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Hillary Wants you to be Scared of the Convention of States
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Apr 29, 2018 00:08:49   #
Sicilianthing
 
You guys need Real Time data Feeds everyday other than the Evil Fraud MSM to wake you out of your complacency, so I’m going to be ramping up the Posting of everything and everyone who is Exposing the Criminal Frauds in control of your minds...

Wake Up America you are running out of time... and Trump is not your Savior


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Candace Owens’ meteoric rise to Youtube fame can be attributed to one thing: Owens isn’t afraid to speak the truth.

As a young African-American woman, she dared to go against societal expectations and use her platform to fight for liberty and limited government.

Now she’s leveraging her influence to support another cause, and she’s not afraid to call out those who seek to deceive the American people about the Article V solution.

"As the truth gets out to more Americans, they will realize that the Convention of States is only dangerous to the ruling elite and swamp dwellers in Washington," Owens said. "There is nothing less radical than using the Constitution to save the country and empower citizens to fight back. Thank goodness our Founders foresaw the potential for federal abuses, which is why they included Article V in the Constitution. Convention of States is the movement that I believe will change the course of American history."

Here is Plan B...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXSHKNSNtTQ

You should seriously Pray Plan B works because if that fails, be Very Very Afraid of Plan C !

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Apr 29, 2018 01:00:17   #
badbob85037
 
This is the only thing short of a full scale bloody revolution that will work.

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Apr 29, 2018 06:58:05   #
Idaho
 
A Convention of States carries the very real risk of coming out the other side with an entirely different form of government. You can bet the elites will pull every trick in the book, lie, cheat, extort, bully, harass and buy votes to finish the job of destroying the Republic and can the constitution.

You think the headline of this thread will scary people into supporting exactly what the elite want - legal legitimacy for overthrowing our form of government.

The constitution and the laws passed by our legislature provide the legal framework. The only issue that needs to be tackled is enforcement.

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Apr 29, 2018 10:26:27   #
Sicilianthing
 
badbob85037 wrote:
This is the only thing short of a full scale bloody revolution that will work.


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Yep Plan C is the latter

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Apr 29, 2018 10:27:21   #
Sicilianthing
 
Idaho wrote:
A Convention of States carries the very real risk of coming out the other side with an entirely different form of government. You can bet the elites will pull every trick in the book, lie, cheat, extort, bully, harass and buy votes to finish the job of destroying the Republic and can the constitution.

You think the headline of this thread will scary people into supporting exactly what the elite want - legal legitimacy for overthrowing our form of government.

The constitution and the laws passed by our legislature provide the legal framework. The only issue that needs to be tackled is enforcement.
A Convention of States carries the very real risk ... (show quote)


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Ok so what is your enforcement ?

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Apr 29, 2018 11:53:11   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Idaho wrote:
A Convention of States carries the very real risk of coming out the other side with an entirely different form of government. You can bet the elites will pull every trick in the book, lie, cheat, extort, bully, harass and buy votes to finish the job of destroying the Republic and can the constitution.

You think the headline of this thread will scary people into supporting exactly what the elite want - legal legitimacy for overthrowing our form of government.

The constitution and the laws passed by our legislature provide the legal framework. The only issue that needs to be tackled is enforcement.
A Convention of States carries the very real risk ... (show quote)


Fortunately, a convention of states does not modify the Constitution but forces Congress to consider the proposed amendments, when they would not ordinarily do so. This still leaves the same rules for modification in place and should the outcome of such a convention be too great a distortion we can always resort to the usual means of pressuring congressmen to vote on the proposals the way we want them to be.

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Apr 29, 2018 11:58:10   #
Sicilianthing
 
pafret wrote:
Fortunately, a convention of states does not modify the Constitution but forces Congress to consider the proposed amendments, when they would not ordinarily do so. This still leaves the same rules for modification in place and should the outcome of such a convention be too great a distortion we can always resort to the usual means of pressuring congressmen to vote on the proposals the way we want them to be.


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Uhhhh well NO not in this case...

because the First Order of Business in this Act will be the Unanimous Vote by all the Elected Representatives in this Article V to remove all the sitting members of Congress et al., back to their states, closing their D.C. offices...

Do you see what comes next ?

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Apr 29, 2018 12:04:49   #
Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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Uhhhh well NO not in this case...

because the First Order of Business in this Act will be the Unanimous Vote by all the Elected Representatives in this Article V to remove all the sitting members of Congress et al., back to their states, closing their D.C. offices...

Not gonna happen...too many big money boys support the CoS and the ConCon. Soros/Koch Bro's not going
to kick out their shills/blackmailed minions... I did my research and so did you.

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Apr 29, 2018 12:08:08   #
Sicilianthing
 
11r20 wrote:
Not gonna happen...too many big money boys support the CoS and the ConCon. Soros/Koch Bro's not going
to kick out their shills/blackmailed minions... I did my research and so did you.


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Then we agree that’s where the fight will begin.
Plan C militia will be standing by to enforce the Vote.

Those above will LOSE this round and the Notices to Vacate will begin... know this.

Also the entire thing will be invalid if any BAR Attorneys participate in it’s process as acting officials.
BAR Attorneys are in violation of exercising this Tool for the Replublic since they are bound by Oaths and Federalists charter for the Crown.

Most people don’t understand how this works.

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Apr 29, 2018 16:12:14   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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Uhhhh well NO not in this case...

because the First Order of Business in this Act will be the Unanimous Vote by all the Elected Representatives in this Article V to remove all the sitting members of Congress et al., back to their states, closing their D.C. offices...

Do you see what comes next ?


The convention of states has no such power. None of what the conventions decide is the agenda, has to be adopted and the very forcing of the Congress into Constitutional Revision Session might provide the opportunity for them to impose other undesirable amendments.

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Apr 29, 2018 18:24:40   #
Sicilianthing
 
pafret wrote:
The convention of states has no such power. None of what the conventions decide is the agenda, has to be adopted and the very forcing of the Congress into Constitutional Revision Session might provide the opportunity for them to impose other undesirable amendments.


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You are part right and part wrong and I partly agree with you in this partial scenario... you see this process will exercise a whole lot more than what you state, it’s the part of the redress of Grievances where we have the constitutional right to remove a gov’t that no longer serves the people.

Then it gets ugly.

Yes very risky and I’ll take my chances since Trump is compromised already.

What say you ? Keep the status quo ?

ha.... c’mon

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Apr 29, 2018 23:30:26   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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You are part right and part wrong and I partly agree with you in this partial scenario... you see this process will exercise a whole lot more than what you state, it’s the part of the redress of Grievances where we have the constitutional right to remove a gov’t that no longer serves the people.

Then it gets ugly.

Yes very risky and I’ll take my chances since Trump is compromised already.

What say you ? Keep the status quo ?

ha.... c’mon


That Constitutional right entails armed insurrection. This is why the founders put the Second amendment into the Bill of Rights. You don't just walk in and say "Everybody out of the pool". Your sovereign citizen, fake judge and ersatz courts count only if there is a gun backing their rulings. Even Chairman Mao recognized that "Power comes from the barrel of a gun".

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Apr 30, 2018 06:25:44   #
samtheyank
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
You guys need Real Time data Feeds everyday other than the Evil Fraud MSM to wake you out of your complacency, so I’m going to be ramping up the Posting of everything and everyone who is Exposing the Criminal Frauds in control of your minds...

Wake Up America you are running out of time... and Trump is not your Savior


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Candace Owens’ meteoric rise to Youtube fame can be attributed to one thing: Owens isn’t afraid to speak the truth.

As a young African-American woman, she dared to go against societal expectations and use her platform to fight for liberty and limited government.

Now she’s leveraging her influence to support another cause, and she’s not afraid to call out those who seek to deceive the American people about the Article V solution.

"As the truth gets out to more Americans, they will realize that the Convention of States is only dangerous to the ruling elite and swamp dwellers in Washington," Owens said. "There is nothing less radical than using the Constitution to save the country and empower citizens to fight back. Thank goodness our Founders foresaw the potential for federal abuses, which is why they included Article V in the Constitution. Convention of States is the movement that I believe will change the course of American history."

Here is Plan B...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXSHKNSNtTQ

You should seriously Pray Plan B works because if that fails, be Very Very Afraid of Plan C !
You guys need Real Time data Feeds everyday other ... (show quote)


Sic,

I have been fighting for this approach for about ten years. This is the only method I know that will take the power from the elites in Washington and return it to the People. When I first realized how this could be done, I heard so many scare stories you would not believe it. All the power resides with the People and the States. It will take three-fourths of the states to amend the Constitution before it becomes law. I would like to see the following:

01. Balance Budget Amendment

02. Term Limits for the Senate and The House of Representatives.

03. Term Limits for the Supreme Court. A minimum age and a maximum age for every
Justice that is appointed and confirmed to sit on the Bench. When the SCOTUS makes
a ruling that violates the Constitution or is not the will of the People, the states or the
People can null-and-void that ruling. It should not be easy or next to impossible. The
Supreme Court has way too much power for nine men/women.

04. A right-to-life amendment.

05. A freedom of religion amendment limiting the Government’s involvement in and the
free exercise there of.

06. An amendment to define who can vote and not vote in Federal and state elections
etc.

I have no doubt there are other areas that need to be addressed in our nation. This is something we need to do as a People asap. The first three words of the Constitution which is We The People. It is high time those Assholes in Washington remembered that.

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Apr 30, 2018 08:07:59   #
Sicilianthing
 
pafret wrote:
That Constitutional right entails armed insurrection. This is why the founders put the Second amendment into the Bill of Rights. You don't just walk in and say "Everybody out of the pool". Your sovereign citizen, fake judge and ersatz courts count only if there is a gun backing their rulings. Even Chairman Mao recognized that "Power comes from the barrel of a gun".


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Agreed

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Apr 30, 2018 08:09:09   #
Sicilianthing
 
samtheyank wrote:
Sic,

I have been fighting for this approach for about ten years. This is the only method I know that will take the power from the elites in Washington and return it to the People. When I first realized how this could be done, I heard so many scare stories you would not believe it. All the power resides with the People and the States. It will take three-fourths of the states to amend the Constitution before it becomes law. I would like to see the following:

01. Balance Budget Amendment

02. Term Limits for the Senate and The House of Representatives.

03. Term Limits for the Supreme Court. A minimum age and a maximum age for every
Justice that is appointed and confirmed to sit on the Bench. When the SCOTUS makes
a ruling that violates the Constitution or is not the will of the People, the states or the
People can null-and-void that ruling. It should not be easy or next to impossible. The
Supreme Court has way too much power for nine men/women.

04. A right-to-life amendment.

05. A freedom of religion amendment limiting the Government’s involvement in and the
free exercise there of.

06. An amendment to define who can vote and not vote in Federal and state elections
etc.

I have no doubt there are other areas that need to be addressed in our nation. This is something we need to do as a People asap. The first three words of the Constitution which is We The People. It is high time those Assholes in Washington remembered that.
Sic, br br I have been fighting for this approach... (show quote)


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Agreed but it’s very dangerous and could go sideways, also the Citizens need to activate into Militias and Form Camps... this is Plan C if the above fails.

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