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Apr 22, 2018 22:58:03   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
How many times are lives saved right here in the good old US by people who own guns because of the 2nd Amendment? I have to wonder how many invisible, because of the media reporting, are kept that way to keep us from knowing. The CDC says that from 500,000 to 3,000,000 incidents of armed people going against armed criminals saves lives. I guess the only numbers they will ever show in the media are when multiple people are killed as in our "mass" murders. It is so obvious by the reporting of the media that the left has to get that kind of reporting in order to beat down the 2nd Amendment. However, it seems that they are frightened as hell that they can't get it done and I don't think they will ever make it happen.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/04/the_invisible_victims_of_gun_control.html#ixzz5Ctxx0ZXy

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Apr 23, 2018 05:51:35   #
PeterS
 
oldroy wrote:
How many times are lives saved right here in the good old US by people who own guns because of the 2nd Amendment? I have to wonder how many invisible, because of the media reporting, are kept that way to keep us from knowing. The CDC says that from 500,000 to 3,000,000 incidents of armed people going against armed criminals saves lives. I guess the only numbers they will ever show in the media are when multiple people are killed as in our "mass" murders. It is so obvious by the reporting of the media that the left has to get that kind of reporting in order to beat down the 2nd Amendment. However, it seems that they are frightened as hell that they can't get it done and I don't think they will ever make it happen.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/04/the_invisible_victims_of_gun_control.html#ixzz5Ctxx0ZXy
How many times are lives saved right here in the g... (show quote)

Didn't the Supreme Court rule that we have a right to use a gun in self defense? I have a friend who shot a rapist 6 times before he dropped. Good riddance. I love the slipper slope you people live on where the end of the AR-15 equates to the end of all guns...

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Apr 23, 2018 07:57:07   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
PeterS wrote:
Didn't the Supreme Court rule that we have a right to use a gun in self defense? I have a friend who shot a rapist 6 times before he dropped. Good riddance. I love the slipper slope you people live on where the end of the AR-15 equates to the end of all guns...



Pete, your hoped-for end to the AR-15, et al, would equate to law-abiding citizens defending themselves with handguns, conventional arms etc, against criminals with semi-auto weapons who will never turn them in or stop producing them. Why can't you guys see that?

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Apr 23, 2018 08:03:04   #
cold iron Loc: White House
 
PeterS wrote:
Didn't the Supreme Court rule that we have a right to use a gun in self defense? I have a friend who shot a rapist 6 times before he dropped. Good riddance. I love the slipper slope you people live on where the end of the AR-15 equates to the end of all guns...


Your signature says it all.."When fascism comes to America it will come wrapped in a flag and holding a bible." Your warped boy.

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Apr 23, 2018 08:12:36   #
Gatsby
 
Your friend is very fortunate that there was only one rapist, and that he didn't have a gun himself.

Robert Ruark said it best, "use enough gun"!

Also, citizens of the U.K. and Australia do NOT have the right to use a firearm to defend themselves, or their family!

PeterS wrote:
Didn't the Supreme Court rule that we have a right to use a gun in self defense? I have a friend who shot a rapist 6 times before he dropped. Good riddance. I love the slipper slope you people live on where the end of the AR-15 equates to the end of all guns...

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Apr 23, 2018 08:28:50   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
bylm1 wrote:
Pete, your hoped-for end to the AR-15, et al, would equate to law-abiding citizens defending themselves with handguns, conventional arms etc, against criminals with semi-auto weapons who will never turn them in or stop producing them. Why can't you guys see that?


The criminal element wants the citizens unarmed so they can rob and steal with out being blown away by someone who decides to keep his money or defend his home.

It will never happen in our lifetime guaranteed

Semper Fi brother
God bless America and President Trump

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Apr 23, 2018 08:53:18   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
oldroy wrote:
How many times are lives saved right here in the good old US by people who own guns because of the 2nd Amendment? I have to wonder how many invisible, because of the media reporting, are kept that way to keep us from knowing. The CDC says that from 500,000 to 3,000,000 incidents of armed people going against armed criminals saves lives. I guess the only numbers they will ever show in the media are when multiple people are killed as in our "mass" murders. It is so obvious by the reporting of the media that the left has to get that kind of reporting in order to beat down the 2nd Amendment. However, it seems that they are frightened as hell that they can't get it done and I don't think they will ever make it happen.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/04/the_invisible_victims_of_gun_control.html#ixzz5Ctxx0ZXy
How many times are lives saved right here in the g... (show quote)



roy,

The gun situation will never become easy..

This even in Memphis, has so many ways to twist it, we could go on all day..

A true nut case with extensive back ground, naked other then a jacket to carry magazines.. With an AR-15, killed only 4 people in a waffle house.

Thanks to a black unarmed man who tackled the shooter and wrenched the rifle away.. The good guy without a gun, overcame the bad guy with a gun and saved a proble much higher number of victems.

Huge kudos to the unarmed man.. maybe even trump will mention him in a few days..

A very brave and desperate man..



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Apr 23, 2018 09:20:57   #
cold iron Loc: White House
 
permafrost wrote:
roy,

The gun situation will never become easy..

This even in Memphis, has so many ways to twist it, we could go on all day..

A true nut case with extensive back ground, naked other then a jacket to carry magazines.. With an AR-15, killed only 4 people in a waffle house.

Thanks to a black unarmed man who tackled the shooter and wrenched the rifle away.. The good guy without a gun, overcame the bad guy with a gun and saved a proble much higher number of victems.

Huge kudos to the unarmed man.. maybe even trump will mention him in a few days..

A very brave and desperate man..
roy, br br The gun situation will never become ea... (show quote)



Whats the point, the MSM will twist whatever he says, so I think he is right.

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Apr 23, 2018 09:26:17   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
No it doesn't. Just another step in that direction troll.
PeterS wrote:
Didn't the Supreme Court rule that we have a right to use a gun in self defense? I have a friend who shot a rapist 6 times before he dropped. Good riddance. I love the slipper slope you people live on where the end of the AR-15 equates to the end of all guns...

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Apr 23, 2018 09:29:19   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
What's him being black have to do with it? You lib's can't help yourselves. Everything must have a racial component. How about he's a brave American Hero that did what needed to be done? By the way, you do know the police in Illinois had confiscated his weapons and given them to his dad? Still trying to figure that one out.
permafrost wrote:
roy,

The gun situation will never become easy..

This even in Memphis, has so many ways to twist it, we could go on all day..

A true nut case with extensive back ground, naked other then a jacket to carry magazines.. With an AR-15, killed only 4 people in a waffle house.

Thanks to a black unarmed man who tackled the shooter and wrenched the rifle away.. The good guy without a gun, overcame the bad guy with a gun and saved a proble much higher number of victems.

Huge kudos to the unarmed man.. maybe even trump will mention him in a few days..

A very brave and desperate man..
roy, br br The gun situation will never become ea... (show quote)

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Apr 23, 2018 09:47:14   #
Gatsby
 
And what about that dad? He transferred possession of four firearms to a person he knew to be prohibited from possessing them!
Why has there been no mention of "investigation" of that allegation? No mention of pending charges or arrests.
Not even a mention of those law violations, only of the AR used to commit the crimes!
The msm never wants to report on facts that are "un-helpfull", in their attempts to "shape public opinion"!
Should not father and son share a prison cell, for the rest of their natural lives?

JFlorio wrote:
What's him being black have to do with it? You lib's can't help yourselves. Everything must have a racial component. How about he's a brave American Hero that did what needed to be done? By the way, you do know the police in Illinois had confiscated his weapons and given them to his dad? Still trying to figure that one out.

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Apr 23, 2018 10:10:22   #
Esley
 
Gatsby wrote:
And what about that dad? He transferred possession of four firearms to a person he knew to be prohibited from possessing them!
Why has there been no mention of "investigation" of that allegation? No mention of pending charges or arrests.
Not even a mention of those law violations, only of the AR used to commit the crimes!
The msm never wants to report on facts that are "un-helpfull", in their attempts to "shape public opinion"!
Should not father and son share a prison cell, for the rest of their natural lives?
And what about that dad? He transferred possessio... (show quote)


The father is just as guilty as the shooter. My opinion.

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Apr 23, 2018 10:16:09   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
JFlorio wrote:
What's him being black have to do with it? You lib's can't help yourselves. Everything must have a racial component. How about he's a brave American Hero that did what needed to be done? By the way, you do know the police in Illinois had confiscated his weapons and given them to his dad? Still trying to figure that one out.




J,

It is worth pointing out that the unarmed hero is black..

On OPP, time after time, posters go to the effort of pointing out that a law braker is black..

Now you complain that I take the keystrokes to point out a hero is black??

Will you accuse me of calling all black people to be heroic because of this one example?

When the example is criminal, you have no problem putting that label on all other black people..

If it is fair to point out the bad blacks, does that mean it is not fair to point out the good black?



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Apr 23, 2018 10:47:37   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Frankly it never occurred to me to wonder what color he was when I heard the report on the radio. Truthfully the black criminal is a problem. We can argue all day about the reasons, cultural, education, single mom, what ever. There is a problem in the black community, no one will admit this more readily that a black person. Finding the exact reason why is the debate.
permafrost wrote:
J,

It is worth pointing out that the unarmed hero is black..

On OPP, time after time, posters go to the effort of pointing out that a law braker is black..

Now you complain that I take the keystrokes to point out a hero is black??

Will you accuse me of calling all black people to be heroic because of this one example?

When the example is criminal, you have no problem putting that label on all other black people..

If it is fair to point out the bad blacks, does that mean it is not fair to point out the good black?
J, br br It is worth pointing out that the unarme... (show quote)

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Apr 23, 2018 11:04:31   #
Gatsby
 
Following your arguement on gun control, do you suggest outlawing "sober guys with cars"?

Or perhaps just limiting the size and power of cars that "sober guys" can possess?

permafrost wrote:
J,

It is worth pointing out that the unarmed hero is black..

On OPP, time after time, posters go to the effort of pointing out that a law braker is black..

Now you complain that I take the keystrokes to point out a hero is black??

Will you accuse me of calling all black people to be heroic because of this one example?

When the example is criminal, you have no problem putting that label on all other black people..

If it is fair to point out the bad blacks, does that mean it is not fair to point out the good black?
J, br br It is worth pointing out that the unarme... (show quote)

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