, Russia’s faced growing debt and declining GDP. Retail sales and personal wealth were both sharply down. Predictions were for a sustained period of oil prices below $20.
Despite the apparent ease with which Putin retained office, the prolonged pinch was beginning to hurt. Mass anti-Putin protests broke out in multiple cities on several occasions since 2011. Increasing emigration threatened to rob the country of it’s best and brightest. Putin ran for re-election on a platform of returning Russia to Soviet-era glory, with radical boosts to infrastructure and technology. But the prospect for meeting those goals seemed slim.
Officially, Russia had been planning for moderating markets in 2018, with small production cuts from OPEC setting the oil price around $45. Only that number seemed optimistic. Even six months ago, increased US production and flat global demand looked to hold prices down for an extended period.
Only one thing could stabilize the Russian currency, safeguard the government against a fresh wave of protests, and allow Putin to deliver on his fat stack of promises—a steep increase in oil prices. But oil was cheap, and there was no reason for it to stop being cheap.
So, if Donald Trump was tasked with solving that problem, what could he do?
Trump could hardly order a cut in US production. He might increase US strategic reserves, but not only would that generate a temporary effect, the current reserve is only 30 million barrels below the maximum capacity. Hardly enough to disrupt the market. He might also take steps to increase US consumption, such as raising CAFE standards. Which he has. But that effect will be felt more over the long term.
The only way to drive prices up significantly was to threaten the production of a nation that made a significant contribution to the world market. A contributor like Iran, which exports 2.5—3.8 million barrels a day, making it the third largest player in OPEC.
Itan has several advantages as a target. It’s not a US ally. It’s already wracked by internal instability that has world markets eyeing it warily. And best of all, Trump had a direct connection to Iran through the nuclear agreement. He could pull that cord, and watch the market go nuts.
Breaking the agreement didn’t really cost Trump much. Just the faith of every other nation on the planet, who now see that the US is willing to violate a treaty over the objections of allies and the evidence that the other party is living up to the deal. In other words, nothing that will concern his supporters.
But for Putin, Trump’s actions are mana from heaven; an undeserved bounty. Putin literally had to do nothing to see the Russian economy lifted out of the ditch where it has languished for years and restored to a position that empowers both domestic and military goals.
Putin had to do nothing … unless, of course, this is exactly why he did everything.
For Trump’s part, there seems to be no evidence that he left the Iran agreement with the goal of restoring Putin’s power. But it’s completely evident othat’s what he achieved.
 
May 12, 2018 04:58:22   #
Steve700 (a regular here)
 
Nickolai wrote:
Mark Summer;
A report on Russian state media shows that Donald Trump has already delivered not just a gift to Vladimir Putin, but possibly the gift that Putin has wanted all along. In a conversation on RT, the two hosts note that to implement all the domestic programs Putin has promised for Russia, the cost will be 8 trillion rubles ($127 billion). But, where, the host questions, is Russia to get such a huge amount when the government has long been strapped for cash?
Female host says: "Looks like we found it. Trump is withdrawing US from the Iran nuclear deal. Oil prices should go up, which is good for us."
Crude oil futures have leapt from $26 at the time of Trump’s election to $77 today. Back in January, Trump actually certified that Iran was in compliance with the nuclear agreement. However, Trump threatened to end the agreement if it wasn’t expanded to include items unrelated to Iran’s nuclear program and “strengthened” in unspecified ways.
Trump increased his warnings that he would end the deal in February, and by March was engaged in talks with European allies—talks at which allies consistently urged Trump to remain in the deal and Trump consistently announced his intention to walk away. As the talks wore on, and Trump’s intransigence became clear, fears of a destabilized Middle East began to shore up oil prices.
Russian oil production hovers around 10 million barrels a day. That means the increase that has already happened in oil prices is providing Putin with an extra $520 million a day. If the prices were to continue at the level generated by Trump’s actions for a year, Putin could meet all his promises to Russia—and have $60 billion to spare—just out of the net increase.
Everything else that Trump has or hasn’t done about Russia, any sanctions, any tariffs, any expelled diplomats, absolutely pales in comparison to the huge boost he provided to the Russian economy by backing away from the Iran nuclear deal. In fact, short of actually starting a shooting war in the region, it’s difficult to find anything else that Trump might have done of more benefit to Putin. It’s certainly difficult to think of anything Trump might have done to generate a more certain boost for Russia.
Which raises the question: Was this the deal all along?

Since oil prices began falling from record highs a decade ago, Russia has been facing steep deficits. This has led to a significant level of privation. Russia has reduced its gaping debt over the last year, but only by slashing vital programs. It has also affected Russia’s ability to deploy it’s military power.
In 2014, as oil prices declined again, the value of the ruble tumbled, making it more difficult for Russia to borrow or import goods. At the start of 2015, the purchasing power index for Russia—the actual value of the country’s money when it comes to buying a standard “basket of goods”—was the lowest in the world.
The falling ruble triggered waves of inflation across Russia, putting prices up by double digits across the board, raising the interest rates to near 20 percent, and leading to widespread calls for wage and price controls. In 2016, Russia’s faced growing debt and declining GDP. Retail sales and personal wealth were both sharply down. Predictions were for a sustained period of oil prices below $20.
Despite the apparent ease with which Putin retained office, the prolonged pinch was beginning to hurt. Mass anti-Putin protests broke out in multiple cities on several occasions since 2011. Increasing emigration threatened to rob the country of it’s best and brightest. Putin ran for re-election on a platform of returning Russia to Soviet-era glory, with radical boosts to infrastructure and technology. But the prospect for meeting those goals seemed slim.
Officially, Russia had been planning for moderating markets in 2018, with small production cuts from OPEC setting the oil price around $45. Only that number seemed optimistic. Even six months ago, increased US production and flat global demand looked to hold prices down for an extended period.
Only one thing could stabilize the Russian currency, safeguard the government against a fresh wave of protests, and allow Putin to deliver on his fat stack of promises—a steep increase in oil prices. But oil was cheap, and there was no reason for it to stop being cheap.
So, if Donald Trump was tasked with solving that problem, what could he do?
Trump could hardly order a cut in US production. He might increase US strategic reserves, but not only would that generate a temporary effect, the current reserve is only 30 million barrels below the maximum capacity. Hardly enough to disrupt the market. He might also take steps to increase US consumption, such as raising CAFE standards. Which he has. But that effect will be felt more over the long term.
The only way to drive prices up significantly was to threaten the production of a nation that made a significant contribution to the world market. A contributor like Iran, which exports 2.5—3.8 million barrels a day, making it the third largest player in OPEC.
Itan has several advantages as a target. It’s not a US ally. It’s already wracked by internal instability that has world markets eyeing it warily. And best of all, Trump had a direct connection to Iran through the nuclear agreement. He could pull that cord, and watch the market go nuts.
Breaking the agreement didn’t really cost Trump much. Just the faith of every other nation on the planet, who now see that the US is willing to violate a treaty over the objections of allies and the evidence that the other party is living up to the deal. In other words, nothing that will concern his supporters.
But for Putin, Trump’s actions are mana from heaven; an undeserved bounty. Putin literally had to do nothing to see the Russian economy lifted out of the ditch where it has languished for years and restored to a position that empowers both domestic and military goals.
Putin had to do nothing … unless, of course, this is exactly why he did everything.
For Trump’s part, there seems to be no evidence that he left the Iran agreement with the goal of restoring Putin’s power. But it’s completely evident othat’s what he achieved.
Mark Summer; br A report on Russian state media sh... (show quote)


EVERYONE SHOULD READ THIS:
With our fracking and rate increase in oil production within the last few years, we have been deeply hurting Russia. Our economy is getting better, thanks to Trump and so prices are escalating anyway because now people can afford it. Why you want to hurt the Russian people when Russia has helped Trump destroy ISIS until there is hardly anything left of them. That Commie bastard Muslim Obama could have done years ago if he had wanted, but instead, in 2011, he chose to release the incarcerated Al bahgdaddi the Islamic scholar and organizer that founded and led ISIS, (being and organizer himself, he obviously knew what an Islamic scholar and organizer would do) and then he choose to support them & abruptly, against all advice, pull ALL of our soldiers out and give them All of our military hardware in Iraq enableing them to take over most of Iraq. That son of a bitch deliberately help them to slaughter and try to exterminate Christians and take over as much of the Middle East as they could in his (Obama's) effort to get a caliphate going in the Middle East. And if you question it, you were just led to believe he was a little naïve and stupid. And now you stupid Marxist programmed Obamabots choose to defame Trump who coordinated help from Russia to help exterminate those Savage murderering fanatics. I think they deserve a gift for their help. What do you think of that?
May 12, 2018 06:23:54   #
badbob85037 (a regular here)
 
Steve700 wrote:
EVERYONE SHOULD READ THIS:
With our fracking and rate increase in oil production within the last few years, we have been deeply hurting Russia. Our economy is getting better, thanks to Trump and so prices are escalating anyway because now people can afford it. Why you want to hurt the Russian people when Russia has helped Trump destroy ISIS until there is hardly anything left of them. That Commie bastard Muslim Obama could have done years ago if he had wanted, but instead, in 2011, he chose to release the incarcerated Al bahgdaddi the Islamic scholar and organizer that founded and led ISIS, (being and organizer himself, he obviously knew what an Islamic scholar and organizer would do) and then he choose to support them & abruptly, against all advice, pull ALL of our soldiers out and give them All of our military hardware in Iraq enableing them to take over most of Iraq. That son of a bitch deliberately help them to slaughter and try to exterminate Christians and take over as much of the Middle East as they could in his (Obama's) effort to get a caliphate going in the Middle East. And if you question it, you were just led to believe he was a little naïve and stupid. And now you stupid Marxist programmed Obamabots choose to defame Trump who coordinated help from Russia to help exterminate those Savage murderering fanatics. I think they deserve a gift for their help. What do you think of that?
b color=red EVERYONE SHOULD READ THIS /color /b... (show quote)


Thank you.
May 12, 2018 08:39:48   #
roy
 
Steve700 wrote:
EVERYONE SHOULD READ THIS:
With our fracking and rate increase in oil production within the last few years, we have been deeply hurting Russia. Our economy is getting better, thanks to Trump and so prices are escalating anyway because now people can afford it. Why you want to hurt the Russian people when Russia has helped Trump destroy ISIS until there is hardly anything left of them. That Commie bastard Muslim Obama could have done years ago if he had wanted, but instead, in 2011, he chose to release the incarcerated Al bahgdaddi the Islamic scholar and organizer that founded and led ISIS, (being and organizer himself, he obviously knew what an Islamic scholar and organizer would do) and then he choose to support them & abruptly, against all advice, pull ALL of our soldiers out and give them All of our military hardware in Iraq enableing them to take over most of Iraq. That son of a bitch deliberately help them to slaughter and try to exterminate Christians and take over as much of the Middle East as they could in his (Obama's) effort to get a caliphate going in the Middle East. And if you question it, you were just led to believe he was a little naïve and stupid. And now you stupid Marxist programmed Obamabots choose to defame Trump who coordinated help from Russia to help exterminate those Savage murderering fanatics. I think they deserve a gift for their help. What do you think of that?
b color=red EVERYONE SHOULD READ THIS /color /b... (show quote)


Republicans got their pipe line ,more fracking,more oil than ever coming out of our ground,all to be loaded on tankers and sold else where why.with prices going up and are going to go much higher.well there goes the little raise people got that is supposed to grow the economy.As the USA worked long and hard to break russia for years,now you naive stupid people think its ok to make them a rich country again,because trump tells you putin is our friend,maybe trump and putin are friends for one reason or another,putin does not give a rats ass about the american people.
May 12, 2018 08:41:33   #
drlarrygino (a regular here)
 
Nickolai wrote:
Mark Summer;
A report on Russian state media shows that Donald Trump has already delivered not just a gift to Vladimir Putin, but possibly the gift that Putin has wanted all along. In a conversation on RT, the two hosts note that to implement all the domestic programs Putin has promised for Russia, the cost will be 8 trillion rubles ($127 billion). But, where, the host questions, is Russia to get such a huge amount when the government has long been strapped for cash?
Female host says: "Looks like we found it. Trump is withdrawing US from the Iran nuclear deal. Oil prices should go up, which is good for us."
Crude oil futures have leapt from $26 at the time of Trump’s election to $77 today. Back in January, Trump actually certified that Iran was in compliance with the nuclear agreement. However, Trump threatened to end the agreement if it wasn’t expanded to include items unrelated to Iran’s nuclear program and “strengthened” in unspecified ways.
Trump increased his warnings that he would end the deal in February, and by March was engaged in talks with European allies—talks at which allies consistently urged Trump to remain in the deal and Trump consistently announced his intention to walk away. As the talks wore on, and Trump’s intransigence became clear, fears of a destabilized Middle East began to shore up oil prices.
Russian oil production hovers around 10 million barrels a day. That means the increase that has already happened in oil prices is providing Putin with an extra $520 million a day. If the prices were to continue at the level generated by Trump’s actions for a year, Putin could meet all his promises to Russia—and have $60 billion to spare—just out of the net increase.
Everything else that Trump has or hasn’t done about Russia, any sanctions, any tariffs, any expelled diplomats, absolutely pales in comparison to the huge boost he provided to the Russian economy by backing away from the Iran nuclear deal. In fact, short of actually starting a shooting war in the region, it’s difficult to find anything else that Trump might have done of more benefit to Putin. It’s certainly difficult to think of anything Trump might have done to generate a more certain boost for Russia.
Which raises the question: Was this the deal all along?

Since oil prices began falling from record highs a decade ago, Russia has been facing steep deficits. This has led to a significant level of privation. Russia has reduced its gaping debt over the last year, but only by slashing vital programs. It has also affected Russia’s ability to deploy it’s military power.
In 2014, as oil prices declined again, the value of the ruble tumbled, making it more difficult for Russia to borrow or import goods. At the start of 2015, the purchasing power index for Russia—the actual value of the country’s money when it comes to buying a standard “basket of goods”—was the lowest in the world.
The falling ruble triggered waves of inflation across Russia, putting prices up by double digits across the board, raising the interest rates to near 20 percent, and leading to widespread calls for wage and price controls. In 2016, Russia’s faced growing debt and declining GDP. Retail sales and personal wealth were both sharply down. Predictions were for a sustained period of oil prices below $20.
Despite the apparent ease with which Putin retained office, the prolonged pinch was beginning to hurt. Mass anti-Putin protests broke out in multiple cities on several occasions since 2011. Increasing emigration threatened to rob the country of it’s best and brightest. Putin ran for re-election on a platform of returning Russia to Soviet-era glory, with radical boosts to infrastructure and technology. But the prospect for meeting those goals seemed slim.
Officially, Russia had been planning for moderating markets in 2018, with small production cuts from OPEC setting the oil price around $45. Only that number seemed optimistic. Even six months ago, increased US production and flat global demand looked to hold prices down for an extended period.
Only one thing could stabilize the Russian currency, safeguard the government against a fresh wave of protests, and allow Putin to deliver on his fat stack of promises—a steep increase in oil prices. But oil was cheap, and there was no reason for it to stop being cheap.
So, if Donald Trump was tasked with solving that problem, what could he do?
Trump could hardly order a cut in US production. He might increase US strategic reserves, but not only would that generate a temporary effect, the current reserve is only 30 million barrels below the maximum capacity. Hardly enough to disrupt the market. He might also take steps to increase US consumption, such as raising CAFE standards. Which he has. But that effect will be felt more over the long term.
The only way to drive prices up significantly was to threaten the production of a nation that made a significant contribution to the world market. A contributor like Iran, which exports 2.5—3.8 million barrels a day, making it the third largest player in OPEC.
Itan has several advantages as a target. It’s not a US ally. It’s already wracked by internal instability that has world markets eyeing it warily. And best of all, Trump had a direct connection to Iran through the nuclear agreement. He could pull that cord, and watch the market go nuts.
Breaking the agreement didn’t really cost Trump much. Just the faith of every other nation on the planet, who now see that the US is willing to violate a treaty over the objections of allies and the evidence that the other party is living up to the deal. In other words, nothing that will concern his supporters.
But for Putin, Trump’s actions are mana from heaven; an undeserved bounty. Putin literally had to do nothing to see the Russian economy lifted out of the ditch where it has languished for years and restored to a position that empowers both domestic and military goals.
Putin had to do nothing … unless, of course, this is exactly why he did everything.
For Trump’s part, there seems to be no evidence that he left the Iran agreement with the goal of restoring Putin’s power. But it’s completely evident othat’s what he achieved.
Mark Summer; br A report on Russian state media sh... (show quote)


The only gift given to Putin will be the gift that our leftists in the U. S. will give to him if they continue to keep us from drilling for oil in our own country and off shore. We have more oil than Russia and could be exporting it to Europe soon and deleting oil from Russia going to Europe if the leftists get off the backs of our American oil companies. The fake newz you leftists spew is beyond belief but it is slowly catching up to you foolish ones and soon your entire marxist platform will be taken down!!
May 12, 2018 08:44:54   #
drlarrygino (a regular here)
 
Steve700 wrote:
EVERYONE SHOULD READ THIS:
With our fracking and rate increase in oil production within the last few years, we have been deeply hurting Russia. Our economy is getting better, thanks to Trump and so prices are escalating anyway because now people can afford it. Why you want to hurt the Russian people when Russia has helped Trump destroy ISIS until there is hardly anything left of them. That Commie bastard Muslim Obama could have done years ago if he had wanted, but instead, in 2011, he chose to release the incarcerated Al bahgdaddi the Islamic scholar and organizer that founded and led ISIS, (being and organizer himself, he obviously knew what an Islamic scholar and organizer would do) and then he choose to support them & abruptly, against all advice, pull ALL of our soldiers out and give them All of our military hardware in Iraq enableing them to take over most of Iraq. That son of a bitch deliberately help them to slaughter and try to exterminate Christians and take over as much of the Middle East as they could in his (Obama's) effort to get a caliphate going in the Middle East. And if you question it, you were just led to believe he was a little naïve and stupid. And now you stupid Marxist programmed Obamabots choose to defame Trump who coordinated help from Russia to help exterminate those Savage murderering fanatics. I think they deserve a gift for their help. What do you think of that?
b color=red EVERYONE SHOULD READ THIS /color /b... (show quote)

Telling it like it really is Steve is a breath of fresh air. That repetitive old leftist news with all of it's lies can fool and entrap a few but for us enlightened ones, the left is old school.
 
May 12, 2018 08:59:55   #
Bad Bob (a regular here)
 
Steve700 wrote:
EVERYONE SHOULD READ THIS:
With our fracking and rate increase in oil production within the last few years, we have been deeply hurting Russia. Our economy is getting better, thanks to Trump and so prices are escalating anyway because now people can afford it. Why you want to hurt the Russian people when Russia has helped Trump destroy ISIS until there is hardly anything left of them. That Commie bastard Muslim Obama could have done years ago if he had wanted, but instead, in 2011, he chose to release the incarcerated Al bahgdaddi the Islamic scholar and organizer that founded and led ISIS, (being and organizer himself, he obviously knew what an Islamic scholar and organizer would do) and then he choose to support them & abruptly, against all advice, pull ALL of our soldiers out and give them All of our military hardware in Iraq enableing them to take over most of Iraq. That son of a bitch deliberately help them to slaughter and try to exterminate Christians and take over as much of the Middle East as they could in his (Obama's) effort to get a caliphate going in the Middle East. And if you question it, you were just led to believe he was a little naïve and stupid. And now you stupid Marxist programmed Obamabots choose to defame Trump who coordinated help from Russia to help exterminate those Savage murderering fanatics. I think they deserve a gift for their help. What do you think of that?
b color=red EVERYONE SHOULD READ THIS /color /b... (show quote)


Stevie you're off your meds again.
May 12, 2018 09:19:19   #
Lonewolf (a regular here)
 
The backs of the oil companies that we give 30 billion a year even when they post record profits. Trump hired tillerson to put together a 500 billion oil deal in Russia but congress stoped it with sanctions.
14 min after trump was sworn in flyn was on the phone with Russia telling them the sanctions would be torn up. Trump and Putin are more than friends and their not working in out best interest, trump will sell us out for profit




drlarrygino wrote:
The only gift given to Putin will be the gift that our leftists in the U. S. will give to him if they continue to keep us from drilling for oil in our own country and off shore. We have more oil than Russia and could be exporting it to Europe soon and deleting oil from Russia going to Europe if the leftists get off the backs of our American oil companies. The fake newz you leftists spew is beyond belief but it is slowly catching up to you foolish ones and soon your entire marxist platform will be taken down!!
The only gift given to Putin will be the gift that... (show quote)
May 12, 2018 09:22:01   #
Jakebrake (a regular here)
 
Bad Bob wrote:
Stevie you're off your meds again.


Au contraire Bad Boob, Steve is merely pointing out the absurdity exposed by you left wing nutsos, and unfortunately for you and your ilk it's resonating with all patriotic Americans. All one need do is look at how the gap has closed in the midterms. Last December the dims had a 15 point lead, and now it's less than 3 percentage points, and has become cause for worry within the DNC. Of course statements and positions by your hero's; Shillary, Nan Pelosi, Chuckles Schumer and that pillar of intellect Maxine Waters are not helping your cause

Personally I hope Steve stays 'off his meds' and continues to exhibit the looniness of you lefties!
May 12, 2018 09:22:46   #
drlarrygino (a regular here)
 
Lonewolf wrote:
The backs of the oil companies that we give 30 billion a year even when they post record profits. Trump hired tillerson to put together a 500 billion oil deal in Russia but congress stoped it with sanctions.
14 min after trump was sworn in flyn was on the phone with Russia telling them the sanctions would be torn up. Trump and Putin are more than friends and their not working in out best interest, trump will sell us out for profit


And you would bully and push people out of your way to reach down and pick up a dirty penney! Shame on you.
May 12, 2018 09:58:56   #
boatbob2 (a regular here)
 
With ALL,the so called oil,here in the USA,WHY ?? did I pay $2.71.9 cents a gallon of gas,yesterday,here in Crystal river,Fla?? I'll bet the mexifornians are REALL crying now,their gas is between $3.50 and $4.00 a gallon,thanks to gov moonbeam.....
 
May 12, 2018 10:57:16   #
Bad Bob (a regular here)
 
boatbob2 wrote:
With ALL,the so called oil,here in the USA,WHY ?? did I pay $2.71.9 cents a gallon of gas,yesterday,here in Crystal river,Fla?? I'll bet the mexifornians are REALL crying now,their gas is between $3.50 and $4.00 a gallon,thanks to gov moonbeam.....


They ain't crying about their air being cleaner.
May 12, 2018 11:03:38   #
son of witless (a regular here)
 
Nickolai wrote:
Mark Summer;
A report on Russian state media shows that Donald Trump has already delivered not just a gift to Vladimir Putin, but possibly the gift that Putin has wanted all along. In a conversation on RT, the two hosts note that to implement all the domestic programs Putin has promised for Russia, the cost will be 8 trillion rubles ($127 billion). But, where, the host questions, is Russia to get such a huge amount when the government has long been strapped for cash?
Female host says: "Looks like we found it. Trump is withdrawing US from the Iran nuclear deal. Oil prices should go up, which is good for us."
Crude oil futures have leapt from $26 at the time of Trump’s election to $77 today. Back in January, Trump actually certified that Iran was in compliance with the nuclear agreement. However, Trump threatened to end the agreement if it wasn’t expanded to include items unrelated to Iran’s nuclear program and “strengthened” in unspecified ways.
Trump increased his warnings that he would end the deal in February, and by March was engaged in talks with European allies—talks at which allies consistently urged Trump to remain in the deal and Trump consistently announced his intention to walk away. As the talks wore on, and Trump’s intransigence became clear, fears of a destabilized Middle East began to shore up oil prices.
Russian oil production hovers around 10 million barrels a day. That means the increase that has already happened in oil prices is providing Putin with an extra $520 million a day. If the prices were to continue at the level generated by Trump’s actions for a year, Putin could meet all his promises to Russia—and have $60 billion to spare—just out of the net increase.
Everything else that Trump has or hasn’t done about Russia, any sanctions, any tariffs, any expelled diplomats, absolutely pales in comparison to the huge boost he provided to the Russian economy by backing away from the Iran nuclear deal. In fact, short of actually starting a shooting war in the region, it’s difficult to find anything else that Trump might have done of more benefit to Putin. It’s certainly difficult to think of anything Trump might have done to generate a more certain boost for Russia.
Which raises the question: Was this the deal all along?

Since oil prices began falling from record highs a decade ago, Russia has been facing steep deficits. This has led to a significant level of privation. Russia has reduced its gaping debt over the last year, but only by slashing vital programs. It has also affected Russia’s ability to deploy it’s military power.
In 2014, as oil prices declined again, the value of the ruble tumbled, making it more difficult for Russia to borrow or import goods. At the start of 2015, the purchasing power index for Russia—the actual value of the country’s money when it comes to buying a standard “basket of goods”—was the lowest in the world.
The falling ruble triggered waves of inflation across Russia, putting prices up by double digits across the board, raising the interest rates to near 20 percent, and leading to widespread calls for wage and price controls. In 2016, Russia’s faced growing debt and declining GDP. Retail sales and personal wealth were both sharply down. Predictions were for a sustained period of oil prices below $20.
Despite the apparent ease with which Putin retained office, the prolonged pinch was beginning to hurt. Mass anti-Putin protests broke out in multiple cities on several occasions since 2011. Increasing emigration threatened to rob the country of it’s best and brightest. Putin ran for re-election on a platform of returning Russia to Soviet-era glory, with radical boosts to infrastructure and technology. But the prospect for meeting those goals seemed slim.
Officially, Russia had been planning for moderating markets in 2018, with small production cuts from OPEC setting the oil price around $45. Only that number seemed optimistic. Even six months ago, increased US production and flat global demand looked to hold prices down for an extended period.
Only one thing could stabilize the Russian currency, safeguard the government against a fresh wave of protests, and allow Putin to deliver on his fat stack of promises—a steep increase in oil prices. But oil was cheap, and there was no reason for it to stop being cheap.
So, if Donald Trump was tasked with solving that problem, what could he do?
Trump could hardly order a cut in US production. He might increase US strategic reserves, but not only would that generate a temporary effect, the current reserve is only 30 million barrels below the maximum capacity. Hardly enough to disrupt the market. He might also take steps to increase US consumption, such as raising CAFE standards. Which he has. But that effect will be felt more over the long term.
The only way to drive prices up significantly was to threaten the production of a nation that made a significant contribution to the world market. A contributor like Iran, which exports 2.5—3.8 million barrels a day, making it the third largest player in OPEC.
Itan has several advantages as a target. It’s not a US ally. It’s already wracked by internal instability that has world markets eyeing it warily. And best of all, Trump had a direct connection to Iran through the nuclear agreement. He could pull that cord, and watch the market go nuts.
Breaking the agreement didn’t really cost Trump much. Just the faith of every other nation on the planet, who now see that the US is willing to violate a treaty over the objections of allies and the evidence that the other party is living up to the deal. In other words, nothing that will concern his supporters.
But for Putin, Trump’s actions are mana from heaven; an undeserved bounty. Putin literally had to do nothing to see the Russian economy lifted out of the ditch where it has languished for years and restored to a position that empowers both domestic and military goals.
Putin had to do nothing … unless, of course, this is exactly why he did everything.
For Trump’s part, there seems to be no evidence that he left the Iran agreement with the goal of restoring Putin’s power. But it’s completely evident othat’s what he achieved.
Mark Summer; br A report on Russian state media sh... (show quote)


So you are making the argument that oil prices going up are because President Donald J. Trump nullified Obama's Iran deal ? Therefore this is a gift to Putin and Russia ?

There are a few problems with your scenario, Nicholas. First it was your buddy, Young Barry Obama who did everything in his power to stop American Fracking and other sources of increased American Energy Production. That increased American Energy Production has hurt Putin more than anything else. In case you do not know this, your buddies in the left wing environmental media have savaged President Donald J. Trump
for trying to open ANWR to oil drilling. Good thing for America, bad for leftists, and really really bad for Putin.

Second, what has been driving the increases in price for oil lately ? Yes Trump's killing of the Iran Deal is having some effect however, the increase began long before Trump killed Young Barry's Deal. If you knew anything about oil and economics you would know that the increase in the oil price is being driven by an increase in Global Demand. In other words, during the Trump Presidency things around the Globe are pretty good.

Third, Iran is an ally of Russia. While Russia benefits from a rise in oil prices which a decrease in Iranian production helps cause, Russia does not want Iran to be hurt. Also Russia's troublesome Muslim population is primarily Sunni, while Iran is Shia. That little tidbit matters a lot. Russia sells military hardware to Iran.
May 12, 2018 11:38:43   #
old marine (a regular here)
 
Nickolai wrote:
Mark Summer;
A report on Russian state media shows that Donald Trump has already delivered not just a gift to Vladimir Putin, but possibly the gift that Putin has wanted all along. In a conversation on RT, the two hosts note that to implement all the domestic programs Putin has promised for Russia, the cost will be 8 trillion rubles ($127 billion). But, where, the host questions, is Russia to get such a huge amount when the government has long been strapped for cash?
Female host says: "Looks like we found it. Trump is withdrawing US from the Iran nuclear deal. Oil prices should go up, which is good for us."
Crude oil futures have leapt from $26 at the time of Trump’s election to $77 today. Back in January, Trump actually certified that Iran was in compliance with the nuclear agreement. However, Trump threatened to end the agreement if it wasn’t expanded to include items unrelated to Iran’s nuclear program and “strengthened” in unspecified ways.
Trump increased his warnings that he would end the deal in February, and by March was engaged in talks with European allies—talks at which allies consistently urged Trump to remain in the deal and Trump consistently announced his intention to walk away. As the talks wore on, and Trump’s intransigence became clear, fears of a destabilized Middle East began to shore up oil prices.
Russian oil production hovers around 10 million barrels a day. That means the increase that has already happened in oil prices is providing Putin with an extra $520 million a day. If the prices were to continue at the level generated by Trump’s actions for a year, Putin could meet all his promises to Russia—and have $60 billion to spare—just out of the net increase.
Everything else that Trump has or hasn’t done about Russia, any sanctions, any tariffs, any expelled diplomats, absolutely pales in comparison to the huge boost he provided to the Russian economy by backing away from the Iran nuclear deal. In fact, short of actually starting a shooting war in the region, it’s difficult to find anything else that Trump might have done of more benefit to Putin. It’s certainly difficult to think of anything Trump might have done to generate a more certain boost for Russia.
Which raises the question: Was this the deal all along?

Since oil prices began falling from record highs a decade ago, Russia has been facing steep deficits. This has led to a significant level of privation. Russia has reduced its gaping debt over the last year, but only by slashing vital programs. It has also affected Russia’s ability to deploy it’s military power.
In 2014, as oil prices declined again, the value of the ruble tumbled, making it more difficult for Russia to borrow or import goods. At the start of 2015, the purchasing power index for Russia—the actual value of the country’s money when it comes to buying a standard “basket of goods”—was the lowest in the world.
The falling ruble triggered waves of inflation across Russia, putting prices up by double digits across the board, raising the interest rates to near 20 percent, and leading to widespread calls for wage and price controls. In 2016, Russia’s faced growing debt and declining GDP. Retail sales and personal wealth were both sharply down. Predictions were for a sustained period of oil prices below $20.
Despite the apparent ease with which Putin retained office, the prolonged pinch was beginning to hurt. Mass anti-Putin protests broke out in multiple cities on several occasions since 2011. Increasing emigration threatened to rob the country of it’s best and brightest. Putin ran for re-election on a platform of returning Russia to Soviet-era glory, with radical boosts to infrastructure and technology. But the prospect for meeting those goals seemed slim.
Officially, Russia had been planning for moderating markets in 2018, with small production cuts from OPEC setting the oil price around $45. Only that number seemed optimistic. Even six months ago, increased US production and flat global demand looked to hold prices down for an extended period.
Only one thing could stabilize the Russian currency, safeguard the government against a fresh wave of protests, and allow Putin to deliver on his fat stack of promises—a steep increase in oil prices. But oil was cheap, and there was no reason for it to stop being cheap.
So, if Donald Trump was tasked with solving that problem, what could he do?
Trump could hardly order a cut in US production. He might increase US strategic reserves, but not only would that generate a temporary effect, the current reserve is only 30 million barrels below the maximum capacity. Hardly enough to disrupt the market. He might also take steps to increase US consumption, such as raising CAFE standards. Which he has. But that effect will be felt more over the long term.
The only way to drive prices up significantly was to threaten the production of a nation that made a significant contribution to the world market. A contributor like Iran, which exports 2.5—3.8 million barrels a day, making it the third largest player in OPEC.
Itan has several advantages as a target. It’s not a US ally. It’s already wracked by internal instability that has world markets eyeing it warily. And best of all, Trump had a direct connection to Iran through the nuclear agreement. He could pull that cord, and watch the market go nuts.
Breaking the agreement didn’t really cost Trump much. Just the faith of every other nation on the planet, who now see that the US is willing to violate a treaty over the objections of allies and the evidence that the other party is living up to the deal. In other words, nothing that will concern his supporters.
But for Putin, Trump’s actions are mana from heaven; an undeserved bounty. Putin literally had to do nothing to see the Russian economy lifted out of the ditch where it has languished for years and restored to a position that empowers both domestic and military goals.
Putin had to do nothing … unless, of course, this is exactly why he did everything.
For Trump’s part, there seems to be no evidence that he left the Iran agreement with the goal of restoring Putin’s power. But it’s completely evident othat’s what he achieved.
Mark Summer; br A report on Russian state media sh... (show quote)

As usually your provide no link so we can read the source of your information our self.

You may have got your information from

www//Demon-Rats swamp bull shit.com

For all we know.

God bless America and President Trump
May 12, 2018 12:12:27   #
drlarrygino (a regular here)
 
Bad Bob wrote:
They ain't crying about their air being cleaner.


The air might be a tad cleaner because they really don't produce much and have no jobs. Why do you think they are all running to get into the U. S. They need jobs so they come here to pollute our country, make a lot of money in our capitalistic society instead of their socialist one, and then send the money back to Mexico without paying taxes in most cases. Bad Boob is wrong again.
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