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Restoring Bible Truth
Apr 18, 2018 07:53:46   #
Alan Finch
 
Restoring Bible Truth which proclaims to us that there is no “eternal torment” in “hellfire” or “eternal annihilation,” and proclaims to us that not all Christians will rule and reign with Christ.

I became a Christina 42 years ago. After 38 years as a Christian, when I discovered the truth from God’s Written Word that the Bible does not teach that there is “eternal torment” in “hellfire” or “eternal annihilation,” it was shocking, because today’s Church teaches that there is “eternal torment” in “hellfire.”

Also, when I soon afterwards discovered in the Bible that not all Believers in Christ will rule and reign with Him, it was also shocking, because today’s Church teaches that all Believers in Christ will rule and reign with Christ.

JESUS tells us in Luke 12:46 & 47 that the servants of the Lord who have not been found to be faithful servants, will have their portion with the unbelievers, which will not be “eternal torment” in “hellfire,” because the Bible does not teach this.

The portion that the unbelievers and Believers in Christ who have been found not to be faithful servants of the Lord, will be to stand before the Great White Throne Judgement of the Lord, which the Lord will then begin the process of the refining FIRE of God’s Spirit doing a work of divine purification in them until His work has been completed in every single individual.

Satan’s number 1 goal is to deceive, and he is truly a master at deception. There is no doubt in my mind that Satan gets more pleasure in deceiving Believers in Christ than non-believers.

I have written a 22 page article on what I have just shared, which I expound upon in depth and as clearly as I can from the Scriptures. If anyone would like a copy of the article in it’s original Word Document Format, feel free to e-mail me and request a copy, and I will e-mail you a copy.

(candy33alan@aol.com)

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Apr 18, 2018 09:22:29   #
bahmer
 
Alan Finch wrote:
Restoring Bible Truth which proclaims to us that there is no “eternal torment” in “hellfire” or “eternal annihilation,” and proclaims to us that not all Christians will rule and reign with Christ.

I became a Christina 42 years ago. After 38 years as a Christian, when I discovered the truth from God’s Written Word that the Bible does not teach that there is “eternal torment” in “hellfire” or “eternal annihilation,” it was shocking, because today’s Church teaches that there is “eternal torment” in “hellfire.”

Also, when I soon afterwards discovered in the Bible that not all Believers in Christ will rule and reign with Him, it was also shocking, because today’s Church teaches that all Believers in Christ will rule and reign with Christ.

JESUS tells us in Luke 12:46 & 47 that the servants of the Lord who have not been found to be faithful servants, will have their portion with the unbelievers, which will not be “eternal torment” in “hellfire,” because the Bible does not teach this.

The portion that the unbelievers and Believers in Christ who have been found not to be faithful servants of the Lord, will be to stand before the Great White Throne Judgement of the Lord, which the Lord will then begin the process of the refining FIRE of God’s Spirit doing a work of divine purification in them until His work has been completed in every single individual.

Satan’s number 1 goal is to deceive, and he is truly a master at deception. There is no doubt in my mind that Satan gets more pleasure in deceiving Believers in Christ than non-believers.

I have written a 22 page article on what I have just shared, which I expound upon in depth and as clearly as I can from the Scriptures. If anyone would like a copy of the article in it’s original Word Document Format, feel free to e-mail me and request a copy, and I will e-mail you a copy.

(candy33alan@aol.com)
Restoring Bible Truth which proclaims to us that t... (show quote)


What is a Christina religion and where do I find out what they believe?

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Apr 19, 2018 07:04:28   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
bahmer wrote:
What is a Christina religion and where do I find out what they believe?

Don't waste your time Bahmer. If I understand what he said in his post correctly, he said that EVERYONE will eventually get to heaven (Universalism) and there is no torment in hell. Jesus himself mentioned the gnashing of teeth and the fiery furnace and outer darkness several times...

Matthew 8:12
But many Israelites—those for whom the Kingdom was prepared—will be thrown into outer darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”

Matthew 13:42
And the angels will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Matthew 13:50
...throwing the wicked into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Matthew 22:13
Then the king said to his aides, ‘Bind his hands and feet and throw him into the outer darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’

Matthew 24:51
...and he will cut the servant to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Matthew 25:30
Now throw this useless servant into outer darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’

Luke 13:28
“There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth, for you will see Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and all the prophets in the Kingdom of God, but you will be thrown out.

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Apr 19, 2018 08:14:44   #
bahmer
 
mwdegutis wrote:
Don't waste your time Bahmer. If I understand what he said in his post correctly, he said that EVERYONE will eventually get to heaven (Universalism) and there is no torment in hell. Jesus himself mentioned the gnashing of teeth and the fiery furnace and outer darkness several times...

Matthew 8:12
But many Israelites—those for whom the Kingdom was prepared—will be thrown into outer darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”

Matthew 13:42
And the angels will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Matthew 13:50
...throwing the wicked into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Matthew 22:13
Then the king said to his aides, ‘Bind his hands and feet and throw him into the outer darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’

Matthew 24:51
...and he will cut the servant to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Matthew 25:30
Now throw this useless servant into outer darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’

Luke 13:28
“There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth, for you will see Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and all the prophets in the Kingdom of God, but you will be thrown out.
Don't waste your time Bahmer. If I understand what... (show quote)


It was more of a curiosity question as I have never heard of the Christina religion. I would like to know who started it and when is all. I know the Bible teaches about hell. Thanks for the input.

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Apr 19, 2018 08:29:38   #
Alan Finch
 
In my 22 page article, I Biblically explain clearly the meaning of weeping and gnashing of teeth. This is the reason why that I have offered to e-mail anyone a copy of my article, if they e-mail me and request a copy of the article. The greatest work of God that ever was accomplished and ever will be accomplished, was the Sacrifice of Christ on the Cross for us. Today's Church does not seem to understand what was really accomplished on the Cross by JESUS for us.

In the past several weeks, I have received e-mails from people who have shared with me how much they appreciate the article and how it has answered a number of their questions. It is amazing at how many Christians do not really know the God that they serve. For 38 years as a Christian, I did not know God as nearly as well as I thought that I knew Him.

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Apr 19, 2018 16:56:21   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
mwdegutis wrote:
Don't waste your time Bahmer. If I understand what he said in his post correctly, he said that EVERYONE will eventually get to heaven (Universalism) and there is no torment in hell. Jesus himself mentioned the gnashing of teeth and the fiery furnace and outer darkness several times...

Matthew 8:12
But many Israelites—those for whom the Kingdom was prepared—will be thrown into outer darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”

Matthew 13:42
And the angels will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Matthew 13:50
...throwing the wicked into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Matthew 22:13
Then the king said to his aides, ‘Bind his hands and feet and throw him into the outer darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’

Matthew 24:51
...and he will cut the servant to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Matthew 25:30
Now throw this useless servant into outer darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’

Luke 13:28
“There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth, for you will see Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and all the prophets in the Kingdom of God, but you will be thrown out.
Don't waste your time Bahmer. If I understand what... (show quote)




Hey how goes the battle?

On another post he/she posted an email address to get a copy of the 22 page study to prove there is no hell. It's a quick read with dozens of scriptures and points that are in direct conflict with other scriptures. Yes, universalism all the way. Many scriptures twisted into a pretzel of untruths. States the elect are Christians, but the bible says they are Jewish that evangelize during the Tribulation. Ignores Luke the sixteenth chapter when the rich man begs that his brothers be warned so that they don't end up where his is.
This robs Jesus of the work on the cross and Hebrews 9:27 King James Version (KJV)
27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

I don't believe as he claims, this just came from studying the Bible. He read this and then probably studied the Bible but without understanding in scripture of who the author was talking to, how to study in context with other scripture, the understanding of what words meant in relation to the culture, society of that time and I could go on.
God is not the author of confusion and conflict of scripture with doctrine is the doctrine of demons.
Paul "if they teach a gospel other than what I taught.........." what is in his article is not the Gospel unto salvation.

I have dealt with many cults but not had previous interactions with universalism, have you?

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