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Apr 20, 2018 20:48:38   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
I'll furnish the part about the audience on their phones.
Yer boring.

That's ok... it's how most people feel about things that are over their head. Besides, I enjoy making my points, not everyone is going to understand and they don't need to... they can even be bored for all I care, because it's not for their benefit. Get it?

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Apr 20, 2018 21:09:48   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
ghostgotcha wrote:
Alas, "straightup." Why in the world would I waste my time trying to have an in-depth and meaningful debate with a arrogant buffoon like you?

You don't seem capable so I'm not sure why that's even a question.

ghostgotcha wrote:

Consider:
Arrogant people like you, tend to see themselves not just as able, but as perfect. They think they are superior to everyone else, everybody should like them, and they deserve special treatment, all the time. It’s an exaggerated mindset, which leads to exaggerated social behavior.

Behind this self-image of perfection, deep down, arrogant people are often quite insecure. Many lack self-esteem or have an inferiority complex. So acting as if they’re perfect and deserve special treatment is just an attempt to get attention and social validation, in order to compensate for their feelings of inadequacy.

We see and read the words of like-minded twits here - everyday.
br Consider: br Arrogant people like you, tend t... (show quote)

Just because you see and read doesn't mean you understand. When people understand they could either agree or debate, but when they don't... well, that's when people resort to insults. We see bratty little reactions of like-minded twits here - everyday.

ghostgotcha wrote:

Therefore:

Therefore nothing... You're "consider this" was all made up bullshit about someone who happened to piss you off, so there's no "therefore". Sorry.

ghostgotcha wrote:

I would suggest you unplug your keyboard this very moment. That way; anyone yet to read your arrogant diatribes, will be denied the opportunity to laugh aloud at you.

Oooh, really Sparky? They might laugh at me? Wow, that sounds really scary - (Hahaha) I better run and hide..! (Haha HA).

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Apr 20, 2018 21:30:08   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
kankune wrote:
Wow...you do go on and on and on and on and on and on...........

Interesting thing... every single point I made was in response to things witless brought up... So blame him.

In fact almost all of my posts are responses to right-wing rants. Maybe if you folks eased up on the bullshit, there's be less for me to respond to ;)

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Apr 20, 2018 22:21:19   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
son of witless wrote:
You said we could produce 100 % of our own oil when that obviously was false. Potential is not fact. Production all over the world finally caught up with demand in the late 80s.

We weren't talking about the 80's... Here is exactly what you said... "Around 1970 or America stopped being able to produce 100 % of it's own oil." 1970 or so isn't the 80's. And I'm not talking about potential either, the confirmed reserves were facts. The oil industry made the business decision NOT to tap those reserves and to shift their investments to cheaper foreign oil.

son of witless wrote:

Like saying if oil was nationalized. Do you mean like in Venezuela ?

Yes, or like Iran... And don't get all freaked out... I'm not suggesting we do the same thing... I am simply stating that governments have the ability to invest in low returns, corporations (that want to stay competitive) can't. So when national interest becomes a low-yield investment corporations are going to choose better investments to stay competitive, where a government has the option to forgo the higher returns in order to stand behind the national interest. It's simple mechanics... try not to get distracted by the "kooties". ;)

son of witless wrote:

straightUp wrote: " Prices did eventually go down, but that was sometime afterward and although the increase in domestic output did factor in, much of that drop was a result of Carter's long term strategies, like investing in research that resulted in increased MPG ratings for cars during the Reagan era. "

Oil got so cheap that beginning in the late 80s there was a decade where oil companies had to lay off drilling crews. That had very little to do with Carter. It was all supply supply supple.
br straightUp wrote: i " Prices did eventua... (show quote)

Actually, most of that was decreased demand... That's when Carters investments were starting to pay off, such as the increased MPG ratings I mentioned. It's easy to get confused because what happens when demand drops and production stays the same is you wind up with an over supply. It's a silly argument anyway because there are far too many variables to determine the exact cause and effects on a global market over the course of several decades.

son of witless wrote:

straightUp wrote: " No, it was his job to manage the next 40 years. It's the job of every president to safeguard the future for our children. I'm actually flabbergasted that you would even make such a shallow, idiotic statement. "

If you think you can tell me how the next 40 years will go, I will tell you that you are full of Obama.

I'm guessing that you're referring to Obama's trademark vision for the future. It's called hope. Obama even called it that. Don't confuse hope with prophecy. I'm sure you know that the effects of a president's policies can last much longer than his term. Bush has been gone for almost ten years, but we're still dealing with his debt. The Congressional Budget Office just released a report saying that the recent tax bill Trump signed will put our deficit over a trillion per year all the way to 2035.

Also, some things can't be fixed over night with cheap banker tricks. Carter was the engineer that was planning the long term solution. Reagan was just a finger in the dyke.

son of witless wrote:

Carter needed to get America through the late 70s intact. He pretty much failed.

Seems to me like America got through the 70's just fine. Things didn't start falling apart until Reagan came and screwed this country under with a bag of cheap tricks and no concern for the future of the American people.

son of witless wrote:

If we fail to get through the next 5 years, 40 years from now is irrelevant.

But we probably will get through the next 5 years, so 40 years from now probably is relevant. Do you just not care about the future witless? Do you not have any children?

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Apr 21, 2018 20:46:44   #
kankune Loc: Iowa
 
straightUp wrote:
Interesting thing... every single point I made was in response to things witless brought up... So blame him.

In fact almost all of my posts are responses to right-wing rants. Maybe if you folks eased up on the bullshit, there's be less for me to respond to ;)


Maybe if you came down from your make believe sanctimonious castle, people would discuss or debate with you. You're such a blowhard and think sooooo much of yourself, you are completely boring. Nobody likes to listen to that "I know it all crap"

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Apr 22, 2018 03:05:29   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
kankune wrote:
Maybe if you came down from your make believe sanctimonious castle, people would discuss or debate with you. You're such a blowhard and think sooooo much of yourself, you are completely boring. Nobody likes to listen to that "I know it all crap"

Then don't listen to it. No one is forcing you. Do you have any idea how much hardblow I read on this site from the right? 29 out of 30 times, I just let it go. You're on a web site hosting political discussions by anonymous users, KK... this is where people go to BE blowhards. You should expect it. It's just more offensive when it's from the opposing view.

And I'm perfectly comfortable in my "make believe sanctimonious castle"... I'm not looking to step down to debate with people who instead of countering my argument, resort to personal insults. If someone can rise above that and my self-admitted arrogance and realize that I am nevertheless making valid and meaningful points then a debate can start in erst. If not, it doesn't matter, I still get to write and I still have fun irritating the haters. It's all good. ;)

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Apr 22, 2018 12:18:55   #
kankune Loc: Iowa
 
straightUp wrote:
Then don't listen to it. No one is forcing you. Do you have any idea how much hardblow I read on this site from the right? 29 out of 30 times, I just let it go. You're on a web site hosting political discussions by anonymous users, KK... this is where people go to BE blowhards. You should expect it. It's just more offensive when it's from the opposing view.

And I'm perfectly comfortable in my "make believe sanctimonious castle"... I'm not looking to step down to debate with people who instead of countering my argument, resort to personal insults. If someone can rise above that and my self-admitted arrogance and realize that I am nevertheless making valid and meaningful points then a debate can start in erst. If not, it doesn't matter, I still get to write and I still have fun irritating the haters. It's all good. ;)
Then don't listen to it. No one is forcing you. Do... (show quote)


Oh Straightdown, I'm sure you do. You take up a whole thread with your holier then thow long answers that have the aura of the world revolves around me, I'm always right, and half the crap I post is straight from what I just looked up on Google.
But, as you say.....you have every right to post it. But, the way you say it, gives one a feeling of "agree with me or else, because there's no way you can prove me wrong". Even when you are proven wrong, you absolutely will not except it. If you like pissing people off...go for it..The only thing it does is prove your ignorance. So I'll just keep calling BS on your posts. If you dont like it, don't read my replies.

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