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Apr 24, 2018 14:11:01   #
Marsinah
 
Another nail in your coffin, Feith.

T. E. Lawrence (you know him as Lawrence of Arabia) in "The Seven Pillars of Wisdom"---his memories of the Arab Revolt (without which there could probably never have been a state of Israel, had the region remained subject to the Ottoman's) and his part in it, mentioned the "joy-shooting" of the Arabs of the Hejaz: that celebratory shooting into the air that Arab men are wont to do when they are happy---a sort of informal 21 gun salute.

From "The Seven Pillars of Wisdom":

"Feisal [King Faisal I of Iraq], within, laboured day and night at his politics, in which so few of us could help. Outside, the crowd employed and diverted us with parades, joy-shooting, and marches of victory. Also there were accidents. Once a group, playing behind our tents, set off a seaplane bomb, dud relic of Boyle's capture of ..."

"I hurried down to where General Barrow was inspecting outposts in a car.
I told him we had spent the night in the town, and the shooting he heard was joy-firing. He was short with me; but I had little pity for him..."

Any person dealing with the people of the Middle East region would know that; any person that is, that is neither neo-con, nor one educated at any American university.

And Iraqis today do the same, Dougie, at weddings, or like celebrations.

Yet many of these "joy-shooters", men innocent of ANY wrong-doing, were imprisoned and tortured at Abu Ghraib, most likely at your request.

And by the way, I was informed of this atrocity by one who was there.

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Apr 24, 2018 14:12:17   #
Marsinah
 
More quotes from "The Seven Pillars of Wisdom":

“There was among the tribes in the fighting zone a nervous enthusiasm common, I suppose, to all national risings, but strangely disquieting to one from a land so long delivered that national freedom had become like the water in our mouths, tasteless.”
― T.E.Lawrence, Seven Pillars of Wisdom

“I was unable to take the professional view that all successful actions were gains. Our rebels were not materials, like soldiers, but friends of ours, trusting our leadership. We were not in command nationally, but by invitation; and our men were volunteers, individuals, local men, relatives, so that a death was a personal sorrow to many in the army. Even from a purely military point of view the assault seemed to me a blunder.”
― T.E.Lawrence, Seven Pillars of Wisdom

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Apr 24, 2018 15:58:38   #
Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas
 
Marsinah wrote:
Another nail in your coffin, Feith.

T. E. Lawrence (you know him as Lawrence of Arabia) in "The Seven Pillars of Wisdom"---his memories of the Arab Revolt (without which there could probably never have been a state of Israel, had the region remained subject to the Ottoman's) and his part in it, mentioned the "joy-shooting" of the Arabs of the Hejaz: that celebratory shooting into the air that Arab men are wont to do when they are happy---a sort of informal 21 gun salute.

From "The Seven Pillars of Wisdom":

"Feisal [King Faisal I of Iraq], within, laboured day and night at his politics, in which so few of us could help. Outside, the crowd employed and diverted us with parades, joy-shooting, and marches of victory. Also there were accidents. Once a group, playing behind our tents, set off a seaplane bomb, dud relic of Boyle's capture of ..."

"I hurried down to where General Barrow was inspecting outposts in a car.
I told him we had spent the night in the town, and the shooting he heard was joy-firing. He was short with me; but I had little pity for him..."

Any person dealing with the people of the Middle East region would know that; any person that is, that is neither neo-con, nor one educated at any American university.

And Iraqis today do the same, Dougie, at weddings, or like celebrations.

Yet many of these "joy-shooters", men innocent of ANY wrong-doing, were imprisoned and tortured at Abu Ghraib, most likely at your request.

And by the way, I was informed of this atrocity by one who was there.
Another nail in your coffin, Feith. br br T. E. L... (show quote)


Would you be interested in an all expense paid vacation .

We can cruise you down to GITMO where we have a luxury suite reserved for you.

You will have a bevy of sand gofers there to keep you company.

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Apr 24, 2018 16:00:45   #
bahmer
 
Marsinah wrote:
Another nail in your coffin, Feith.

T. E. Lawrence (you know him as Lawrence of Arabia) in "The Seven Pillars of Wisdom"---his memories of the Arab Revolt (without which there could probably never have been a state of Israel, had the region remained subject to the Ottoman's) and his part in it, mentioned the "joy-shooting" of the Arabs of the Hejaz: that celebratory shooting into the air that Arab men are wont to do when they are happy---a sort of informal 21 gun salute.

From "The Seven Pillars of Wisdom":

"Feisal [King Faisal I of Iraq], within, laboured day and night at his politics, in which so few of us could help. Outside, the crowd employed and diverted us with parades, joy-shooting, and marches of victory. Also there were accidents. Once a group, playing behind our tents, set off a seaplane bomb, dud relic of Boyle's capture of ..."

"I hurried down to where General Barrow was inspecting outposts in a car.
I told him we had spent the night in the town, and the shooting he heard was joy-firing. He was short with me; but I had little pity for him..."

Any person dealing with the people of the Middle East region would know that; any person that is, that is neither neo-con, nor one educated at any American university.

And Iraqis today do the same, Dougie, at weddings, or like celebrations.

Yet many of these "joy-shooters", men innocent of ANY wrong-doing, were imprisoned and tortured at Abu Ghraib, most likely at your request.

And by the way, I was informed of this atrocity by one who was there.
Another nail in your coffin, Feith. br br T. E. L... (show quote)


KiraSeer the muslim I see or is it Russian today.

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Apr 24, 2018 16:34:41   #
Marsinah
 
Wolf counselor wrote:
Would you be interested in an all expense paid vacation .

We can cruise you down to GITMO where we have a luxury suite reserved for you.

You will have a bevy of sand gofers there to keep you company.


You, my dear, will be lucky if you survive. Do you understand "seer"? Obviously not. You are so full of paranoid thoughts and perceptions because for the first time in your young life you are finding out that America is not the "good guy" and the rest of the world "the bad guy". Not such a good feeling, is it?

Either that, or you doing a hell of a job trolling for the psychopath, Douglas Feith. Maybe so, 'cause he's getting closer and closer to the "Endgame".

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Apr 24, 2018 16:36:05   #
Marsinah
 
bahmer wrote:
KiraSeer the muslim I see or is it Russian today.


Read my post to wolfie. And then the both of you are out of here...I don't have time for your childish, even psychopathic, thoughts.

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Apr 24, 2018 16:43:58   #
Marsinah
 
As I said, just another nail in your coffin, Dougie:
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/assessment/2004/05/douglas_feith.html

"Start with Abu Ghraib. Feith's office was in charge of Iraq's military prisons, but that's not the only reason his name keeps turning up in newspaper reports about the scandal. It was Feith who devised the legal solution for getting around the Geneva Conventions' prohibition on physically or psychologically coercing prisoners of war into talking. As a Pentagon official in the 1980s, Feith had laid out the argument that terrorists didn't deserve protection under the Geneva Conventions. Once the war on terrorism started, all he had to do was implement it. And even more damning than his legal rule-making is Feith's reported reaction to complaints by military Judge Advocate General lawyers about the new, looser interrogation rules. "They said he had a dismissive, if not derisive, attitude toward the Geneva Conventions," Scott Horton, a lawyer who was approached by six outraged JAG officers last year, told the Chicago Tribune. "One of them said he calls it 'law in the service of terror.' "

Soon I will be telling you why those prisoners, innocent until proven guilty anyway, were REALLY tortured.

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Apr 24, 2018 16:47:17   #
Marsinah
 
Look again, Dougie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZpVk3uHKc4

Iraqi Wedding Celebration

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Apr 24, 2018 16:49:16   #
Marsinah
 
And then again, Dougie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJEO3rmefmI

Arab Wedding Celebration With Guns

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Apr 24, 2018 16:50:43   #
Marsinah
 
Joy-shooting, joy-firing, joy-bullets, joy-shots.

Why were they imprisoned and tortured?

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Apr 24, 2018 17:06:57   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Marsinah wrote:
because for the first time in your young life you are finding out that America is not the "good guy" and the rest of the world "the bad guy".
Ah, yes, where have we heard this tale before? Decades of it, written in the textbooks, taught from kindergarten to PhD.

America, the land of the gallows tree and the home of the slave. America, founded by a bunch of old white bigots, America the Terrible, American the world's only thug nation. America, the global cop, America, the enforcer.

A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

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Apr 25, 2018 13:26:31   #
Marsinah
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Ah, yes, where have we heard this tale before? Decades of it, written in the textbooks, taught from kindergarten to PhD.

America, the land of the gallows tree and the home of the slave. America, founded by a bunch of old white bigots, America the Terrible, American the world's only thug nation. America, the global cop, America, the enforcer.

A tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.


Do you possibly believe that I, or anyone, take you, and the other neo-cons, who are so obviously trying to save their Judeo-Christian skins, seriously?

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Apr 25, 2018 19:49:42   #
teabag09
 
If you don't have the time, quit posting and go somewhere where you'll be appreciated. You're not here. Mike
Marsinah wrote:
Read my post to wolfie. And then the both of you are out of here...I don't have time for your childish, even psychopathic, thoughts.

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Apr 26, 2018 12:13:31   #
Marsinah
 
teabag09 wrote:
If you don't have the time, quit posting and go somewhere where you'll be appreciated. You're not here. Mike


And where is "here", Mike? When you can answer that, you (and America) may be on the road to full International citizenship.

God has said, Mike: "It is not just that some are hurt that grieve and offend Us; it is that others choose to hurt them."

So where are you, Mike, on the "hurt" scale? Are you one who was hurt, or are you one who has hurt?

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Apr 26, 2018 12:22:50   #
Marsinah
 
Interesting how the mental midgits on this topic attempt to get around the actual substance of the topic.

And they most likely think that it works.

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