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Apr 21, 2018 15:26:58   #
rumitoid
 
To see Republicans and Democrats not only in the same room together but sitting in the same aisle together with a common cause and acting like family was unexpectedly overwhelming. I was quite frankly stunned by my reaction to that sight. This was America as I had always seen it. Two parties with differences not allowing those differences to keep them from civility, care and respect for each other. Hope flared...briefly. Coming down fast and hard to the ugly divisiveness that is today's reality of our bicameral system was really upsetting. Time for self-examination. Again. What was I doing recently at least not to add to this situation? Not much, if anything.

Just as a description and not as an excuse, my center of gravity sometimes shift over what I see as repeated and dangerous policies or actions by the Right and I get smug, self-righteous for the Left. I feel thoroughly justified. And I may go on like that for an inexcusable amount of time. Then I snap, like I did today. I am not saying that I am cured of being an obnoxious a**hole at times. Yet maybe for a few weeks I will be more temperate in what I say. More willing to be more questioning than accusing. But my problem, that I cannot overcome, is the time-tested and proven rotten character of Trump. A real quandary for me. How not to focus on it?

My answer is to stick to the common welfare of Americans, and avoid any attacks on Trump directly. If he allegedly lies or misrepresents facts, simply give the facts as best I know them without commentary on the president's response. In other words, give Trump the respect and civility the office deserves. (I stopped using the disrespectful "tRump" long ago out of that concern.)

These confessions seem to come about every three months, yet that is not a point in my favor; it is regrettable.

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Apr 21, 2018 21:18:22   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
rumitoid wrote:
To see Republicans and Democrats not only in the same room together but sitting in the same aisle together with a common cause and acting like family was unexpectedly overwhelming. I was quite frankly stunned by my reaction to that sight. This was America as I had always seen it. Two parties with differences not allowing those differences to keep them from civility, care and respect for each other. Hope flared...briefly. Coming down fast and hard to the ugly divisiveness that is today's reality of our bicameral system was really upsetting. Time for self-examination. Again. What was I doing recently at least not to add to this situation? Not much, if anything.

Just as a description and not as an excuse, my center of gravity sometimes shift over what I see as repeated and dangerous policies or actions by the Right and I get smug, self-righteous for the Left. I feel thoroughly justified. And I may go on like that for an inexcusable amount of time. Then I snap, like I did today. I am not saying that I am cured of being an obnoxious a**hole at times. Yet maybe for a few weeks I will be more temperate in what I say. More willing to be more questioning than accusing. But my problem, that I cannot overcome, is the time-tested and proven rotten character of Trump. A real quandary for me. How not to focus on it?

My answer is to stick to the common welfare of Americans, and avoid any attacks on Trump directly. If he allegedly lies or misrepresents facts, simply give the facts as best I know them without commentary on the president's response. In other words, give Trump the respect and civility the office deserves. (I stopped using the disrespectful "tRump" long ago out of that concern.)

These confessions seem to come about every three months, yet that is not a point in my favor; it is regrettable.
To see Republicans and Democrats not only in the s... (show quote)



Your attempt to be more temperate and less of an A-hole turned out to be as useless as your confessions!!!!! A whole 3 hrs!!!!




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Apr 21, 2018 21:58:22   #
PLT Sarge Loc: Alabama
 
I'm going to take one sentence in your post. "How not to focus on it". Maybe that should be the start. Everything that is wrong in this country is not President Trump's fault. Its congress and we the people that keep electing them that are there not for us, but for themselves. Let's focus on that. Lets talk about the richest most blessed country and we have children going to bed hungry, some scared that they will be shot in their sleep by gang drive by. Lets focus on that. How about the homeless ? There has to be something that both sides can agree on to help these people. Lets focus on that. Lets focus on schools once again be for learning and not just for babysitting. There are so many things that are F*cked up in this country. Things that can be fixed if people will get over themselves, their party and just work together as Americans. It has to start at the grassroots. If a person is looking for dialog here on OPP, which is starting to be a joke. Because most all posts are vile and hateful. That person needs to open with a statement, without hate and insults. Present their opinion and be willing to accept differing opinions. This is called dialog. Conversation. Working for a solution instead of spreading more discord.
rumitoid wrote:
To see Republicans and Democrats not only in the same room together but sitting in the same aisle together with a common cause and acting like family was unexpectedly overwhelming. I was quite frankly stunned by my reaction to that sight. This was America as I had always seen it. Two parties with differences not allowing those differences to keep them from civility, care and respect for each other. Hope flared...briefly. Coming down fast and hard to the ugly divisiveness that is today's reality of our bicameral system was really upsetting. Time for self-examination. Again. What was I doing recently at least not to add to this situation? Not much, if anything.

Just as a description and not as an excuse, my center of gravity sometimes shift over what I see as repeated and dangerous policies or actions by the Right and I get smug, self-righteous for the Left. I feel thoroughly justified. And I may go on like that for an inexcusable amount of time. Then I snap, like I did today. I am not saying that I am cured of being an obnoxious a**hole at times. Yet maybe for a few weeks I will be more temperate in what I say. More willing to be more questioning than accusing. But my problem, that I cannot overcome, is the time-tested and proven rotten character of Trump. A real quandary for me. How not to focus on it?

My answer is to stick to the common welfare of Americans, and avoid any attacks on Trump directly. If he allegedly lies or misrepresents facts, simply give the facts as best I know them without commentary on the president's response. In other words, give Trump the respect and civility the office deserves. (I stopped using the disrespectful "tRump" long ago out of that concern.)

These confessions seem to come about every three months, yet that is not a point in my favor; it is regrettable.
To see Republicans and Democrats not only in the s... (show quote)

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Apr 22, 2018 02:46:27   #
rumitoid
 
TexaCan wrote:
Your attempt to be more temperate and less of an A-hole turned out to be as useless as your confessions!!!!! A whole 3 hrs!!!!

Troll. Add something or crawl back in your hole. You never have anything substantive to say. Just obsessed with stalking me.

Your attempt to be more temperate and less of an A... (show quote)

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Apr 22, 2018 03:05:54   #
rumitoid
 
PLT Sarge wrote:
I'm going to take one sentence in your post. "How not to focus on it". Maybe that should be the start. Everything that is wrong in this country is not President Trump's fault. Its congress and we the people that keep electing them that are there not for us, but for themselves. Let's focus on that. Lets talk about the richest most blessed country and we have children going to bed hungry, some scared that they will be shot in their sleep by gang drive by. Lets focus on that. How about the homeless ? There has to be something that both sides can agree on to help these people. Lets focus on that. Lets focus on schools once again be for learning and not just for babysitting. There are so many things that are F*cked up in this country. Things that can be fixed if people will get over themselves, their party and just work together as Americans. It has to start at the grassroots. If a person is looking for dialog here on OPP, which is starting to be a joke. Because most all posts are vile and hateful. That person needs to open with a statement, without hate and insults. Present their opinion and be willing to accept differing opinions. This is called dialog. Conversation. Working for a solution instead of spreading more discord.
I'm going to take one sentence in your post. "... (show quote)


Of course. Any attempt at meaningful dialog, I have always responded in kind. Differing opinions have never bothered me or caused me to attack. My intent in every post I make is to illicit a reasonable argument for or against what I said, with the exceptions of my revelations, not attacks, on Trump. No one can argue successfully for his character. He is a low life and that will never change. Yes, his style is a somewhat refreshing change to politics as usual, but he is at heart a corrupt and dangerous person. Scum, in a word. My astonishment that he has supporters is real and not political.

My focus has always been my love of this country. Care for "the least of these" primary. You rarely give me dialog. Like Texacan, the usual is insult. Thank you for the change.

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Apr 22, 2018 03:10:31   #
rumitoid
 
Texacan, you are Troll. You stalk me to insult and never add anything to the topic. Why am I so important to you? Get a life!

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Apr 22, 2018 19:31:25   #
PLT Sarge Loc: Alabama
 
True I can not argue for his character. I know that he is flawed as we all are. How can I throw the first stone, the things I have done in my life and the things I've been ordered to do in combat. It's not so much what you say, but how you say it that pisses me and others off. All I ask is for America, Left and Right, at least give him a chance. Let's see what happens. If he f&cks it up, I'll be right beside you raising hell. From your past posts I have read into that you do love your country. So lets work together left and right to bring this country together, regardless of who may be President or what Party is control at the time. Because the real problem is not between my views or your views. The real problem is the governments views, both parties, and our common citizen view.
rumitoid wrote:
Of course. Any attempt at meaningful dialog, I have always responded in kind. Differing opinions have never bothered me or caused me to attack. My intent in every post I make is to illicit a reasonable argument for or against what I said, with the exceptions of my revelations, not attacks, on Trump. No one can argue successfully for his character. He is a low life and that will never change. Yes, his style is a somewhat refreshing change to politics as usual, but he is at heart a corrupt and dangerous person. Scum, in a word. My astonishment that he has supporters is real and not political.

My focus has always been my love of this country. Care for "the least of these" primary. You rarely give me dialog. Like Texacan, the usual is insult. Thank you for the change.
Of course. Any attempt at meaningful dialog, I hav... (show quote)

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Apr 25, 2018 01:18:10   #
rumitoid
 
PLT Sarge wrote:
True I can not argue for his character. I know that he is flawed as we all are. How can I throw the first stone, the things I have done in my life and the things I've been ordered to do in combat. It's not so much what you say, but how you say it that pisses me and others off. All I ask is for America, Left and Right, at least give him a chance. Let's see what happens. If he f&cks it up, I'll be right beside you raising hell. From your past posts I have read into that you do love your country. So lets work together left and right to bring this country together, regardless of who may be President or what Party is control at the time. Because the real problem is not between my views or your views. The real problem is the governments views, both parties, and our common citizen view.
True I can not argue for his character. I know tha... (show quote)


You really need to see the full history of Trump.

Yes, I love my country or I would not be here for all the abuse I get. You are a good man. I get that point. Sorry we banged heads. Working together to bring this country together is my dream and highest ambition. I would be honored to join hands.

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